"You've asked me twice, I don't think it's a penalty" 🔎😬 | Ref Watch ANALYSE Forest penalty claims

[@MaseLFC]

Dermot defending the referees? Never saw that coming, this segment is truly unpredictable!

[@alexbelotti1603]

He was a ref for how long? He was involved in match fixing for a decade and is a disciple of the PGMOL. Skysports and the refs are partners.

[@MatthewMcRowan]

we all know ref had his money on Everton

[@willho4202]

He's not wrong though; first one not enough contact for a foul, the handball is very borderline (the issue is more inconsistency with handballs) and the last one was a stonewall pen

[@NachoMon-rea]

@@jimjogger306just ask the dermot fella to run with the ball and kick through the back of his leg with that force… he will change his mind on the first one

[@josephkerrigan733]

@@willho4202 1. "First one not enough contact for a foul" - I agree it's light but they've literally been given this season and if the ref on the pitch gave it there's no chance it would be overturned. 2. "the handball is very borderline (the issue is more inconsistency with handballs)" - I agree but it shouldn't be borderline if they just tell us what they want a handball to be. It seems like for significant portions of this season it's any contact with the hand or arm if its "away from the body" (Very technical description) is a penalty but then they occasionally say stuff like "not enough for me" or "it's very close". They are responsible for this and the PGMOL are the only ones who can fix it yet they don't seem to care 1 bit. 3. "Last one was a stonewall pen" - Agreed. I'm a Villa fan so I really don't care but it's just wrong and the fact that the PGMOL can be so incompetent and there won't be any repercussions makes me feel sick.

[@williamthomson7820]

Asking an ex ref his opinion about his mates, that alone is a bloody joke

[@ZebraKatzWhereItsAt]

Sky Sports not even hiding their corruption at this point.

[@samiliffe]

Please sack off this segment for next season

[@stegill38]

Its a ego back slapping exercise for VAR so they probably wont

[@abdiyusuf7598]

😂 they should call it var excuses show😂

[@lewishurley7690]

It's so badly done the whole show

[@Tom-im5xe]

The rules are the way the are so the refs can call it how they like

[@JasonWilliams89]

​@@Tom-im5xenot true

[@HellaNGMusic]

Dermot Gallagher is a disgrace. He has shown multiple times that he isn't truthful, but rather protects his friends over doing his job. FIRE HIM.

[@deeray4637]

What's the point of this show? Megamind will never disagree with the decisions.

[@rogom-ts4ew]

megamind lmao 💀

[@willho4202]

Literally did for the final decision

[@thabolezwemabandla2461]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@YourDad-h8u]

It's sponsored by pgmol

[@VaeVictis96]

You obviously didn't see him disagree with the 3rd one? Just another sheep saying the same crap about him

[@andreels4338]

I'm an everton supporter, and all 3 were clear pens. It's insane how corrupt this league is.

[@mi-di2jy]

Not the handball

[@thedeepesthat4029]

Which one?​@@mi-di2jy

[@felixfernando2751]

@@mi-di2jyit has been given many many times mate… why is this any different?

[@mm89coyr]

Forest fan. Hope we both stay up. Tbf if the handballs given against you you’d be gutted it is close. But if it’s haaland getting kicked through the officials on the day are giving it and dermots sucking them off for how good the decision is. The league is corrupt. Have to say I know Everton, Burnley wolves have had some shockers as well. But with Forest it’s genuinely been every game since November apart from one where these things have happened. And that is a bit of a joke. Seems like they’re out for the owner tbh. Granted we give soft goals away every game and the money hasn’t been spent well. But if your having game changing decisions every game very blatantly go against you I can understand why the club is saying g corruption. Also a technical point at the city ground there’s not enough cameras for the offsides. And no cameras on the Clough stand side for checking handballs or penalty claims on that side. Good luck to Everton lad, club should be in the prem. And by history an Irish team so I hope we’re both staying up.

