“There are only two tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.” - Oscar Wilde
@jamespower51652 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Bernard Shaw?
@martinlavic10822 жыл бұрын
@@jamespower5165 he heard it on simpsons
@michaelwright88962 жыл бұрын
@@jamespower5165 The quote by Shaw is not quite that it's: “There are two tragedies in life. One is to lose your heart's desire. The other is to gain it.”
@ducatusmediolanensismappin82922 жыл бұрын
@@jamespower5165 well, it's actually a Wilde's quote. I think he read it in "The picture of Dorian Gray", as I did. Bernard Shaw's quote is quite different.
@TheOmerCookie2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's wilde
@King_of_carrot_flowers9 жыл бұрын
These pieces should be better named. He criticized the true desirability of happiness, but said nothing about being interesting.
@Medytacjusz7 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but you can treat the title as adding to the lecture not just a summary. Reading the title again might be a key to prompt new interpretations of what has been said.
@Proud2btongan1097 жыл бұрын
+Bartosz Szafarz If so, that is called manipulation of content. The media does it all the time. "See it the way I see it, you fucking idiot"
@Medytacjusz7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, sometimes it is. You see it all the time in articles on "science": "scientists prove that X kills cancer", when they have neither proven, nor does it kill it completely, nor is it cancer in general (perhaps specific type under specific conditions). But here? I don't know. I think there's fine line, especially when it comes to more creative content (opinions, interpretations, art) as opposed to just facts. Look at titles of books, for example. This video is not really reporting on Zizek, this video is Zizek. It's not like the title contradicts what is being said. Plus we shouldn't treat consumers as idiots who just read the title. They will get the difference if they watch the whole thing and they should know, that it might not be Zizek himself who wrote the title (but he might have been involved - we don't know!).
@juanmoralesvideo7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it is a typo. May be it should be *be INTERESTED on something*, I guess.
@laurenmodotti30536 жыл бұрын
i agree, this is a recurring problem with žižek’s interviews. the title vulgarizes what he said which causes him to be brushed off by his critics and deters people from taking him seriously or even watching the interview at all!
@fsands694 жыл бұрын
his accent makes him sound even wiser. Sounds like the wise man in the mountain you find when you're lvl 90
@namanshah83544 жыл бұрын
Lmao I get this 101 and I've started implementing it already
@patrikburda3 жыл бұрын
@ThyPeasantSlayer the fuck.. no :D
@patrikburda3 жыл бұрын
@ThyPeasantSlayer no its not.. Obviously you know shiat about Czechia so I dont really get why you even argue with me. Edit: I'm from Czechia so that should settle it...
@Capytain3 жыл бұрын
@ThyPeasantSlayer don’t spread wrong information, he is from Slovenia
@mariag53063 жыл бұрын
@ThyPeasantSlayer he is Slovenian. My dad used to speak with the same accent.
@samuelmontenegroserniotti71463 жыл бұрын
Land owner: Your rent is late. Me, as a man of culture: *You dont really want what you think you desire.*
@valberm3 жыл бұрын
Besides, if me paying you would make you happy: why be happy if you can be interesting?
@ButterBeanCW3 жыл бұрын
If the tenet goes away, so does the house. You just need the tenet as an object of desire. ;)
@aperture03 жыл бұрын
Bully Maguire: "You'll get the rent when you fix this damn door!"
@SuryaSen0013 жыл бұрын
@@aperture0 beat me to it
@aperture03 жыл бұрын
@@SuryaSen001 lol
@JoeMcKenzie8888 жыл бұрын
In German, passion is called "Leidenschaft", the ability to endure "Leid" (suffering).
@KristianKoci8 жыл бұрын
Amazing (y)
@briandonovan15848 жыл бұрын
Interesting ... I have suffered long and profoundly. My endurance of that suffering and surviving that suffering has made me the passionate, decent, kind and charitable man that I am today.
@JJDvorshak8 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@KrisVesel8 жыл бұрын
In English passion used to mean "suffering", such as "The Passion of Christ". It's not about da Geezus getting it on.
@briandonovan15848 жыл бұрын
Kris Vesely Jeeezus was a mentally deranged homeless guy.
@ChrisKogos3 жыл бұрын
*Sniffs philosophically*
@Blud69663 жыл бұрын
😢 (philosophically)
@ChrisKogos3 жыл бұрын
@@Blud6966 that's what I said yes
@kshitiztiwari82273 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@xHannibal3 жыл бұрын
A very accurate statement.
@tripney67453 жыл бұрын
He says nothing about being interesting bcoz if happiness is a cliche and everyone tries to avoid discomfort and you know this and you find the sweet gray area that Grey area is f*ckin interesting I'm tell you
@ulasgursoy28385 жыл бұрын
“Ultimately, it is the desire, not the desired, that we love.” “Whoever reaches his ideal transcends it eo ipso.” F. Nietzsche
@MrVarunparmar5 жыл бұрын
Nietzsche was the most inaccurate mind scientist out there.Every single theory of his is falsified.Quoting him is like quoting Churchill as a hero
@krainex5 жыл бұрын
@@MrVarunparmar how so
@MrVarunparmar5 жыл бұрын
@@krainex maybe just Google..Freud falsified or something..
@krainex5 жыл бұрын
@@MrVarunparmar i just did and google didnt show anything conrete. Elaborete
@milkbath5 жыл бұрын
Kradisasht and who the fuck are you?
@Killerean2 жыл бұрын
We're not really pursuing happiness, we are pursuing the pursuit of happiness.
@mattvoica46172 жыл бұрын
this is why will smith with his son are still one of my favourite influences. ( relatable )
@_randomyoutubeuser Жыл бұрын
@@mattvoica4617 "that's how we do it"
@co-bruh1423 Жыл бұрын
Life is the journey, not the destination
@aesshole876 Жыл бұрын
@@mattvoica4617 yeah same my dad loves to slap people too
@ryandainsberg8997 Жыл бұрын
They call this the “Utopia Paradox”
@schroeder6669 жыл бұрын
People misunderstand the point of this video. Slavoj is not laying out an argument on what happiness is, or saying happiness is bad. He is saying that attempting to establish a lucid, conscious category of substantive happiness is faulty and delusional because you are really chasing the strength of your desire, and the sustainability of that desire as it lingers on some horizon, rather than happiness itself.
@swat22camden8 жыл бұрын
Well said. For example, a guy with a bike will say if I only had a car I would be happy. Then he gets a car. If I only had a nice house now. Then he gets a nice house. If only I had a few more friends. If only I had more likes. If only I had a girlfriend. If only I had [insert anything here]. I used to live that way but once you have that you're like "now what?" Then coming up with another excuse like "if I only had" a better version of whatever. That's not happiness.
@hanawana5 жыл бұрын
Schroeder my god, you’re eloquent! Beautifully articulated.
@MichelleHell5 жыл бұрын
i became happier when i stopped trying to be happy.
@carlrdbro12305 жыл бұрын
@@swat22camden "If only I had awareness that attempting to achieve happiness by actively searching for it wouldn't work, I could be happy" It's a little bit of a paradox isn't it?
@everlastingideas86255 жыл бұрын
It could be said like this: happiness is not a goal and should never be seen as such, it s a line that gets further away the more we chase it. It s better to give up in it as a goal, find happiness in the little things of everyday while accepting the suffering that we have to ensure in this life to be and achieve. That s how I see it.
@tylerelliott45169 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic combination of accents and speech impediments. He sounds incredible.
