Slater Designs "Flat Earth VS Dark Twinn" Duke Aipa Board Comparison

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Noel's Height 5'9" and Weight 165 lbs
Dark Twinn: 5'6" x 19 x 2 3/8 (25.6L)
Flat Earth: 5'6" x 19 3/8 x 2 7/16 (27.1L)
Eddie Lester Height 6'0" and Weight 195 lbs
Dark Twinn: Board DIMS: 5'9" x 19 5/8 x 2 11/16 (31.9L)
Flat Earth: 5'8" x19 5/8 x 2 5/8 (30.4L)
Ezekiel Lau Height 6'2" and Weight 190 lbs
Board DIMS: 5'9" x 19 1/2 x 2 5/8 (30.2L)
In this episode Duke Aipa, Eddie Lester and I talk about the differences between the Dark Twinn and Flat Earth.

[@dkilla01]

The flat earth has a ton of performance packed in the design that’s why it’s recommended to surf it in more liters than your average to help Tone down the performance via extra foam this board will absolutely step your game up as a twin because it’s a whole lot looser in general which forces you to do 2 things 1: put your foot behind the twins versus stepping all the way back on the tail pad like you would on a traditional thruster which stiffens your surf stance and the board encourages you to surf off your rail rather than from your fins if you do your research you will find that the best surfers with the best rail game have mastered the art of surfing of the rails rather than of your fins this helps with finding the fast spots of the wave and assists in your vertical game as well

[@stevehills5753]

I agree, it does help with all the things you said ! The bummer is I hear it discontinued so after my current board not sure where I’ll go next 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@E-Rod]

I was in Oahu recently surfing Rockpiles and Ala Moana Bowls on a smaller day when an incredibly friendly surfer paddled up to me and started chatting me up. He shared some waves with me and I quickly realized it was Akila! Having had the privilege and honor to meet Akila on a mellow summer afternoon like that, and seeing these videos with Duke, the Aipa family really is full of truly incredible individuals! Good hearted and true to their craft. Loved seeing those quick clips of Akila on this latest video….I’ve been looking at a dual core Dark Twinn for a handful of months now…being in SoCal…but now I can’t stop reading about the Flat Earth…I’m torn! But I might have to stick to my original gut and go with the Twinn…for those mushy SoCal days! Tough decision to make but a good one to have. Thanks as always for the exceptional content Noel 🤙🏻

[@truckandplane]

It would be awesome if Eddie was on more shows in the future. It’s cool to see what the bigger guys are riding. I’m pretty much the same height and weight as him so would definitely help me decide what size board I need to get. I’m sure there are lots of other bigger guys in the same boat!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I would like to have Eddie and other surfers in every episode.

[@metalbear702]

Same here dude. I'm 106 kg so often need to size up boards that are normally marketed as going shorter and wider etc

[@BS-dg8cd]

Excellent break down and as close to a test drive of these models as you can give the viewer. I am also the same size as Eddie yet rip slightly less and hearing both of your takes on same boards/same waves is very helpful. Thank you Noel for this edition of surf school: don't judge a book by its cover.

[@blakebell9015]

So sick bringing on someone different size than you! Helpful for the bigger guys

[@foxgd9117]

Love both designs

[@Jason-zt9ht]

Thank you for having Duke on to clear that up. I have a flat earth and it is my favorite good wave board. I will definitely be looking at the dark twin a couple inches shorter for more of a average surf board.

[@stevehills5753]

What is your favorite fin set up on the flat earth

[@bricecarpentier5817]

Am I the only one that obeys Noel when he says “sit back, get your favorite drink, enjoy the show”? :)

[@tristanholsgrove7619]

Nope your not the only one! 🍻

[@josesnowsneves5132]

Hi Salas, First of All hope you are recovering well !! and ...getting into shape for the 2022 winter ;) Would be great to see a comparation between the RocketWide and the Bobby Quad :) would it make sense ????

[@sunnygoold9449]

Mate that massive turn you did was sick

[@scottc3165]

I used to have so much fun on my single fin stinger from Ben way way back in the day.

[@jaredcooper7670]

Another GREAT episode!

[@davidrobinson8319]

We all know boards ride differently but can still be awesome boards. Really nice to see you go over two similar boards, but highlighting differences. Did you try the Dark Twinn just as a twin? no trailer? Would like to hear more about how it works just as a twin. (I love how youtube fact checked 'Flat Earth' hahaha)

[@zach1978]

my local said the flat earth is discontinued at Firewire, not sure how true that is

[@Valzie85]

So rad Noel 🎉

[@chrisnsum1979]

Hi Noel! So first thanks for all the great info on boards and fins! Im 6.4” 190lbs im 43 iive bin surfing since 14 im on my second ghost 6.2” 32.7liters its a great board first i rode it with jj fins large it was a bit stiff in the turns then i tried jj med that was nice and loose but lacked drive now i got pyzel large my favorite so far (all 3 fin setups) im super interested in your fins and how you think they would go in my ghost anyway thanks again! Ps I’ve watched all your videos 🤘🏾

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

My fins will keep your board feeling loose with excellent drive. I say get my Neutral template and if your board has 5 fin boxes then get my 5 fins set.

