Do the All Blacks need more mongrel? + the class of the Springboks | ARP

[@StuartMurdoch-r7c]

This show is 10 times better than the breakdown .... Keep it up

[@FreePalestine-q1s]

Breakdown full of egos....these guys spot on

[@alexandermel9987]

I Don’t bother with the breakdown anymore.

[@brandonsean998]

Agreed, JK is annoying

[@nzfreeski]

Agree completely - the breakdown is like those dudes the money man and Mark Kephane - all egos

[@cici2716]

You guys are my favourite rugby show!!!!!!! Lots of love from South Africa💛🇿🇦

[@nzfreeski]

Your boys are on fire ! Kudos

[@cici2716]

@@nzfreeski thank you👍

[@pierrembadenhorstt]

great show !

[@KewKew-do3kq]

I watched the breakdown and saw a man called jk complaining rugby needs more Scrums

[@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905]

@@KewKew-do3kq not at all what he said but whatever

[@mby2187]

South African here, these guys are class. Pundits from all over the world (SA included) are sometimes so biased and clueless. Not these guys. Absolute class.

[@georginiuss]

Ten years ago Argentina could only dreamt of playing lke these, but they learnt a lot cause of the competition with tier 1 teams. They change the way they play, they changed the way their players train and they were so clever to never give up even when they take a lot of critics in their own country, the most used terminology to criticize them was "the dignity loss" referring to played always a good game but always losing at the end. But they knew that even losing they were learning, match after match, until some day the most important change took place, thay started to believe it was possible, and then Argentina was a whole new beast, now they have the players, the knowledge, the experience, and they believe in them. Argentina is now a world class rugby nation, of course AB are legends, as SA, Australia, England, Ireland, but what Argentina did in just one decade is really nothing short but awesome.

[@1887edom]

ES COMO LO DICES! CON PUNTOS Y COMAS!!

[@andredurandt1122]

I love this podcast, too. As a Springbok supporter and a total rugby lover, I fully support the views of this podcast and the analysis is so unbiased, professional and thorough. Also very informed. These blokes certainly do their homework and have huge rugby experience and expertise. Congratulations guys!! I think NZ All Blacks will correct their "short comings" during last week's game and will be a different team next Saturday. But they will not under-estimate the Argentinian Pumas (again).

[@hamletheneke4472]

As a bok supporter. Tony brown was the master stroke appointment. The difference his making is massive.

[@girshboy]

We are seeing signs of greatness

[@potsie7778]

Re Tony Brown, could not agree more. The amount of NZ coaches around the rugby world is astounding.

[@bluehar5505]

After decades of getting my hopes up and then getting dissapointed. I dare say, the way it's going right now Dr Rassie could quite possibly be the first coach to take 3 RWC back to back. The way he continues to innovate, the appointments he makes in terms of support and coaching staff is just the stuff of legend. I was very worried when we lost Felix and Nienies but then Dr Rassie goes hold my beer and appoints someone like Brown and it's like the boks have levelled up. Things are looking so good right now for us, our attack is improving game to game, our defence has been solid since 2019 and our depth in all of the positions are insane we easy have 4 players in each position that could step up on the day and there wouldn't be a significant drop in quality of the team. Please don't wake me up, I am loving this.🎉

[@uganrajoo8379]

@@potsie7778 The amount of SA coaches too.

[@jadenphilander8799]

And this is only early days, we are only at the beginning.

[@rabbitss11]

The most impressive thing about Argentina was sticking to their game plan and not caving to scoreboard pressure, even when they went 20-8 down they kept their heads.

[@luthandomondliwa8702]

I always believe the term “we lost it, they did not win it” is not only unfair but disrespectful to the winning team. You can always find reasons on why you lost and therefore claim that you lost the game but you forget that the other team put you under pressure to make those mistakes. Argentina were the better team period, the All Blacks will improve.

[@retimanahaerewa5430]

When I heard that comment expletives immediately followed, the nerve.

[@Jay685toa]

ball was passed 2 times to no one which led to a try, Argentina played well but the ABs defeated themselves

[@worldchampions4379]

@@Jay685toacoping much

[@Jamluji]

​@@Jay685toacould it be that the Argies put so much pressure on the ABs and forced the errors. It's not like Argentina doesn't have plans or agency you know. Jordie, DMac, TJ, all sucked.

[@matthewalexander7574]

Typical NZ comment when they don't win. Everyone else was bad

[@Arti-iChi]

"Bring back the mark scrum"..Best line of the show.. Love this show

[@sandorclegane3658]

NOooooOooo. Champagne running rugby with cricket scores. Scrums will just end up being exploited by an underwhelming Springbok team.

[@jegglejuice8864]

they made the rule to stop RSA calling for scrums in own 22m. The Springboks performance over the weekend, was it underwhelming? James Parsons couldn’t stop complementing the performance

[@wouterroos2359]

Yes. World rugby tried to screw over one team after their precious france lost in their own world cup. In the process they are ruining the game. I postulate that a fteekick is not at all a reward.