@dejureclaims82149 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Elliott Wowee! That your girlfriend? Ahem... Bravo.
@tylerelliott45169 жыл бұрын
+Alex Stein Yep.
@mikeandvickyinshanghai8 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Elliott The great thing is, Zizek would probably be laughing with that statement as well and that's why I love him.
@leninalopez29128 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Elliott I keep saying... is the only thing with a worst english than an Indian or Australian and, yet, perfectly intelligible!
@tylerelliott45168 жыл бұрын
+Dan iel I'm not sure if English if your first language, so I'll forgive you. 'Fantastic' and 'incredible' are not insults. I was being genuine.
@michaelgonzalez24154 жыл бұрын
"He who has a why for his existence can bear almost any how." Friedrich Nietzsche
@remhawk734 жыл бұрын
Not syphilis though
@thegingerbreadman51493 жыл бұрын
“He who has a why to live can bear almost any how.” A great quote for when I was in a very dark place.
@ClarkPotter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the quote. It helped me today. I'm writing it down and posting it.
@thewatermelon38313 жыл бұрын
I saw this phrase first in 'Man's Search for Meaning' by Viktor Frankl. Didn't know it was Nietzsche who coined it!
@elpatas88793 жыл бұрын
A good way to justify being in hell.
@opedromagico4 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: get a mistress. Thanks Slavj!
@MeMyself-rt3on3 жыл бұрын
In your imagination
@Elias_Cepeda3 жыл бұрын
Or get married. Be unhappy to have an excuse for leaving your wife. Then keep being unhappy pretending you want the opposite.
@Ioanides0013 жыл бұрын
No, get a wife AND a mistress
@brucetenet61403 жыл бұрын
sai daqui BR
@floriancazacu45043 жыл бұрын
@@Ioanides001 a mistress implies you have a wife. Otherwise it's just your girlfriend...
@patodiblasi8 жыл бұрын
We - don't - really - want - to get - what... we...... think - that we want.
@patodiblasi8 жыл бұрын
?
@briandonovan15848 жыл бұрын
Ummm ... I think you mean "raping" not "rapping."
@limitless16928 жыл бұрын
+patodiblasi so he is thinking for me so i am a stupid moron person who doesn't know nothing and i have , MUST fallow him ! THAT IS A DANGEROUS PATH MY FRIEND .
@ИванФедорович-с2ч7 жыл бұрын
It's so amazing for entry level english practicing
@patricksputnick50945 жыл бұрын
How do you know that ? I want what I want and You and Zizek want what you want. Or did I miss something.
@sreeharip89015 жыл бұрын
This topic is so interesting and he even forgot about touching his nose.
@matheu5mato5175 жыл бұрын
But he did
@vamseekrishnathinnuru34255 жыл бұрын
0:12 , 1:02 and 1:35
@Baraa.K.Mohammad3 жыл бұрын
@@vamseekrishnathinnuru3425 not nearly enough.... I'm not interested anymore!!!
@mariag53063 жыл бұрын
Are you getting a little picky? lol
@auerbacher693 ай бұрын
he forgor
@SkyeFische11 жыл бұрын
Happiness erases boredom and boredom is the root of learning and exploration. People don't want to be bored, but boredom motivates us to create, investigate and discover.
@pander2211 жыл бұрын
What if you're happiest when you're creating or discovering and the suffering/difficulty makes it that much more fulfilling. I sense a fallacy in this video...
@SkyeFische11 жыл бұрын
pander22 The problem with that is, and I know many people that suffer from this, if you are happiest most in the struggle of trying to answer a problem/create something/etc. -- then your happiness will immediately cease to exist once you realize that your task can be completed, once it is no longer challenging. People like this tend to start many ambitious things, prove they are possible, then never put them to good use/finish them.
@pander2211 жыл бұрын
This may apply to some but not all, therefore it is not a universal truth.
@libertynerd256211 жыл бұрын
What if studying and creating is not boring for one, but instead makes them happy? This pursuit leads to more studying, more creation. It varies from person to person. So, in essence, this video creates a paradox. It condemns people achieving only the state of happiness. However, it seems to urge people to conform towards being only interesting, and not happy. I understand if what I said is vague.
@SkyeFische11 жыл бұрын
Uhm, your comment is exactly what I said. If you are bored, it motivates you to go out and study and create and learn things. If you are not bored, you're no longer motivated to do that. If you're already happy and fine, you'll never get up off your ass and do stuff.
@Eemes10004 жыл бұрын
In the immortal words of Don Draper: what is happiness? It's the moment before you want more happiness.
@sontinos5283 жыл бұрын
or as Adorno said, happiness only exists in our memories...
@ce62362 жыл бұрын
@@sontinos528 do u care or just a comment
@fikus5903 Жыл бұрын
wtf i never expected to see a tf2 comp veteran in a random yt comment section
@Eemes1000 Жыл бұрын
@@fikus5903 lmao
@markofsaltburn Жыл бұрын
He was an alcoholic who had traumatised his daughter by shagging in front of her.
@Nicole-rq8ix8 жыл бұрын
"After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true"-Spock
@kirklandau28265 жыл бұрын
How is "wanting" pleasing? I guess it can be sometimes, if it's like a form of daydreaming or pleasurable anticipation. But many other times "wanting" can be unpleasant, a feeling of being unfulfilled or lacking.
@pedrorodriguez-tirado53294 жыл бұрын
The price of getting what you want is getting what you wanted. Sandman
@sauliusltcool69024 жыл бұрын
@@kirklandau2826 well If you are addicted to something then wanting can be bad, but that's not what she said
@kirklandau28264 жыл бұрын
@@pedrorodriguez-tirado5329 But *why* is that a price to pay? I don't get it. The only scenario in which I could see getting what you want being a bad thing is if you never had it before and the reality turns out to be different from the ideal, or if you were foolishly presuming that getting desire X would fulfill you completely and then it doesn't, especially if its something shallow or materialistic. However if you already had something and know what it's like and want to have it again, you're not going to be disappointed by what you're already familiar with and if what you desire is something deep and fulfilling on a spiritual level then it's not going to leave you feeling empty because there will be a net decrease in emptiness/unfulfillment, thus as long as you temper your expectations and don't expect to be *perfectly/completely* fulfilled then getting what you want is always a good thing and an improvement of your life condition so long as you want the right things and have the right mentality.
@kirklandau28264 жыл бұрын
@@sauliusltcool6902 If you're addicted to something then wanting is bad and having is great. The problem with addiction is only a matter of sustainability. Addictive drugs and their hefty monetary cost and their legal obstacles and their practical challenges and the build up of tolerance over time leading to increasing dosage, decreasing effect/euphoria/novelty, and decreasing satisfaction... are usually not sustainable, for the aforementioned reasons. However, some forms of addiction are in theory sustainable. If I am addicted to a woman who is my soul mate who I want to spend the rest of my life with her then what's wrong with embracing that addiction? Well, to answer my own question partly, the only real problem is that you don't always truly know if the other person can be trusted or if they truly love you as much as you love them. You can't guarantee that they won't just abandon you. In which case you're fucked. Love is even more dangerous that heroin. I'm not joking. I'm not exaggerating. I've experienced both addictions. Heroin put me through a really rough patch in life, but love destroyed my soul and has doomed me to an existence of torment and regret and longing and obsession and unfulfillment and bitterness and despair and literal insanity. It's like withdrawal but imagine that it never goes away. Since getting abandoned by my soul mate I have been in hellish withdrawal for over a year now, and it's not getting any better. Acute heroin withdrawal lasts less than a week with maybe a couple weeks of milder post-acute withdrawal symptoms afterwards. It's been over a year since my soul mate inflicted emotional and spiritual armageddon on me and it's only becoming more torturous over time. I can't live without her and I feel like I'm dying at an accelerated rate. Plus I'm cracking up psychologically, I'm possibly on a gradual route to going insane.
