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@chelarch4161
@chelarch4161 2 ай бұрын
People will clown Rory but BY FAR the worst take of the video is Thiago over fabregas🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chelarch4161
@chelarch4161 2 ай бұрын
I stand corrected, mane over hazard🤣🤣🤣
@chelarch4161
@chelarch4161 2 ай бұрын
No firmino over drogba, it gets worse and worse🤣🤣
@dylanmurg8078
@dylanmurg8078 2 ай бұрын
Robertson over Cole
@marko9463
@marko9463 2 ай бұрын
@@chelarch4161mane over hazard is not that bad. Dont get me wrong hazard is definitely better but Mane is top 5 best prem wingers of all time
@adamfarrow9949
@adamfarrow9949 2 ай бұрын
Fabregas was far from his prime tho at Chelsea. I admit that he was one of the best midfielders in the world at his best but he really wasn't anything special when he was at chelsea
@John-sg4gq
@John-sg4gq 2 ай бұрын
Rory’s a clown, but Robertson over Ashley Cole is mental.
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
Robertson is much better going forward.
@limofootball
@limofootball 2 ай бұрын
​@@ppo9200😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@LiverpoolNSkinz4Eva
@LiverpoolNSkinz4Eva 2 ай бұрын
All time assists leader as a defender
@Nightsu
@Nightsu 2 ай бұрын
“robertson has more assists” you already know the casual fifa fans will say that as the only metric when robertson outside of crossing is mediocre
@thepapadanshow1407
@thepapadanshow1407 2 ай бұрын
But we are talking Mourinho era and Cole never even won the league with Mourinho. Mourinho first 2 seasons were his beat and Cole was still at Arsenal.
@jimjohn7327
@jimjohn7327 2 ай бұрын
We at Chelsea do not claim Rory
@maximumpotential3796
@maximumpotential3796 2 ай бұрын
Rory is right on this one.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 ай бұрын
@@jimjohn7327 can tell you haven't watched the video
@jimjohn7327
@jimjohn7327 2 ай бұрын
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 the likes speak for themselves 😴
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 2 ай бұрын
@@jimjohn7327 Rory was right???
@Pastas666
@Pastas666 2 ай бұрын
@@jimjohn7327 Nah just a repeated joke on this channel Not that original
@joet5901
@joet5901 2 ай бұрын
Rory not having Van Dijk is mental 💀
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker 2 ай бұрын
Even Cahill has a better legacy than him, overrated defender........
@loganbutler8984
@loganbutler8984 2 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficialGobbledyGookerdoes that mean he was a better player?
@jayqoutes3780
@jayqoutes3780 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker Rhian Brewster has a better legacy than nkunku does that make him a better player you idiot
@Swan94y
@Swan94y 2 ай бұрын
Terry is clear
@garethm9523
@garethm9523 2 ай бұрын
How did I know Rory's selections before the first player was picked.
@iamrobkershaw
@iamrobkershaw 2 ай бұрын
Not having the best LB from the PL of all time in this team is a disgrace.
@steveallen-q7m
@steveallen-q7m 2 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video or read the title? Cole under mourinho is far away from being best LB of all time. All time yes Cole is most definitely best but when they add stipulation of Mourinho vs klopp then the answer is different, Rooney you could argue is the best ST the prem has had but if someone said you could only use Rooney from his second stint at Everton he wouldn’t make a top 50 prem strikers
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
They chose the best attacking left back.
@McG1NN
@McG1NN 2 ай бұрын
Rory Jennings shouldn’t be allowed to speak on football. The fact he gets paid to speak on it and it is his job shows that you genuinely can be anything in life folks. Never give on your dreams then I guess 💪
@Mmyytt95
@Mmyytt95 2 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 ай бұрын
@@McG1NN cry more it's embarrassing
@RunningFlan
@RunningFlan 2 ай бұрын
People like you (and me now by replying) are the reason he's so big, influencer punditry has become all about interactions and stupid opinions increase engagement. Whether we would like to admit it or not, we enjoy being able to call someone else stupid and mock them in comments, but this just puts more money in his bank.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 ай бұрын
@@RunningFlan well said people are so clueless
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 2 ай бұрын
He literally had the better selection here. Obviously he’s biased but Paul had 9 Liverpool players; he was even more biased. The fact that they chose 3 Liverpool players in the back 5 is pure recency bias. I don’t think Rory’s point about conceding 15 goals was given the due respect. Those of us who watched it in real time know how disgustingly solid Chelsea were. I’ve never seen anything like it before or since.
@thomaswilliam4015
@thomaswilliam4015 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but this is stupid. Not only because we'll never ever get an unbiased opinion from these guys... but mostly, omitting anything Chelsea players have done outside of Mourinho's era. He was at Chelsea for 3 seasons (first time) opposed to Klopp's 9. "74 appearances for Cole, so how does he get in?" Why not fill it with Liverpool players then? This isn't a Klopp vs Mourinho debate, Imagine debating Pep's Barca vs Pep's City and having De Bruyne over Xavi because Xavi only did 4 seasons with him whereas De Bruyne has 9 or 10?
@rebirthbot2869
@rebirthbot2869 2 ай бұрын
Xavi will always top de bruyne. Xavi and Iniesta are the best midfielders ever. I dont think any player from city wil come in that team. Maybe mahrez or a central defender will make that team.
