Have the All Blacks improved enough to take down the Boks? | ARP

[@gabierdavids8011]

I'm a South African, naturally a Bok supporter, Boy I love you program, the insights and the views are so refreshing. Keep up the great work.

[@ShiNooBi1986]

What are the good SA ones? Love getting bok insight

[@brentthompson7889]

@@ShiNooBi1986 Eggchasers channel, he's English but loved by Saffas

[@brentthompson7889]

@@ShiNooBi1986 Boksoffice but it's not as serious

[@StaalBurgher0]

​​​@@ShiNooBi1986 SArugbymag, Keo & Zels, Lekker Rugby Pod (this one is confusing as there are several under same brand Megafoon but the one with Harry Jones is decent) BoksOffice also good if you dont mind all the off topic banter but Schalk Burger has good insights.

[@RickcandKai]

A SAFFA here, great game and big improvement, can't wait for an epic clash in 2 weeks. What I saw, no1. You're loose forwards did not give the Argentinian loosies the freedom. As in the first game, therefore more possession. No2. Damian did less on his own, 1st game looked like he wanted to prove himself in the no 10 jersey, and he is better if he just play. No3, you earned the right to go wide, by picking and going and drawing the other side in. No4, when you played out of the back, you went deeper, so that the rush defence can't put you under pressure, also chips over the rush defence, which put them on the back foot. No5, the gameplan was much more simpler, meaning you played what was in front of you and lastly, the tackle completion rate and kicking was better. That is my insight into the game, and makes my mouth water for a hard encounter in 2 weeks, not much to choose between SA and the AB'S.

[@clintonjames6307]

I'm a South African & of course a Bok supporter, I really enjoy your show & want to add, most South Africans have absolute respect for the All Blacks & will never write them off. Go the Boks.

[@Kittz1301]

@@clintonjames6307 they do though. I think they do. Springboks supporters do especially since leaving Super Rugby there is this aura that All Blacks are not that great. That’s my opinion! South Africans constantly write them off. You might not but most do!

[@314159265mangler]

@@Kittz1301 Really? I’m surprised. As a Bok supporter myself that’s not the impression I have at all. If we’d had a consistent streak of dominance over them I’d understand it - but we haven’t. We won the RWC final by a point against 14 men. On what factual basis can Bok supporters write them off? They must have the memories of goldfish! I expect the two game set to be a 1 - 1 split.

[@takeiteasyyyyy]

I find this show soooo much better than the Breakdown. The level of technical knowledge of the game Jamie and Brynn brings to the show keeps me on the edge of my seat just listening to them chatting. Brynn has such a deep understanding of the game. I wished he had the opportunity to play for the AB's. Would love to know why the coaches never looked his direction. Great show guys!!!

[@314159265mangler]

This show is far superior to The Breakdown. Great chemistry between James, Bryn and Ross that makes it much more enjoyable than watching Kirwan et al.

[@larrytasker7043]

Not necessarily better, just different.

[@francoiscoetzer9920]

Agreed, Kirwan has lost his marbles and chemistry with the other hosts on the Breakdown show. This show is more professional.

[@elhefe808]

​@@larrytasker7043disagree, it's much better

[@314159265mangler]

@@larrytasker7043the analysis on this show is much better than on The Breakdown, which just seems to be fairly empty bickering by comparison.

[@at7512]

Yip the Meltdown show become a laughing stock in the rugby world

[@veggieman_sa]

As a saffa, I’m quite nervous of what the AB’s might bring but looking forward to it

[@MosesMatsepane]

They’re going to tear us apart, we are too windgat at the moment.

[@GuyMcRae]

@@MosesMatsepane Interesting that you think so. As a Kiwi I’m expecting the ABs to lose the first and win the second. But perhaps you’re right, the Boks seem to do better as underdogs, and right now I think most everyone is expecting them to win.

[@Kingdom3in1]

I ​@@MosesMatsepanei cannot agree with you, sorry

[@leightonkeutenius4455]

Wow so many South Africans posted here ; and thank you for the extremely gracious comments and the respect between the 2 nations in rugby is very special . My 2 cents is that this is the most all court rounded SA team I’ve ever seen and the backline talent is phenomenal . Forwards nothing to add just athletic world class machines . If SA really click I fear a blow out score coming there just so superior right now .

