Sleuth - Before & After (1972 Original vs 2007 Remake) | Video Essay

[@springsogourne]

The original Sleuth is now posted on KZbin, so you can see it here! It was up as of 2/5/22. Brilliant movie, a must see.

[@legal_eagle1849]

i totally agree...the original is a part of my youth whereas I never really got into Kenneth Branagh's work

[@HuntingViolets]

@@legal_eagle1849 I was really looking forward to Caine in the other role, something that seemed almost inevitable, but the film disappointed me. _Deathtrap_ will have to do.

[@FlorianFullStop]

I love the mental image of a post modernist Micheal Caine chilling on his spiky chair in his very spacious living room :P great vid

[@HizzyHay]

Will definitely have to check these films out. I love young (and old) Michael Caine. You're definitely right a good production designer makes you not even think someone was behind all of this because it looks so spectacular, really liked the choice of films that you referenced at the start.

[@Jomchen]

Fantastic vid. Very entertaining, informative and incredible presentation!

[@kenowens9021]

Nothing beats the legendary and great actors in the first Sleuth. There are no actors today that come close to their perfection of the art of acting.

[@JinlongTheGoldenDragon]

Man you deserve a lot more subs. Never watched sleuth but I was hooked the whole way. Great points

[@zionconnor7090]

I know it's kind of off topic but does anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online?

[@casenanson2584]

@Zion Connor Flixportal

[@zionconnor7090]

@Casen Anson thank you, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I really appreciate it!

[@casenanson2584]

@Zion Connor Happy to help :)

[@evilqueenyiayia]

My grandson watched the original Sleuth, on YT. I was surprised, he loved it. It's been one of my favorites. ❤

[@lillymsf5946]

Sleuth was one of my all time everlasting faves of my youth, my dad showed it to me when i was a young teen and i'm 20 now and a supreme theatre lover at best. So it comes as no surprise that when i watched the remake i was quite put off by its choices. I mean the modern take was a given and i am pleased to see Caine filling Olivier's shoes as well as Jude Law doing a fantastic Milo, i was however disappointed by the total detour it took from the original script. I won't spoil anything but for those who have seen both versions will know exactly what i mean. Also not to defecate on Brannagh too much, i just wasn't a fan of his direction. I rlly wanna put this one stage again one day, mostly with the characteristics of the first version - it had so much charm and wit that you just don't get in movies today. I do appreciate your analysis tho dude, i never thought of the house in the 2007 version as a stage, it makes a lot more sense from a third party's POV.

[@HuntingViolets]

I like some of Branagh's movies, but I have been unhappy with the Poirots and his version of _Sleuth_ (that's partly down to Pinter's script; this is a story you could remake multiple times with close to the same script). I often think I'd like to try doing this with one or more of the genders changed.

[@deadasjuliuscaesar]

An extremely well-presented vid. You were prepared, took your time, and did the editing right on point. The 1972 version is one of my all-time favorites, with 2 magnificent performances that keep it forever watchable even after the 'surprises' are known. Post-modern isn't really my thing, so Olivier's country house would be my choice over Caine's, and the remake overall really disappointed me; it felt a tad too rushed. However, your analysis has given me a different view of it, so I might just give it another go.

[@rachelxkendra]

Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching!

[@bruceyanoshek626]

Excellent. You explain the differences without overdoing it. Unlike many remakes, it seems that this one has reasons for the changes it makes. I think I'd like to see it sometime.

[@Afterthoughts]

Great video ^___^ loved your use of music!

[@richardkennedy8481]

I just watched the original on KZbin. No commercials. I saw it when I was a kid. A great movie. I watched a few minutes of the remake.

[@brandonrebecek4321]

Love the variety of sources!

[@celiagallego4718]

Damn this video is a piece of art

[@monkeymanbob]

Interesting take. I've been a long time admirer of Sleuth and it's spiritual companion piece Deathtrap since they first aired on rainy Sundays when I was a kid and though Italian Job & Alfie are often feted as Caine's fan favourite film it was the performances in these 2 that secured me as a fan. Sleuth along with a number of other 70's classic (Stepford Wives too) were bought up as part of a deal by an oil company (iirc) and sit in a vault somewhere until either the right amount of money is offered or someone cares enough to make enough noise that someone thinks it's worth the PR to release them for a remaster.

[@raleighsmalls4653]

The first one. No contest. Now go watch The Dresser or The Ruling Class.

[@khursheedrind3232]

0:13 what movie is this scene from a guy with grey hair and a portrait of two women 😮

[@Filmbuf-g2k]

I've just watched the original last night on KZbin absolutely brilliant....not sure about watching the remake....I'm intrigued but I really enjoyed the original.....

[@christiananderson4909]

Yeah, the original is demonstrably in a league of it's own. I'm still stunned by the intricate complexity of that set. It must have taken a solid week to stage.

[@ivankaramasov]

Remember seeing the original when I was around 16 and being very impressed. Saw the remake about 35 years later and being slightly disappointed

[@springsogourne]

Can someone answer this mystery; there are several threads online about trying to figure out who sang the three Cole Porter songs in the original Sleuth. I’ve been looking into this for over 20 years and still do not know. The best I can guess is it was a singer from the studio, but no one knows. If you have any idea, please reply.

[@lillymsf5946]

Oh yea, my dad found a whole damn message board online FULL of ppl trying to find those songs but they are buried somewhere and they're still looking :/

[@NorthandClark]

Loved it.