@brunobonisiol10 жыл бұрын
Slavoj Zizek VS Pharrell Williams. The final clash!
@Alexkearney4 жыл бұрын
lol
@amemename3 жыл бұрын
lol what do they have to do with each other
@bulletsizednuke11003 жыл бұрын
@@amemename you know, "Happy"
@SalmanMalik-eo8uo3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha
@sacrificedmind983 жыл бұрын
(Because I'm interesting) Clap along if you feel as you want is not what you desire
@quantumastrologer55993 жыл бұрын
Zizek on a lifelong quest to make everybody miserable. Love this guy so much.
@nicolasmemmolo47853 жыл бұрын
@@RihardNovacan Exactly. It's far easier to sell the idea that one's sole goal is to achieve happiness, and it's far more profitable to do so, also. It's the desire for something what keeps us moving. We may achieve it, enjoy it and, eventually, move on to the next thing. Happiness is a temporary condition, not the goal.
@FreedomOfTħought3 жыл бұрын
@@RihardNovacan Exactly. I think what people fail to comprehend time and time again is how we acclimate to our achieved desires. We as humans adapt so quickly to a change in circumstances, whether that means new material possessions or living under more desirable conditions. Every new positive change becomes the norm after a short while at which point anything less will seem like a serious downgrade.
@ClaytonLivsey2 жыл бұрын
He has been known to say 'the first task of philosophy is to make you realize what deep shit you are in'
@an63502 жыл бұрын
i think the reason we willingly face pain is because we seek happiness that will come from it... like creative ventures might be painful and frustrating and exhausting, but it's because we want to create something that is interesting and will cause some type of happiness/peace.
@adino202 жыл бұрын
I think it’s this state where you feel like you are during something important and difficult that people (atleast me) truly are “happy”. But it doesn’t feel right calling it happiness. It’s like fulfillment. But notice how how you don’t need to “get” anything out of it. So a painter slaving away at his creation will cultivate this sense of fullfillment even if at the last second he accidentally drops a can of paint on the canvas and ruins it. The process is what I think we should be after and not the result.
@an63502 жыл бұрын
@@adino20 i think it has to be a mix of the process and result to be fulfilling. like i run, and it's very difficult for me... it almost feels like i'm running endlessly every time because it's so uncomfortable and the time feels like it's moving so slow. I really do enjoy it in a way though, because after i'm done i rest and feel accomplished and healthy. but if immediately after i ran, the physical action was erased from space (no dopamine, health benefits, soreness, etc), i would feel cheated and miserable. that's just how it works for me at least.
@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide2 жыл бұрын
Its all well and good to speak of "suffering for creating art". The problem: the majority of people suffer to get to a dead-end job, the next day. Not on their way to becoming living gods of fame and wealth.
@rijakhalid90112 жыл бұрын
@Frutadi Thank you for putting this in words. It's an idea I have never been explain to anyone. People think you are after something aka the result, when all you really want is fulfilment. You just want the emptiness to go away. You don't want to "get" anything out of it in the traditional sense at all. The satisfaction is in the process and in the knowledge that you were able to do something that you wanted to try.
@adino202 жыл бұрын
@@rijakhalid9011 It definitely helps make the emptiness go away. It may even be a cure. But I think my way of thinking of it in my last comment might be too general and its actually part physiological. So, when I try to understand a difficult concept, like when I study, between 20 minutes to 1 hour I start to feel a light euphoric feeling. My brain feels well-oiled and like every part of my brain is engaged and like I could study or do anything and find it reallllly interesting. It makes me feel like I'm getting the same benefits someone in the middle of an amazing meditation session is getting. Also, it does not align with having finally understood a difficult thing, it just randomly happens 20 minutes to one hour from doing this. Isn't that weird? So it's THIS difficult and important thing that I'm talking about specifically. Maybe not ALL things that are difficult and important give people this level of pleasure. Maybe I've just uncovered a way to release dopamine into my brain without realizing it. I mean, I also feel good about exercising (which is difficult and important and feels good even in the middle of it and not after I finish it), but that is not fulfilling like this state I can get to when I study.
@Karlwasright11 жыл бұрын
"Happy" is an emotion. Happiness is a misconception.
@WillGaylord5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. However, I think that people mistakenly use the word "happiness" instead of "peace" and fail to realize that having peace in one's life isn't about constantly feeling happy.
@skyinuri88683 жыл бұрын
Baller
@girlatendofrwjishot11 жыл бұрын
In the introductory business course that most colleges offer (foundations of business thought), it's theorized that humans strive for a goal, and then once it is achieved they set the bar higher and strive for a new goal. Our lust for "more" and "better" is never truly satisfied because you're always trying to nudge your way into the social class above the one in which you reside. In layman's terms: the pursuit of happiness is not about finding happiness as an end result of the pursuit, but rather finding happiness through the persuit of happiness itself.
@bergweg11 жыл бұрын
Kinda like (economical) growth for the sake of growth, which is like cancer.
@girlatendofrwjishot11 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I follow. How is that like cancer?
@bergweg11 жыл бұрын
Cancer cells multiply/spread exponentially, similarly like economical growth, i.e. non-linearly, %.
@lynneperkins49411 жыл бұрын
Ahmad's right. It's the process, not the goal. Blame it on our huge brains. If the drive weren't there, we'd still be in the trees in the Transvaal.
@bergweg11 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by process? And to which part of the brain is it linked?
@thefasco44245 жыл бұрын
"When you are in a creative endeavour, that wonderful fever; 'my god I'm onto something' happiness doesn't enter" This is because happiness is already present from the moment the endeavour starts. This view that Zizek has comes about when you see happiness as the goal rather than the process, like Aristotle implied 'Happiness is constant, if you feel happiness arising and subsiding you are not experiencing happiness'.
@pedrosantos61834 жыл бұрын
Purpose is more important than happiness
@joeschmoe11934 жыл бұрын
Happiness is doing something useful. That is called whistling while you work. If you whistle while you work you are doing what you like to do as opposed to drudgery. One doesn't whistle when doing drudgery.
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
The worst of happiness is when something or someone comes to disturb it. Now whatever that thing or someone is, they or it becomes tainted into the mind that was in a happy bliss to be a red flag or a trigger. Happiness is but a chemical reaction within us that feels like dancing without judgement. The moment the dancer senses judgement is the moment the dance becomes tainted with hatred or resentment.
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
People with bipolar disorder have this because in low states of chi, the chemical reactions are very suggestible towards switching between happiness and or anger/sadness.
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
You also see this in older people.
@DougWIngate3 жыл бұрын
"Why be happy when you can be interesting" is the most eastern european statement in history
@marcofabiocarosi29962 жыл бұрын
The pursuit of happiness is exactly that journey that doesn’t get you instantly what you think you want. I believe that aligns to the message of this video.
@edg27266 жыл бұрын
Neurological studies that I'm too wasted to cite right now suggest wanting something is different from liking it. So I think zizek is onto something here.
@adrianmontero46823 жыл бұрын
I know is like 3 years late, but you could send that studies, it sound interesting
@PBAmygdala20213 жыл бұрын
@@adrianmontero4682 I was just thinking that! Maybe he's still too high.