@thomaswilliam4015
@thomaswilliam4015 2 ай бұрын
@@rebirthbot2869 completely missed my point…
@benedictharrison2819
@benedictharrison2819 2 ай бұрын
@@thomaswilliam4015 he's a bot, critical understanding isn't his strong suit. Agree with you though, 74 appearances of Ashley Cole, arguably top 3 English defenders ever, still beats the 300 Robertson had. Outrageous really
@kayykayy33
@kayykayy33 2 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have worded it any better👏🏽💯
@Anon97123
@Anon97123 2 ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 the point’s gone over your head. That may be true, but the whole concept is dumb. If you’re only looking at the time these guys have played under those managers, obviously the Liverpool players are going to come out on top. Because they played like 8 years under him. Whereas with the Chelsea players you’re basically only looking at what they did for 3 of the years they did at Chelsea and ignoring everything else they did. Nothing one player does in 3 years will compare to what another player did in 8 will compare. So it’s a stupid conversation to even have. They should’ve been comparing the players that played under Mourinho and Klopp, but just accounted for everything they did at the clubs. There’s honestly no point making the video if the comparison is set up to only look at a 3 year sample of the Chelsea players and 8 year sample of the Liverpool players.
@Neo-oq3rx
@Neo-oq3rx 2 ай бұрын
Ashley Cole not in the team is absolutely criminal. The only English player who could get in the world 11 year after year who was world class
@footballtemple5299
@footballtemple5299 2 ай бұрын
Overall ofc, but he only played 74 under Mourinho ffs
@georgebaker3209
@georgebaker3209 2 ай бұрын
Gerrard
@Neo-oq3rx
@Neo-oq3rx 2 ай бұрын
@@georgebaker3209 nope he couldn’t get in the world 11 year after year with the players that were about. Cole could though
@amanpreetsingh2936
@amanpreetsingh2936 2 ай бұрын
I think they agreed he's the better player, it was about less appearances under Jose Mourinho
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, complete joke not having Cole. Embarrassing
@BlankityBlank237
@BlankityBlank237 2 ай бұрын
Klopp had 9 years at Liverpool? The Longevity argument doesn't make sense in the era comparison when Mourinho had only 3 years in both stints.
@ShabanHanif-fj9bj
@ShabanHanif-fj9bj 2 ай бұрын
Mourinho side was better
@GreatIvan25
@GreatIvan25 2 ай бұрын
Mouriho had four years and all unbeaten at home what do you mean 😂😂😂😂
@GreatIvan25
@GreatIvan25 2 ай бұрын
He also came to Epl again and won it
@Lukqru
@Lukqru 2 ай бұрын
Please don’t be Rory please don’t be Rory please don’t be rory
@Lukqru
@Lukqru 2 ай бұрын
Ffs
@steve_o734
@steve_o734 2 ай бұрын
He's actually one of the most entertaining guy there 😂
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 ай бұрын
You love this guy don't you... ​@@Lukqru
@Lukqru
@Lukqru 2 ай бұрын
Actually I finished the video he was pretty good
@lee84
@lee84 2 ай бұрын
Said the same thing
@LiamJM10
@LiamJM10 2 ай бұрын
Ignoring the incredible biases, the segment is a mess. Klopp managed far longer than Jose and in one continuous spell. Jose didn't. So to resort to things like appearances as a comparison tie breaker seems silly because it's far less likely that players will have played under Jose in both spells, yet players who only played in either spell instantly get dismissed because the appearances aren't comparable to a Klopp player. Liverpool fan trying to dismiss Cech because he didn't win an international tournament has to be a bit.
@m0rdecai_13
@m0rdecai_13 2 ай бұрын
I was laughing at the Cech part, absolutely insane take. It's like saying Haaland is a trash player because he's never won anything on the international stage. Ffs Kane is one of the best English players ever and he's not even won a trophy at club level, let alone international level.
@prabingrg4682
@prabingrg4682 2 ай бұрын
For Liverpool fans what did Alison won for Brazil national team?
@sentfromsaturn
@sentfromsaturn 2 ай бұрын
@@prabingrg4682Copa America
@thomaswilliam4015
@thomaswilliam4015 2 ай бұрын
There is absolutely nothing fun about this. Rory picked a single Liverpool player and Paul picked 2 Chelsea players. No point having these guys on if the don't have an honest discussion. Carvalho over VVD is so boring. Thaigo in such a list is just stupid. Firmino over Drogba might be the worst take of the video. Mane over Hazard.... NOTHING. FUN. ABOUT. THIS.
@nosherwanali5610
@nosherwanali5610 2 ай бұрын
Where's manes poty​@bendodsworth2373
@rileypearce2597
@rileypearce2597 2 ай бұрын
@bendodsworth2373 one of the worst things ive read in a while mate
@thecraggsyshow2087
@thecraggsyshow2087 2 ай бұрын
@@rileypearce2597hazards overrated
@rileypearce2597
@rileypearce2597 2 ай бұрын
@@thecraggsyshow2087 not comparable to mane
@thecraggsyshow2087
@thecraggsyshow2087 2 ай бұрын
@@rileypearce2597 mate he isn’t wouldn’t even say he’s better than Man City sterling
@zinan2959
@zinan2959 2 ай бұрын
Ashley cole not being in the team just automatically makes this video invalid
@zinan2959
@zinan2959 2 ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 I want some of the stuff you take if you think Ashley Cole isn’t good enough to be in that team 😂
@mahdiali872
@mahdiali872 2 ай бұрын
I mean they rated from the time they played under certain managers. If it was all Time then definitely Ashley Cole over Andy Robertson
@salemalsubaie9515
@salemalsubaie9515 2 ай бұрын
@@mahdiali872 Ashley cole has only one aspect to his game Robertson has everything attacking defending
@mattwoods478
@mattwoods478 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@salemalsubaie9515
@thecraggsyshow2087
@thecraggsyshow2087 2 ай бұрын
@@zinan2959did you not listen to what they were saying or are you deaf
@datboidiego9164
@datboidiego9164 2 ай бұрын
Andy Robertson over THE Ashley Cole?! Are you mad! I don’t care what era we’re talking about, Ashley Cole gets in this team during any era
@Kotarachkov
@Kotarachkov 2 ай бұрын
Robertson over Ashley Cole is downright assinine and I'm not even a Chelsea fan. It's truly ridiculous
@jayuk83
@jayuk83 2 ай бұрын
Did you listen to their arguments? If you google “Ashley Cole Mourinho”, the top result is literally A Cole saying, “I didn’t play well under Mourinho” 😂.