[@FreePalestine-q1s]

I have to agree Abs supporters won't want to hear this but nz rugby shot themselves in the foot letting bookie go north Now we used to the physicality and abs missing that physicality Irish fan Great podcast guys Far far better than the big heads on the breakdown and a lot more honest assessments Parsons is my favourite....only truth and funny with it!

[@taua3645]

I agree. This is the most rounded and best Springboks team I've seen in 60 years - and I'm an All Black's fan. Not having a world class lock combo and first five will be the difference between the two teams. Each AB will have to play at their very best to gain parity with the Boks, who are playing absolutely amazing.

[@leightonkeutenius4455]

@@FreePalestine-q1s love you're handle mate nice touch there too

[@FreePalestine-q1s]

@taua3645 Tony Brown starting to bear fruits....great coach!

[@emilebotha9028]

As a South African and a pure blood Boks supporter through and through I love the ABs they have always been the team that has set the standard of rugby and Boks vs ABs have always been the match to watch. I love this program the insight that you guys give is so good and so detailed I just like to listen to you guys analyse the matches. Keep up the good work.

[@rapid1010]

Boy do I learn about Rugby from this pod. The insights into attacking shapes were phenominal. Thanks guys

[@freddietrich825]

AB supporter from SA I hope the matches don't get decided by contentious ref decisions may the best team on the day wins looking forward to it

[@EGM534]

Refs are scared to penalize the Boks

[@tobolee6385]

Veraaier ....should be no more tests in capetown ..

[@theomoller6637]

​@@tobolee6385 gaan kak tog. Elke persoon kan ondersteun wie hy wil

[@freddietrich825]

@@tobolee6385 AB supporter

[@Vega-hp1vp]

This pod is like a nice cup of tea, love it

[@JackKinross]

Such an informative pod as always, appreciate it. Go the ABs, you can do it.

[@Nicholisp]

As a Bok supporter it's infuriating that everyone keeps writing off the ABs.

[@Boolama27]

AB's supporter here..... Boks too Good at the mo.

[@BraamBezuidenhout]

Well as another bok supporter I do not of course they can beat us they are capable of it but so is every talented team like the springboks for a very long time had a winning record against NZ some of us want to get back there bro just back your boys

[@khankake9576]

I'm a New Zealander, and I never write them off, as Wesley Snipes once said, always bet on black.

[@icefarrow7959]

@@Boolama27 Boks are far from flawless. Some real amateur rugby moments from test veterans in their latest win over Australia. And no, rainy weather is not an excuse given how well the All Blacks played in it.

[@jadenphilander8799]

I domt know why everyone is hyping us up, we rebuilding our playing style and we look shaky sometimes, NZ probably going to beat us by 2 points in Cape Town.

[@imopn]

Never miss these guys. By a contey mile New Zealands best Rugby pundits. Kirwan and the guys are always so negative. These guys look like they love the game and you always learn something about the game. Not just constantly hearing about issues with Rugby

[@Kreason]

Couldn’t agree more

[@brentthompson7889]

they also genuinely compliment other teams like SA, not backhanded compliments. Respect garners respect and these lads are a class act. looking forward to Ellis Park & Cape Town gents!

[@imopn]

@@brentthompson7889 yeah it's because it's about a love of the game rather than than the constant complaining about everything that's wrong and how Rigby should basically be turned into League

[@riekertdewet3780]

Great show from a SAFFA, very nervous for the two games. All said and done if both teams play to their strength and full protentional the boks show just take it I believe.

[@JayP744]

I think the positive for us as saffas is that we know we can be so much better. Clinically we have a lot of work to do. Against top teams you can maybe fluff one opportunity in a game but thats is. The sasha and kriel opportunities should NEVER be missed at this level.

[@DonAndrewGough-vt1ki]

I’m a South African and I come to look for your videos, absolutely love it! Totally unbiased and great analytics of the game but super fun at the same time. Love it guys, keep it coming. Can’t wait for the ABs to come to our shores next week, it’s going to be epic as it always is between our two proud nations! 🙏💪🏼

[@phelansa23]

No South African will ever discount, or write off the All Blacks. They have way to much respect for the AB’s. Great show! I will say one thing, you discount just how much the uncontested scrums disrupted the Springbok game plan.