@SDMF203 жыл бұрын
@@PBAmygdala2021 Wasted suggests alcohol not psychoactive drugs.
@oreziopancrazio36853 жыл бұрын
Actually he is completely out of way, he is too cinical to understand such concepts
@sadyoshhours27693 жыл бұрын
@@SDMF20 alcohol (drinking) is ethanol which is definitely a drug
@JoeCorneli7 жыл бұрын
2:00 well spent
@abosnjak Жыл бұрын
"Freedom is not achieved by satisfying desire, but by eliminating it."
@masterofnuggets73425 жыл бұрын
You dont want the thing, you want the émotions associated with it. But émotions are never linear.
@full6330name10 жыл бұрын
I can't belive how little recognition he gets in Slovenia.
@joaotavares0784 жыл бұрын
maybe cause he is happy not interesting hahaha
@draganostojic62973 жыл бұрын
It's his English accent (which he doesn't have when he speaks Slovenian)
@stamatios_sterg993 жыл бұрын
@@draganostojic6297 yes but slovenia is balkan country
@astrolillo2 жыл бұрын
@@stamatios_sterg99 uh oh, you are opening a big can of troubles here, if my experience is correct those guys will kill you if you call them "balkans/slavs/FYS", they will say they are more Italian/Austrians, the funny thing is that those 2 nationalities dont even register them LOL
@stamatios_sterg992 жыл бұрын
@@astrolillo Austria is a big country, a big nation. Slovenia isn't even half of Austria in population. Northern Italy yes they have a lot in common
@wcyee265 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, happiness is a state of living totally, if you start chasing it, u created distance to it urself, u lost that state. It is like when you play music, you're playing it, if you think about music, then you're not playing it. You missed the whole point by only thinking about it.
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
It's Flow
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
Disturb that flow and good luck fixing it.
@beastmasterbg4 жыл бұрын
my feeling is that happiness is waking up for the day and do what you have to and when you finish you do what you want to.
@BlindSwami_3 жыл бұрын
Listening to zizek ramble for me is like reading those great old Nietzsche quotes. You aren’t really sure you fully grasp or believe in what they’re trying to convey but it’s so electric that you’re just completely invested for that short period of time
@spacepimpkevin11842 жыл бұрын
He's got a pretty strange way of saying that basically the desire and the want will be more enjoyable than the thing you desired.
@williammelendez91747 жыл бұрын
He wants to make it sound more confusing than it actually is, by linking happiness to the concepts of safety and confort, or the attendance to a certain craving. You can get to happiness by also finding meaning in your work and vocational path, which also comes with self sacrifice in every step of the way. Maybe it can be a never ending road, but fulfilling throughout.
@gotnoname7051 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes yes yes!
@icykarma212210 жыл бұрын
We don't really desire to be happy or interesting, we desire something interesting which makes us happy. If you find something interesting you are inherently "happy". Happy isn't so much something you feel as much as a state of mind.
@waterkingdavid9 жыл бұрын
A great antidote to "The Secret" and its billion dollar industry.
@Kathikmuthu4 жыл бұрын
♥️♥️♥️ yes indeed
@МарияЛесниченко-б4я3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@rumo5103 жыл бұрын
@@МарияЛесниченко-б4я I think they meant something like, when we fall into ideas that "philosophies" like the Secret push, we are operating on selfish, base desire. The elusion I see in this comment is that there is so much more to explore than simply asking the cosmos for whatever we want. Akin to a spoiled child throwing a fit til satisfied. Imo the secret has bastardized the practice of positive affirmation to make it seem like some solution to everything. It operates purely on self-centeredness, which deprives us of life's true experience, which is everything, good and bad.
@Earthad233 жыл бұрын
Just use the law of attraction …..
@krzysztofbroda53763 жыл бұрын
two working braincells are sufficient antidote for this
@acidz00433 жыл бұрын
happiness is fleeting and momentary… i strive for contentment…😌😌😌
@MariaKhordina10 жыл бұрын
"Protect me from what I want" -Jenny Holzer
@spacepimpkevin11842 жыл бұрын
I truly feel this. Whenever i try to manifest or bring my desire to reality: It often ends up not being worth the effort or it ends up not working out as well as i wanted due to it's unprecedented complexity. Whenever i'm trying to manifest contentment, understanding, awareness, and peace of mind without focusing on desire for joy: Then almost all things can bring some form of joy by some amount.
@SankyEON4 жыл бұрын
The real happiness was the friends we made along the way
@StavrosSkunk Жыл бұрын
The hapiness can be the loving families too.
@basil9633 Жыл бұрын
I would say this is alot easier said then done especially if you are already Intresting or if you don't have crippling economic circumstances leading to depression
@evelindiana7 жыл бұрын
"We don't really want what we think we desire" soo true, sometimes we work hard for something and once we get it we soon realize that it doesn't make us happy. Sometimes we stumble upon something unexpected and that does make us happy. I guess we should always be open to anything and try things out, and not be set on a specific thing that we think will make us happy.
@siberianTiger6394 жыл бұрын
My God, this guy is absolutely spot on. The pursuit of hapiness chains us and imprisones us into doing only the things that make us "happy". You want more. Poeple want do DO somethig. Change something. Create somethibf if you like. Whatever. The pursuit of hapiness only ends up making you miserable and tied down. You only end up trying to break those chains (and feeling guilty for doing it) and you're not avare you created them in your search for happiness. Whoever said it's all about being happy and happiness is the most important this is either an idiot or am very evil man.
@citrusjuicebox Жыл бұрын
I say it's the latter. If someone convinces you that the pursuit of happiness is noble and worthwhile, they can tell you how to do it. And at that point, you begin to lose yourself.
@Wyatt199612124 жыл бұрын
Of all modern thinkers & philosophers, Zizek reminds me of The Greeks (Plato, Aristotle *sniff* and so on). I think it’s his logical & sequential presentation of ideas that seals the deal
@ClaytonLivsey2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you know much about Zizek then lol. You never even tried to understand what Zizek thinks about his forefather, Lacan. Do your like posing on the internet? For people who are just as ill informed as you?
@Wyatt199612122 жыл бұрын
@@ClaytonLivsey nobody cares that much about the semantics but you bruh 😃 I was making a general observation No need to get booty tickled about it lmao 🤣
@abelmbaakanyi10002 жыл бұрын
“Sniff” 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kubermr29 Жыл бұрын
Cool. Back to the past. Nothing new. And no progress.
@Wyatt19961212 Жыл бұрын
@@kubermr29 Humanity is doomed to repeat its own mistakes
@RGMRT3 жыл бұрын
This guy's accent really adds to everything and even though i'm not a big fan, but the passion of this man is enough to make his debate opponents throws in respect.
@MRK1sauce5 жыл бұрын
Hes got the accent of those fish from the Rock Bottom Episode of Spongebob
@te95915 жыл бұрын
I was thinking zoidberg.
@littlepinkcactus4 жыл бұрын
I seriously lost it over that comment mate XD
@RedInferno11210 жыл бұрын
Some could argue that when embarking on an "interesting" task the feelings could be considered happiness themselves. To me, happiness describes someone in good spirits, emotionally high. This surely happens when we do these things. In all fairness, I can't see a good difference between them.