@Kotarachkov
@Kotarachkov 2 ай бұрын
I did. Still, he was quite literally the best left back in the world at the time, so yeah I do not agree with this one bit ​@@jayuk83
@Forcedmonkey
@Forcedmonkey 2 ай бұрын
Irrelevant when the guy who made fhat argument then chose Thiago over Fabregas 🤷🏻‍♂️🤯 ​@@jayuk83
@KieranDawson-u6g
@KieranDawson-u6g 2 ай бұрын
Ashley Cole over his career was a better lb than robbo. But for this particular game Mourinho/Klopp eras Robbo wins.
@Hhammer
@Hhammer 2 ай бұрын
@@jayuk83 The argument actually was a joke. Joe choosing Trent over Ivanovic because Trent is a better player, but then actually says that even though Cole is a better player, Roberton played more (idiotic argument).
@albieo
@albieo 2 ай бұрын
Not putting Fabregas and Cole is criminal
@dylantalbot4052
@dylantalbot4052 2 ай бұрын
To not put Ashley Cole in is absolutely criminal
@robbiekop7
@robbiekop7 2 ай бұрын
Claude Makelele for me is better shout than Michael Essien as a midfielder
@crookieee
@crookieee 2 ай бұрын
Th argument was fair..
@vihan3423
@vihan3423 2 ай бұрын
It was about specific eras and Robbo for Klopp clears
@fivestarman5130
@fivestarman5130 2 ай бұрын
Well given that prime Ashley Cole was a Chelsea player for a single season and one month under Mourinho (13/14 doesn't count because Ashley Cole was years past his best and barely played that season) whereas Robertson played in Klopps Liverpool for 7 seasons, then his exclusion here is absolutely justified
@yoloforlife8678
@yoloforlife8678 2 ай бұрын
@@fivestarman5130well said
@jordanosborne6610
@jordanosborne6610 2 ай бұрын
Picking Trent over Ivonovic is CRAZY.
@AhmedAhmed-n5v9l
@AhmedAhmed-n5v9l 2 ай бұрын
No makelele is crazy
@bicks82
@bicks82 2 ай бұрын
Was going to say this, Fabinho over Makelele makes zero sense.
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
​@@bicks82fabinho was much more well rounded.
@benpriest1418
@benpriest1418 2 ай бұрын
I think I speak for both Chelsea and Liverpool fans that Rory and Paul are the two worst people you can keep getting to speak for us.
@liam1165
@liam1165 2 ай бұрын
It's only been 2 minutes and Rory has already brought up "we only conceded 15 goals all season" 7 times
@jamezsexton5666
@jamezsexton5666 2 ай бұрын
And livarpool still managed to get 3 defenders in that defence crazy 😂
@scottyh1238
@scottyh1238 2 ай бұрын
crazy that he brought up the least goals conceded record in the history of European football?
@scottyh1238
@scottyh1238 2 ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 Rory is a punish but its pretty much the main basis for the defenders being Chelsea since they did their job better than any team in history, so id say, its pretty relevant. Not to mention Paul just dismissed the point like its irrelevant.
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
​@@scottyh1238 mourinho parked two buses in most games,if that team played with a very highline it would have leaked a massive number of goals. Mane,firmino and Salah have scored and created more per game(over multiple seasons)than any other front 3,but only salah got in to this team.
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 2 ай бұрын
He needs a new argument.
@JamesG89
@JamesG89 2 ай бұрын
I hate Rory, but Ivanovic is the most overlooked Premier league player of all time
@Limebradley
@Limebradley 2 ай бұрын
Na that’s son heun-min
@JamesG89
@JamesG89 2 ай бұрын
@@Limebradley that's a really good shout to be fair. When people talk about Ivanovic they just think he was this brute at RB but forget how many goals he scored and not just headers
@aron4795
@aron4795 2 ай бұрын
Dembele from Spurs tho
@YbeltalBelachew-q3l
@YbeltalBelachew-q3l 11 күн бұрын
fax
@MyTake_editz
@MyTake_editz 2 ай бұрын
This could either turn out to be a masterclass if opinions, or something so bad IShowSpeed could do better. Most likely gonna be the second one.
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker 2 ай бұрын
Rory is such a tool........
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 2 ай бұрын
All chelsea fans are like rory​@@TheOfficialGobbledyGooker
@bastidota
@bastidota 2 ай бұрын
@@hyywe240 nope we don't claim him, if you want real opinions with enough football knowledge come to the Bridge and we'll answer you
@teddyeastside8051
@teddyeastside8051 2 ай бұрын
3 Liverpool defenders against a team that set the defensive record??
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 2 ай бұрын
Defending against teams worse than Everton? So maguire and stones, southgates England were our best ever?
