Sleeved Tubing is the new meta!

[@SpottedHares]

Just because it’s not hard doesn’t mean it’s not intimidating especially when you’ve never done it before

[@UnknownString123]

🤔

[@Stackali]

the issue you were talking about the fans happened to me. i had a case that had triple fans in front and on top. but the fan on the top closest to the front of the case you take probably half the air and immediately exhaust it. once i removed that one fan temps improved quite a bit.

[@mastervorn6380]

Yeah I agree with Jay. Agree with you. Gotta have more intake than exhaust. His last Origin pre-built review they did the same thing. It's annoying to say the least because common sense tells any decent PC builder, more intake, less exhaust = better cooling. You know it's still grinding Jay's gears thinking about Origin's fan config 😂 I have always had better Temps in my builds with positive or neutral pressure compared to negative pressure. Jay did mention a valid point before, Origin probably does it that way simply for aesthics.

[@NelielSugiura]

The first thing I am thinking of when seeing this is how much more accessible this kind of tubing would be because we do not have to faff with a heat gun and perfect measurements. The second is how much that black sleeve would make the black-box aesthetic work. Pretty cool.

[@neils9944]

Well said. More Plug and play like

[@MakinComputers]

I'm a big advocate of soft tubing. General maintenance of the pc is easier as you can move tubes out the way, you can upgrade your CPU without having to drain the loop, it's safer for travel as the tubes have give and move about without ripping themselves out. If you take your time and learn how to manipulate the tubing to get different shaped and angled bends then it can look just as good as rigid tubing. And the tubing in that build is more than likely Corsair XT Softline Mesh Tubing, which comes with the sleeving applied already, available in black and white.

[@Voodoo.]

Ek have been doing black soft tubing for years you should check it out

[@ItsReallyGeo]

​@MakinComputers I run soft tubing myself for the very same reasons, but let's not act like it's going to look nearly as good as properly run hard tubing. We gotta take that L in stride. Function over Form

[@MakinComputers]

@@ItsReallyGeo that's down to personal taste. When distros and acrylic hard-line was first being done by modders like bnegative and l3p, it was cool and different. Now, most of the time it's pretty dull. "Oh look, you've got a distro and nothing but horizontal runs. Yay*" (*sarcasm) There are a few people who still do really interesting stuff with hard-line, Ben Q does some insane builds with bent (as in curved) brass and copper tubing, liquidhaus does some awesome stuff combining hard-line with sleeved soft tubing, but on the whole I'm done with hard-line. O11 distro builds in particular can just gtfo. So boring, so dull, so unimaginative it's beyond belief. You see someone on a Facebook group who's done something a little funky and different that looks interesting and cool, they ask if people think it's ok and what they should change and the crowd go mental at the idea of anything remotely unique, urging them to change it to those same boring-ass horizontal lines. No, fudge that, the only thing that matters is if you like it, they don't all have to look the same. Take your time, learn how to manipulate soft tubing, and it can absolutely look awesome. Imo anyway.

[@masterblaster6470]

I already build my third water cooling PC and it is only thanks to You and Your tutorials. Thanks.

[@nerdypcbuilder]

I mean I have been building computers for almost 20 years now but so I could never hate on anyone for selling computers because that's what pays my bills but I try to encourage anyone I talk to into building their own pc's. I have even brought people in that have messaged me about paying for me to put together a computer and doing it for free just to help them and get the experience. I like to see you still get excited about computer related stuff after all these years though Jay. Appreciate you still making content after all these years 👌

[@deanwilliams433]

I'm a Software Engineer and have lots of friends that simply don't want to build and don't mind paying a premium for a good pre-built.

[@rodhester2166]

20 years ago I braided everything, power supply cables, down to the power button wires. It was in a plex case that showed everything, got the idea from engine compartment of my mustang and a refrigerator water line that was steel braided.

[@Geneticspore]

Braiding cables...NEVER EVER again lol.

[@Evo_Spec]

Nice to see how much care they put into their build even with the cable management. If someone was that uncomfortable doing their own build, I would recommend these Origin PCs.