[@armandlubbe4935]

And also let's just mention the appalling rain conditions, they say that Sacha FM fumbled the ball which he did and they are right a lot of points went a begging, but it was in appalling rain conditions, Australia can be lucky that it was raining that bad, because the team on the weekend was meant to run them off the park, so to still have a convincing win in rain conditions and uncontested scrums is really impressive.

[@brentthompson7889]

I thought SA did really well to adjust from a neutralized scrum to putting that energy into mauls and getting success, and 100% history says no matter what NZ & SA rise for the occasion!

[@phelansa23]

@@brentthompson7889 the best spectacle in Rugby, any game between the AB’s and the Bokke. Any one of the teams can win on the day. I for one am greatly looking forward to these two games.

[@rogerbarrister]

Such a fan/customer centric show. Presenting the viewers questions is also a good idea. Its nice when players answer the questions that us non-pros have

[@illegalkiwi2193]

Every episode on this show there are more comments about the breakdown than the show THIS video actually is 😂

[@dimitardobrev3296]

Including this one 🤣

[@rodwellchigome7567]

As a South African, we need to seriously sort our red zone conversion. Its been an issue for a decade now. I know Ardie will target ruck 2 or 3 in the red zone after a set piece. Both teams are class, I just feel the Boks are more of a hammer in the red zone, whereas the ABs are a scalpel. I hope Tony Brown can sort that out moving forward. The game will come down to one or 2 opportunities taken down the stretch.

[@mahakicp]

Huge respect to you gentlemen for your insight and depth of analysis of our beautiful game. Thank you.

[@charlesskeen]

Great video and insights thanks gents...looking forward to your visit..may the best team win - Bok supporter

[@djbozeman2131]

Saffa here. You guys put on a great show with detailed analysis…. Keep it up

[@henniduplessis452]

As always, some good balanced views from you gentlemen. As a South African, I always view the AB's as the true challenge

[@casscassy9174]

The panel on The Breakdown should be watching this show.

[@Teezy_Ty]

As a Saffa have the utmost respect for the AB’s, our greatest rivals. Never write the AB’s off. I reckon it’s going to be 1-1. Boks take the game in Joburg and the AB’s take it in Cape Town. AB’s have a good record in Cape Town and get a lot of support. Going to be a cracking 2 matches

[@Baz-h9h]

They have a good record all over SA really. Boks owe fans a 2-0 win, otherwise they're just overrated as they proved against Ireland

[@orlandosadie6283]

My feeling as well but I hope the new CT stadium might turn the corner against previous AB results at Newlands

[@FrevolaDuplessis]

Thanks for this program wow love it

[@hanli2011]

I would love to know what the team thinks of "Granny scrums" and the effect it has on a game. Can you imagine what could have happened had Argentina done the same to NZ that Australia did to SA, but earlier in the game....there has to be a sanction to negate depowering the dominant team in that fashion!

[@WesRousseau]

I wait for this show now..lifts my mood after watching the breakdown on a Monday

[@andysurfer318]

Always enjoy this long form pod

[@kjem7670]

100 percent agree this show is tops

[@MobBarley00]

Bok fan here. Kia ora. AB’s were amazing in those conditions. Very impressed. I’ve doubts they can maintain that level for a few games in a row though. Guess we will find out soon. Looking forward to a great battle.

[@Jay685toa]

Crusaders could play like that for 80 minutes, Razor will get that edge out of the group, that was an early bar set a glimpse of what this group can produce, only been 4 games together

[@MobBarley00]

@@Jay685toa good luck. Nothing better than and strong AB and Bok team going toe to toe.

[@JAKLAR79]

Just the one question. As a South African and a Bok supporter I love the build up to Boks v AB's. When I say build up I mean since the day this fixture was released to the public. I cant help but think that both sets of coaches have been playing a game of chess in terms of what has been revealed by each team leading up to these 2 upcoming games. How much has been given away by each sets of coaches in the games played so far, and is there anything drastic or new that they could still bring to this epic matchup? Great show guys. Watch it religiously

[@rudijansen1210]

never ever feel comfortable playing the All Blacks...the next two test will be massive! can't wait 🙂

[@lenbignell]

14:50 Great comment and insite by you James. Im sure Rassie has touched on this difference in the two halves. The other point out of this is that with the regret at tne points left on the field comes the determination to do better. Cheers from SA

[@KJTmethod]

Another Saffa here, great show , better than that show with that twit with the black goggles 😂 Gonna be epic battle as usual between the Boks & ABs and guaranteed no in contested scrums 😉

[@heathcharsley5429]

Anyones game 50/50 two top sides in Rugby.I wouldn’t say the Boks are the favourites.Every match is different.The rugby world live to watch this contest.👍😊🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@Formakiwi]

Home advantage, a stable squad, actually utilizing their backline instead of just trying to win by tackling every blade of grass (Neinaber absolutely the worst coach to ever win a World Cup); the Boks are a scary proposition right now, and seemingly only have room for improvement.