[@SenorKristobbalVLog]

@@felixfernando2751 if similar ones were given, they shouldn't have been

[@James94752]

I think I speak for a lot of fans here saying we are fed up of sky sports, Dermot Gallagher, and the sky sports pundits all defending the blatant incompetent refereeing this season! PGMOL is a disgrace!

[@Andy-p2u8s]

Quit watching it then

[@stefanfernandez7680]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Andy-p2u8s is that one of Neville, Carragher or Dermot?

[@Andy-p2u8s]

@@stefanfernandez7680 no it's not 🤣 the refereeing has been poor this season I agree but what I find more off a disgrace is that forest missed two great chances in wood and Gibbs white also the defending was a disgrace for the two Everton goals, my point is players and officials make mistakes all the time , you just have to get on with it and move on, their is no conspiracy or corruption going on, wrong decisions has been going on all season for alot of teams, if Gibbs white and wood put their chances away and got a result at Everton nobody would be talking about the bad decision made,disgrace is a strong word.

[@stefanfernandez7680]

@@Andy-p2u8s but you said to someone to stop watching if they weren’t happy. Like people aren’t allowed to have an opinion? If people don’t speak up no chance of any change. I would prefer for the incompetence and inconsistencies in officiating being fixed rather than defended by the media. Don’t give them the excuse mistakes happen all the time, they shouldn’t - you wouldn’t accept that in any other job. There does need to be accountability

[@Andy-p2u8s]

@@stefanfernandez7680 yes people should stop watching if they aren't happy with other people's opinions or they get that frustrated, my son watch the game on Sunday and because the referee didn't make the right decision he swore and called the referee so I've grounded him, it's unacceptable swearing or the calling the referee because off a bad decision like footballers they are human and mistakes will always happen, what var and the officials need to do is try and learn from these mistakes and move forward, but abusing and calling officials is unacceptable when you playing or watching the gsme

[@robertblais5016]

You should rename this show, "Why we agree with the referee's mistake".

[@MrBocco1]

1:55 You can't "shift" the rules half way through a season, that's the point... changing how a penalty can be treated from game to game or month to month is exactly the issue. When the goalposts are constantly moving there is no consistency therefore no equality. PGMOL need investigating, its gone on too long and they've demonstrated their complete inadequacy too many times as of late. Dermot is searching for reasons to justify the ref decisions, he's not impartial in the slightest. Completely biased.

[@iancoughlan5]

Yep. I was going to comment something similar. I personally like a higher threshold for a foul/penalty, but changing the rules with 6 weeks left in the season is not on.

[@FelixGallardo1946]

@@iancoughlan5I don’t think the rules have changed, I think thats just Dermot trying to justify a reason as to why they weren’t given. Would bet my house on similar incidents happening in the next couple of weeks and they’ll be given. No doubt in my mind

[@amosabwabati9862]

Spot on!

[@makei89]

I couldn't agree more

[@iancoughlan5]

@@FelixGallardo1946 Yeah, you're right there.

[@MobeastCave]

After Nottingham Forest made that statement, there’s no way anyone from the Premier League or PGMOL will admit to any of those penalties. But we all know the truth, even Dermot knows those are penalties

[@luckysamurai]

And he said the third was

[@mp14446]

Dermot has got football knowledge in his hair

[@unknown1859]

Zero

[@jameshansing5396]

@@unknown1859yea that was the joke 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@YourDad-h8u]

I can't tell you no more he's another one that can't talk will be fired

[@unknown1859]

​@jameshansing5396 yea I got the joke.

[@Mister.Curious]

😂😂

[@snillchills9032]

6:52 - 6:56 you can actually see him thinking here "maybe I've kind of gotten away with defending the first two...but am I getting paid enough to try and defend the 3rd?"

[@Maj1794]

10 minutes of dermot protecting his referee mates 😮

[@VaeVictis96]

Didn't he just say the 3rd one should've been given? Quit ya crying

[@nmz3450]

Everytime I hear the phrase clear and obvious, I want to lose it

[@Codge5]

@@VaeVictis96 There We Are Then...

