Slap Tongue pt.1 BEATBoX SAX Tutorials -

[@ziruini5071]

It took me 3 days of constant practice, but I finally got it =D Thanks for the tutorial!

[@hotkeys2230]

you my find are the king off all sax players. All hail the king!

[@hotkeys2230]

Friend

[@_Matt8]

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[@sequoyahcisneros8719]

Not really....

[@matty6659]

How DARE YOU NOT RECOGNIZE THE REAL KING OF SAXOPHONES..... LEO P!!!!!!!!!

[@garymelhaff9327]

Follow up to my comment from 3 years ago....once again couple months ago tried it but kept mouthpiece at my desk with soft legere on it (1.5) and tried it multiple times a day. After about a week suddenly I started getting suction! I kept at it couple of weeks until suction and slap was very strong. Then did same daily attempts at popping air while releasing suction (super hard at first!). Eventually that started working too. Here I am couple months out and now figuring out how to work it into my solos. Thanks Derek! This was pain in the butt to nail down but persistence paid off.

[@sfxjura8834]

Im at the point that I can make suction but have hard time putting air in, have to put some time in it also…

[@garymelhaff9327]

@@sfxjura8834​​⁠ya that seemed almost like just as hard as getting the suction going. But you’re half way there! I know it now after only few more months where it’s just part of my toolset. Keep working on it!

[@ryanramsey3739]

Best tutorial for slap tonguing on youtube. Very helpful video for younger students beginning extended techniques. Thank you.

[@MaxNoMillion]

YES!! I just got a decent sounding slap tongue out! I'm so excited!

[@beatboxsax]

+Max “MaxNoMillion” Steen Woohoo! Congrats! Not an easy thing to do at all!

[@Blijdenstein]

Great instruction video Derek, Thanks from an 78 year old saxophone player!

[@jevonchandler9856]

Lol I was actually getting sound during the vid and its the first time I tried! Thanks dude!

[@meralo0124]

I don’t believe it.... I am literally in my car on my way back from seeing a disney on ice performance and I had heard the term “slap tongue” and was curious. I happen to have a bari reed on me and gave it a try. I got the suction on the second try and got it with my mouth closed on the next try!!!! This was actually so helpful. Thank you so much

[@cripo-chrispossmann804]

This seems to be the best Sap Tongue Tutorial on the Web! Very helpfull.

[@gracereynolds7503]

I'm actually really surprised with myself, I had the suction down right away and actually managed to get a pretty descent sound out in a day (not consistently and controlled of course but I'm still happy) Great tutorial thank you, you SAVED my life for an upcoming audition!

[@danielfw1655]

I watched your video about an hour ago and have been practicing since then, thanks to you I can now slap tongue!! THANK YOU!!

[@NelsonGarciasax]

Derek, I will start working on this technique this week and hopefully I will get it in a few years :). Awesome videos man!!! Very educational . Thanks.

[@beatboxsax]

Nelson Garcia Sounds good, Nelson! And seriously, it took me a LONG time to get down, so don't get discouraged. Good luck!

[@holdendaugherty1760]

Skipped ahead and saw u licking ur reed I freaked out

[@wynnchang]

sax requires breaking a mental barrier

[@SaxStation]

Thanks for sharing this Derek. Starting to work on this. If anyone else has gotten to the point where they can get with just the reed, Derek puts it on the mouthpiece at 4:51 I think that's where I'm going to be coming back to in the video for a while.

[@changename7739]

did the suction part first try, great tutorial.

[@tutorialesnaynay593]

OMG I LOVE THE OPENING

[@joshuabell2273]

I watched this and worked on it every so often without thinking about it, then, out of nowhere, I found out I could to it.

[@PoorWax]

Hello Darek. I must say, I've never seen anyone play saxophone as you do. It's amazing what sounds you can produce on the thing! I am either talented or lucky. I saw this video, thought "Hey, let's see if I can do that." And I could. It's the first thing I have been able to get on a first time. I'm not really sure if I do it correctly (I haven't tried since don't want to wake up the entire house), but I feel like I do as you describe, and there is sure some kind of suction on the reed. I will look up for more tutorials on new things with sax. Thanks for a great tutorial!