@kcirtap00
@kcirtap00 2 ай бұрын
Well ine team used to defend on the halfway line, the other ones tactic was to score the first goal and then defend in the own box with 10 men.
@KeyzKieran
@KeyzKieran 2 ай бұрын
The defenders who let in only 22 goals while playing a high line, while Chelsea parked the bus.
@teddyeastside8051
@teddyeastside8051 2 ай бұрын
@@ashwilliams4959 Everton were a Spurs level team back then, how old are you?
@teddyeastside8051
@teddyeastside8051 2 ай бұрын
@@kcirtap00so every Chelsea attacker is better than every Liverpool one because they played well even though they defended so much
@0344478
@0344478 2 ай бұрын
As a neutral, Rory is correct with his Ivanovich call.
@karlstephen8939
@karlstephen8939 2 ай бұрын
The amount of people, Rory included, who have completely misunderstood the brief is equally painful and hilarious.
@yoloforlife8678
@yoloforlife8678 2 ай бұрын
Ikr I was just thinking that exact same thought myself
@karlstephen8939
@karlstephen8939 2 ай бұрын
@@yoloforlife8678 the overly tribal, emotional reaction gets boring aye 😂
@gordonosullivan8799
@gordonosullivan8799 2 ай бұрын
No Ashley Cole 😂, take down this video FFS, EMBARRASSING
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou 2 ай бұрын
Robbo is criminally underrated
@MRCL-190
@MRCL-190 2 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t even get a mention in the top 20 LB of all time. Whereas Cole is top 3.
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou
@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou 2 ай бұрын
@@MRCL-190 go on, name 20 lb better
@MRCL-190
@MRCL-190 2 ай бұрын
@@RelaxingSoundsJustForYou Maldini. Cole. Carlos. Irwin. Lizarazu. Zambrotta. Alaba. Evra. Breitner. Marcelo. Facchetti. Krol. Alba and Abidal were quality too. Only a red and someone under 25 would name Robertson. Recency bias and lack of any decent football knowledge is showing by your comment
@Sinatratrix
@Sinatratrix 2 ай бұрын
He’s ass
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 2 ай бұрын
@@MRCL-190when your in town… beers on me 🍻
@vihan3423
@vihan3423 2 ай бұрын
I think people forget how insane Fabinho was in his prime. LFC had lacked a world class DM for years ever since Mascherano left and then Fabinho came in, took his time to adjust and the completely locked tf in to help LFC win the UCL and the PL. In fact Liverpool prolly wouldn't even have lost against City 2-1 had Fabinho started that game but couldn't because of a fitness issue (as far as I can remember). People should also remember that he had to deal with Trent and Robbo bombing forward all the time and single handedly used to kill opposition transitions by sweeping around. He was literally called "The Lighthouse" because of his awareness and game intelligence. The only reason he declined so early is because of the way LFC ran him ragged especially in the 20/21 season where he had to play CB and then suffered a big injury himself after which he was never the same.
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 2 ай бұрын
And yet makelele was still better than
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 2 ай бұрын
@@Graziak5you ever heard of the Fabinho role? Exactly maka all day.
@raymondwong2159
@raymondwong2159 Ай бұрын
he was amazing for a few years, great at breaking up play and pinging nice balls over the top
@tomcannon5106
@tomcannon5106 2 ай бұрын
Robertson over Cole is outrageous and I don’t even support Chelsea 😂
@bilalnpp
@bilalnpp 2 ай бұрын
Ashley cole>robbo Makelele>fabinho
@flickz5800
@flickz5800 2 ай бұрын
@@kcirtap00 Kante never played for Mourinho hah
@kcirtap00
@kcirtap00 2 ай бұрын
@@flickz5800 true
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
Fabinho was a better allround player than makelele.
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 2 ай бұрын
@@ppo9200makelele was better at that job though. That holding midfield position was literally named the makelele position
@SD-nq6kg
@SD-nq6kg 2 ай бұрын
Carvalho was a Bentley , way better then Terry. Won everywhere he went.
@garethkaye1500
@garethkaye1500 2 ай бұрын
Andy Robertson's mum wouldn't pick him ahead of Ashley Cole.
@anzcnam6680
@anzcnam6680 2 ай бұрын
Boss: Why are you late for work Roy: 15 goals, 15 goals conceded
@kaylumhunt
@kaylumhunt 2 ай бұрын
Rory is annoying. But he’s not wrong. Not having Ashley Cole in there is embarrassing
@uniquenessplayz293
@uniquenessplayz293 2 ай бұрын
the fact that fabinho made the starting xi kills me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RossCo.H
@RossCo.H 2 ай бұрын
He is wrong. Carvalho better than van dijk. He's clueless about football
@hawkmanson6136
@hawkmanson6136 2 ай бұрын
Carvalho 1x champions league 3x premier league 1 x euros 1x ueafa cup 1x la liga and 15 goal’s conceded lol
@Stiggi71
@Stiggi71 2 ай бұрын
@@hawkmanson6136 using that logic ederson is better than cech
@uzairjhd9685
@uzairjhd9685 2 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter van dijk is far better
@jpwi8718
@jpwi8718 2 ай бұрын
He never won the Champions league under Mourinho at Chelsea.
@jamesthomas6164
@jamesthomas6164 2 ай бұрын
How is the argument who had the most appearances? 😂 Didn't Klopp spend like 4 years more than Jose did at Chelsea? Of course the Liverpool players will have more appearances.