[@citedcanvas85]

➡️🤜🤛⬅️ lol yeah

[@lydiapotgieter7867]

​@@sandorclegane3658LOL! Joker.

[@FreePalestine-q1s]

Love these guys. No airs or graces or big heads and talk honestly Parsons top bloke Irish fan

[@wouterroos2359]

When this AB team clicks under razor they are gonna be a scary outfit. I am a die hard bok fan with massive respect for the ABs. That being said it was nice to see the Argentinians put on such a perfomance. I have no doubt that your team will click. The boks are looking good. Argentina is doing great. Razor will build something special. I just hope Joe Schmith and Australia can rebuild to being the powerhouse of old. We had 3/4 southern teams in the 2023 world cup semis. Let's hope we can get the clean sweep in 2027.

[@david1golfer]

Hope so. In the mean time its pretty to watch the Springboks, they look amazing

[@johanventer5428]

My English is not to good, hope you understand me. From Botswana I see it total deferent. In the past there were only 2 to 3 teams up to standard to compete with the All Blacks. In the last 2 to 3 years teams all over do a lot better and they are on the same level as the bigger teams. We will see more of this upsets in the near future.

[@schnickeringhen]

Your English is good ❤

[@JohanSchmidt]

Best rugby show on the web!

[@awblax1]

Du Plessis Kirifi is an out and out fetcher who also made 24 tackles on Friday night. We need someone like him

[@markreilly105]

Agree. Kirifi at 7 and either Dalton or Sititi at 6. Blackadder is too ill disciplined and has a lack of execution of his role. If we bring in Kirifi I would like to see Sotutu at 8. Ardie isn't playing well but would give the added injection from the bench. 8 Sotutu, 7 Kirifi, 6 Sititi. I think he could make a good 6 and these three complement each other

[@maffrose]

Has taken nz 6 years to figure out that savea is not an 8 , he gets bullied.

[@mikescudder4621]

@@maffrose International player of the year hardly got bullied.

[@HohepaTreanor]

Outclasses any open in the country

[@MrAdmvp]

@@mikescudder4621he’s a seagull

[@eugeneduplessis140]

17:22 actually smiled watching it.... It was an experience. Well said mate 🎉❤

[@lukhanyosotyingwa1680]

All the guys in studio finally..🇿🇦

[@tymoses6043]

Always look forward to your guys views and opinions.. Especially about the boks.. As a SAffer I appreciate the educated views but more so the honesty.. Not just about the boks but the ABs as well.. I for 1 am alil suspect of the boks playing with width against the mighty All Blacks.. But we can't wait to face u guys.. Much love and respect from this side of the Indian ocean.. Also I think bringing back a big winger who can get over the gainline would aid the current ABs side since there aren't many big ball carriers lining up to get them over the gainline

[@wimpretorius434]

Brilliant show. Insightful and much more objective than the Breakdown. Go Bokke

[@werne123125555]

NZ is already missing Aaron Smith. Once in a generation scurm half. Saffa fan here.

[@subbie5498]

and mounga

[@gjreedy9526]

And Brodie and Whitelock. Big no nonsense forwards.

[@werne123125555]

@@gjreedy9526 Yes they need a propper hardman hitting the rucks and tackles very hard.

[@ss2gora0]

Sadly, yes 😢 Springboks could have about 4 that would make the all blacks. Different times we are living in now

[@Bennusan1]

Really enjoyable conversation. Some actual quality analysis and balanced opinion from NZ. Well done lads.

[@salomiodendaal4473]

Looking forward to a quality and balanced analysis from SA...

[@theborgster8497]

Aaah, A PROPER rugby pundit panel, so refreshing to watch. What the AB's need is to play the Bokke, that ALWAYS takes them to peak performance, as it does for us Bokke. This was a slight bump in the road for the AB's, not a reason to panic

[@Dinkybear622]

Great show. My biggest concern is that there is a chap named Joe Coetzee in Cape Town that supports NZ. Please Mom and Dad have a chat with your son he has lost his way.

[@Jay685toa]

Joe is a Jedi he is right with the force

[@Aapkop]

If you listen to his accent, he is not a born Kaapie, one of the thousands of vaalies that moved down

[@Dinkybear622]

Vaalie, Kylo Ren, All Black supporter in South Africa. That is serious problem. 😀

[@garthfairfield]

Wat die donder! Joe Blikzem! Probably the only one but there are thousands of bok supporters in nz though.

[@Dinkybear622]

Bryn and James sound like they are secret.........actual outright admirers. This thing of South Africans supporting All Blacks is a big problem and we have enough problems here as is. How can you choose Barrett, Savea and Mkensie over Eben, PSdT and Kolbe. Makes no sense.