[@beatboxsax]

+Daniel Green Toft Sorry for the delay here. I only now just read this post. But thanks for the compliments. And that's CRAZY if you were able to do this upon your first try! In fact, I'm jealous! It took me MONTHS! Anyways, congrats and good luck with some of the other techniques!

[@kharris4866]

Just want to say I love your tutorial videos and playing! It really is awesome that you've been able to make use the saxophone in this very creative way, and i can't wait to start practicing these techniques on my own sax!

[@beatboxsax]

I'm so glad you're enjoying these videos! And best of luck working on these. They're definitely unconventional, and definitely involve a different way of playing. Take care!

[@cahdnelr2931]

Omg! This is sooooo cool! It didn’t take much time at all to create suction! Tip, make a suction with the entire mouthpiece, not just the reed, the jaw has a lot to do with it too!

[@usain1114]

I've found its really easy for me to use the suction with the reed but can not push air through with the actual slapping action. I've known how to do it for a long time and still can not push air with it.

[@Cookie-fe7mn]

Literally the same, just started tho, I can easily just stuck the reed in my mouth and get suction and the reed on a mouthpiece wasn't super hard, but the blowing was difficult

[@GulioMahn]

Thanks man, watched quite some video's about this, but your tips do the trick. Finally got some suction :D

[@romanvalenciano5928]

I was lucky enough to get all of this the first try! Great video and explanation!

[@thomascohen9924]

This is a really good and useful lesson. Thanks!

[@Bluemayje]

This technique is still eluding me, I can make a really FORCEFUL pop sound now, but I can't achieve a clear resonant tone. The biggest issue is transitioning from achieving suction to forming a proper embouchure. Actually applying an embouchure forces you to almost relearn how to get suction because you have to create it closer to the tip of your tongue. I find that in trying to actually do it, my jaw and tongue start hurting like crazy, and 9 times out of 10 I overshoot the amount of air I push out and create a loud, wonky squawk rather than that nice hollow tone. Consistency seems to be a big challenge as well. Hitting it once out of a dozen times isn't all that encouraging.

[@beatboxsax]

+jamey robinson As hard as this technique is, it really sounds like you're VERY close! Other than lots of repetition (which will be very tiring at first, so do it in short bursts), a key thing is applying a bit more pressure from your lower lip (AKA biting harder). I demonstrate this around the 7:00 minute in the above video. Check it out again and see if that helps. Keep up the good work!!!

[@Bluemayje]

+Beatbox Sax Practice definitely makes perfect, the more I do it, the easier it gets. Anyone trying to learn this technique and getting frustrated, I URGE you to keep it up until you can start getting the tone you want. With any technique, you have to wade through a lot of muck until you can master it.

[@beatboxsax]

jamey robinson Amen!!!

[@coin777]

Nice playing Linus tech tips!

[@Ferdinanrey]

Gracias maestro por compartir tan importantes conceptos modernos del saxofón.

[@estevaocrisostomo9671]

Incrível Derek,aprendi em alguns minutos de tentativas com sua explicação,muito Obrigado.

[@camtron0]

THis is wicked!! thanks for demonstrating these.

[@barisax96]

nice tutorial. your explanation is very similar to the one given by the Army Field band sax video, though you have more depth on how to practice it. great work I look forward to trying this

[@MrBoybergs]

A1 communicator = excellent teacher

[@schiemetipper]

tx for sharing! i got stucked at the point of 7:00 in my progress with this technique, that 'biting' tip is really helpful!

[@CBrown519]

Great tutorial. I find that I can do this, I think, without a reed and/or mouthpiece first, with my tongue at the roof at my mouth kind of like saying a very hard and forceful "T." Can't wait to try this out on my tenor.

[@LUXO2]

Awesome! I need to practice it,thank for the tutorial!