@Reasonalism10 жыл бұрын
Your comment makes a great point. This is one of the things I intended to write here in the massive ego war between Sarin and Leroy (before I felt it would be wasted to do so). What is 'happiness'? How should it be defined, and in what context is it appropriate for it to be used? It appears it's not simply a disagreement in value propositions or even in philosophies, but rather, in the use of linguistic definitions and how they are applied. I for one, can find 'happiness' in the pursuit of a goal, even if it may yield consequences which negatively impact me. The elation of the pursuit itself, or it's eventual destination (whether it's what we desired or believed we desired) could bring about happiness or a sense of satisfaction (which can, depending on the persons preferred definition, be synonymous with happiness). There is no universally understood notion of what happiness is, or where/how it is confined. This is why it's imperative that we first convey our usage and definitions of words when we have exchanges with one and another beforehand, rather than after. Otherwise, it erupts into what you as well as many others see above. Language is really a fascinating thing, but it's also easily conflatable even to the most highly literate speakers. Indeed, this one one of the things the late philosopher Ludwig Wittigenstein alluded to.
@armadilloHD10 жыл бұрын
I think you're dawning on the underlying point that pursuing an immaterial "happiness" is intrinsically futile. Most people use happiness as a buzzword for fulfillment.
@RedInferno11210 жыл бұрын
SkepticusMaximus I would actually argue that we feel in high spirits for the prospect of "nice" things rather than whilst doing them. I'm not sure if others feel this way too, but some great experiences I have, such as vacations, usually make me feel better about them after or just before, when I am on the way there. Perhaps because it's all too much information to acknowledge immediately.
@andromedaiscoming1859 жыл бұрын
SkepticusMaximus hey you mentioned me! thanks for tuning in. i still visit this video alot. yeah it was an ego war, for sure. i agree that RedInferno112 makes a valid point. the definition of happiness is not simple and there are alot of valid points of view.
@guineapig555559 жыл бұрын
RedInferno112 the point is whether you're pursuing those tasks as an end in themselves, or whether you're pursuing them just to be happy or satisfied. Zizek thinks the latter is morally wrong. You should be doing things because they are valuable in themselves, not because they give you happiness. For example, a serial killer kills and hurts other human beings, but that makes him happy. How can you possibly say happiness lies in the ethical domain here?
@MonsieurKonthaar2 жыл бұрын
As a person who has a very negative view of humanity (and myself) because of overthinking the human condition, i find it delightful to listen to this guy. It feels like i can put those thoughts to rest.
@Johnnyappl3seed63Ай бұрын
No just do what makes you feel alive, and realize that happiness is fleeting and satisfaction is a better goal.
@anthonyaurel60016 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary analysis. Maybe he is right. We do not pursue happiness. We pursue the pursuit of happiness.
@dejureclaims82149 жыл бұрын
Slavoj is operating with a very limited definition of "happiness" in this one. It might be better if he specified "hedonism" or "immediate pleasure." If we define happiness as a "desirable state of mind", then being engaged in an intellectual pursuit can be a happy thing, as can enduring suffering with a purpose. I do agree that we're poor arbiters of what will ultimately make us happy, as any glance at a list of cognitive biases will attest.
@emotown19 жыл бұрын
+Alex Stein I didn't get the impression Slajov was referring to hedonism, although it might have sounded like that with his example of 'the mistress', which obviously shouldn't be read into too deeply. In any case, as john doe said, the definition is what is the problem in this sort of discussion. I like your 'desirable state of mind' definition. I think that, paradoxically, those who aren't philosophically preoccupied with their own happiness are probably the happiest of us!
@dejureclaims82149 жыл бұрын
Keith Roberts Ignorance isn't always bliss ;)
@emotown19 жыл бұрын
Yes, those poor fools who don't realize they're unhappy ....tsk, tsk. ;)
@jakob10638 жыл бұрын
+Alex Stein I would say that its very narrow to claim that happiness is anything that makes you keep doing something. That is far from the meaning/usage of the word, and what traditional ethics is built on. I don't mean that happiness is a broader term, just something completely different.
@dejureclaims82148 жыл бұрын
Jakob I didn't define happiness as "something that makes you keep doing something." I would be very keen to do whatever a person holding a gun to my head told me, but I wouldn't be happy about it.
@michaelmcateer11566 жыл бұрын
I agree completely with Zizek on this matter, although I would have liked him to offer some gloss on the ancient Greek concept of eudaimon.
@whosrichpurnell3328 Жыл бұрын
This did actually change the way I think about social interactions and how people perceive you vs how you want people to perceive you
@dmtdreamz7706 Жыл бұрын
Slavoj is not just extreme pleasure. Slavoj is the realization of immortality and the realization that everything is heaven. When you realize that, it's so good, it's infinitely good. It's not just good. It's good to the infinite degree. It's so much goodness that you can't contain it. your body can't hold it. Your entire body shakes and shudders in a cosmic orgasm of bliss. It's perfection. It's total peace. It's absolute love, that's truly Slavoj.
@ERRATICCHEESE210 жыл бұрын
I claim, and let us be serious here, I claim this shirt is very itchy.
@gaspaxxxu10 жыл бұрын
And sexy ;)
@andreme73266 жыл бұрын
and so on, and so forth
@thenderson81355 жыл бұрын
There is some new philosophy worth t-shirts watch?v=KZwd_Gl-aN0&t=161s
@DominickDecocko5 жыл бұрын
he has diabetes so his sweats are full of sugars.
@mikicalic96515 жыл бұрын
and i m pesimist here
@jarlbalgruufthegreater17583 жыл бұрын
"I'm like a dog chasing cars, if I were cought one, I wouldn't know what to do with it" - Joker
@robertbrennan22682 жыл бұрын
"We don't really want what we think we desire..." Splendid and illuminating!
5 жыл бұрын
"Why be happy when you could be ecstatic" - David Pearce
@LoreleiLala11 жыл бұрын
I'd dispute this to some degree. One is happy when life is interesting, even if a level of suffering is involved. Happiness may be perceived as being a smiling idiot but that's not always the case. Pursuit of the interesting, creativity, or challenge may or may not include a feeling of happiness, depending on the situation, the person involved, their take on life, and whether they only accept happiness when they have what they think they want. I would suggest Zizek expands his interpretation of the concept. He does say 'happiness, for me, is a very conformist category', but he, as a philosopher, must surely be aware his limited interpretation is far from an absolute or all encompassing one. He seems to be talking about contentment, which is not happiness. In fact contentment can become boredom if it goes on for too long.
@WhiteCamry11 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Zizek decries happiness but he seems quite happy here, doing what he does.
@forfitlife11 жыл бұрын
The interesting life zizek puts forwards, is the wanting of an interesting life. In comparison to the pursuit for genuine happiness. But there's lots of claims he's making in his philosophy like the fact of hovering desires in proximity so it keeps us climbing, like aristotle's final cause towards a perfective singularity, we're just climbing towards this object. It's odd because then people wouldn't have it, zizek would have to say your letting go of your desire once you have it for the sake of allowing it to not bore you.
@butterbean8610 жыл бұрын
Good point. Also his view on desire is interesting. Many Asian philosophers would agree that obtaining your desire does not make you desireless. In fact it is our 'normal' neurotic state of the mind to want more and more and more. So it never ends.
@NakedSnake0210 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you man. I believe in happiness in a wider sense of the word and that most people live for happiness though they might define it in their own terms.