@SuperLvdr
@SuperLvdr 2 ай бұрын
The fun thing is that Drogba and Firmino are a little similar considering how much they are contributing when being not huge volume scorers.
@robdatta8767
@robdatta8767 2 ай бұрын
There is nothing to debate here. Mourinho over a much shorter period won multiple trophies including 3 Prem titles and Klopp, over nearly a decade, just won 1 league title and 1 Champions League (And let's not forget that during that decade, it took him several transfer windows of poaching Southampton dross like Lambert, Clyne, Lovren, Lallana, etc. to land two gems in Van Dijk and Mane). On that basis alone, this becomes an exercise of which of Klopp's top players (of which there are very few) make it into Mourinho's Chelsea XI. Klopp's notable players are Salah, Alisson, Van Dijk, Mane, TAA, and Robertson (The guy proposing Thiago, Firminho, and Fabinho is clearly 'avin a larf!). Salah walks into most all-time Prem XIs and is a shoo-in. Alisson, great as he is, cannot displace Cech. Van Dijk probably just edges Carvalho, but it really could go either way. Mane goes the same way as Alisson, and just cannot displace Hazard. TAA is a defensive liability that has been proven time and time again, and unfortunately for him, he cannot get into a Mourinho XI as a winger or midfielder. And finally Robertson and Cole is not a contest at all! Starting XI: ----------------------- Cech ----------------------- Azpilicueta --- JT -- Van Dijk --- Cole --------------------- Essien ---------------------- -------- Lampard ------ Fabregas -------- Salah ---------- Drogba --------- Hazard Subs: Alisson, Carvalho, Ivanovic, TAA, Robertson, Henderson, Fabinho, Mane, Costa Reserves: Courtois, Makalele, Wijnaldum, J. Cole, Firminho
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
Klopp never bought lovren,lambert or clyne lol Mourinho had billions of oil money to dip into,never got to a ucl final with chelsea(klopp got to 3 of them)and his higest points total was lower than klopps 99 and 97 points. Klopp was robbed of two titles.He was up against pep,mancitys oil money and tge cheating.
@jpwi8718
@jpwi8718 2 ай бұрын
Lambert, Clyne, Lovren, Lallana were not signed by Klopp.
@SamuelWJackson-mx9vc
@SamuelWJackson-mx9vc 2 ай бұрын
People clearly don’t understand that this was just based on the mourinho era of Chelsea and not their entire Chelsea career
@luismartins7130
@luismartins7130 2 ай бұрын
I'm a Porto fan and I saw Ricardo Carvalho win the Champions league and the Euros for club and country. Probably the best portuguese defefender of all time and still Van Dijk is a better player. Van Dijk will go down as one of the best defenders of all time
@Limebradley
@Limebradley 2 ай бұрын
Portugal’s euros win is the worse of all time: actual joke that was tbh
@kevins9066
@kevins9066 2 ай бұрын
Alisson/Cech either one. Alisson is the better passer but Cech is better on the air Trent-Vvd-Terry-Cole Essien-Lampard-Fabregas Salah-Drogba-Hazard
@inside_theindustry
@inside_theindustry 2 ай бұрын
I cannot believe Ashley Cole didn’t make this team. The greatest left back in PL history by far . And as a spurs fan I have zero bias. I must referee better next time 🤣 Smithy
@BSMAG87
@BSMAG87 2 ай бұрын
They say longevity with one breath and forget Carvalho won 3 prem titles as a starting CB (and would have likely won more if it weren't for arguably the best side English football has ever seen with that attack of Tevez, Rooney and CR7)
@rebirthbot2869
@rebirthbot2869 2 ай бұрын
He was class but Virgil is in the top 5 defenders of all time with terry.
@Derlino1
@Derlino1 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget that Liverpool came second with record breaking points numbers (97 and 92 points). The 97 point season would have won every other year bar two (and one of those Liverpool were the winners), and the 92 point season would have won every season bar seven. Van Dijk was an integral part of that team, a team that in any other era of the Premier League would have dominated, but since they were up against the most dominant team ever in the Premier League, they came short. Man Utd were good, but they were nowhere near as dominant as City are today.
@addygames3139
@addygames3139 2 ай бұрын
It's should of been carvalho and Vvd.Terry and Rio the most overrated cbs ever because they English
@jackreynolds975
@jackreynolds975 2 ай бұрын
@@rebirthbot2869 same argument for Cole against Robertson then?
@BSMAG87
@BSMAG87 2 ай бұрын
@@addygames3139 what are you on about. Terry is the greatest cb the prem has seen. Holds the record for most prem titles as a captain, fewest goals conceded in a season, most prem goals scored by a defender and he achieved all of this with 3 different eras of Chelsea team. And Rio’s also better than VVD tbh
@Sean-wu8qf
@Sean-wu8qf 2 ай бұрын
This show used to be good, now a desperate attempt for attention
@SirEnVo
@SirEnVo Ай бұрын
Repect to Liverpool but surely none of you are actually agreeing with Robo over Cole? 😂💀
@Do27gg
@Do27gg 2 ай бұрын
Fans not realising Rory is a character
@bastidota
@bastidota 2 ай бұрын
As a massive Chelsea fan, this is my combined XI (4-1-2-3) Cech TAA - Terry - VVD- Robertson Henderson - Makelele - Lampard Salah - Drogba - Hazard Carvalho with VVD and Hazard with Mane are close choices
@ninety_ldn
@ninety_ldn 2 ай бұрын
cant believe im saying it but Rory was right - It was indeed lunacy on our screens putting Robertson over Ashley Cole 😂
@nicodiangelo7051
@nicodiangelo7051 2 ай бұрын
Cole played very little under Mourinho, although there’s no doubt he’s clear of Robertson. But in terms of just their time under each manager, unless you’re telling me that Cole is triple the player Robertson is, he dosent get in
@notmyflavva
@notmyflavva 2 ай бұрын
Everyone knows Cole is a better left back than Robbo - one of the best ever. But the argument is about the era’s, and Cole under Mourinho, as he said himself, was not good. If you didn’t know the names and just heard the stats, you’d be choosing Robbo all day.