[@jeanm27]

Listening to this, I just realised that Springboks were mongrels out and out with so many games ending in fighting, but that seems to be gone. Also, Springboks doesn't conform to adapt to another team, they force teams to adapt to them. Lastly, the crowd is so green because the brand of rugby is just beautiful for rugby in general

[@Waywind420]

A lot of the Boks players were pretty ordinary during their early career. Overtime they've all got better with experience, strength and conditioning and tactical evolution. And now they're the second best team on earth

[@emilem12]

@@Waywind420 The number 1 team*

[@Waywind420]

@@emilem12 Suuure buddy, if you think so.

[@petes9524]

You mean when they won their first series in New Zealand in 1928?​@@Waywind420

[@chasey2327]

@@Waywind420 Boks are still grubs when they lose...swan diving and chasing down the ref v ireland sums them up for mine

[@pieterventer8212]

As an South African, I would put the mongrel in Springboks terms, play your heart out, be the best you can and be as physically as you can be without being a jerk. Nice show guys, hope the Southern hemisphere rugby get where it can be. Love the All Blacks!

[@nepiahemopo1702]

Razor will destroy the All Blacks.

[@waynerockman1242]

​@@nepiahemopo1702that's a distinct possibilty and the way they tiptoe around Razor is shocking instead the focus is shifted to other things except their coach. I really hope the praise he received with his appointment did not go to his head. Poor Fozzie

[@smoothoperator1862]

The Springboks being all South Africa has is the big reason lol

[@jacquescoetzee47]

@@smoothoperator1862 Not true. There’s a reason your profile picture is of a lion, just one of many amazing animals one can find in South Africa and not some flightless bird or a freshwater eel (which is literally all you have).

[@potsie7778]

@@smoothoperator1862Thanks mate. Tony Brown.

[@sambeckingsale2542]

The collision area becomes even more problematic when the ABs no longer have Aaron Smiths rocket pass

[@blairansellfraser]

Finally! This has been our advantage..and it's not just the rocket pass, it's the speeding up of the breakdown...it's the lack of hesitation, that allows the opposition to get into position

[@uganrajoo8379]

Smith still a better 9 than du Pont.

[@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905]

@@uganrajoo8379 overall? no. Tempo wise and reading the game wise? yes. It will be tough for any scrum half in the future to get the best of nuggy in that area

[@SamzM429]

After watching that game do we now put Ardie at 7 and sititi to 8? We're lacking mongrelism and power and that showed by Argentina man handling us. Well deserved win by Argentina. Be interesting to see who starts this weekend.

[@MegaTkls]

Mongelism yeah

[@Kiwi_Haydn]

Finau, Savea and Sititi would be far more dynamic.

[@Kiwi_Haydn]

@@puregrunt not big enough to be a 6. PSDT is 2m tall and 115kg. Jacobson is only 1.91 and 107kg. Finau is 1.96 and 115kg. Frizell is 1.95 and 108kg. Even Kaino was 1.96 and 110kg. Those extra cm and kg make a difference!

[@abhamilton]

The ABs seem to predictable , other teams have worked out how to shut them down, they used to be leaders in innovation they seem to have lost that,They need to get that back or they won't catch boks

[@puregrunt]

@@Kiwi_Haydn yeah true but seeing finau get smashed into touch by marcus smith in the 1st england test doesn't fill me with much confidence that hes the answer..

[@thewatchman9806]

As a SA, we have great respect for the AB's, I am not the least bit concerned, the trio Southern Hemisphere teams AU, NZ & SA always get better, AB's will bounce back, I cant see them lose the next game. Looking forward to their Cape Town visit.

[@ss2gora0]

Can't wait to play you guys, Springboks are looking awesome and are looking better and better everytime

[@agz471]

Awesome…good to see you’s all in the studio guys!

[@toscabrutus1781]

Baie goeie bespreking. Die beste program uit Nieu Zeeland!

[@smoothoperator1862]

English?

[@dewaldbotha797]

​​@@smoothoperator1862 An excellent discussion. Best rugby program/show out of New Zealand.

[@StoepZulu]

@@smoothoperator1862 Why?

[@cornelcarelse7613]

@@smoothoperator1862 press translate...he said the best program from Nz

[@naidoo307]

When a boer gives u a compliment take it with both hands and both feet ! Dankie mineer !😅

[@sambeckingsale2542]

My concern isn't a missed kick here ... a missed pass there. It's not the layer above, skills and mistakes... it's the foundation that worries me. The game plan/ strategy that requires innovation and clarity. No point in regurgitating super rugby strategy/ patterns. It's simply a very different beast.

[@tinymahuta]

D Mack is not a reliable test 10. He is brilliant in broken play, but he is too unpredictable and prone to making silly mistakes when play is not going his way. We need Mounga back at all costs. We need a ball playing 12 or 13, and we desperately need a Nonu/Laumape in the middle of the park. We have no scary forwards...when teams are running at us are they looking out of the corner of their eye to see where Jerry Collins or Kaino is lurking?