@NakedSnake0210 жыл бұрын
butterbean86 I think it's the constant journey of happiness followed by the essential phases of contentment and sadness (i categorize sadness as the negative emotions each individual feels through their own paradigm) that makes the lives of most people
@BravoWifi10 жыл бұрын
the hair movement on this guy makes him look really wise
@Ali_0h3 жыл бұрын
Dis Guy hits the nail on it’s head, suffering brings great creativity whereas “happinesses” can feel like an empty vessel
@kleinermannsr.83348 жыл бұрын
Problem is, it depends on what you call happiness. I suppose here, Zizek names "happiness" a kind of contentment, a calm situation like, sitting with a cigare and a glass of wine, listening to Mozart, under a not too hot sun in Spring, in your garden. I suppose for people this kind of situation isn't disagreable, but just too flat to be called "happiness".
@schmittenhammer10 жыл бұрын
So I haven't been wishy washy or confused all my life, just normal. Thank you!
@whuffo10 жыл бұрын
It's quite possible to be happy AND interesting; those aren't opposites at all.
@andrewpearson19036 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is meant to be content. You and I are made for different things, vulf :)
@maratonec59 жыл бұрын
i agree, we lose our personality without emotional suffer, we get dehumanized in a way
@practician57305 жыл бұрын
and why is it bad to lose personality, losing ego means you can see reality as it is.
@leagueofdraven66134 жыл бұрын
@@practician5730 But personality =/= ego
@bdstudios60883 жыл бұрын
With other people I usually listen to their speech on double or triple speed, but with Zizek I feel like I have to slow it down, he gives so much to process
@IanAannevik8 жыл бұрын
I think this is kind of what it's like when you have a particular place in mind that you want to visit, and when you finally get there it's not at all like you imagined it to be. It needs to be at a distance, in a way. For instance how many people imagine Paris to be similar to how it is in the film Amelie, and when they get there they see how filthy and just city-like it really is.
@andrewpearson19036 жыл бұрын
The des Esseintes kid in "Á rebours" eating at an "English" restaurant in Paris instead of risking disappointment on a trip to London. What we want is not in the world.
@theoffensiveidiot59964 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful
@pkingo19 жыл бұрын
Happiness isn't about getting what you desire :). It's the other way around - when you're happy what you desire comes to you.
@drakecummings78055 жыл бұрын
Wow, well worded
@Fredric_Cedrich9 ай бұрын
This man inspires me
@BingtheLizard8 жыл бұрын
It's demonstrated to me in my experience in gaming. The meaningful (and yes, enjoyable) part is the challenge, the rise towards the end "happy" state of the game where one pictures one's self dominating everything. When you finish the climb and can obliterate anything and everything with a single swing of a blade, it doesn't instigate joy. It births boredom. It's after that point that I start the game from scratch again; deleting my old save so that the inaccessibility of the end state becomes my drive for progress once more.
@AlbertOlli6668 жыл бұрын
Great analysis here. Exactly what happens to me as well when I play video games.
@onyxianz81328 жыл бұрын
That's a very accessible analogy of the idea and it hits home for me and i'm sure that it would hit home for many other young thinkers of the early 21st century.
@alexsm38823 жыл бұрын
I'm never really happy and I'm never really sad, I just keep moving forward. I'm not sure what this contributes to this topic but I've felt this way for quite some time, and I don't feel the need for extreme happiness, I'm not even sure what that is tbh.
@michakilijanek74374 жыл бұрын
Wow.. it just struck me: Slavoy in the ending sentences just explained the ending of "American Beauty", which I couldn't really grasp as well as I can now with this psychoanalytic inside.
@cclark32 жыл бұрын
That is so fascinatingly beautiful, when you are ready to suffer you begin to live.
@jarodtall787610 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the greatest 2 minutes of my life.
@jarodtall787610 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarod
@jarodtall787610 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, how is it going.
@jarodtall787610 жыл бұрын
I am good. How are you.
@jarodtall787610 жыл бұрын
Just watching some youtube, while fondling my genitles.
@jarodtall787610 жыл бұрын
I love doing that, in fact I am doing that at this very instant.
@qqueuenstein56169 жыл бұрын
Zizek conflates pleasure with happiness here. In his defense, so does much of humanity; it is to them he is speaking.
@guineapig555559 жыл бұрын
Q Queuenstein No he doesn't. His main point is just that happiness or pleasure or whatever other word you use for it does not lie in the ethical domain. the point is whether you're pursuing your goals as an end in themselves, or whether you're pursuing them just to be happy or satisfied. Zizek thinks the latter is morally wrong. You should be doing things because they are valuable in themselves, not because they give you happiness. For example, a serial killer kills and hurts other human beings, but that makes them happy. How can you possibly say happiness lies in the ethical domain here?
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
happiness occurs when either emotions are fulfilled or the ego is fulfilled, and many times both.
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
That's why there is a sweet spot when you practice discipline, you get a little of both for the most part.
@Ray2311us4 жыл бұрын
but who am I to know, right?
@rab82985 жыл бұрын
"We dont really want what we think we desire"
@kokomanation2 жыл бұрын
The reason we do things or follow our interests is to reach a level of happiness.Happiness is a motivation for action in my opinion.
@josipmarkic39175 жыл бұрын
This guy should say: “my name is Count Dracula”
@Woodside2354 жыл бұрын
Misread as "Count Dankula" but that would certainly be interesting as well.
@captainsjam2129 жыл бұрын
" Once you get what you want, you don't want it " - Marilyn Monroe
@93BlazinFire4 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, the great philosopher Marilyn Monroe. Very astute observation.
@JstJaybeingJay3 жыл бұрын
@@93BlazinFire probably said while high on Coke... 😂. But I guess that also explains why she never settled for one partner.
@noticias611110 жыл бұрын
For most of my life I've been a VERY pessismistic person with what some ppl might call interesting thoughts but never really happy.A few years back to add to that I found out I had Aspergers and could ruminate on how much of my behavior was b/c of that.However while I do respect Mr.Zizek (`_` who lost me 1/2 way-ish ''^_^) I still think that being happy is more important than being interesting,something oh so subject to the complications of perspectives from the interpersonal side of things. The issue is that with the majority of ppl there is on some innate level (ignore whether it cuz of "nature or nurture" for a moment) often the conventional normative idea of happiness as sensual a/o self-serving a/o a materialistic pursuit like fame,tonnes o'money,their own big company or a hot girlfriend (that might not even be mixed in with a lofty dose of a constructive principle a/o ideal). That is a kind of happiness that seems like a thing that to a person who ponders on that one idea of happiness and does not take it to be the only one, sees it as unappealing and smelling of conformity.Hook happiness up with interest and personal passion and I think Mr.Zizek would say something different and (from what I got) something less unfavorable about happiness.Or hey but by that point we can change it to calling it "joy" or do you wanna start off by describing and commenting on "joy" in the first place? That part about scientists dying cuz of radiation in the pursuit of knowledge?.Intellectualism?.That's a form of consequentialism/teleology with an undertone making the imperative that the best action is the one that best fosters and promotes knowledge.Not happiness. That's the key there.
@IsChrisHere10 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I completely understood the last part, but I believe you meant to argue that the scientist were pursuing knowledge and not happiness. I would argue that human happiness is a very complex thing, and finding knowledge may be the one thing that would bring the hypothetical scientists the most happiness. They wanted knowledge, because it would bring them happiness. Living any other way, doing anything else would, in their mind, bring them less happiness. People do things for happiness purposes either most of the times or all the time. One jumps before a train to save a kid, because one knows that one would not be able to live with oneself if one didn't. I am on youtube right now, procrastinating, because I somehow believe that this will make me happier than doing what I should be doing. To go back to what Zizek says about creative people willing to suffer for their creations: they know that suffering will bring them more happiness deep down.