[@AB_Sanj]

Question for Brynn 😊. What are your thoughts on Beauden Barrett coming off the bench? I personally think he needs to be on the field for the entire game and be a starter at 10 or 15. However, I have noticed that he is a great observer of the game from the bench and calms down and guides the remaining players on the bench as well (Just like he did against England). The entire bench plays better when he I on the bench. And he is awesome as well. So I'm not sure what the most productive option is for the AB'S. Start or bench?

[@kennethmacibela4463]

I am proudly South African who passionately loves All Blacks. I don't care what comes out of the two tests, All Blacks play the best rugby on earth. Indeed SA are world Champs and are playing winning tests under Rassie....well done to them. However, Razor will surprise us all. Watch!

[@tobymeredith8069]

S,A definitely playing better than ABS and rightly should be favourites for two tests. If SA wins first test they may well make mass changes again for the second.

[@markrutherford6010]

The forwards still need to step up for South Africa. Blackadder had good game against Argentina. But can he stand up to the Springbok pressure.Steph-du toit is monster of man. The guy is 6ft 6 ins tall.Our best line out jumper is Sam Darry. Darry needs to start for the All Blacks to compete with the tall Springbok locks. Perenara’s passing worries me.His delivery is too slow.McKenzie still cracks under pressure. We need halfback that can pass,a hooker that can throw the ball in and fly half that has good kicking game.

[@EGM534]

Tj gets flustered under pressure too tmo

[@Formakiwi]

ABs can't look to try and outmuscle the Boks. That's a fools errand. They need to work their kicking game, run the big lads around the park, keep them pegged in their own half, move the ball and take the steam out of the contact area. If they try and go through the middle of the park, in some desperate effort at macho self-assertion, they'll get flattened; the AB's loosies don't compare physically to their Bok opposites, if Blackadder plays he'll get manhandled in contact, like he has every time he's cone up against a strong opposition pack, Vaai is too small and too sloppy with his hands, Darry and Williams are raw, Taylor has been going backwards in contact, and Ardie can't do it all by himself. Papalii will tackle all day but so far this year hasn't made an impact on the carry. For whatever reason, NZ rugby (like Australian rugby) isn't producing the kind of forward that can play a purely collision-based tactical game against the best in the world, so they need to use their heads and play smart, rather than try to prove a point by taking them on up front.

[@markrutherford6010]

@@Formakiwi Darry is find of the year.Blindside is the problem.Start Scott Barrett at 6. Then we will have three line out options.Our front row will match them. We need Hookers that at throw the ball into the line outs.

[@thetalentedmrfitz]

I think the ABs might shock the SA and take the first test. Wishful thinking? Maybe lol but I believe this team has the ability and potential to really stick it to the Boks. The pack is back on form and the backs on their day are as good as any backline in world rugby. They've got nothing to lose as most pundits have written them off so the pressure is on SA to live up to the high expectations and standards they've set.

[@nickeybotha2155]

You missed Siya's speech on pressure? Go Google it. Playing rugby is not pressure for them. But besides that if we stick with your definition the boks conquered pressure by beating every single side in the top tier of rugby at the WC no other team has EVER done that. Methinks they cope with pressure quite well thank you😂

[@thetalentedmrfitz]

@@nickeybotha2155 foh with your "go google it" arrogance 🤦‍♂️ I've found the majority of SA supporters to be gracious and humble. You're clearly an exception. We'll see how well the pressure is handled next week.

[@steffenburrows3499]

So much better than The Breakdown!

[@Davidvx1468]

As a saffa....I think the boks take the first test, and the ABs sneak the 2nd...much like the Irish series

[@swapacrate]

I think we will lose both, we are essentially playing with 3 7's Ardie is awesome so can play 8 but prefer him at 7 and bring on an 8 that can drive it up and a Big 6 like Kaino. I don't want to lose, but this is not the recipe going forward. We are so inconsistent. I want to play like the blues did. Get go forward and mistake free, then our backs have a better chance. You guys are awesome at the moment. As an aside Parsons could do a rugby channel like squidge. Squidge is awesome, parsons awesome.