[@lockk132]

You got it...our game plan our style of play is outdated😊

[@actiaint]

What game plan: first receivers too wide telegraphing the opposition, a first five who was third pick last year and worst of all the continued use of the word “learnings” change it to “doing”.

[@KanineMinor94]

​@@tinymahuta spot on. Even as a Chiefs die-hard, I don't think DMac is the man for the job. Assuming Mo'unga isn't back any time soon I'd rather see Beaudy back at 10 with DMac possibly in the 23 jersey at best but even then I'd like to see Love given a crack.

[@2ztala]

There is no loyalty to each other. I heard Sevi talking about Mounga and there’s a lot of talk about the comparison between the number tens. Furthermore if you have noticed the seemingly obvious bias towards the Crusaders. I think this is affecting the team. Razor’s lack of experience in creating unity for the country sake is showing and I back my argument with the inference he caused with ABs WC campaign. That my friends was all ego.

[@WarrenDonough-m6e]

SA persepctive here.... This is a good show, enjoyed very much. You guys make more sense for the most part than that other show. The problem is, there is no 1 problem, so let me try and elaborate. 2023 world cup NZ and their fans were being written off, harsh and unfair, the ABs still made the final. I'd avoid knee jerk reaction, take the loss and move on. If you guys are looking for scrums to dominate, and gain line dominance and 6/2 split , I feel you are looking at another teams DNA. The team needs a smack against the head and a reminder to be hungrier and step up . They underestimated Argentina and didn't follow the coaches instructions. Why is that even an option? We in SA know all blacks will be back as soon as they gain their edge and fear factor back. I do think the coach is confused snd that shows on the players faces.

[@Wheres_My_Sports_At]

James Parsons is so knowledgeable and balanced in his opinions.

[@kitdyer8968]

They need to work on the Blues style of game muscle up in forwards and out to the backs easy

[@dimitardobrev3296]

Such good vibes on this Pod. You have a new SA sub

[@GAZZA1433]

I like this show a lot more than the Breakdown, more chilled lol and more tactical analysis.

[@seamus9750]

So great to see the Argies making a statement. Let's see if they can back it up this week!

[@samlaunder9271]

Best rugby analysis out there. Cheers from the USA

[@krlauf5307]

you guys should consider Hoskins Sotutu, that guy is MEAN!

[@danryan2810]

Intelligent & insightful commentary... thoroughly enjoyable. Great chemistry amongst the panel.

[@Mcarran1]

ABs were unable to adjust their game strategy, Argentina stepped up there defence at halftime, the ABs stopped applying pressure by kicking through or over on attack and chasing to put them on the back foot and continued to try and barrel their way through while Argentina were almost standing in our attacking line.

[@davidpeters3857]

💯

[@iandummer3237]

Magnificent episode, well done chaps! 🙌

[@patricksegakweng1676]

You guys are awesome,I really enjoyed your show.

[@classicMrE]

These players are more worried about being show ponies for social media, if they can't handle the Pumas forward pack then South Africa will absolutely pummel them.

[@nzfreeski]

Disagree - all players now are on social media - the Boks are great (they’re number 1) but we have a young team with only a handful of older guys - will take time

[@MetYsJa]

nice to get some praise from the kiwis for a change. Im pretty sure Aus will be more competitive this week against our fresh faced side, and im certain nz will bounce back hard too.

[@simonvanrysewyk9376]

Awesome analysis, as usual! Loved the commentary on mental skills and the SAFA scrum.

[@quentinadkins432]

Boks supporter here. You don't get a weak AB side. Dont know much about players in NZ that could replace? With bigger and/or fitter? Is it selection issues in NZ? We love the AB's but dont know if AB's were weak as much as Argie showed up big time. Pumas had freakishly good handing at times. Mature well rounded views thanks guys 🇿🇦

[@mrneutral-ish9595]

Spot on analysis once again. As a combination Bok/AB supporter (depending on who the boks play😊) I think a bad loss has always done more to spark NZ than it has SA. The All Blacks always seem to rise to new levels (2009, 2022 & '23 Twickenham). Razor is sharp and they definitely have the players.

[@elray5898]

South Africa looks like the REAL DEAL CHAMPIONS. - ABs are rebuilding and look really vulnerable let's see how they progress. Great chat guys.

[@dazf.c6902]

SA have looked great but they played Wales and Australia who are both struggling?

[@rubendutoit586]

Australia was just shockingly bad. They were on the Springboks 5 meter line 8 times and each time made a handling error. Australia would have lost by 20+ against Argentina if they played.

[@JacoJordaan-yw2nh]

​@@dazf.c6902We played Ireland and Australia.

[@subhuman119]

By beating Wales and Australia they are the real deal? But losing to Ireland? Take this with a grain of salt, but nothing has changed with South Africa. Springbok fans will say otherwise of course, claiming that Tony Brown has changed their team, etc etc. But with all the possession, dominance and penalties that Australia gave away, they only scored 33 points, and it was 21-0 nil at half time. With all that ball and the so called expasive running game they have, they should have put 50 on the Wallabies.