@natz8737
@natz8737 2 ай бұрын
Why?
@hyrusan
@hyrusan 2 ай бұрын
Nostalgia goggles. Cole wasn't actually at his peak under Mourinho. We're talking about Robertson in his prime breaking assist records (before Trent one upped him)
@steveallen-q7m
@steveallen-q7m 2 ай бұрын
How can so many not understand the concept to this? I’ll try and put it this way Rooney you could argue is the ST for an all time prem 11 but if we only used Rooney second stint at Everton only then he is nowhere near being the all time best prem ST
@Young_Brumm15
@Young_Brumm15 2 ай бұрын
Combined XI: Cech> Ivanovic> Terry Virgil van Dijk> Carvalho Cole> Robertson Lampard Gerrard Cesc Fabregas Salah Hazard> Mané Drogba> Firmino (Drogba is a massive big game player) Just to preface, I'm not a Liverpool or a Chelsea fan. I'm a West Ham fan (a neutral).
@OllieWaite2608
@OllieWaite2608 2 ай бұрын
Robertson over Cole😂😂😂😂
@thetruth4654
@thetruth4654 2 ай бұрын
4-3-3 GK-Cech LB-Robertson CB-Terry CB-VVD RB-Trent DM-Fabinho CM-Lampard CM-Cesc Fabregas LW-Mane(although it could be Hazard, i think Mane would work better along side Drogba, which is why i choose Mane) S-Drogba RW-Salah
@jinayvora6240
@jinayvora6240 2 ай бұрын
Request to give Rory a blue-coloured Mohammad Salah card just for the laughs🤣🤣🤣
@Callum-x4x
@Callum-x4x 2 ай бұрын
“Why should salah not be put in the team” Rory: 15 GOALS CONCEDED
@CFCRyan
@CFCRyan 2 ай бұрын
No Cole is criminal
@maximumpotential3796
@maximumpotential3796 2 ай бұрын
I agree with Rory on this.
@CarefreeCooden
@CarefreeCooden 2 ай бұрын
One of the most disrespectful XI’s ever… a team that won one title in 9 years versus three in 5 years
@etrur2595
@etrur2595 2 ай бұрын
Put up that Chelsea team against the City teams Liverpool went up against and they’d also struggle to win 1 title😂
@CarefreeCooden
@CarefreeCooden 2 ай бұрын
@@etrur2595 silly comment they beat SAF’s Utd and Arsenal’s invincibles. Not to mention this was an era when the English sides regularly had 2-3 sides in CL semi finals year in year out and Chelsea were dominant.
@jamescain707
@jamescain707 2 ай бұрын
Won that with 91 points which klopp has surpassed many times
@CarefreeCooden
@CarefreeCooden 2 ай бұрын
@@jamescain707 95* get your facts right at least!
@etrur2595
@etrur2595 2 ай бұрын
@@CarefreeCooden Liverpool won a CL in the Klopp era, Mourinho era Chelsea didn’t. We can compare PLs all you want but when talking about Liverpool the last trophy you want to compare is the CL🤣
@scottycpt2955
@scottycpt2955 2 ай бұрын
Rory will go on forever about how Chelsea conceded the least amount of goals as a testament as to why they're better defenders than Liverpool, without the admission that Mourinho was a much more defensive minded coach than Klopp. Neither Carvahlo or Terry could do what Van Dijk has done under klopp. He's the best centre back of all time and its not a debate
@amazing_sandla
@amazing_sandla 2 ай бұрын
This thing of measuring full backs by assists and creating chances is crazy
@jasonpayne8014
@jasonpayne8014 2 ай бұрын
I mean...LB purposes were different in the eras, ludicrous that Cole wasn't picked
@RoryJenningsFootball
@RoryJenningsFootball 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me on. Always a joy.
@Bhinder-x1c
@Bhinder-x1c 2 ай бұрын
Its a shame for audience, not joy.
@TheLukeB95
@TheLukeB95 2 ай бұрын
So much waffle
@Redinade
@Redinade 2 ай бұрын
what a disgrace to my eyes to see you and my ears to hear you tory
@zinan2959
@zinan2959 2 ай бұрын
You allowed them to put Fabinho over CESC FABREGAS smh
@keron1274
@keron1274 2 ай бұрын
Awful takes as usual
@jasongray6698
@jasongray6698 2 ай бұрын
GK: Alisson LB:Robertson CB: Van Dijk + John Terry RB:Trent CDM:Fabinho CM:Essien + Lampard RW: Salah ST: Bobby Firmino LW: Sadie Mane
@goodday2139
@goodday2139 2 ай бұрын
Best defensive record the prem has ever seen and you only get the goalkeeper and one of the four defenders in the combined team lol, bit silly
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI 2 ай бұрын
Should have been Alisson dude.