[@booogs]

my latest build (now 5 years old) i did a mix of hardline and sleeved tubing. the hardest part is obviously finding the perfect sleeve size. for 3/8 soft tubing, there was plenty of stuff on amazon, but I opted to use racecar milspec tubing (fire resistant, etc etc) used commonly in milspec wiring harnesses.

[@AronBuilds]

I love the reference to the automotive look! That's why I went fairly automotive/industrial with my build and did black tubing that looks like lines in an engine bay. It's so rad and very clean imo.

[@evileyeball]

I feel you so hard when you said "I get OCD about the front but by the time i get to the back I'm out of energy" MY Wife bought me cable mod cables for Christmas to replace the stock cables in my PC. I instaleled the EPS, The 24 pin, and the 2x PCIE 8 pin to my 3060TI... I have 5 Sata Power connections (3 Spinning HDD's I plan to use until they die as Extra storage, an Internal Optical Drive, and a Sata power my Case uses) That are all in the rear, I didn't bother switching the Sata cables over to the Cable mod ones, If I ever re-use this power supply in a future build and need Satas at that point sure, but at this point, you can't see any of the Satas from the front so Screw changing them.

[@jmike8934]

I can't believe it's taken this long for Jay to take notice of sleeving soft tubing. I'm on my 3rd build where I've sleeved soft tube and there are some quirks to getting it done. I've also sleeved hard tubing but I've not had the balls to actually use it in my entire system because I had it pop off twice during 2 separate leak tests. However after a few changes it held for 4 days straight, but again not enough confidence to actually have ran it. From my experience MDPC-X's BIG sleeving on 13/19 works the best but the trick there is actually getting your hands on if you are US based.

[@Flakwell]

they did a good job on the logo graphics front and back. the logo on the glass panel pops nicely.

[@hazardhound4514]

That sleeved tubing would look great with those chrome fans!

[@alex16870]

THAT Kink on the top sleeved tubing to the top rad ,sheeeeshh......

[@logicud]

Drill 4 holes and you can mount 2x 200mm TT fans on the front panel. I don't have any air getting sucked out without putting in the work. Home Depot sells *1/4" barbed nipples x 1/4" fittings* for $4. They fit the threaded tubes if you got an old unused AIO, and if you don't look directly at it, it's not too ghetto.

[@kimborch8547]

First thing i noticed when he was removing the instapack, was the hose kinked from the top rad.

[@SlowCaribou]

Same!!!

[@mmmdawe]

wait, comments complaining about not doing builds but just "unboxing them" are removed? what the hell

[@austinwarren6842]

Finally, something unique... atleast more unique than seizure inducing fishtanks

[@Noobsaucer]

"I get OCD about the front, and I'm just out of energy by the time I get to the back." dude, LITERALLY THE STORY OF MY LIFE when it comes to cable management.

[@unixtool]

Keep it up brother. Life for builders I think will be horrible in the coming future. Love you work. Thank you.

[@bdifferentb]

Love the "we're gonna do it live" reference. I'm old enough to laugh at it. He lost his mind that day lol.

[@ronnie8274]

Great information Jay. I sware, it's like you came over to my house and sat down with me and explained everything so I could understand. Thank you Jay.

[@ipoopmuffins]

that cable management is great. im with you Jay, on all my builds my cable management is like a Mullet...business in the front, party in the back.

[@2321kenb]

mines like a homeless meth addict in the back. I started to make it nice and then i was like f it... the side panel still closes, i got games to play LOL.

[@johneisele6264]

I'm glad you and origin are still working together despite you proving them wrong in a previous video about fan orientation. That's what's up 🤙

[@etas1c]

Yea cuz accepting 5 figure checks is hard🙃

[@lunsmann]

More explosions please Jay. I am tired, and we been having too many warm nights in a row and your dulcet tones make me sleepy. More explosions please. That said, awesome content as ever.

[@MrPerforations]

i brought the sleeving about 2 years ago. finally going to use it next few days when i do that full loop rebuild.