[@chrispalmer7893]

@@VaeVictis96 No, he didn't quite say that. He said it could have been. But he kept saying that even if Atwell had been sent to the screen he still might not have given it. I think what people here are detecting is that Dermot approaches these segments with a mindset of trying as hard as he can to justify the referee's decision, and the contortions he often has to perform get there render it a pointless exercise. Can't remember the last one of these where I - or juding by the comments, most other people - came away with an improved understanding of the situations covered.

[@superTed3]

The third one is biggest disgrace of all..should been red card too!!!

[@MarshallZelder]

Why the hell are sky sports using still images rather than footage

[@benjamincorbett]

Licensing. On the tv they show the whole clip, not on KZbin.

[@Mac_Kymera]

95% of neutral fans are with and stand alongside Nottingham Forest 👊🏻

[@darrenporter1850]

95% think all the decisions are 50/50. Prob one pen out of the 3.

[@nathanoconnor3044]

I'm an Everton fan and even I agree that all 3 are penalties. VAR in the prem is a shambles, no consistency, always making excuses. It's favoured us this week massively (not complaining) but next week it could go against us

[@U_Too]

I think Betting Companies are behind this and they were bet on Everton.

[@LukePingu]

The only truly debatable one is the handball and proximity saves Young in that case. Those pens have been given but glad it wasn't given with the distance away

[@ashwilliams4959]

Yep and even more with Nottingham in general after what their council did 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@anxiousmindmusic]

VAR is the perfect way to fix matches

[@buggyman95]

What is the point of a feature where an apparent expert is just going to ignore what he's seeing and blindly agree with the body he once belonged to 😂

[@MatthewMcRowan]

this is part of being "expert" these days, you are being paid by big corporations to shill for them

[@Youafool500]

@thusspakemike1204He said the first one was not a pen, forget the 3rd one, Young got a habit of doing that, watch on Wednesday if he gets in that situation again, he is clumsy

[@stephenkay3048]

Michael oliver top tier y Taylor Webb who else citeeeeee couppet 😎😎😎e

[@DanTheMan-yx9vw]

Almost like watching the BBC

[@davidatkinson-Music-and-More]

That first incident confirms that Dermot Gallagher isn't worth listening to. Joke level of judgement.

[@Bleech606]

Anyone who thinks that ridiculous dive is worthy of penalty needs their head looking at.

[@omarshatila7940]

@@Bleech606Go watch another sport. Football is clearly not for you.

[@samkhan5661]

Exactly.."Referee has the best view"..yet,there is an Everton player blocking his view 😂

[@BradleyWynne]

Agreed! The first two were definitely not penalty worthy, for the first incident Young makes minimal contact with the Forest lad and he went down far too easily, for the second incident Young's arms were in a natural position as he was running and as he attempted to block the cross, he can't have his arms behind his back, have some sense people! Now the final incident was a stonewall penalty, Young went through the back of him, it was a definite foul! Forest's statement was ridiculous, Atwell is a professional, they shouldn't suggest he was biased and two of he decisions were correct and Atwell wasn't the on field referee!

[@Justin-yt8zv]

​@@BradleyWynnewhilst I get your opinion that the first was not enough for a pen....by current standards of penalties we see given week in week out.... that's a stone wall pen. If you want to start a discussion on penalties being too soft that's fine but that tackle in the box from young would be a pen 98% of the time by standards now and anywhere else it's a free kick.

[@impossiblemovies323]

"Not all contact is a foul". Tell that to Casemiro after the Wolves game. The inconsistancy is a joke!!

[@3dge7]

The young handball is way worse than the Wan bisaka handball in the cup. Wan bisaka was moving his hand towards his body. Referring in England is a joke

[@pusb_87english63]

Give it a rest both were pens then Coventry were cheated out of the game

[@dylanblack8714]

@@pusb_87english63when does he say wan bisaka’s handball wasn’t a pen

[@AyanfeOlodumare]

Wait till you see refereeing in La Liga 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DanTheMan-yx9vw]

​@@pusb_87english63yet Grealish's wasn't 🤷

[@sahithkarna7845]

@pusb_87english63 how were they cheated out of the game??