[@chicky86-bu3po]

​@@subhuman119.just another individual who believes teams must get pumped with all ball in hand..U don't give credit to the opposition.. Argentina outplayed nZ so did the Boks...just another SA hater

[@JamesSmith-qr7be]

This is so much better than the breakdown just saying things how it is without worry about what they should or shouldnt say.

[@hanudejong655]

Love your work boys!

[@jacobh1867]

So much better than The Breakdown. The only shame is this show apparently isn't allowed any clips to show of the games and plays they're talking about.

[@molapotsasanyane9855]

To even think you can even play the 15man game at test level without abrasive physicality and mongrel is crazy. Since I got introduced to the All Blacks in 1995, they have always had a few hard physical men with abrasive physicality and a lot of mongrel (e,g Jerry Collens, Brad Thorn, Ali Williams, Jerome Kaino, etc). This changed after 2015. Abrasive physicality and mongrel , together with skill-set, smarts and flair, are all important ingredients that created the most successful test team in history. It seems post 2015 NZ coaches and selectors started to only value the ingredients that made it to the highlight reels.

[@jegglejuice8864]

Completely agree, it’s seems fans down under are only happy with spectacular tries, goal line to goal line, 16 passes total score a try, creating props who are more mobile, good hands to pass but unable to scrum. The reason for the bomb squad is because we had world class props 2/3 for each position. Instead of picking 2 starters and letting the others go play in Europe, Rassie saw the opportunity to have 2 world class front rows to scrum for 80 minutes at a high intensity. Daan Human the forwards coach doesn’t use scrum machines. He uses his to packs against each other. RSA sides had minimal success in Super Rugby but it exposed NZ / AUS teams to the physicality and strength needed by forwards. We have some many unions in RSA that can’t be part of international competitions. So Why doesn’t SANZAR approach SARU to include the Cheetahs, Pumas & EP Kings

[@molapotsasanyane9855]

@@jegglejuice8864 Very well said.

[@haasteagle2750]

They haven't found another Jerome Kaino in a long time. Shannon Frizell left prematurely he was just reaching the level needed for test matches then he was gone. Ethan Blackadder is not the answer he gets man handled and gives away the most ridiculous penalties. Also, the locks are way too small with no attitude I don't understand what they see in Tupou Vaa'i I've never seen him play good at the Chiefs let alone the All Blacks he doesn't have it either.

[@austingtir]

Blackadder should be playing 7. He's a 7 not a 6 or 8. He offers completely different abilities to the rest of our loosies he offers better facilitation to the back and imo is the best potential lineout loose forward other than S Barrett. He won the key lineout steal that could of kept us in that match then Ardie and co messed it all up and lost us the game with that pass that ended up in the ingoal. He was also key in with carrying in the leadup to the Talea try. If he's used correctly he'll be another McCaw for us but the entire loose forward trio isnt working as a unit atm and the main blame for that needs to go to Ardie he was completely missing in action as a captain on the weekend. If it was my team Id drop Ardie to the bench as an impact player and run Sotutu and Akira Ioane at 6 and 8 with Blackadder at 7. But that horse has already well and truly bolted with Akira in Japan. NZR is letting too many top players go. Akira, Frizzel and Mounga should all be in the squad this year along with Sotutu. They need to allow dispensation to allow certain top players (maybe 5 or 6) to play in japan for big money then come back for the international season.

[@vaydahmason33]

Darryl same height as Whitelock and Josh Lord is the same as Rettalick. Both aren't as heavy, but both could have done with some mentoring from both.

[@puregrunt]

@@austingtir akira are you alright?

[@austingtir]

@@puregrunt The blues were completely dominant for a reason. Akira came of age this year and deserved a spot im talking ahead of Jacobson or Satiti. Akira and Sotutu are better players than those two.

[@pixelpotato4874]

​​@@austingtirDid you watch him against Wellington,he did some good things but not a complete performance,if they're talking about mongrels,Du Plessis Kirifi is a competitor... always in the oppositions face

[@montielwm]

Gallo 25, Ruiz 23, Elias 20, Molina 26, Rubiolo 21, Kremer 27, Gonzalez 23, Santiago Carreras 26, Mateo carreras 24, Chocobares 25, Cinti 24, Mallía 27, Delgui 27, Oviedo 23, Pedemonte 24, Sordoni 26, Vivas 26... 24,5 years old avg. I think you need to expect more of this years to come, don't you? Cheers from Argie!

[@silvergold9084]

All guys in their prime or just going into their prime! Been watching the Argies for a while i was impressed with their win against the frogs (all be it their supposive B-team), I was most impressed with your halfback and forwards, from a Kiwi, you guys have a few good years to come keep the hunger and keep it up well done!

[@user-vs2hr1wq8d]

Pumas big problem is consistency. Can beat any team in the world on a good day. But don't be surprised if they get a shellacking by the ABs next game.