[@TheOriginalItchyman]

Back in the day radiators always got intake fans, because it makes sense to cool them with the coldest air, especially if it's full watercooling.

[@zanzabar4ky7]

Back in the day most rads got exhaust, and your gpu didn't throw hot air back in your case.

[@TheCRDMiller]

​@@zanzabar4ky7i want to go back, it might even be feasible with a quad slot blower.... lol

[@CptJistuce]

@@zanzabar4ky7 Back in the day, the power supply threw hot air back into your case. No, really. That was the official ATX1.0 spec. Few manufacturers of power supplies actually adhered to that part of the spec, because it was obviously stupid(or they didn't notice the change. The power supply had been the ONLY exhaust for so long, it was just assumed that the power supply fan was an exhaust).

[@zanzabar4ky7]

@@CptJistuce old power ibm spec supplies had closed backs to make sure no one spilled liquid in them, so it would make sense for Intel's first spec to be that way.

[@CptJistuce]

@@zanzabar4ky7 Yeah, and computers of the time only needed one fan for cooling. But IBM power supplies were EXHAUST fans, not INTAKE.

[@nosliwec]

Thanks for clarifying that I can use a drain valve to fill. I have been searching for this answer. I am going to be using EKWB's CPU/Pump combo and debating about a drain valve on the fill port and a drain valve on my bottom rad in an NR200 case.

[@CriticalThinker-42]

Its nice to see Origin was smart enough to not use hard tubing. Too bad the side fan direction was wrong.

[@blazingmatty123]

The only thing I'd say is that if they're going to do sleeved tubing like this would be that really they're best off using an EPDM based tubing like EK ZMT or alphacool's offerings as it won't leech plasticiser into the loop over time

[@rustler08]

Exactly. Plasticizers suck, and it's pretty damn hilarious that they went out of their way to get an inferior tubing material that you usually compromise with because it's clear and they proceed to make it opaque anyway.

[@blazingmatty123]

@@rustler08 yeah, I get that clear is the go to for these Prebuilt systems because pretty, but if you're not seeing the actual tube anyways then no point it being clear stuff full of plasticiser and all that, may as well just go EPDM at that point, there's a reason I have like 25-30m of the 13/19mm stuff in the conservatory haha

[@wimpyhugz_TGK]

@@rustler08 They didn't really go out of their way since Corsair owns Origin now so they pretty much use exclusively Corsair watercooling products (and RAM, cases, etc) in their builds. If anything, using EPDM would be going out of their way instead...

[@Pyreleaf]

@@-T--T- how did that work out for you? I'm considering building a simple Alphacool custom loop at some point with a slim 30mm radiator and the Eisbaer Aurora Pro cpu pump block.

[@blazingmatty123]

@@-T--T- Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the 10/13 stuff all told, bit too thin walled, kinks easy, though I did just do a build using their 10/16mm EPDM tubing and that was a dream to use

[@themillenialfalcon]

I put sleeving on my tubes months ago and my brother told me it looked dumb. I hope he sees this and knows his folly.

[@steffithemad8327]

Dont know if anyone said it but that case is the 5000D. I use the 7000D. I am also ocd about the front but NEVER out of energy by the time I get to the back, ask my wife.

[@_.francescodm]

Man here its 2am, you cant drop this video now, you know I'm gonna watch it

[@devilchild8811]

Ive stripped graphics cards down, learnt how to oc and do custom loops all because of this channel.

[@uk_drew]

lol jay , PJ built that for you i know 100% by the cable tidy hes done , hes the only one in with o.c.d when doing your pc , hes amazing at building pcs

[@TEZAREASON]

i agree with you when it comes to cable management you perfect the front and run out of energy on the back cabling

[@KatDiesel25]

I love my Corsair 5000D airflow. I have my fans set up on the side as intakes. I also opted for the white so I could have that RGB puke in your face as it comes with the clear glass. Nice looking PC you got there Jay. Keep it up!