[@DTM4581]

They put a Luton supporter in the VAR box to troll Forest’s owner appointing Clattenburg.

[@ratio2007]

im a Derby fan and i wish the worst on Forest but theres no denying that all three are clear penalties!

[@gamatoutsikos]

That sums it up

[@keithc9461]

Good for you 😂

[@chasfleming]

As a Derby fan absolutely agree with you.

[@ratio2007]

@@keithc9461 not good for them though

[@justmatt7931]

3 stonewall blatant pens. The handball one, it stops the ball going to Chris Wood and therefore denies a goalscoring opportunity- penalty kick

[@mi-di2jy]

Never

[@johnburns4017]

*Nonsense.*

[@simonb1996]

Defending the ref, instead of giving a true professional opinion.

[@TabsT-vy5jy]

Host: Dermot good morning Dermot: the ref got it right Host: ok well lets spend an hour twaddling on about the decisions.

[@juvwon]

Slowly and Surely, the evidence for the bias of referees and the complicity of the PGMOL is being shown for what is it.

[@LukeD-Always]

Normally I would agree that refs tend to lean towards big clubs, but I’m baffled by refereeing the last few years, there isn’t a club 8n the league that can’t put together a compilation of shambolic decisions. The whole system is broke and clearly there is a culture among th PGMOL officials to back their mates

[@Deadmansworld14]

​@@LukeD-Alwayscity can't they only had one delicious gone wrong

[@juvwon]

@@LukeD-Always 💯

[@ledzepaldo]

Shouldn't VAR just check if there's a foul and not if the referee has made a mistake? it causes so much grey areas if you are checking for a mistake

[@theduck6078]

Absolute corruption 😂, we just can't trust you lot anymore, need a complete overhaul on the refereeing authorities

[@Steve-wn8us]

no consistency is the main issue. If that same incident (first one) was at City with Foden taken down it would have been given 99/100. the Handball was even worse, arm is out and we have seen them given all season. Not a Forest fan but they were robbed!

[@U_Too]

Protecting Corruption Protecting Corruption Protecting Corruption Protecting Corruption Protecting Corruption

[@davidhanson1849]

Dermot says the officials did everything right and this takes corruption out of the question 🤔🤔 b💩💩💩💩💩💩 it's about time officials got same punishment as forest will get

[@jamza4life]

problem here is people at the top not taking accountability and responsibility, we will continue to have this kind of incompetence this ex ref should not be allowed to review

[@EbrahimLPatel]

These three just have a pub discussion and don't even question the main issue - why the hell did VAR not step in for any of the three penalties?!

[@makei89]

Especially the third one as the referee showed the signs that defender did play the ball, which he didn't? What a nonsense

[@PROgaming-fm6yu]

Need to stop using the phrase “clear and obvious!” And change it to protect my mates!

[@AngadSodhi]

I feel like they did discuss why VAR did not intervene very well. Probably the only thing right about this 10 minute convo. IMO the real question should be how can they improve the process so it's not so person dependent

[@DRIVER-SEBVET]

Cause it's a Luton fan 😂😂😂😂

[@garethmccartan3636]

It's called corruption

[@DeadZeppelin822]

The fact that they only show specific still shots of the fouls and not the full video clips says a lot

[@connorpiercy199]

They really just did a 10 minute segment doing mental gymnastics on why they weren't penalities. Bad contact in the penalty box, Pen. If AG against westham was a pen this was. How that handball isn't a pen is a joke, saying that "its just how fullbacks move" is a joke. Third one he literally dragged him down in the boxes not even trying to go for the ball. Joke, skysports getting that PGMOL money. Shameful

[@sopronunciareglignocchi7255]

You mean mental gymnastics.

