Sleightly Out of Order by Patrick Redford

[@technowey]

We know partially how Aronson made his stack because he told us what routines he added to his stack. I do like that the Redford Stack can be shuffled into from New Deck order, and can be shuffled to and from Si Stebbins order. At the same time, Aronson has many built-in routines that cannot be done with the Redford stack. Both are different.

[@Davlavi]

Thanks for sharing this review.🙏

[@Erdnase23]

Superb, detailed review.

[@EruditeMagic]

Glad you liked it

[@shadowpest44]

Pre-ordered this book and was one of the first to get it. I cannot recommend it enough for any stack workers. You don’t necessarily have to have read Temporary Out Of Order (the first of what will be a 3 book series “Completely” will be next), but it will add a lot to your arsenal. Also, his Facebook group is very active (compared to several others I belong to). He also keeps his online “toolboxes” (that are videos on things in the books) updated and expanded as needed. He is very “hands on” (in the group) and his customer service is great.

[@EruditeMagic]

Great to hear from a long-term customer. Thanks for sharing!

[@michaeltravis4404]

Another great review! I paused halfway through and followed your link to Don's Magic & Books. That place is a goldmine! I bought some stuff and I'm sure I will go back again and again.

[@donunicycle]

Thanks Michael. I try to keep as much of a mix of titles as possible. I buy collections all the time, so that I can get them into the hands of others that can appreciate the tremendous amount of quality material still waiting to be mined from them.

[@EruditeMagic]

I know Don is sponsoring me, but I honestly couldn't be happier to have someone partnering with me who shares my love of magic books and wants to get them in the hands of Erudite magicians such as yourself! Thanks for the kind words about the channel and Don's Magic & Books!

[@michaeltravis4404]

@@donunicycle I am so glad you are doing that. I sometimes wonder how many old magic books get tossed out or lost to the unknown when a collector passes away. I remember when local magic clubs played a big part of getting all the old stuff into the hands of the next aspiring magic scholar. Those clubs seem to be few and far between these days. Keep up the great work! Your store and Jeff's reviews are a great collaboration to help the art of magic.

[@kalvinhepple5975]

Excellent review!loved it and liked very much that you mentioned the level that someone should be at to get the best out of the book.Wonderful. Thank You.

[@EruditeMagic]

Thanks for the feedback, Kevin! Glad you got what you needed out of the episode 👍

[@kalvinhepple5975]

@@EruditeMagic Your most welcome,it’s Kalvin actually but it happens often!Great review,keep going.Cant wait for the next one!

[@EruditeMagic]

Sorry about that! 😬 Thanks for the kind words 👍

[@nancyanderson5320]

This is a new name for me. Thanks for the introduction of Patrick Redford. I am a Tamariz memorized deck student so I am happy to see that I am not required to learn a new order. Your videos are amazing Jeff. So much to learn, thanks for all your good word. I am becoming a card “astute”!!😀

[@EruditeMagic]

Thanks for watching, Nancy!! Happy to help people find new inspirations from magic books

[@nickvarga918]

The Aronson was intentionally designed with a ton of built-in features - Check out A STACK TO REMEMBER. You can't get into AS easily from a new deck. This is the stack I use. Simon tended to think mathematically about his magic. His suggestions on stack numbers, etc. is well thought out. Mnemonica is built to go from Stebbins and back. Not many can do that. The five-disc video series has a tutorial of his cuts and handlings. He also mentions that most of the time he only works with half a stack which allows him more freedom with shuffles. That fifth disc alone is worth the price of the set. The SIX-HOUR MEMORIZED DECK by Martin Joyal is a brilliant resource for mem-deck work. OOP and highly sought-after. Not only on his personal deck(s) but a historical view of them.

[@tommarquette9706]

As I recall Mr Aronson built some of the stack around Mr Close's construction . Need to reread that section

[@EruditeMagic]

Interesting - I don't quite recall! Let me know what we find

[@MexieMex]

I've put a lot of work into Mnemonica, but I'm still considering swapping to the Redford stack. Both these books are really intersting.

[@EduardoCoffman]

Did you ever try to order mnemonica from a new order deck? If you do it, you will see that Tamariz didnt shuffle it randomly. It has a mathematical procedure.

[@Ablofluido]

The triumph in here is probably the best I've ever seen!

[@EruditeMagic]

Which one? I believe there are two...🤔

[@Ablofluido]

@@EruditeMagic Yes, both are great but it's the poker triumph that I like most!

[@Ablofluido]

By the way, I bought Approaching Magic because of your review - so cheers!

[@EruditeMagic]

Hope you love it as much as I do!! 😃

[@rubenlie8207]

Order these a month ago.They are almost here! :D

[@EruditeMagic]

Awesome - hope you love them!

[@pyratemage]

Excellent review, thank you! As a beginner, I am still thinking about purchasing it as an investment.

[@EruditeMagic]

You're welcome - thanks for watching! Good luck with your decision 👍

[@AlecSchraegle]

Great review, looking forward to checking out Patrick’s latest work. Redford books seem to fly a bit under the radar, which is surprising because he has really solid teachings within the pages. Check out his recent interviews with the Penguin podcast and Murphy’s KZbin channel, he is a genuinely nice and well informed individual.

[@EruditeMagic]

💯 - totally! Thanks for sharing

[@shadowpest44]

Also check out the nearly 3 hour interview with George/Patrick on Craig Petty’s channel.

[@AlecSchraegle]

@@shadowpest44 thanks, I’ll check that out!

[@TheSeventhSelf]

Congrats on the big 1000, wishing you much success, nice review👍🏻

[@EruditeMagic]

Appreciate it. Thanks for watching and being an Erudite subscriber! 😃

[@DavidUng]

I've been floundering with Mnemonica for years and haven't done anything with it. But I may learn a new stack and see where that takes me. Redford stack sounds very practical with all the thought he has put into it. Are you familiar with Woody Aragon's stack and if so, comment on differences?

[@EruditeMagic]

I'm not intimately familiar with Woody's stack, but perhaps Patrick will stop by and comment

[@SpencerRaybourne]

I am just now, for the very first time, memorizing a stack-- rhymes with Mnemonica. I am in the process of being completely gob smacked by what can be done with a memdeck. Are you aware of the Bob Farmer work on memdeck?

[@EruditeMagic]

Just a tiny bit. What are you looking at specifically with Mr. Farmer? Good for you, BTW!

[@jonahberg9280]

If I wanted an easy memorized deck that’s still fooling what do you reccomend

[@EruditeMagic]

It depends on your use case. I don't pretend that a memdack is easy. If you are looking for easy, I would stick with a cyclical stack like Si Stebbins. But a cyclical stack will never rival a memdek in terms of what it can do

[@jakeaustin5197]

Shame on you for implying that the Aronson Stack was not intentional and may have arisen through random shuffling! Cut the deck so the 6H is on top and the 10H is on bottom. Deal out five poker hands (fifth to yourself) and tell me that wasn’t intentional. ;)

[@EruditeMagic]

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