[@Davidvx1468]

@swapacrate lol nah mate, the ABs are a good side, they just need to get the right combinations and they'll be deadly...the Irish fans thought they'd lose both tests too, given the fact that they lost Gibson park ahead of it, but they managed to win one via drop goal at the death. The boks are guilty of taking their foot of the gas when they put in a good performance in the first week (Very frustrating as a bok supporter btw), and against a team like NZ, you have to be focused for 80mins if you're thinking of a series win against them

[@elkiwi69]

If TJ doesn't kick the ball away everytime we will win both tests

[@muzintombela8257]

I don't see the ABs winning a test in SA. I am a saffa. The coaches leaned from the Irish series, and they wanted to win both tests. Tony wants 2 wins against the ABs. Nope no win for the ABs. I'm sorry to say it but it's true

[@Karma-qt4ji]

@@Davidvx1468 The Irish won the second because the Springboks had zero backline. The minute le Roux went off, any chance of any attacking play in the backline went off with him. With all respect to Pollard's contributions to the Green and Gold, he is not a playmaker and has simply become a kicker, so our only option against Ireland was the old 2019 force_penalty_kick_points_repeat. Nearly worked too but stumbled at the final hurdle.

[@AB_Sanj]

Great show, and thanks for the insights. Question - How much practice goes into drop kicks, as we hardly see that in the AB'S DNA... RWC finals, Game vs England - We never seemed to call or shape for a drop goal. It will be a useful change vs the Springboks. Thoughts 😊

[@jonathonmerson93]

great show

[@danhursty6684]

Will Jordan & Caleb Clarke clearly our 1st choice wings, very Ben smith & Julian savea coded

[@jordanious7711]

playing ben smith on the wing was also a crime

[@julianalderson3938]

Yer rekon more up front we lost the first one not wing. But yer they were good. Cheers

[@jpfowlds5921]

Caleb is literally thd worst defender in the game Telea above clark any day of the week

[@julianalderson3938]

@@jpfowlds5921 think calebs great finisher strong fast. Tallea so different just beats tackles. Against sa its defence alot i think. They got some very fast n strong wingers there. Stoppin them is big

[@julianalderson3938]

@@jpfowlds5921 think i want talea as hes a game breaker. An think we need that as good as clarke is.

[@davidrabbolini6574]

Such a balanced program. Always enjoyable. Prefer your chat compared to the old school and dated commentary provided by JK et al.

[@etiennegreyling6190]

Saffa here great show lads! AB backline is insane.. and we’ll neeeever underestimate them. If AB’s can match the Boks up front I think we’re in for two battles of the ages… Ellis Park fear factor is long gone in fact it arguably plays slightly into AB’s favour.Really wish they’d move highveld games to Loftus. Anyway see ya’s this side✌🏼✌🏼

[@nickeybotha2155]

But they can't and they won't😅

[@peterneal6492]

would be great if you guys could use video clips on the points you are making for those who are more visuale love the show

[@RubyDoobieScoo]

Tamaiti is good enough to start but I think we need to think about how we build our bench more. We have two 6'5 140 kg props, imagine bringing Tamaiti, Aumua and Tosi on off the bench, devastating against a tiring opposition pack and a great answer the South Africa's bomb squad.

[@sten9556]

Saffa fan here, AB have always been the greatest test...utmost respect to both teams.

[@alansmith7158]

Another great show, really insightful. Wow the forwards turned up on the weekend. Not behind my braveheart speech...hilarious

[@Flabgrab]

Question.when the Springboks bring on the bomb squad they usually bring them on at the same time and it's got to be uplifting for the rest of their team and quite intimidating for opposition. Do you think the Allblacks should do the exact same thing at the exact same time, imagine Aamua,Williams, Newell,Cane, Wallace all coming on when the bomb squad comes on, it will hype the boys up and get in the minds of the bomb squad. I just wish we had some big nutty locks to come on

[@Readstarter]

Totally agree. Doesn’t make any sense to drip feed players on. Also I reckon we should start with our “bomb squad” in some games. Eg against Fiji. This way we would build real cohesion with our “bomb squad team”.