[@chrisnsum1979]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel im gonna grab a set!

[@Ronny439]

Hey Noel, bobby quad in the mix for a review?

[@sumatran]

No other surf board reviewer comes close.

[@shannonyoung3465]

YEW!!! 💪🔥🙌

[@catinthehat8412]

would you do Chris Borst with Tylor Knox review 🤙

[@brendenbrenden5458]

I have the flat earth and friend was also going to get one, he might get the dark twin now

[@MG-fi7dw]

you are my favorite surfer

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Cheers

[@mcs1_386]

What’s your go to high performance/everyday surfboard shortboard for California? Pyzelian 2, shadow, phantom, sharpeye inferno 72 or maybe even these two in the video?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I like the Driver 2.0, Fever, I72 for HPSB’s in Cali. For Daily’s… Mini Ghost Squash, RW Squash, NB2. Fun Daily boards… Rusty Twin Fin, Storms Twin Turbo, Fishbeard.

[@mcs1_386]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 than you for replying. Why not the pyzalien 2 ? I’ve been surfing a 5’3” phantom and want a little more high performance board. But I don’t like much rocker do to surfing in California. Now I’m deciding from pyzalien 2, driver 2.0, sharp eye inferno 72(if not sold out always), or maybe something else you just mentioned

[@ThePokersurfer]

Had an Akila "Modern Twin" and it went mental and had what I call a constant motor pushing the tail ....... can you do a Firewire Slater Designs Tomo "Revo" review?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Yes… Revo review coming soon

[@stevehills5753]

I was wondering about the modern twin…. Looks similar to the flat earth. We’re you running it as a straight twin ?

[@ThePokersurfer]

@@stevehills5753 I tried that but it was too loose you have to have that trailer to stabilize it

[@powercarve125]

Hey Noel I was wondering what fcs 1 fin you think is best for small waves?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

What type of board? Thruster or Quad?

[@powercarve125]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 it’s a thruster 6’1 90s board but I have crappy plastic fins in it now so I wanted to get some more flex ones that would work good in smaller waves even though I know this board is for head high but I don’t know what fcs 1 fins would be good for that

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@powercarve125 KS2.1 or Mayhem fins

[@jimbob1222]

holy sh¡t! Eddie was f**ing ripping!!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Absolutely

[@fulltimekook9458]

He threw so much water in every turn that the water level in Kelly's Pool dropped down for a moment

[@stone34]

Good stuff... which one for Mexico Right Point Breaks... from Shoulder High to about 1.5 x over head? Would you take one of these or the Channel Island Happy Everyday? Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Happy Everyday

[@stone34]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 ... thanks. Ok for the death match for it all... same place, Mexico 🇲🇽 points, same size, shoulder high to 1.5 x Overhead... CI Happy Everyday or Lost Rad Ripper (I'm thinking Lightspeed or Blacksheep)

[@julzylil]

Do you have any pyzel high line or radius review coming up bro?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

No sorry…. Those two models have a lot of rocker and don’t go that good in So Cal waves.

[@julzylil]

I thought lowers has enough curve in the wave to accommodate

[@dkilla01]

A buddy of mine told me that he was riding the flat earth in double punchy overhead surf is this accurate? I mean it does have the medium rocker and knifey high performance nose and the wide point in the back? Does this sound doable?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

It can handle overhead waves for sure

[@MG-fi7dw]

would really like to meet you one-day

[@ccrider8277]

what does "true to size" mean in a surfboard?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The Dark Twinn thickness says 2 3/8 thick and even though his rails have a lower apex it’s a fuller rail so the volume feels true. The Flat Earth’s rails have a lower apex too but Akila tappers them more to make the board more sensitive and I went up in volume to tone the sensitivity down a little. That’s why I said you can size up 1 stock board size on the Flat Earth.

[@samsonaina494]

What volume is Eddie riding

[@philloist]

Its in the description

[@familyjay5636]

Eddie rippppppppppppping

[@dkilla01]

Flat earth is staying in my quiver it’s one of the sickest boards I’ve ever owned especially as a twin

[@stevehills5753]

What wave range do you ride it in?

[@dkilla01]

@@stevehills5753 in twins I ride it up to about head high with the extra liter than my average because the design of the board is pretty aggressive if the wave is big and slow I’ll tend to throw in a keel but if it’s overhead and punchy then I’ll throw in the stabilizer to help with stability although I have rode it in twins on accident in overhead punchy surf but I felt a lot better with the Aipa twins as they are stiffer and help to stabilize the board with the performance glass

[@stevehills5753]

@@dkilla01 what’s the smallest surf you take it out in

[@mocean365]

Absolutely love my flat earth as well especially with the NVS Taylor Knox twin plus trailer. When it’s small I use a keel or upright twin NOELS Hp keel or ci keel or like the JS upright. Even played with a keel plus nubster still fun!

[@brandiarakaki4071]

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