[@kevdaag2523]

But I think the panel cast at least for voted for there being a penalty. Maybe you didn't stay till the end

[@connorpiercy199]

@@kevdaag2523 Yeah I was writing while watching and at the end I heard them give a maybe even tho its definitely a yes, so they get a half mark for that. still a 0.5/10

[@rickylovesyou]

The best and most neutral method of analysing this is on the referee online forums, the amatuer and professional refs there will rate the refs on there performance, needless to say this ref didnt do all to well. 😂

[@NoirFan84]

Coventry got a penalty against United for exactly the same incident as Forest & Chelsea didn't get one for this weekend. The issue is the fact the other two were not given by the referee on the pitch but the Coventry one was & VAR almost never overturn the ref's decision unless it's so blatantly clear there's zero debate of it being a penalty. They need to change that because we've seen so many inconsistencies as a result, it's silly. Either all these are given as penalties or none of them are, simple as.

[@Nunyabusiness40]

Every other game has different rules. Insane what City and the Pgmol have done to the integrity of the league

[@amosabwabati9862]

Yup, I did mention the United incident & how it was given against United.

[@ashwilliams4959]

It's all about the final outcome. If forest win the game, the relegation battle becomes less interesting. For Chelsea, it was vs varchester city don't really need to say much more and for Coventry, you can't have a championship team making the final the same week we're cutting games. But yeah it's just inconsistent and not corrupt at all. All these decisions work for 1 thing.. the most profitable outcomes

[@libby4608]

@@ashwilliams4959according to you Cityphobes we’re a small club, yet we somehow have enough sway to make decisions go our way? Make it make sense please and pick a side.

[@danyalahmed8144]

​@@libby4608 small club, rich owners there u go that's your answer

[@oliver.s2165]

What a tremendous waste of time & money creating this segment. Scrap it .

[@jpsports041]

Why is demot still working at Sky.

[@Ben-rz1hx]

In the last 3-4 weeks, can’t change the rules mid season. What is this bald guy talking about

[@phizocyril3489]

Any of the 3 could have been a penalty. Stop defending nonsense!!!

[@jameshansing5396]

“Could have been” could…. Quite crucial

[@phizocyril3489]

@@jameshansing5396 yea “ could” if we are being honest with ourselves and it was any of the top teams it happened to. Surely 1 of them would have been given.

[@joeroberts7298]

@@phizocyril3489 swings and roundabouts, like everton havent been denied obvious penalties in the last few seasons.

[@TheGiantKillers]

I don't follow Forest but hearing from Huddersfield fans that they owe their Premier League existence to benefiting from two dodgy penalty calls in the play-offs. Moral of the story, you win some, you lose some.

[@TomTom-oh9up]

@@joeroberts7298because that justifies more wrong calls 🙄🙄 you people are disgraceful, ruin the sport.

[@johnblacksmith9505]

The one consistent things all season are THE REFS AND VAR ARE A JOKE and have proved this every game week ALL SEASON!

[@davidmaughan4331]

so whats the difference from that hand ball and man utd pen against bournemouth last week as players arm down his side

[@pleasantville4529]

Nothing at all, thats the problem. Its the inconsistency that is creating the problem.

[@breakingaustin]

Coventry got a penalty against Wan Bissaka yesterday for a literal carbon copy of the Young handball.. this is the most blatant disregard for consistency I have seen to date.. I get that it's 2 different referees and 2 different VAR teams, but there has to be a ruleset they stick to.. otherwise this is gonna keep happening. And don't ask Dermot anymore, I would put my house on him backing his mates everytime. He only didn't on the last one because not even City's lawyers could defend that. And the fact that even Dermot couldn't agree witht the ref shows just how badly they got it wrong. This needs fixing and fixing now.

[@hubertcraig442]

Is dermot looking at it objectively or just there to defend referees bad decision

[@hity7026]

These must be the worst excuses ive ever witnessed

[@kevinduggan8956]

Ashley Young too old and too slow for the premier league hence 3 penalty offences

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

So Ashley Young comes through the back of the guy and clearly makes enough contact to take him out in the area and somehow Dermot Gallagher doesn't think that is a penalty? Wow 🤦‍♂️

[@frankonah8055]

Did you even watch the video? Dermot clearly said the last one's a penalty

[@Koen030NL]

@@frankonah8055 OP was talking about the first one.