[@nmatienzo]

@@user-vs2hr1wq8dagree 100%! That’s the big challenge ahead

[@kpm25]

@user-vs2hr1wq8d. don't be surprised if the ABs lose 2 nil...

[@rubendutoit586]

The Springboks was average to be fair. Australia allowed them to look good by their poor performance. 8 times on the goal line and every single time coughed up the ball. Argie was on fire and I think any team playing them should be concerned, especially in Argentina

[@winstonstowers9121]

I think what people mean by mongrel is a player who just loves contact and looks for it, like sam cane defensively or Kaino or collins or Patty or chris jack or brad thorn etc. Players who just want that contact all game long and love it

[@terrykirby-fahey7363]

Excellent point.

[@LeRobusier]

I reckon Tuipolotu hasn’t used his size enough in the past. This season under Cotter he is starting to show his potential by lowering his body height and using his leg drive after contact more. Sotutu also has the physical attributes but seems to have a bit of a sulky attitude.

[@WarrenDonough-m6e]

Mongrel=Dog, now think wild dog and go attack. Tackle fetch, steal hit, at highest intensity possible

[@ss2gora0]

The fact we've forgotten what mongrel means says it all 😂

[@khayasontsele8984]

I realise the producers of this show don’t flex and involve their fans and really make this platform legendary

[@AB_Sanj]

So much talent available in the squad- we just need the right balance for the game plan. My thoughts on loosies (changes) are 6. Sittiti, 7. Cane 8. Savea (Finau and Jacobsen/ Blackadder off the bench). The backs are 10. Barrett 11. Caleb Clarke, 14. Talea or Love 15. Jordan (Ruben Love / Talea and DMac on the bench). Remember that we have a very calm and skilled skilled Harry Plummer as well.

[@eliehhajj]

Very realiatic, honest, fact based and unbiased podcast🤜

[@oldblack15]

One minute in and happy to see all three in the studio. Please can you get better connections for future live out of studio feeds?

[@AndrewAW-w2l]

Great POD from 🇿🇦

[@ericcss7]

The best rugby show by far

[@mjribes]

Is Razor the Kiwi Heyneke Meyer? Selected as coach one RWC cycle too late?

[@karenmckenzie5931]

I love this show and the panel are great! Can I ask why you have the ( annoying) moving background? I just think it's quite distracting from what the panel are saying.

[@marksimpson289]

Great chat and insight!

[@Lesssvav]

Razor has consistently said postgame’s that the team hasn’t implemented what they’ve been training‼️translation: the players haven’t bought in to his strategies and it’s showing. THATS what we need to fix first.

[@DrissZyanisorrybutyourtimeisfi]

Too messages with too coaches overall..the reason principal

[@nvwcj22]

With the amount of coaches Razor's brought in, the players look like they're all disjointed! Too many coaches, too many mistakes too many promises from Razor!!!

[@nvwcj22]

@@brianbarbarich1401 I reckon it's more of a case of the players are doing what the 15 different coaches are telling them to do but it's not working!

[@stealthpakfa]

Too many coaches have confused the players. They are disjointed.

[@colinedwards7367]

Thanks you three I enoyed your comments, looking forward to seeing the All Blacks in Cape Town.

[@DanielCotterall]

One of your best episodes, congrats! Apart from fixing the abysmal kick receipt performance, there is - as you said - a lack of penetrating ball carriers so there are three players that need to be brought in to the mix: Billy Proctor, Wallace Sititi, Caleb Clarke... not to mention Tuipulotou if available

[@ss2gora0]

Wallace sisiti was already in the mix..and he looked lost on the field.

[@crownandglory21]

Why was it a shock ? We got beat get over it ! Pumas pressure was in point and their defence was awesome

[@gizmoza]

I tend to agree. Playing quality sides such as the Pumas, a win shouldn't be expected, which if it is, means the mindset needs to change because you overlooking the opposition.

[@crownandglory21]

@@gizmoza yeah man teams are getting better and the pumas have always been a great side . Just find it’s a bit arrogant that some of us think teams shouldn’t beat us because we are the All Blacks .

[@Keepitsimple183]

Exactly full credit to the Argies... They are a very well drilled side not to mention that the Argies put 50 odd on France a few weeks back.. No surprise what so ever.. Should be applauding the Argies they completely out played the AB's and in showed I'm happy I put $100 on them to win..😮

[@dariankrieger4813]

These three comments are the most realistic views off all the stuff I have heard since Saturday.

[@Magz-101]

That’s the part that baffles me. The Springboks are number one but we are never delusional when facing Los Pumas. Anything can happen

[@JackKinross]

Love this podcast, best analysis there is I reckon. I bet Rassie watches it.

[@JoshBeckett-nf1fp]

Was great seeing Bryn playing against Hawkes Bay last weekend!