[@roanmccormick4036]

Great lesson ..incredible dedication :)

[@salomaoxavier4259]

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[@cristiancrosssaxo]

hola derek !!!!!!! que bueno seria que los tutoriales estuvieran traducidos al español !!!!

[@ethan.tangee]

Thanks! This helped me get it first try

[@Valok]

please do "dueling banjos" with this technique of yours. if thats any possible. i would be very ... very curious how this sounds like

[@67lobe]

excellent explanation , thanks a lot!

[@femihocquart430]

I enjoy his style of playing 👌👌👌👌👌 it’s the best 🎷🎷🎷

[@Jasper_Saxophone]

Do u think fiber reeds are better? do do the beatbox technique? Great Job Nice movie and great songs.

[@einfachdeutschmitjanine]

I'm totally impressed and would like to learn it myself. Could you recommend any reed?

[@SaxyFlute]

I've started following you Bro from the time that I've watched "Hoping for the Best" that's so cool! 👍🎷❤ I'm just new on sax and trying to learn more and your videos are on my lists. Thanks for sharing your talent Bro 🎷🎼😊👍

[@isaiahd9947]

Tried this video about a year and a half ago, couldn't slap tongue at all. Now I'm on tenor and was able to figure it out in 13 minutes! I feel so bad that you had to spend that long getting it. I would've lost my mind

[@r1chardse017]

FIRST TRYYYYY! THX DEREK

[@cristiancrosssaxo]

derek hello !!!!!!! it would be good that the tutorials were translated into Spanish !!!!

[@serdaraltac8452]

I will definitely try your tips. Thank you. By the way, doesn't it sound like a string instrument (somehow reminded me of oud) ?? :)

[@bretfine1855]

yes i thought the same thing

[@calebgillett6091]

I almost got it i just can't do it and blow at the same time but you'd be a great band teacher

[@alainphilippe7485]

Hi Derek, Thanks so much for the video and I must say i'm impressed by your last album !! You're so brilliant :-) I'm practicing the slap tongue on my (so small) soprano mouthpiece ... So now I can do a quite strong slap noise, but only doing an air depression in my closed mouth. I'm afraid I will never be able to release air at the same time doing that ... I'll keep practicing and watching the video again and again... (Please excuse my english:-)

[@charliemiller5627]

+Beatbox Sax I have figured out how to make the slapping sound using my tongue, but to do so, I generally have to put my mouth over almost the entire mouthpiece; It works better if I use almost my whole tongue. It is much harder to do it with less of my tongue, which I need to do in order to improve my embouchure with the different tones. Do you have any tips to make it a little easier? I just so happen to have the same mouthpiece you do, if that helps at all.

[@dirtdiver1141]

Subscribed and ordering a sax. Ty sir

[@EduanSteenkamp]

Hi Derek. Really interesting videos. I have a question about this technique. Does the type of mouthpiece and reeds one uses play a big role achieving this effect? I am still using a Jupiter student saxophone with an otto link hard rubber mouthpiece and 2 1/2 Java reeds. Btw I love the PMauriat Saxophones. My previous teacher Karen Devroop also plays one. They are just really expensive. Loving the videos. Regards from South Africa, Cape Town.

[@beatboxsax]

Eduan Steenkamp Eduan, the mouthpiece and reeds shouldn't really affect this too much. Yes, can reeds may break more frequently (especially when practicing), which is a big reason I use Legere synthetic reeds. But slap tonguing is definitely possible on any set up. It just takes a LONG time to get down. Good luck!

[@nicolasthomas1165]

i use your arrangements

[@sangerman7694]

i think it does

[@Ann-ej4zg]

Greatest ! TK you so ...... 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@radiomono-lodia9826]

I'm still trying to develope the technique, it seems as if the suction on the reed is caused by some motion (at least that's what i noticed during the only sucessful try). Am I suposed to blow air and, at the same time, stop its flow with the tongue technique?

[@beatboxsax]

+Rádio Mono-Lodía ♫ You have to puff air through the horn right when you release the reed from your tongue. However, it doesn't take much air to hear the slap (actually none). The little bit of air just helps to amplify the slap sound.