[@timothyreed7241]

Jay they're probably just using wire loom electrical cable sleeving. You can get that sleeving up to like 5" making Chinese finger cuffs for your legs lol. You can also get some really cool marine and industrial color schemes with trace colors and also in different materials. If it is more like rope or paracord you can just go down to your local West Marine or other boat supplier and pick up rope and pull out the core. My favorite custom cables I made for a marine hydraulics maintenance guy had the cables sleeved in blue an gray dyneema. It was very difficult to make the dyneema look nice without heatshrink.

[@hadleys.4869]

I think the best soft tubing is the black EPDM 10/16mm tubing. Very durable. Just used it on my custom loop. Corsair 1000D case and 2x 480mm radiators 58mm thick.

[@BigBig5]

Down the road I will be upgrading my PC to a custom loop with sleeved tubes.

[@itsBECKERZ]

"These are the new dominator platinums" >Sticks say Titanium

[@Jayztwocents]

I'm stupid so do you expect better? Lol

[@itsBECKERZ]

@@Jayztwocents 😂😂😂

[@--_DJ_--]

They really should find an alternative to the expanding foam. I would not be happy to get a kinked hose with messed up sleeving on a computer that is as expensive as this one. A GPU bracket seems like it would make more sense than rolling the dice on how the foam expands.

[@shadowwolf2608]

For its price, that MSI board looks pretty premium to my eyes.

[@stefansydow89]

doing this for years. you can experiment with bright tubes and dark sleeve or dark tubes and bright sleeve

[@rustler08]

Only if it's ZMT. It is counterproductive to use tubes like they did that include plasticizers. One of the sacrifices we make with clear tubing is these plasticizers, all so we get that nice transparent look. But if you get rid of that via sleeves, now it's just stupid because you're still making the same sacrifice while not getting the benefit. So, buy some ZMT/EPDM tubes

[@GrizzAxxemann]

PVC is cheap as dirt. I can buy 50 feet for what I paid for 10ft of EPDM. I use PVC for mockup/flush/temporary setups.

[@weroliera]

Only built pcs we see on this channel is pre builds. Make jaystwocents great again and abolish case showcase videos and only do full builds on each case that you’re “reviewing”

[@stormwooten1606]

It's a review of a prebuild. He literally just did an entire series with a dual custom loop.

[@Raven.Bloodrot]

What are you talking about? He legitimately just did a custom build

[@ABP8214]

"WAAAHHHHHH!! Jay isn't doing what I want him to do!!" Just shut up and enjoy the video!!

[@iamaduckquack]

I'll call you a whaaambulance.

[@elusivelectron]

Those tubes look terrible. Bends make the loops look good and have more volume due to the extra length.

[@lewworthem8483]

Sleeved tubing! Be still my heart!

[@winstreakin]

Idk if you covered it but another added benefit of the freight shipping service from the side of a business and for the consumer is that freight level logistics refunds and insurances claims go through MUCH faster than consumer level insurance policies due to the amount of money that gets moved by the shipping company day to day Obviously you can run the risk of your computer getting completely impaled by a forklift, but the insurance coverage feels like a league above consumer grade.

[@lilpain1997]

Man I really want to do a full custom hard loop for my next rig but its something I have been putting off due to not wanting to fuck it all up lol.

[@geort45]

It looks great but it's a PITA if you change things around/update frequently... you have to plan ahead too, take more measurements, etc. I changed last year and damn... makes you think twice hehe

[@lilpain1997]

@@geort45 I swap every 4yrs. So every 2 gens. Got a 3080 will grab a 5080 or whatever AMD puts out and maybe then I'll try a custom loop.

[@jondonnelly3]

Wise to avoid it honestly. Maintance is a pain, upgrading is a pain, it is more likely to leak. Wise to start with soft tube build first and honestly you will be plenty happy.

[@geort45]

if it's your fist custom loop go for soft tubing really...

[@Saint_Owned]

Accidentally watched the intro at .25 speed. Made my day! Remember that eye contact is important. 🙂

[@smokeyninja9920]

Tube sleeves now available in materials that change color when moistened

[@yourablob]

What is the name of the company that supplies those? Sounds awesome

[@TheSparkLabs]

​@@yourablob pretty sure that was a joke about loops leaking

[@smokeyninja9920]

@@yourablob I was joking, though it is a wonderful product idea, right?