[@wikuscarstens5264]

First time watching and a quality podcost 🇿🇦. Would you say the AB mistakes came first and then the ARG pressure came? (As you mentioned they were up early on). Most know that the ABs will be a beast the next game and as I said consistantly that the Springboks measure themselves agains the All Blacks. If you dont respect the ABs then its your own demise. SA vs NZ will be epic ❤, but my heart wont survive 😂

[@ss2gora0]

Agreed mate. Argies were class and Springboks are going to new places.. Will be interesting to see SA and NZ match up

[@brentwithey4241]

Daulton over all games so far has been our best loose forward so no room for Caine, what's needed is a dominant 6

[@DavidSmith-yi8ou]

we don’t have one so what do we do? Dalton at 6, Ardie 7, Waititi 8, Jacobson on the bench?

[@potsie7778]

Dalton 6 Savea 7 bring in Sotutu at 8 Satiti looked lost when he came on. Needs more time.

[@derrickmatthee]

Hi guys, great show as always. On the discussion about the line-out play of SA. I want to suggest you do some research on their (SA) line-out coach! That is not a Tony Brown move.

[@worldchampions4379]

In an interview Rassie credited the players for coming up with that move. Also it’s not new in fact it’s an old school move long forgotten just brought back and slightly innovated whereas the ball carrier used to run through the middle in the old days the Boks ball carrier Siya innovated & ran around the blind side

[@StrangerThanFiction593]

Great to hear stats in context

[@JUSTCHILLIN862]

The rugby intellect on the show is pure 🔥💯 , keep up the good work boys 👌🇳🇿😎

[@Ruan-yk7cz]

Replace the breakdown with this panel please🎉

[@hohepateika1]

A well balanced show again. Thanks Gents.

[@duanevermaak3966]

Love this show, as I do The Breakdown. Tons of fun and entertaining thoughts, but can we get the boys a slightly larger desk. These are big boys, mannnn.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

James is in danger of becoming the kirwan of the show. It's ok to let Bryn talk, James, you won't disappear.

[@jegglejuice8864]

Now they must all come to RSA and do a show after each test match and enjoy the vibe before and after the game. I’m sure they can find a sponsor. Eggchasers was here for Ireland series and he is coming back for the AB series

[@rorysullivan4913]

Nobody can be like John Kirwan

[@jonathansua5226]

I thought i was the only one thinking this .. Always cutting in

[@fidget2020]

Agreed, he’s getting just a wee bit full of himself…..

[@boikymcclain449]

Yeah this dude has been like that he’s a bit boring to listen to, slow to get to the point and talks like it’s his IG Live.

[@Mumbles_]

Don’t ever get rid of these 3! Rugby talk at its finest 🫡

[@jegglejuice8864]

We have so many players in RSA and we have unions that only play Currie Cup. Why don’t we approach SANZAR and propose that we enter the Cheetahs, Pumas & EP Kings into Super Rugby, SANZAR must pay these teams a much higher fee than the other teams and bonus payments to the teams that can secure a Springbok in a Super Rugby Team. RSA is basically the centre of world rugby. We can expose our players to northern & southern hemisphere. We must also allow teams to loan players from other competitions. This can help the SR teams in AUS & NZ to get exposure to playing big packs. This will Benifit the talent in SA and SARU must use all the teams to use the pool of players at our disposal

[@Davidvx1468]

Way better pod and analysis than The Breakdown 🙌

[@troymomma]

Agreed, no egos and squibbling

[@mikescudder4621]

Why is it so hard for them to say its a coaching issue??? and that falls on Razors head.

[@nvwcj22]

Totally agreed!!! 💯👍

[@ciaranbrk]

Because it's only his first game of the rugby championship and he's got to rebuild the squad the way he wants to. It's a 4-year cycle ideally you would like to win while also rebuilding but it's not always possible. You're going to have to be patient while razor rebuilds and tries out new Styles. Other teams have obviously developed and changed you have to remember argentina's coach filipe contapomi was the assistant coach in Argentina so they're transition and change hasn't been as drastic. They've kept their core leadership. So they know what they're doing. New Zealand is just after introducing a new head coach, yes Jason Ryan was there last year but razor needs time. Ireland were the same under Andy Farrell. Their first few games were very poor but after one bad Six Nations they become absolutely ruthless. It may take a few games but the abs will get there.

[@OskarBosco-o2w]

Jamie Joseph should join the coaching ticket

[@bertrand727]

Defo not the coaching.. It's a result of nzru board policies keeping the best players at home developing their skills against themselves and the Australians. No hard rugby being played. SA leaving the SR comp has left your players soft! My opinion!

[@nvwcj22]

@@bertrand727 your opinion doesn't count. You don't live here! You don't know what's going on!!!

[@rory7590]

Kudos to this show for having the first real analysis of what went wrong for the All Blacks this last weekend. Yes, the issue is the collisions and the lack of ball carriers. End of. What NZ choose to do about this moving on is the conjecture, but all the rest of the chatter is a waste of air.