[@nickeybotha2155]

It's the quality of the replacements though. Best you pray for Marx and Ox to start and not come up in the bomb squad

[@aza109954]

Beating South Africa in South Africa is a tough ask, but it's not impossible if we play to our potential

[@AntAlbers]

Bok supporter here chaps. Love your show. One of the best out there in my opinion.

[@rogerarnold6248]

Firstly as a springbok supporter I love this show. Your insights are excellent and always interesting to hear the NZ point of view . Without trying to create click bait like some other NZ rugby shows. My question is with the increase in short arm penalty's with the new laws why are no teams taking a quick tap and passing back for a drop goal attempt? with the other team having to be 10 metres it would decrease your chance of a charge down. Is there any reason why the teams aren't doing this?

[@justina7041]

I would be interested to know what Bryn thinks is why Razor got every Saders team to have what it takes to win the games. New players came through and they fit seamlessly into the systems. What is it he does to do that? I am truly excited about these upcoming games, and hope the weather is good for both. I rate the NZ scrum now, and think those boys are as good as the Bok front rows. For the first time in a long time I think the Boks have a backline to match a NZ backline....that has NEVER been the case in my lifetime. Enjoy the game on the weekend

[@kurukoei]

In the second test NZ, playing in Auckland, was frothing at the mouth whereas the Argies simply didn't pitch and was still hungover from test 1. Wouldn't read too much into their 'bounce back' test. Boks will be tough to beat and the real test. ABs victory is not impossible, but the Springboks are favourites

[@Readstarter]

Need to see the likes of Blackadder and Vaa’i now perform at this level against Big Five sides, week in, week out. One swallow does not a summer make. It was great to see them both really perform. But Argentina looked a bit freaked out by the conditions, and did not look psyched for this game.

[@kihara4244]

Weather was equalling factor in the Saffa game with the lack of experience in that Bok team

[@julianalderson3938]

Huge improvement. 2nd 40 really gota keep it against better sides is all could say. And thats tuff but yer cant take foot off really. Cheers to em

[@DanieSASIAN]

As a Saffa I fear the day James Parsons becomes the AB coach…great show guys. I don’t particularly care who wins these 2 matches, as long as both teams play their best on the day. No better game of rugby to watch

[@warrenvanaswegen8565]

It was only close due to the bad weather and uncontested scrums . What happened to the ABs scoring rate in the second half.

[@graemehuia5964]

I love the Breakdown, JK is my man. He is a Sir & a Knight.

[@eugeneloggenberg2314]

As a Bok Supporter any Test Match against the All Blacks has Always been...and will always continue to be an Absolute clash of the Best...we are always weary of the All Blacks, we never underestimate them & we need to bring the Very Best we have to match-day... whether it's an Away Game or a Home Game. Both sides always seem to lift their Game when they meet.

[@kristian762]

I find it quite unnerving how the international media is being so nice to us. Even the Irish media was respectful for the Ireland tour. I'm wondering if everyone watched chasing the sun 2 and saw how negative media fuels the Boks, and now they trying to take that advantage away from us 😂 even JK had some nice things to say. And now apparently we're favourites. Everything's upside down

[@brucerandell3771]

You NEVER write off the ABs. This coming from a Saffa. Winning against them is always an achievement.

[@Leoatwallacerockhole]

Guess wat Rassie? We're coming ready or not and let the games begin woohoo! and the odds as for every NZ v SA game is 50/50 can't wait

[@rapid1010]

49:00 I agree what Jip said about the Haka. You can feel a good performance coming from the Haka. That Haka gave me goosebumps.

[@racketman2u]

the haka is just a dance, TJP uses most of his energy just doing that.

[@thegoat4124]

Great show👌🏻Going to be interesting how they go when they go up against the best team on the planet in 2 weeks time🙂 And if like in 2022, Rassie wins the first game again convincingly, will he then make a few subs for the 2nd game. Going to be interesting🙂

[@martinparel5757]

You guys are so much better than jk and team. They have been out of the locker room too long. Doesnt look like they are in touch with the modern game and looking like panic set in as soon as they see other teams become competitive

[@elizabethleiper2664]

A fine performance in the 1st half, from the ABs but they fell away in the 2nd half -plenty to work on yet, but loved seeing that intent

[@khankake9576]

Yes, only one point seperated them the last time they met.