[@radiomono-lodia9826]

Thanks!

[@brother1299]

+Beatbox Sax HI best beatboxer on earth :) i love learning your techniques my favorites being the pop and multiphonic, but with this tonguing style i find it rather hard to create enough suction on the reed when my bottom lip is pressed against the mouthpiece. The original reed suction was cake and creating the same suction was almost as easy on the mouthpiece and neck, i just can't seem to do it with my embouchure.

[@daromur3178]

thanks a lot!!! great tutorials :)

[@salomaoxavier4259]

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[@SchwuppsLP]

Just tried the suction-thingy and it worked first time like so good, I could hardly get the reed off my tongue :D

[@salomaoxavier4259]

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[@jessewong1355]

7 years late, and this seems as impossible as polyphonic singing... but I learned that so I can learn this... EZ

[@noproblem.4657]

Would this also work on Bass Clarinet?

[@noproblem.4657]

Ok thanks!

[@lockey5534]

Throbbing Mara no because it will only work with all clarinets and Saxophones

[@MrLonelie]

Great video I realized I've been able to do it but never actually put it to work

[@salomaoxavier4259]

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[@hanti83]

Thank you!

[@cameronwiseman8598]

Would this be the same for the bass and contrabass clarinets?

[@kakds9488]

this is really cool I wish I could do this on my clarinet. can u do these things on a clarinet?

[@Matthew-ll3fp]

KAK DS yes but y?

[@paulschafer6910]

So I am starting to get you concepts but just curious if you have a method of choosing a song to do this with and I am guessing this is where you started......I would love to incorporate this in soloing any thoughts on going about this

[@hextm7299]

I got a ad of u on ur own video I was so confused I was like has the video started early got me fucked up

[@mclagger8444]

Thanks for sharing your wisdom with the rest of us!! Definitely grabbing your album when it's released. I just watched this video today and understand the suction component, but am having a difficult time figuring out how to force air through the sax while releasing the reed. Any suggestions?

[@b1martin]

Love the videos, and hearing you play/beatbox...so cool. I've been practicing this technique (slap tongue), and I seem to be able to get a very loud pop noise, but it really is devoid of a specific tone. When I try and push more air, I get the tone, but then it just sounds like I am honking out the note, rather than that nice subtle pop + tone. Any tips?

[@beatboxsax]

Bob, it sounds like you're really close to getting this! I'd suggest experimenting with more lower lip pressure, biting harder and maybe a bit further forward than normal. Yet although biting harder helps with getting that pure slap tone, it also makes it go sharper, so watch for that. It's all about balance. If you'd like some one-on-one help, I'm available for Skype lessons on my website: derekbrownsax.com. Good luck!

[@b1martin]

Thanks Derek, I will definitely give it a try! I will look up your website, I really could use some lessons.

[@sultown4343]

Just for general playing, what material of reed do you recommend? Metal, plastic, wood? Others?

[@beatboxsax]

+Wisepka For general playing most cane or synthetic reeds will do, though I highly recommend Legere (synthetic reeds), especially the Signature series. Yes, they're much more expensive, but they last at least 4 times as long, you don't have to wet them, and each one is totally consistent with the next. For my beatbox stuff, they're a must!

[@lil5013]

Great vids. Do you think it matters much which mouthpiece? I'm using a metal Link, but is the JJ-DV offering any help with it's unusual window shape?

[@garymelhaff9327]

Dang - I can't even get suction going first try. Pulled out old Legere for my tenor hoping that would help Do you feel like an air bubble forming between reed and tongue? What kind of sensation do you feel when it starts working?

[@Cookie-fe7mn]

I know this is late, but just curl your tongue and suck, you'll know when you get a suction cuz it makes a pop noise and you can really feel it on the middle of you tongue

[@mitogamez9349]

Aye im one of those people. I actually started to slap tongue on accident and i kept on doing it to the point my teacher told me to try and stop. But yeh i can do it

[@luciocarosaxplayer]

Hi Derek... man iused to know how to slap with mouth open, but i couldn't mate it fast enough to make it useful, now im practicing your way and i found that sometimes the lower lip is involved in the suction, is it right? i also noticed that pitch changed some how... please advice! and thanks for making this info available.... you rock!