[@smokeyninja9920]

@@TheSparkLabs More that the idea that you could instantly locate a leak if it were to happen, make the addition of tube sleeves serve a function rather than just being aesthetic.

[@N8deezy74]

Funny how PC trends are similar to clothing trends in that styles return to popularity...we sleeved tubing all the time in the 2000s.

[@RheariO]

My pc back in 2011 had a custom sleeved loop, i like this

[@2321kenb]

Origin needs to start a service for just wire management.. id gladly send in my pc and pay to have the back of my pc look that tidy! 😂

[@rynosraceroom66]

That thing is beautiful ! 15 yrs ago I knew nothing about pc's . I never in my life thought I wld say something like that , ever .All because I found sim-racing at 36 or so lol .

[@PinkiePrime]

real missed opportunity to include *boop* in the video. jay's noises deserves all these callouts 😂

[@Joh_Lam]

I've been using black rubber soft tubes with chrome fittings for a while and love the aesthetics of it...

[@Arhey]

MDPC-X has sleeves fitting for 16mm tubes (Sleeving BIG) . I ordered it last year and wanted to sleeve my tubes aswell, but it was sooo much effort, so i kinda didnt continue.

[@Hanagin]

Of course you should get all the cables and stuff. Even though it's a pre-built, if you pay for the components, you get all that comes in the boxs. AND the boxes. They are yours after all. You paid for them.

[@micahbell3119]

I mean technically you get MORE warranty if you build it yourself and the warranty is more time based on individual parts vs 1 year for all parts (and pay more for more time)

[@AlphaMachina]

I prefer the look of that matte black rubber tubing, especially in the bigger diameters.

[@ernestg.harveyjr7087]

Bravo on the cable routing

[@Mr.Wizard101]

Oooo this build looked amazing! (And I don't like to stray away from a stealth builds 😮)

[@abzaman77]

Either they collaborated or replicated liquidhaus tube builds. He is surely the master of sleeved tubing.

[@johnbernhardtsen3008]

there is a deal when u buy a 12600k to 13700k here in denmark, u can save 20 dollars on the cpu if you buy certain z690/790 mobos! I had hoped for 100 dollar rebate

[@BigMoneyButters]

hey jay corsair has sold that tubing for like a month with the sleeving

[@ljs2476]

Put the case on its side and that drain port is a fill port that is at the highest point... not sure how the rest of the loop parts feel about being sideways (pump/res particularly) but that's how I'd try filling it the first time I did a coolant replacement.

[@AgentTex13]

Well now I would like to sleeve my clear tubes. Give my case some color without having to use either RGB or coloring my water, which might clog the fins in the cpu cooler

[@jacksondrake]

They made the fans on the backside of mine intakes. Surprised to see them do it differently for you!

[@Dailyrider94]

I can't find this specific one... Can't even configure it like this.... Looks awesome

[@aidenhewson]

Would love to see a video comparing msi lite load settings to manual undervolt. Setting lite load to 1 on my msi edge board reduced cpu temps by nearly 20 degrees

[@stefensmith9522]

ugh no lol. This goes back to the "bend" coil over tube and UV sleeves over IDE cable with a UV light bar days. Those were dark times lol

[@Edgemaster72]

Dang that cable management is so good it's almost criminal to cover it up

[@undefwun2135]

I can't get myself to like soft tubing. I am sure it's easier to work with, but to me personally that look ain't it, unfinshed in a way. Aesthetics are subjective though, so as long as the owner is happy. The fan issue is why I decided on a dual chamber case for my next build. No PSU to take up a side. Bottom and rear are intakes, blowing over the MB and then top and side rads to exhause and cool the loop.

[@SSYoung125]

Hey Jay could you do an RGB fan shootout? What fans are easiest to install, easiest to set up, least demanding software, looks the best, most vibrant / accurate RGB?