@mightymuppetz
@mightymuppetz 2 ай бұрын
Context is important. They played defensive football in a poor era.
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 2 ай бұрын
@@vidiveniviciDCLXVInot a chance
@raymondwong2159
@raymondwong2159 Ай бұрын
@@Graziak5 i think by the time hes finished, Alisson will be considered the better keeper. Id say Cech is still in front of him for now.
@EvangelAppiahDankwaaop
@EvangelAppiahDankwaaop 2 ай бұрын
Essien is so underrated
@piyushburde7960
@piyushburde7960 2 ай бұрын
Not having Ashley Cole is the most criminal thing ever done in these segments One of the best LB of all time but can't get picked ahead of Robertson
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
They are both the two best left backs since the prem began.Robertson isnot as good defensively,but he was defensively great.Robertson was also much more effective going forward.
@gorilliam
@gorilliam 2 ай бұрын
GK - Cech RB - Trent CBs - Terry/Virgil LB - Cole CDM - Makelele CMs - Lampard/Fabregas RW - Salah ST - Drogba LW - Hazard
@Hhammer
@Hhammer 2 ай бұрын
Joe's argument about coles 72 matches compared to Andy Robertsons 300 is ridiculous. You choose Trent over Ivanovic because he is a 'better player' but then when it comes to Cole, he ignores the 'better footballer' argument. Cole is the right choice. It's just the hip thing to do now to choose liverpool players. boring
@briancarter-h4p
@briancarter-h4p 2 ай бұрын
6 Chelsea players to 5 for Liverpool. Guessing maths as well as football isn't your strong point 😉
@jamezsexton5666
@jamezsexton5666 2 ай бұрын
@@briancarter-h4pyeah that Chelsea team was obviously much better should be much less liverpool players 😉
@briancarter-h4p
@briancarter-h4p 2 ай бұрын
@jamezsexton5666 the exact right number of Liverpool players. Only one that shocked me was Robertson over Cole 🤷‍♂️. VVD, Salah and Trent would have walked into that Chelsea team 😉
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 2 ай бұрын
@@briancarter-h4pas a Chelsea fan them 3 are the only correct answers.
@briancarter-h4p
@briancarter-h4p 2 ай бұрын
@gregordrizzlewing7339 those 3 are the guarantees. You can then comfortably have a debate for Fabinho and Mane.
@manyu9
@manyu9 2 ай бұрын
If life gives you blues, never be a Rory!
@benjaminndiawo606
@benjaminndiawo606 2 ай бұрын
I think this Liverpool side was so good side that didn't win enough trophies. Lost two champions finals , 2 league titles by a point , a Europa league final. If Liverpool had won those then there would have been a conversation of that klopp team being the best ever premier league team
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 2 ай бұрын
But they played during the most corrupt time in football and aren't a high paying or political club
@aq368
@aq368 2 ай бұрын
But they didn't win lol, shows they didn't have the mentally to be compared to the really great teams
@kcirtap00
@kcirtap00 2 ай бұрын
Well the managed to get 99, 97, 94 points. The reason they didn't won more titel is the fact they competed with City against the probably best ever PL side. To use this arguments against players like van Dijk etc. is rediculous.
@thomascollins2727
@thomascollins2727 2 ай бұрын
"if".... 🤣🤣
@benjaminndiawo606
@benjaminndiawo606 2 ай бұрын
@@aq368 but they got more points than the teams you claim had the better mentality. This clearly proves that mentality wasn't an issue they were just against better teams
@raymondwong2159
@raymondwong2159 Ай бұрын
these 2 teams were amazing.. every single position is arguable
@BlessingNkosi-hf3tz
@BlessingNkosi-hf3tz 2 ай бұрын
Making an argument about A.Cole not having enough appearances under Mourinho and then giving a should for Tiago in midfield🤦‍♂️
@shem8729
@shem8729 2 ай бұрын
I’m literally laughing rn😂😂😂
@Thehazardcfcversion
@Thehazardcfcversion 2 ай бұрын
Putting Robertson ahead of the Legendary Ashley is wild.
@agebeabelaluma5401
@agebeabelaluma5401 2 ай бұрын
"You are making a mockery of your own segment" Rory is always so entertaining.
@RPCentral7
@RPCentral7 2 ай бұрын
Disappointed in Paul not putting in Henderson ffs. THIAGO?!
@SerPicchu
@SerPicchu 2 ай бұрын
Rory is too biased for these, I get he has social media attention but there are other Chelsea fan channels that would be so good on here and have never had a look in. There is variation with your other team's fans but Rory seems to be the only one on the books for Chelsea and every time you know exactly what you're gonna get.
@SerPicchu
@SerPicchu 2 ай бұрын
Keep watching and he gives no reasons for his picks. Just want to see a proper debate.
@KTBFFH_CFC
@KTBFFH_CFC 2 ай бұрын
No Ashley Cole is a disgusting omission
@chaniithegranny
@chaniithegranny 2 ай бұрын
Gini was so so underrated in the Klopp era, absolutely outstanding at his role doing all the dirty work
@SholatheAmeobiShoretire
@SholatheAmeobiShoretire 2 ай бұрын
Cech TAA Van Dijk Terry Cole Essien Makelele Lampard Salah Drogba Hazard This is the correct opinion.
@brandonbungu2316
@brandonbungu2316 2 ай бұрын
This was a tough watch
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 2 ай бұрын
People in the comments clowning on Rory but this absolute melt Paul Machin picked Fabinho over Fabregas, Mane over Hazard and Firmino over Drogba ffs. Apart from not including Van Dijk Rory was bang on with his XI.