[@Karma-qt4ji]

A lifetime ago. If I have learned anything from decades of rivalry between these two nations, it is that one game / week will not define the next.

[@SahanSenar]

Question : what do you guys think of a 6:2 split for the bench so we can replace the whole tight 5 in the second half to counter the Bomb Squad ?

[@atapene]

Hi guys. DOUBLE BOMB SQUADS? Looking at Tamaiti, Ofa, Asafo, Wallace, Darry..... in the first test against SA, will Razor be telling his bench to be warmed up ready to enter the test 10mins into the second half, so if we see Rassie dumping 5 SA forwards onto the pitch before a scrum, Razor can do the same and we might see 2 bomb squads enter at once? Would remove the psychological advantage of having such a group come on that SA have been using. The SA bench are amazing but guys like Tamaiti and Asafo, Cane, can offer similar impact against Marx and the SA bench. Also... I just want to see 10 fresh guys come on at once and what a war would happen over that next 5 mins. Cheers!!

[@retrosalvage]

Not sure about Argentina but South Africa is not great in wet conditions, they are not used to it. New Zealand has to be the best in those conditions. Either way, Argentina is either super good or super bad.

[@johanschoeman869]

It would be foolish of the Springboks to get over confident and underestimate the All Blacks. They were and will always be a class act to be taken very seriously at ALL times. Yes the Boks are looking very good but we have a way to go still. It will be very nice to see the AB's in SA again with the prospect of a great test. May the best team win.

[@seannorris7993]

The conditions with the uncontested scrums helped the Aussies, we know that wet conditions are always a leveler.

[@DrissZyanisorrybutyourtimeisfi]

All blacks have very scrum to match boks : 2 big men tamati posoli

[@oldman774]

It is encouraging but at the same time frustrating that the Boks fluffed two sure tries in the first half with all those changes. Encouraging becaue the made ten entries with the new squad, but frustrating that due to unforced errors they didn't break away on the score board by halftime.

[@Karma-qt4ji]

Boet, we had 334 caps in total in that starting lineup, with PSDT and Jesse Kriel making up 160 (48%) of them, in torrential downpour away from home. We could have scored those tries and probably should have, but I am prepared to cut a little slack under the circumstances.

[@rodwellchigome7567]

Spot on. Our red zone conversion has sucked for a long time now.

[@TamiDaire]

The wet weather suited the ABs.

[@DrissZyanisorrybutyourtimeisfi]

Wet or not..they know how win.

[@TamiDaire]

@@DrissZyanisorrybutyourtimeisfi and lose sometimes too?

[@Formakiwi]

The worst thing that ever happened to NZ rugby was that third World Cup win in 2015; the coaches and the team have seemingly never been as hungry, never been as driven, and never quite as sharp aftet that time. Like Mickey says in Rocky III "you aint been hungry since you won that belt". Its the curse of sustained success: you forget how you got there, and everyone else starts coming after you.

[@jacques68986]

I think the AB and Boks lacks consistency but that is the nature of todays game. This tells me that the 2 upcoming tests in SA won't be that close and probably end up boks winning the 1st and AB the 2nd....thats my gut feeling

[@murrayjohn8608]

So this is a Sky show, doesn't that mean with a bit of extra work you could show clips that illustrate what you are talking about? it's a great show. We'll find out how good this AB team is when the forwards have to play 80-minutes with the Boks. Couldn't live with the Pumas in Game 1, so it all remains to be seen ... that's the joy of it all.

[@PhilipVili-qf2qt]

With ABs n Bokkas anything can happen looking 4ward 2 this one❤

[@JonathanBayot-vm3bs]

How much do you think does the Springbok's bomb squad can really influence a game? And how do you counter that?

[@Talana27]

As a Saffa, I have such huge respect for the All Black's, I see this being very tight, should be a fascinating contest, I'll sit on the fence, 1-1 . Thanks for a great show guys.

[@frankvendetta9230]

Sit on the fence? WTF man the Springboks will beat them in both tests mate both. How can you sit on the fence after a performance from them v Argentins second test? See how the ran through a sleeping Argies teams defence. The Argies never turned up was fast asleep and on that you sit on the fence? Ok you underestimate this Springboks team at your own peril mate.

[@Karma-qt4ji]

@@frankvendetta9230 No peril in being humble and respectful. Even if he is wrong, he still comes out of this looking good.