@IsChrisHere10 жыл бұрын
Chris S I'll add: often part of the decision making process is other people's happiness. The brave soldier fighting for freedom in WOII might know that he could be leading a much happier life, but he fights anyway, because he thinks that his actions will bring more happiness to other people than anything he could be doing might bring himself.
@KuntushoNiyamoto10 жыл бұрын
Chris S do you really mean what you added then, or is it for comforting people? ~
@noticias611110 жыл бұрын
Chris S I don't think it was only "creative people willing to suffer for their creations: they know that suffering will bring them more happiness deep down." though `_` I know that there are many purposes that aren't happy making that ppl committed.How I'd like to ask him if such a thing "2b more interesting than happy" would be something he'd request/press on as a normative role for children instead of happiness.Than what?.
@ayanavolahiri31223 жыл бұрын
"We don't really want what we think we desire" most appropriately said.
@AdobadoFantastico9 жыл бұрын
Slavoj is interesting, but I can never decide if I think he's full of shit, or not. Very thought provoking, at the least.
@mrguysnailz49079 жыл бұрын
Anguel Roumenov Bogoev perfect insight on the guy. I like listening to him,anyways.
@DerHammerSpricht9 жыл бұрын
Anguel Roumenov Bogoev I feel the same about him more or less. I think that's mostly his mission, to provoke thought for the sake of provoking thought. He certainly seems more like an "interesting" guy than a "happy" guy.
@stdrum-nb6qr9 жыл бұрын
Anguel Roumenov Bogoev yeah, that was clearly a mindfuck
@matthewthewthew9 жыл бұрын
Well he's doing his job then. The role of a philosopher is to ask questions and provoke debate.
@AdobadoFantastico9 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hayhow I guess so :P
@monicap34035 жыл бұрын
This video should include "AKA why study computer science when you could go into humaniora studies in college"
@beyond_hjaemmetraening5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@onurbole79214 жыл бұрын
Lol this happened to me. I was out having fun with some crazy women, sometimes getting obsessed with them, considering my gf of 7 years as an obstacle. Well I didn't really change my attitude towards her, she was still my priority, sex was still good etc. But that's the point, I saw her as an obstacle because I was not able to get serious with someone else or spend time with them as much. Then she left me, which was so devastating and unexpected. Now I got a few women still infatuated with me, but I refuse to see them, I ghosted them, I don't even find them attractive anymore. It's been 3 months and there is no second that I haven't thought of my ex. Even when I tried to date new women, I realized I was really imagining my gf and putting them in her place, which got me more depressed and I stopped lol.
@renebleu87114 жыл бұрын
Onur Böle Move on. If she comes back, don’t take her back. Don’t operate from scarcity.
@rizkibandang46194 жыл бұрын
kings move
@benderisback6193 жыл бұрын
That's because you're yet to heal from your addictive ex. I suggest rehab by not getting into a relationship or having sex for a year or two.
@jesterfrombeyond17769 ай бұрын
I saw this first 10 years ago and visit this video every now and again to remind myself of this very important insight. Thanks Zizek! Not persuing happiens has produced so much happienes in my life. ;)
@jsepulvedas5 жыл бұрын
He seems to be confusing happiness for comfort or pleasure, but he's right.
@dav7868 жыл бұрын
*wannabee smart comment
@andrewpearson19036 жыл бұрын
Police help yes I'm at the corner of seventeenth and main and I've just been satirized. Someone I didn't even know him just came up and poked fun at me. I think it was cutting -- yes it was really cutting arrrgh it hurts
@waswaswad5 жыл бұрын
Smartass arrogant answer
@Stefano-dd2sf5 жыл бұрын
@@waswaswad cliche sarcastic comment
@maxospeedo24975 жыл бұрын
@@Stefano-dd2sf *no no he has got a point typical meme reply
@tuffguy86565 жыл бұрын
this changed my life. thank you!
@lynneperkins49411 жыл бұрын
Slavoj, there's a great little ditty written in the mid-20th Century by an American wit named Ogden Nash, and it sums up your point succinctly. As a rule, Man is a fool. When it is hot, He wants it cool. When it is cool, He wants it hot-- Always wanting What is not. Perhaps the libertine with the sweet wife and mistress should read more poetry.
@awsomeadi10 жыл бұрын
but you and slavoj or precisely exemplifying the unhappy man. i don't believe every man is unhappy
@lynneperkins49410 жыл бұрын
dopeboi123, I am not I sure what you mean. Why do I exemplify the unhappy man? Why do you think I think everyone is unhappy? Why do you think that I am unhappy?
@awsomeadi10 жыл бұрын
im saying that the poem in your comment exemplifies the man who is not present, the man who desires what he does not have. it is true that this man is the unhappy man, it is not true that all man is like this. it is possible to be happy as the man that has rid himself of desires and found peace in the present. that is my point
@lynneperkins49410 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. I believe that Socrates' "Know thyself" is the first step to, if not happiness, than contentment. The poem says clearly, "As a rule..." and it's true. Too many of us do not understand what we are about, and as a result, we are unhappy. But what makes ME that way? You haven't answered.
@derPetunientopf5 жыл бұрын
I i remember correctly the Buddhists say that desire means suffering. If you stop desiring you are enlighted. But your daily life will basicly be the same. Chopping wood and carrying water (or whatever it is you do).
@Paul-ck3dm Жыл бұрын
cool philosophic thought but the easy answer is... feeling happy feels better.
@brianroman41147 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a murderer"
@ljeonjko7 жыл бұрын
"Why Be Happy When You Could Be Interesting?" "happiness is, for me, a very conformist category." so being interesting to other people, meaning, conforming to social standards of interesting, is more important than your personal fulfillment?
@ismellrudolph8 жыл бұрын
His twitching and constant camera movement makes me so fucking anxious
@01_rickyjulianto_fh103 ай бұрын
i think what he tryna say is "what we want is what we don't have until we have it, it's not guaranteed makes us happy. the desire make us happy not the desired"
@OztrumStrikesBack3 жыл бұрын
tl;dw: "i'm not happy so i'm gonna prove philosophically that being happy isn't that much of a deal"
@marsaint3 жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂😂😂
@CalleHunefalk11 жыл бұрын
Slavoj Zizek this sounds intriguing, but is based on an ignorant view of happiness. Clinging to the "next big thing" or something "over there" will never bring you happiness - there will always be something more on the horizon. Understanding the movements of the mind, letting go of the never-ending grasping after something unreachable, you can actually find it within yourself. Now that'd be radical, wouldn't it?
@Sjepsenmia11 жыл бұрын
Actually that's buddism
@CalleHunefalk11 жыл бұрын
Søren Jepsen The point is that there's a difference in how we perceive happiness. Slavoj Zizek takes one view of what happiness is, and communicates it as "the only right way to see it". The point was just that you can see it differently, figuring out what happiness is on your own. My view of happiness is very different from the view communicated in this video, but that's not related to any religion.
@vanderherring10 жыл бұрын
Calle Hunefalk You ever thought that he might use the term happiness in a narrower sense (pursuit of desire) than you? In other words, it is a good habit to think if the person uses the terms the same as you do before you criticize. I had the same arguments as you (maybe I worded them less arrogantly) but then thought a bit and made the conclusion that if you speak of happiness that comes from fulfiffling desires, then it makes 100% sense. And probably that's what Zizek was about.