[@giorgiob8464]

@@frankonah8055 He meant the first one. That's a pen as well.

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

@@frankonah8055 yes I watched the video but I think the question is more a case of "Did you even read my comment" as I quite clearly mention the first one where Ashley Young comes through with the tackle from behind...the other two comments quite correctly have already pointed this out and they had no problem in reading and understanding what I said so to quote the legendary film Usual Suspects "it was your mistake..not mine" 😉😂

[@richihead10]

A near exact penalty given against wan bissaka on the same day and yet he says Ashley young would be harshly treated if they gave it, I can’t keep up

[@joelnetope5826]

All those are penalties, omg

[@foxy1067]

So Kalvin Philips gets a penalty called against him for kick through a player he didnt even see until too late, yet these penalties not called? VAR ridiculious!!!

[@finalfrontier001]

same thing with PhilFoden nk one was complaining about that.

[@kb4903]

If this was man city, every one would have been a penalty.

[@neilfitzsimmons1800]

Absolutely...VAR is owned by Sheikh Mansour.

[@happyaslarry5839]

Not against em though😂

[@Deadmansworld14]

​@@happyaslarry5839😂

[@finalfrontier001]

​@@neilfitzsimmons1800How come City never got 3 penalties against Chelsea in 1:1.

[@nuudelz3711]

@@finalfrontier001how come graelish didn’t get one but wan bissaka did. Same occurrence same field same box same game scenario

[@FrashVlogs]

Has the ex ref ever disagreed with the refs decisions... have bit of dignity mate. All 3 of those as of todays rules are pens

[@lewishague123]

This bald guy doesn’t have a clue

[@pusb_87english63]

I didn’t call you boldy boldy

[@deadby2moro]

Oh, I assure you he has a clue. He knows what he needs to do to line his pockets.

[@jackreacher8858]

@@deadby2moro YUP

[@TheAlexZorba]

The bald dude is the epitome of a corporate stooge.

[@waynewal971]

Disgracefull leaning towards referees, totally wrong on the payroll!

[@gamingst8835]

this section would benefit from actually showing the similar decision in previous games. So we don't feel like we're all going insane. WE'VE ALL SEEN these exact same decisions given, let dermot tell us how's it's not a pen

[@gsdrums47]

Rising ticket prices in a country with a cost of living crisis to go and watch a game live where you don't even know what the rules of the game are anymore, and you are unsure whether or not to celebrate a goal. Welcome to the beautiful game in 2024.

[@thee0ryx939]

Refs in the prem: 2+2=76 🙃

[@Tderesse]

I thought it was 22

[@perrylindsay6682]

no its 5 because they always get it wrong

[@kasarabian3274]

Handball rule is a complete farce. You are deciding games on accidental handball. Go back to deliberate handball.

[@Irisishunter]

I am not questioning their integrity I am denying it's existence

[@nitheshkumar3018]

The fact that so many of these decisions are subjective are baffling to me..... 😅😅

[@M33AAX]

00:54 the hosts face says it all 😂😂😂

[@NoFrictionZone]

It was worth going back! 😂😂😂

[@tm2204]

Problem is not what is or isn't defined as a penalty... Its that the same incindents are not treated the same consistently. Week by week, game by game the decisions are different and not consistent and that's the big issue here.

[@markh-thai]

what a joker this guy is… not enough… nonsense Dermot.

[@droidgeist]

Absurd justifications. 1) Changing thresholds during the course of a season?? This is the definition of inconsistent refereeing, and allows them to make it up as they go along. 2) The reluctance to overturn the on-field decision is a crazy consideration to begin with. They should always be looking for the right decision, regardless of what the on-field decision was.

[@jc-16.]