[@washitonlopes213]

Mano... Simplesmente incrível!!!!

[@jeffreykasbohm7685]

Yo, beatbox -- would you say you're pulling your tongue or the reed straight off ? or are you sliding your tongue at all in one direction?:

[@GyourgeTube]

I really need to get the hang of this for my next recital! But I can't get the idea of blowing whilst sucking at the same time?? Hellllllppppp

[@Bluemayje]

I can get the suction on the reed alone well enough around the middle of my tongue, but the whole thing starts going awry when I add the mouthpiece. I can't seem to get even a remotely good tone without swallowing the whole mouthpiece. The absolute hardest part to master is getting a good suction closer to the end of your tongue. Pushing air out is a challenge as well, because my inclination is to try and get a "pop" through sucking in, but that really only creates a false pop that doesn't produce any real tones.

[@KeithMarloWatchAndPlayOnline]

+Beatbox Sax Hey Derrick when I work this technique in the low octaves, the notes actually sound a whole step higher than the note I'm playing. For instance I slap tongue a low B flat and it sounds like C. Is this normal or is there another way? When I play the note using tongue ramming, the proper notes sounds. Thanks for your help.

[@AGEEWJAZZ]

Hi! Thanks for the video! (I practiced these techniques long before the appearance of your videos). I get to do these techniques, but only when I use the tip of tongue (because of this I almost always crack the reed), but actually the tip of the tongue should rest against the teeth, the position of the tongue should be traditional, doesn't it? Need your help. Sincerely, Ilya.

[@beatboxsax]

+Il_ALex Sorry for the delay here. I only just now saw your comment/question. Yes, reeds will crack more with this technique (although using synthetic reeds like the Legere reeds I use help BIG TIME!). I don't think the tip of the tongue should rest against the teeth (as in anchor tonguing, which I do a lot, by the way), but will join the rest of the tongue on the reed to get the suction. You don't want to just flick the reed down with the tip, but rather to get suction and pull it down. That being said, after a TON of practice, it takes surprisingly little tongue to do this. It's tough, but stick with it. Good luck!

[@thiagomiguel2992]

olá gostei muito ! você é muito bom. tem algum exercício para praticar o slap?

[@hotkeys2230]

Got it in 30 secs!

[@iamtomoldfield]

Same Thehumanwissarmyknife!

[@charliepear1470]

OMG same

[@Matthew-ll3fp]

This comment section is full of LIERS

[@jackmacfarlane875]

Actually this technique really depends on your style of playing

[@slappinjaxon8624]

+beatbox sax I can only slap it without ombrechure and alot of tongue how can I fix this? please reply

[@Jose-cp1ov]

I used to play bari and it was easy because the mouthpiece is bigger and now I play tenor and it’s harder than I thought

[@svenolavlye5052]

I newly found this channel. Does anyone know if this is possible on my clarinet.

[@brother1299]

when I try to slap tongue its just a loud pop hardly resembling the note but I can get the suction fine how can I fix it?

[@Momusi]

Hey Is it normal if my tongue ends up feeling numb?

[@emmak9328]

Hi. So I’ve had this really weird problem. I’m in my second year of playing, and I’m slap tonguing unintentionally. Is there any way that I could stop myself from doing that? I was never taught to slap tongue, but my notes are coming out that way.

[@rockomiro]

Hi derek my name is miroslav im live in uk you are best teacher im learned slab tongue in 3 days am playing sax for 18 month everything im learned from youtube.god bless you when im listing you im can't sleep you pushing to learn. Can i be good player im 48 is not to late? Thank you very much derek

[@clydegomes7976]

Is slap tounging possible on Ebonite mouthpiece ?

[@DefectivePieceofChalk]

Hey Lloyd. How's Harry doing?