[@peterpapas9250]

Great show guys keep it up

[@Edgycoo]

tj not fast enough. Tupo vai, samapeni finau not rugged enough. .Sititi made a crucial new guy error at the line. I get the vibe we just need to commit to playing rugby and stop reinventing the wheel. Get in there and crash and bash and play tactically. The problem with TJ is he has lost faith in running it, so he takes two steps, is he gonna pass is he gonna run, problem is, we all know now, he doesnt back the run. But the habbit of two steps out before passing is still there.

[@davidrabbolini6574]

Brilliant show. Thanks guys.

[@Keepitsimple183]

Full credit to the Argies well played we just lacked Direction from DMac these aimless kicks are killing the ABs great if your the opposition.. Oh not to mention the aimless passing also i thought Beauden was selected as a Flyhalf in the 36 strong Championship squad.. Wasn't WJ brought in to cover fullback.. Weird.

[@nvwcj22]

Yeah how do you justify bringing Jordan in & sticking him on the wing when he hasn't played all season? At least put him in the 15 position to ease him in. It's his specialist position.

[@MickeyMouse-ul2zs]

What a lot of people seem to struggle with is that The Pumas played really good rugby. Make no mistake about this, they are tough and fully deserved the win.

[@sandrah5156]

In a press conference Rassie said the line out move was something that was used when he was playing.

[@ChristoDiedericks-f9g]

Really enjoy this podcast!

[@julianbristow3466]

Please pass this onto Razor and company . . . v Argentina, 2nd test. 1 Tamati Williams 2 Asafo Aumua 3 Pasilio Tosi 4 Sam Darry 5 Josh Lord 6 Samipeni Finau 7 Sam Cane 8 Ardie Savea 9 Cortez Ratima 10 Beauden Barrett 11 Caleb Clarke 12 ALB 13 Billy Proctor 14 Reiko Ioane 15 Will Jordan 16 Codie Taylor 17 Ethan de Groot 18 Tyrell Lomax 19 Tupou Vaa'i 20 Dalton Papali'i 21 Noah Hotham 22 Damian McKenzie 23 Jordie Barrett

[@EdgarJnrJnr]

Too many changes that won’t happen

[@duncanwcraig9668]

Still looking for Razor's unique game plan.

[@WaferBrik]

It's like Trump's health-care plan. Much talked about, never seen.

[@brianbarbarich1401]

Super rugby and test rugby big big difference. Cannot try play super rugby style in a test match.

[@AB_Sanj]

Question by Sanj - Based on. Game 1 not having scrums for 60 mnts... could Razor have substituted the 2 props for Sittiti and Jordan and had 2 faster men on the field for 20 mnts? When the scrum eventually happens, the sub out a back and loosie for the 2 new props? Just checking, as I was not sure if you always need 2 props on the field or is it only for scrums...

[@jamessimpson5092]

Good dialogue guys. I just think we need to get the right players in the right positions and have the right people starting, with the right people coming off the bench. For how good Beauden is, if he came off the bench in the weekend, we win. He is a next level game closer. Aumua is a starter, he doesn't seem to impact when he finishes, but Codey plays well finishing as well. Cane, Savea, Finau start, the moment Finau hits the wall, get Jacobsen on. It just seems like we need to get the mix right, and it will click.

[@matthewviliamu2679]

ABs and fans need to be talking about this team for what it is - a development team at the start of its cycle. The talk seems to be as if this is the 2011-2015 edition and have suddenly fallen off a cliff. This squad is 100s of caps less than last squad, new combinations all over the park and a guy like Dmac who is being given his shot to cement the drivers seat. It’s not easy and the public need to understand this and enjoy the journey back towards the top

[@hubiedoobiedoo]

Nailed it. This should be the top comment

[@subhuman119]

Well said and spot on.

[@khayasontsele8984]

My rugby thoughts are priceless, and worth the risk to listen to or get involved

[@domenico1373]

I think we can all agree - The Mighty All Blacks dominance for an era has come to an end. They 'were' dominant. The power struggle is up North now. The Tri Nations dominated World Rugby 1995-2019. Its over now. Except the Boks have also moved north. It is another era we witnessing now of rugby.

[@chrisedwards9441]

The ironic thing is South Africa's improvements have occurred because NZ and Aus pushed us away! We are now starting to run the ball more and are looking very dangerous. Again, that's a product of other teams criticising our style of play. The Beast that we are becoming is a product of poking the bear a little too much! Haha!

[@Charlie-uz8vb]

Lol NZ has won every rugby championship since 2019 and were one point of winning the RWC

[@domenico1373]

@@Charlie-uz8vb its good to have memories when the present looks gloomy. NZ are not now what they were in 2019-22. And def not what they were in 2015-18. There has been a slight decline. Regarding the WC? NZ choked in the final last year. They had 2 shots at goal, missed. I would be quiet about that. Its not a badge of honour.

[@reabetswekhiba7551]

We need to give credit to Deon Davids- he is the forwards coach for the Boks