Deemot giving all irish people a bad name with his constant lying.

[@mr-triathlon]

Utter rubbish TV, Dermot said light contact is not a penalty and that the trend we've seen. Wan Bassaka never touched the Liverpool player and apprantly a certain pen...he's an utter disgrace and knows nothing about football

[@cemawi]

Shame on all of you for supporting this. Clear penalties

[@flashgordon3350]

Not at all. All 3 were actually subjective and therefore not clear. Ref was right on all 3.

[@cicstommy]

Regarding Gallagher's explanation of the Young - Reyna incident, surely increasing the tolerance threshold (for physical contact inside the box) at any point during the season results in an unfair advantage towards teams that have benefited from the lower threshold earlier in the season as they were more likely to receive a penalty for such challenges.

[@lukesaunders388]

Lol van dijk got sent off for a similar foul than that first one.

[@Nunyabusiness40]

And it was a straight red card with no apology afterwards, so therefore pgmol think this is stonewall pen and a red card.. unless you aren’t in a title race with city apparently

[@bobsocks7575]

@@Nunyabusiness40Oh my days, someone’s a little obsessed with Man City 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@snowman6995]

@@bobsocks7575shhh

[@simonlewis720]

@@bobsocks7575hes right though isn’t he

[@bobsocks7575]

@@simonlewis720 Nope

[@nardu]

"The threshold has changed in the last few weeks" How can that be an explanation? It just implies double standards

[@HealthyHorizons-h9p]

V dijk got a red card for that at Newcastle

[@thomasfarrelly778]

I’m an Everton fan and the 1st & 3rd are stone wall penalties. The 2nd is never a pen, but since they changed the rules from deliberate handball, then that gets given most weeks, especially for the “top 6”. There’s no consistency and referees are 100% biased. We’ve been on the receiving end of some shocking decisions so good on forest for calling it out.

[@kyleeasty1422]

As a mutual fan first one is a penalty , second one would be given if it’s a top6 team so to me it’s a penalty and third one is 100% a penalty , watched it live and it’s a blatant foul , if it was outside the box it’s a penalty so it’s a penalty simple

[@marketplace5061]

all 3 are penalties for me

[@D_Dubbz]

The foul on Reyna, Crystal Palace got a similar penalty at home to Liverpool. VAR were happy to intervene then. Such a lack of consistency

[@andronovm]

Very fair discussion on those 3 episodes. I had similar view on those > Episode 1 and 2 - no penalty. But Episode 3 - clear penalty and I have NO IDEA how the ref anf then VAR could not see that and did not give that penalty to NF. Awful decision and I understand frustration of NF club and manager.

[@tyler328]

Problem is that them pens have been given..and I bet they'll get given in the next few weeks.. the media reaction to this is mind blowing

[@davidrice6224]

I think the real concern is that a feather touch on Reyna's foot has caused him such incredible pain and caused him to hurl himself to the ground. Thoughts and prayers to Reyna - hope he recovers eventually.

[@JasonBebopp343]

Imagine asking a former criminal about his criminal mates. Thats criminal

[@abdulkadirkabar792]

😂

[@Foyzul06]

That's how 90 percent of the world works these days

[@marcryan7800]

But they’ve given those ones all year long and now suddenly they’re not pens

[@tmvincent90]

Sorry but if ur crossing the ball and it hits the fullbacks arm / hand and stopping it from going into the box then that’s hand ball 100% no questions , it’s crazy that they don’t think that’s hand ball

[@adam.677]

They have brainwashed the nation to think handball is not handball. Its just an accident. His hand was in a natural position so it doesn't count. What a load of fake crap

[@PorthLlwyd]

Go and read the rule book

[@adam.677]

@@PorthLlwyd yeah, just change the rules and then that makes it OK 👍 are you for real or what?

[@PorthLlwyd]

@@adam.677 the original post said any striking of the arm that stops the ball going into the box is "hand ball 100% no questions". The current rules say otherwise. So yes, I am "for real".