[@rileyfreeman9726]

​@@frankvendetta9230You sound stupid 😂😂

[@rileyfreeman9726]

​@@frankvendetta9230No mate, underestimate the all blacks at your own peril.

[@rassienortier5096]

Good pod

[@BINDA_-zb7wq]

mate isnot good its great

[@brentthompson7889]

Agree, never accept losses Kiwi's! Form means nothing at the blow of the whistle, the intent will be there cause of the sense of occasion. Respect from SA

[@rob-nz6342]

Great first half but very far from a complete performance. Failure to score in the last 38 mins is a real concern. The ABs lost shape and structure once DMac was replaced by BB at 10, and the bench players failed to make the impact needed, instead the team lost fluency with all the changes. Late in the game a couple of good chances to score while deep in the Argentinian 22 were again fluffed, thankfully unlike last week, the result was not in the balance. With two very hard away games to come against South Africa the ABs will need to turn the strong 45 mins they achieved tonight into a full 80 min performance, because the Boks will provide an epic challenge for the full 80. Scoring chances in the final 10 min must be ruthlessly taken, because as the history of AB v Boks games shows, scores in the last 10 minutes often decide the match.

[@tcr4507]

I found it interesting that most of the bench guys we brought on were chiefs players (ratima at 9, ALB at 13, Cane at 7 and lord in the locks), all guys that would’ve had massive cohesion levels with Dmac. That left beaudy and Jordan running plays with a spine they’re not necessarily used to (not compared to damo anyway).

[@benrobinson375]

Yeah the All Blacks were nearly flawless in the first half and then faded in the second. In both Argentina games the bench weren't helping us.

[@182Warren]

Australia didn’t let them use the driving maul in the first half , I disagree with that South Africa didn’t opt to use the rolling mall in the first half .

[@mzanziman9150]

From south Africa i think the game in Cape town will be INSANE , as a boy i remember the All blacks having a great record in newlands as well as the crusaders, they have lots of support from the people in the western cape, i think now that the bokd are champ champs it may be a bit different but ive always heard that newlands (cape town) was allblacks home 😅😂 remembering the allblacks training at charles morkel stadium. I think it will be 1 all. But im hoping the all blacks take the L, super rugby is not up to standard anymore and we need to show that with our level of play on the national level,

[@geotruthnz7013]

Super Rugby is still pretty good, the 4 top NZ sides could probably make quarter finals at an international world cup and the oz sides on their day can topple them. Who knows how good your teams are since they have taken off to play against weaker Rugby nations.

[@mzanziman9150]

@geotruthnz7013 lol i think you are mistaken, wales vs fiji? Scotland vs samoa who wins. I also dont wana say any team is better than others but our competition is insane with European teams and were both getting better for it because of all the different styles, nz fiji samoa tonga auz japan have very similar players and play styles

[@linzito85]

I'm a SAFFA and I dont even know, one thing about a Bok/All Black brawl is that form counts for nothing its a SH derby that goes to whoever wants it most on the day. We have so much quality that we never know who will make match day and sometimes our faves are even left out. I guess that the 1 downside of having depth

[@shaungoodman4924]

Rugby world cup re-Match 😊 it's gonna be great

[@tobymeredith8069]

Our forwards are atheletes where others are power fowards. Some of the opposition backs have bigger arms than our front rowers so clear to see that other countries are in the gym a lot. more.

[@asezangozo1914]

Lads you are missing something very important about the Aus vs Boks like you said about the All Blacks and that's the bad weather. South Africa is going to be dry if the SA defence is on point and the scrums work early it's going to be a long day. Remember another thing the rucks and discipline are going to be key places and if New Zealand don't front up there too the discipline will go out the window and it will be Twickenham all over again

[@trhoda2001]

What happened to your audio podcast?? Havent gotten a new show since 7 August.

[@phillipmurray689]

Just remember, the Boks butchered 3 try opportunities in the 1st half. The Boks should've had at least 15 more points at half time, which would have made the score 9-26. The weather was horrendous. I can't see the ABs beat this current Boks team, especially in SA.

[@IIIIIlIIl]

For every Kiwi there is 12 South Africans just remember that when we lose both tests.

[@peterlangan1181]

Bok fan here, with the All Blacks v Boks it’s always anybody’s game, nobody can call it for certain. These two teams are old enemies it’s basically a perennial match for who is top dog.