[@thebluestig2654]

Gotta say no to plain black sleeved tubing. Maybe if Automotive stainless steel braided sleeves and the red & blue A&N fittings were used it could look cool.

[@danielfrank7718]

totally aggree with the "aggressive settings" of MSI boards. got a z790 tomahawk wifi with a 13700k. just by enabling xmp for the RAM Clocks it was pulling up to 340 watts in the first benchmark and instantly thermal throttling after 10 seconds (for obvious reasons). But it didn´t crash :D great review as allways!

[@Mk5_Life]

Corsair came out with that tubing already ordered it with my new pc build

[@Timmyfigs]

Jay, HELP! I've been thinking about water cooling my next machine, but I'm not confident enough for a custom loop. Also I don't really want to deal with the maintenance involved. Is there a functional reason I never see you use an AIO for the CPU and something like an MSI Suprim, effectively having two separate sealed loops. Or do you just prefer to custom loop?

[@deansigman6099]

Seems like one long ad.

[@train3616]

Cable management always seems great with their rigs. But how easy will it honestly be to get to the boxes if one of the link boxes fail and need replaced. Clean is great but having everything easily accessible for ease of replacement could be nice as well. Not saying they'll fail but you never know.

[@_catay_]

corsair already sells this type of tubing

[@la3692]

That new Dominator Ram you can take the LED strip off the back and swap it for a heat sink.

[@rileycarlson9907]

I'd like to see a everything water-cooled PC like ram, m.2, GPU, CPU, motherboard 😂 I think that would be cool to see maybe do it to Phil's editing rig or something 🤷

[@ericocegueda3222]

The metal braided automotive tubing would also look cool.

[@1nicube]

sleeved tubing have been in automotive for decades! Im suprised its new in the pc community!

[@redlinegaming3612]

It's not. I was sleeving my pc's back in the 90's

[@billyhatcher643]

my cable management skills suck so badly if u saw my pc build youd get triggered pretty hard . I also had no issues building my first liquid cooled rig though i chose soft tubbing for my first build and im happy the way it turned out.

[@Crunkmaster]

i've always been a fan of the soft line black tubing... makes the pc look like you just opened up a car's hood, lol

[@kurtkuechenberg1684]

I am scratching my head looking at that reservoir blocking the fans. That's a no bueno I would think.

[@Sgt_SealCluber]

Cached SATA SSDs can be just as fast, in small 4-8gb transfers, as PCIE gen 4 drives. I wouldn't recommend them if you do a lot of large file transfers though since they can be slower than non-cached SATA drives with large files.

[@jondonnelly3]

No

[@Sgt_SealCluber]

@@jondonnelly3 Yes I know this because I was confused why my new gen4 NVME drive was getting the same speed on Crystal DiskMark as one my SATA SSDs. Turns out is was because the file size was too small (4-8GB), once I went to 16GB file it was the speed you would expect. So blame DiskMark because the transfer speeds were the same on there for smaller file size.

[@thebigopu2007]

For the prices they charge, Origin better put together a quality product.

[@briantakacs8511]

that is one gorgeous build

[@FlightRobXIII]

Interested why they're showcasing this all-corsair loop with 90 degree compressions for soft tubing yet corsair doesn't have 90's for soft tube on their website....

[@fourwheelerjock]

Really no need to go to m.2 drives for gaming to. Sata is just as fast for loading times and same for FPS and all that so that's probably why they was using that. I'd love to buy that sleeve tubing if they offer it

[@larracis]

wonder what they do with all these prebuilt systems that get shipped to them to review. Should give them all away to the community.

[@rattlehead999]

It was about damn time to sleeve the tubes. Now how can then reverse the direction of the fans????

[@robertnelson3179]

Wow had never thought about using a wood box or skid to avoid shipping damage. My background is logistics.

[@nielkotze]

I find it amusing that "sleeved tubing" is now considered as awesome. Every 240mm AIO watercooling rad that I've ever owned had sleeving on the cables ?

[@sethschaefer5623]

i appreciate the 'do it live' reference

[@azeryx]

I would have liked to see if there was cooling improvement by making side fans to intake.