[@adam.677]

@@PorthLlwyd they change the rules every year guy, sometimes in the middle of the season. So then some pathetic idiot like you can go "REaD the rULeS... its in thE ruLe bOOk" you are the perfect example of a brainwashed fool. Well done👍

[@403elle]

So if VAR are never going to overrule a ref why is it there ?

[@politicalscientist8880]

If there's a higher threshold for contact recently they should ANNOUNCE IT

[@telski33]

The question is would the ref have given it if VAR wasn't in play or are they letting it go and letting VAR work it out, which is a massive change from where we used to be and if that's the case we need to take away the decision making away from the ref completely if they haven't got confidence in their own judgement

[@Random__is__resistance]

Wow look at these puppets coming together to go against the fans trying to control the narrative there a digrace

[@JamesHussain82]

You sound extremely dim.

[@MatthewMcRowan]

@@JamesHussain82 he stated truth, after fans backlash they need to shill even harder

[@JamesHussain82]

@@MatthewMcRowan no he didn't. Two of the three "puppets" said 2 of the 3 were pens. And the other "puppet" said 1 was and the others weren't. The handball isn't a nailed on penalty.

[@TomTom-oh9up]

@@JamesHussain82you are dense 😂

[@markodoherty2939]

Nonsense like this is what keeps dermot Gallagher making a living out of the game

[@antonybrent6232]

What a disgrace

[@waynepilgrim9476]

You can't begin to change what a penalty is towards the end of the season....its either a pen or its not.....and throughout the season they all have been.

[@BollaBiff]

Two penalties not given, Everton should be deducted 10 points, and they should be given to Man City. Long live PGMOL, sponsored by sportswashers world wide.

[@Deadmansworld14]

Give varchester city treble part 2

[@finalfrontier001]

No such thing as sportswashing, made up liberal term that has no value or meaning.

[@JimSmith-jb5yf]

If that had been any of the top 5 there would have been 3 penalties given ! Forest have had so many dubious decisions against them it this season. Well done Forest I am with you.

[@FiremanSimon]

If AWB v Coventry is a Pen this is ABSOLUTELY a pen.

[@jasonsmith7737]

Could not agree more , thank you !

[@terencewheatley9589]

Derrrrrrrrmot on the show sticking up for is pgmol mates

[@steveabram7950]

So half way through the season, you change the rules?? Joke of an organization!

[@claudioricci1]

Dermott literally says that what constitutes a foul has changed through the season - but not through rule change, through ‘feeling’? And then refs wonder why fans say they are inconsistent - because they move the goalposts! And you can guarantee the ‘feeling’ for a penalty is less when certain teams commit them…

[@niohnewold399]

All three are penalties by the letter of the law. Sure the rules are stupid, but you cannot punish teams for the stupidity of the law. In fact, the handball is a penalty more than many handball penalties that are given. You can’t just apply the law sometimes and don’t apply it other times because the law is stupid.

[@plipogamez3173]

This discussion demonstrates how difficult it is to apply the new rules consistently. Let us rewind the rules to twenty years ago when we had tough competitive football, with robust rules that were easy to apply and understand.

[@hyywe240]

These hand balls are crazy. Its a penalty for wan bissaka, not a pentalty against thomas in the same game. Not a penalty for grealish against Chelsea. This is all in a couple of days

[@creepingbrain]

The grealish one was terrible. 10 yards between grealish and the ball, and it wasn't exactly hammered at him. Why that one wasn't given is unfathomable.

[@eddie_1878]

First one: tap on his foot, didn’t cause him to go down, he felt contact then threw himself down. Second one: could go either way Third one: great tackle.

[@Mac_Kymera]

Webb won’t have the guts or stomach to sanction Taylor or Atwell for yesterday’s appalling officiating. Taylor is one of his best men and one of the most senior international referees.

[@johny2509]

Dermot Gallagher with the perfect analysis. 1. Not a penalty 2. 50/50 descision 3. A penalty. Keeping everyone happy 😂😂