[@hibeldyjigblef7706]

How do I do the skype lessons

[@x32debug]

Does it work w alto

[@codloadouts4512]

Bruh this took me a minute -_-

[@gabrieldemarchisaxerudito6440]

Hey Derek.. I have watched this video a thousand times... and I'm thinking my tongue has some problem, some defect... because I follow all the steps and there's not positive results... I play saxophone since I was 13...now I'm 36 and don't get do the slap tongue

[@ryanrichter1076]

if you can get the suction farther back on your tongue try placing the tip of your tongue under your bottom lip. Then the back of your tongue is in the right spot to make the suction. It worked for me. I don't know how this affects speed or anything but it's worth a try

[@gabrieldemarchisaxerudito6440]

@@ryanrichter1076 thanks my friend... I'll try to take it in practice🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🎷🎷🎷

[@LauraPinna1412]

Thank you!!!!

[@TheJasonBoi]

First day to actually start this. How long would you say should i practice the suction per day? i Sorta had the suction a few times when im lucky but, it is still pretty challenging

[@beatboxsax]

It's really up to you, but I'd suggest a few minutes, multiple times each day. When you do start to get the suction, you will get to a point where your tongue might get sore (it can eventually even bleed!). This is normal though, as it's kind of like guitarists building up callouses on their fingers. But that's why it's best to spread out your practicing of this. Good luck!

[@TheJasonBoi]

Beatbox Sax Okay, thank you!

[@infamousvictorian5807]

I can get the suction but I don't know exactly how I should blow my air to get the actual slap tongue sound out.

[@joelharris3252]

i agree same

[@GiannisVakaloudis]

hey derek, do you think that the difficulty depends on the reed or not at all..?

[@beatboxsax]

Using a softer reed definitely helps a bit, but it's still takes a LONG time to master, regardless the reed strength. It's just tough to get that suction from your tongue alone.

[@coltinyounger7912]

I can make the sound on my bari sax pretty well I just can't make it loud, this is also my first day trying

[@ezekielcapetillo8066]

I always do that I just never thought about blowing

[@86larsonrd]

OK, I've been exploring a few of the tutorials here. Like many of the other people, here, I can get the suction, but not sure what to do about getting the air. When I apply suction, I am getting the tip of the reed, and the tip of the mouthpiece together, and the suction is coming from my throat, up the channel formed in the center of the tongue. I am not so much getting the reed to pop as I am getting my tongue to bounce off the reed and the mouth piece together. Every now and the, I can hear it resonating in the mouth piece, it seems especially so when I can almost feel my tongue between the reed and the mouthpiece. If I am getting the suction from my throat, I can't turn it around and blow a puff of air. Am I on the right track, or is this a false positive? One thing I have found is that I need to try a lot of different tongue position before I get any resonance.

[@86larsonrd]

and a few days ago I made some progress. A couple things helped. One, Used a plastic covered reed. Two, used more tongue....it really is the middle of the tongue. Using my finger to find the suction point was essential. To answer my own question above, no, the suction should not be coming from the throat. It is all tongue.

[@86larsonrd]

And...more progress. Tonight I got the first real POP sound with some air,...and gagged until I almost lost my dinner. I'm still using a huge amount of tongue, and alot of air to get the pop. Other techniques that helped: when first trying to get a suction on the reed, putting the reed against the lower lip really helped. Switching to a Leger plastic made a big difference on Tenor, although I also was using a plastic coated on Also and that works nicely too. To move from suction to pop was easier on the smaller reed. Messing around with tongue position was probably the most important part of making progress. The position is much further forward, or, put another way, the suction spot is much further back on the tongue than I first thought. When trying to get the pop, I was at first trying to keep the top sealed, but it feels like that is less important that keeping the bottom sealed and overblowing the reed.

[@ZandvlietGuitarCompany]

I did this and I could get it to work in just a day so I am afraid I’m doing something terrible wrong, and I don’t know if I am getting the right going on.

[@ZandvlietGuitarCompany]

Update turned out I was doing tong rams, but now I got it :)