@mihacebin4341
@mihacebin4341 Ай бұрын
4:41 'We don't go to football to watch clean sheets, we go to see goals' might be my favorite statement in the history of the show
@BriannaMoore-h7l
@BriannaMoore-h7l 2 ай бұрын
The work you put in is obvious!
@DrShakamoto9
@DrShakamoto9 2 ай бұрын
I see Rory, I leave
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 ай бұрын
Yet comment.... Proper virgin
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 2 ай бұрын
Somehow he was the most sensible person in this video which goes to show how moronic that Liverpool fan's takes were.
@Porpoisingporche
@Porpoisingporche Ай бұрын
Leaving Fabregas out of that midfield is ludicrous! 😂 Was such a key figure in Chelsea winning the 2014-15 reason. The assist for Schurrle in his first game for Chelsea is Sublime.
@CintiaJigs
@CintiaJigs 2 ай бұрын
Such a talented creator, seriously!
@wjchwf3027
@wjchwf3027 2 ай бұрын
Cech, Trent, Terry, Van Dijk, Robertson, Essien, Fabregas, Lampard, Hazard, Drogba, Salah
@SuvamRoy229
@SuvamRoy229 2 ай бұрын
Joe just hates Chelsea and shows it every opportunity he gets, it’s criminal to have Robertson over Cole
@athishujmao2654
@athishujmao2654 2 ай бұрын
It was Rory vs Paul & Joe
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
Robertson was great defensively while being much better than cole going forward.
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 2 ай бұрын
@@athishujmao2654yeah the other dude in the light blue had to start chiming in
@DS-dw3pz
@DS-dw3pz 2 ай бұрын
​​@@ppo9200Robertson isnt TAA level when it comes to attacking and defensively Cole was miles better...CR7 would have broken Robertson's legs so many times by making him do the splits
@iceg6149
@iceg6149 2 ай бұрын
Did Thiago even play a game 😂
@somtoenyiaka6836
@somtoenyiaka6836 2 ай бұрын
Gini Wijnaldum is so underrated what he did for us is crazy
@robbiekop7
@robbiekop7 2 ай бұрын
Claude Makelele did similar for Chelsea....Unsung heroes 😩
@jakemyers938
@jakemyers938 2 ай бұрын
Neutral fan here- Why does the ginger guy keep saying Era this era that abs whenever Rory says the conceded 15 goals in that season in that era he’s brushing it off ?
@Sinatratrix
@Sinatratrix 2 ай бұрын
These combined 11s are starting to be pointless. 3 Liverpool defenders when Chelsea had the best defense under that mourinho era. Robertson over cole?????
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
They chose the better attacking left back.They played ultra defensive under jose,if they used a high line they would have conceded alot of goals,they really lacked pace. That front 3 of lfc scored and created the most per game,but only salah got picked.
@182Stanny
@182Stanny 2 ай бұрын
Cech actually only conceded 13 goals as he didnt play the last two games
@loganbutler8984
@loganbutler8984 2 ай бұрын
Hows he having a go at cech for not winning an international trophy 🤣
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 2 ай бұрын
Ikr didn’t know he won the Copa America with Liverpool ffs
@geraldmutti2001
@geraldmutti2001 2 ай бұрын
Did he win it with Liverpool that's so dumb and how is he supposed win a trophy with Czech republic 😂😂😂
@Knowurfact
@Knowurfact 2 ай бұрын
I agree with rory here
@cfc_rambo
@cfc_rambo 2 ай бұрын
Robertson over cole for one good season 😂
@CommodoreMudkip
@CommodoreMudkip 2 ай бұрын
have you been drinking toilet duck?
@cfc_rambo
@cfc_rambo 2 ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 no it isn’t idiot
@raymondwong2159
@raymondwong2159 Ай бұрын
one good season? hes class every season
@qditor2591
@qditor2591 2 ай бұрын
Liverpool having more defenders than a team that conceded 15 PL goals in a season is ridiculous
@jacobpayne9523
@jacobpayne9523 2 ай бұрын
How is Rory getting stick here? The Liverpool fan was on drugs Bobby over drogba?? Robertson over Cole ?? Thiago over fabregas biggest stinker ever
@ihtishamhussain1785
@ihtishamhussain1785 2 ай бұрын
They’re both clowns, but Rory claimed to be unbiased at the start, the other guy didn’t 😂
@ppo9200
@ppo9200 2 ай бұрын
Mane was a far better wide forward than hazard but hazard is a better number 10.Both should be in the team. Drogba was a better finisher but firmino was more creative.Flip of a coin,drogba was a better number 9,but firmino is the best false 9. Robertson was much more effective than cole going forward.
@geraldmutti2001
@geraldmutti2001 2 ай бұрын
​@@ppo9200bro you can't compare firmino with drogba that's embarrassing
@jacobpayne9523
@jacobpayne9523 2 ай бұрын
@@ppo9200 bro watch a different sport football ain’t for you😂😂😂
@renisrael4188
@renisrael4188 2 ай бұрын
Robertson over Ashley Cole is LUNACY!
@aaronpengelly4019
@aaronpengelly4019 2 ай бұрын
Allison over Cech is insane 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jpwi8718
@jpwi8718 2 ай бұрын
FIFPRO World 11 awards: Alisson - 2, Cech - 0.
@zxcvj984
@zxcvj984 2 ай бұрын
How on earth did Makelele not get picked
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