@CalleHunefalk10 жыл бұрын
Michał Jaros The comment was never meant as criticism. I do apologize if the wording came across arrogantly, that was certainly not the intention, either. More in the way of "there are other ways of seeing it". However, I take your comment to heart, and will carefully select the wording on comments in the future. Thank you.
@WuShogun21210 жыл бұрын
Though i agree that sometimes we don't always want what we desire at this moment because us humans can get real materialist or just envious and want things just to have them. But to say that happiness is not important or people don't really want to be happy its just a ridiculous statement, what you are saying is an extreme assumption that you could never accurately prove. Happiness is subjective, everybody's idea of happiness is different, his happiness is probably telling other people that they don't want to be happy XD.
@collinsmugodo38010 жыл бұрын
I think what he's saying is...simply being happy is not satisfactory. Happiness is a frame of mind that is always available and easy to achieve for the most part. People who have left legacies and built things that they're proud of be it through pain or some other dark emotion, like Mandela for example or Darwin or Steve Jobs are the people who at the end of their lives feel content...those guys were not necesarily 'happy' for a good portion of their lives...but they definitely were interesting.
@FaiThEisTT10 жыл бұрын
"But to say that happiness is not important or people don't really want to be happy its just a ridiculous statement, what you are saying is an extreme assumption that you could never accurately prove." What you are saying is an extreme assumption that you could never accurately prove, either. Think about it.
@LifeLikeSage10 жыл бұрын
collins mugodo But why would someone want to leave a legacy? For some perceived notion of reward that equates to happiness no? I would say that happiness is something that is beneficial to an individual, but if taken too heavily into account detrimental to a society.
@collinsmugodo38010 жыл бұрын
LifeLikeSage I'm yet to meat someone who doesn't want to leave a legacy. Of course after you leave this world you would want to have affected it in some way
@LifeLikeSage10 жыл бұрын
collins mugodo "He who dies with the most toys still dies" I recommend you mull over what drives you to leave a legacy. Chances are it is egocentric and subjective. When broken down, egocentric behaviors equate to nothing more than irrational programming to ensure that an organism passes down its genetic material; the purpose, or better yet driving force, is the fact that anything that more effectively reproduces itself will have more of itself propagated and existing. So yes, you would expect to see a vast majority of humans wishing to leave a legacy of offspring and/or technology to immortalize the specific individual they were when they were alive. I ask you to deeply question the driving forces behind your choices and understand the difference between what constitutes You and what constitutes genetic biological urges that manipulate you to carry out actions without the consent of your will. The urge to eat is a great example of a biological urge that is not cognitively you, but instead simply a mechanism enslaving you for the purpose of basic survival. It's important that you take notice that your desire to leave a legacy is not originally a conscious choice, it's a genetic compulsion. Billions of years after our sun has swollen into a red giant and engulfed Earth along with all of the other inner planets, any remnants of anyone's "legacy" will be effectively eradicated. You mentioned that you have never met an individual that didn't want to leave a vain fingerprint on the planet they inhabited... Well, now you can say you have. I'll leave you with this alternative to leaving your dent on this world: "It's not about changing the world, it's about doing our best to keep the world as it was before we arrived, respecting the will of others, and believeing in our own."
@David-yk5tq2 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome! I completely feel related to what he's talking about. What a smart and wise person! 😄
@Luckysayshello9 жыл бұрын
Let me explain to everyone here. The only thing psychoanalysis tells us is that people are not self-aware. That's it. Just because people don't understand what makes them happy. It doesn't mean people don't want happiness. There is but one truth. "Everyone wants to be happy." It is another matter that they don't understand it.
@RedInferno1129 жыл бұрын
+Lalit Verma Happiness is undefined, in other words, meaningless. It needs to be defined objectively in a way such as "high seratonin levels" or whatever (not sure if seratonin gives good mood, physicist not neurologist :P)
@schroeder6669 жыл бұрын
+Lalit Verma The desire to be happy is not consistent. And there is no clear definition between the desire to be happy and the desire to forget one's ego or vanity. We have curious mood swings and curious shifts of focus which determine our behavior - we in fact turn away from our relationships, the way we turn away from food or sex, and do not know when we will return to them, or why we stay away from them, or why we become sarcastic and disgusted with affection. This is the mystery. If it were not the case, people would marry someone they love and have babies and be incredibly blissed out and happy from being with their family. But they are not, even if they have money and security. Instead our greatest desire is for love and relationship -- which we gaze at hypnotically, and then spit on and turn away.
@andrewpearson19036 жыл бұрын
We want to return to God. Some hunch tells me that martyrs aren't exactly high in serotonin and oxytocin, before or during torture and death
@kirklandau28265 жыл бұрын
@@RedInferno112 You think a subjective state needs to be "defined" in neurochemical terms or else it's "meaningless"? That's absurd. Also that would mean most of subjective human expression is meaningless, because neuroscience is very, very far from "defining" even a fraction of the subjective human experience, let alone its totality.
@kirklandau28265 жыл бұрын
@@schroeder666 If you spit on and turn away from love and a relationship and you become disgusted with affection then you have severe psychological disorders which are not shared by most mentally healthy people.
@andrejkocman10 жыл бұрын
I know perfectly well what I desire, and believe me, it is what I truly want. Maybe because I am normal. In the past I reached my goals and I was truly happy. I wanted it to last. Now, that things got awkward, and astray from what I longed for, I am truly unhappy. And I don't find a bit of happiness in it. What you say is contradictory to what you represent. Why do you still do what you do then? To be unhappy? You truly are a slovenian product. I'll write no more.
@SkateSka10 жыл бұрын
Fulfillment and happiness are different things. You can live your life pursuing either one. Grab a dictionary sometime. I've been very happy lately. I've been sad too. I don't go looking for either of those states, I just try to act accordingly to my situation. I'm a musician, that's what I do, and because I like what I do I'm happy when I'm doing it. I'm NOT a musician because I want music to make me happy. I'm simply being me, that's fulfilling. I'm glad enough to be able to listen to the works of great people. Zizek is himself and I'm sure he's considered pretty successful, I can't speak for him as he is definitely smarter than me. I can bet he feels fulfillment when doing his work. What I'm saying is you see things in a reverse order.
@andrejkocman10 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion, I don't agree with you though.
@SkateSka10 жыл бұрын
Miracle Man Thanks for not arguing, I don't really have anything to add :D
@YouKilledYourMaster10 жыл бұрын
Miracle Man I'm glad you decided to explain why you disagree. lol
@Reddles377 жыл бұрын
Fulfillment is something that makes people happy. Consider this, if something were to suddenly go wrong with the wiring of your brain so that being fulfilled made you deeply unhappy, what would you do then? Would you really continue to seek fulfillment as a musician at the cost of being miserable all the time? If you became unhappy every time you played or listened to music, would you keep doing it? It seems obvious to me that fulfillment is only a means to an end, people want to be fulfilled because it gives them a deeper sense of happiness than the superficial happiness you get from things happening in the moment. If being fulfilled and being happy are ever in conflict, i'm sure most people would choose happiness. Take you for instance, why did you decide to be a musician instead of doing something else. I'm sure there must be some subject you didn't enjoy, why did you not seek fulfillment by studying that? When you say that you are "simply being me", is that not another way of saying that you are doing the things that make you happy rather than the things that don't?
@UltimateKyuubiFox11 жыл бұрын
'Sadness is happiness for deep people.' I love when people quote Doctor Who and nobody notices.
@SheWillPaintRosesRed5 ай бұрын
love you zizek thanks for making me feel better about being sad all the time