[@HuntingViolets]

I have the VHS and the DVD, but before I got the DVD, I watched it on KZbin. It's still on KZbin as of 2024/03/07.

[@jetblack.7186]

How can you substitute Laurence Olivier.

[@TomSuntotheMax]

The 2007 version of Sleuth - I won't call it a remake - was just awful. It felt like the people making it didn't understand the original play at all. I was really surprised Michael Caine would even take part. There is only ONE version of Sleuth as far as I am concerned - the 1972 original.

[@rghvpandey]

Whose voiceover is it Rachel ma'am?

[@johnsmith8906]

Amazing video. I have to admit I was not much of a fan of the 2007 version, but love your video.

[@lukacunningham342]

You know you actually spoiled two of the twists saying that there is only two people in the two movies

[@rachelxkendra]

arguably that's true, but the two-person cast has been a conceit of the play since before it was ever made into a movie. also in the second act i'd say it's pretty obvious to the audience who is playing the new character. the fun of the second act isn't realizing who the new character is, but rather watching Wyke realize who the new character is.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

Alec Cawthorne was amazing in the 1972 film.

[@thefilmclassic4210]

Great Video! I really enjoy the original Sleuth but i have never seen the remake because of the bad reputation it has got. It really frustrates me that the original is so overlooked, but maybe one day people will get a cult-status. What do do you feel about the remake-is it worth watching?

[@rachelxkendra]

I enjoyed some of the ways the remake was staged, and seeing Michael Caine switch roles is very fun. There are good scenes, particularly in the first half, and I enjoyed the way they did the detective character in the second half. But on the whole I feel the remake doesn’t entirely hold together. Worth watching, but with the understanding that it’s very different and not as good. Thank you for watching the video! :)

[@lillymsf5946]

You know i recently saw Knives out for the first time and it acc pays homage to the original Sleuth - Plummer's character is basically Wyke and the opening shots of all the animatronics (including a sailor one which is SO Jolly Jack) is mirroring the shots from the original too. So i was quite pleased that some old-time movie lovers in the film industry didn't totally forget this masterpiece

[@thefilmclassic4210]

@@lillymsf5946 I agree:)

[@falkorornothing261]

I grew up with the old one. My dad has a great taste in movies. Just watched them both again. The second is quite disappointing compared to the first, but I'm glad they did it. I want more remakes from older movies. I'm trying to remember another movie with similar character tones and a twisty plot. It was about a once famous play writer who has hit a dry spell. It's got Christopher Reeves. I remember it being funnier than these two. 😂just remembered "death trap "

[@lukacunningham342]

Y’know, when I was reading an article of the play, I noticed that the person who will play Milo Tindle would also play Inspector Doppler, Sergeant Tarrant and Constable Higgs and I first thought that they would just appear one at a time to question Wyke about the murder as detectives like there is for other mystery novels. *MAN WAS I WRONG!?*

[@lillymsf5946]

This was a part of the spoilers Rick didn't wanna mention bro, it u haven't watched the film watch it now :D Don't worry u didn't spoil too much but you'll get it when u watch the original

[@HuntingViolets]

I know it's been a year, but you might want to spoiler tag this. SPOILER Like this.

[@maxmarkus6202]

Thank you for this video essay. The 1972 version is by far and away superior.

[@stuart5811]

I like the house in the 1972 version. it wasn't gaudy or tacky

[@g-r-a-e-m-e-]

I watched the Branagh version but found it silly, pointless, and makes no sense. You need to warm to characters in a movie, I did not. Just my two cents.

[@tonyscott1658]

The 1972 original was the best. The 2007 remake never should have been made.

[@lyinbobbycottonseed]

I really wish the new sleuth was as good as the first one. First one is an absolute classic. They really dropped the ball with the new one despite the amazing cast. Writing just wasn’t there. Not sure what happened with Harold Pinter there

[@plasticweapon]

0:00 okay, you lost me. YOU'RE NOT KUBRICK!

[@HuntingViolets]

The new house is so boring, although I do kind of like the scribble statue. I would have loved to have seen Caine in the same role as Olivier played. I get that people want to put their own spin on things, but sometimes I would like to see a remake that is just an old-fashioned remake, like going to the play again with different actors.

[@cydelegs]

I’ve just ordered the 70’s version on DVD, I probably could never watch the later version just because the setting and lighting presented in this vid is just so visually ugly to my eyes. But am very excited to see the old version for my first time.

[@raleighsmalls4653]

Or Under The Volcano.

[@McArenCorporation]

It seems I'm the only person here who liked the 2007 version more 😂

[@malcolmclements9254]

The remake was ghastly.

[@lillymsf5946]

I haaaaaated the direction DX sorry Kenneth Branagh but i'd stick to acting if i were u

[@ghostlightx9005]

I like the original the same amount as I dislike the remake.

[@lillymsf5946]

Yep omg the remake was tragic, no use of the original script whatsoever. And wth was up with that whole gay thing????

[@DAYHOMEONE]

Actually, I just watched the original on KZbin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/haqlmYmmitaZbMk I was greatly disappointed. It suffers from some of the same problems that many movies that began as stage plays suffer from. Dial M for Murder is one of the few that I like. I saw there was a remake. didn't know Caine was in it. Funny because it also bears strong similarities with another stage to cinema production Caine was a part of called Deathtrap which I think is more successful. Sleuth is laboriously long and less satisfying in its ending. Deathtrap is better in every respect.

[@Pyramids19]

A really bad remake in fact terrible