Slingshots in a Medieval Battle?

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Jörg Sprave pulls out a slingshot with a 2m draw that puts 20mm steel balls through ply wood.
Interestingly rubber could have been made in medieval times and this is clearly a seriously powerful weapon, so would they have used it?
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@Slingshotchannel
@Slingshotchannel 3 жыл бұрын
That was a fun day, and a great video!
@onewhowaits7674
@onewhowaits7674 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed 👍
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
HI Jorg, It was good to meet up at last and of course fun to shoot some stuff, so hopefully we can repeat it again some time and thanks for showing me the crazy long slingshot
@taekwondotime
@taekwondotime 3 жыл бұрын
I think if it were possible to have rubberized slingshots in the medieval period, I think the slingshot would have won out over the long bow just because a slingshot is faster and easier to use, plus you have ammo everywhere if you use rocks. The accuracy, distance, and damage would have been very similar to a bow and arrow from medieval times. We may have gone a long time before anyone invented a bow and arrow, or it may never have been invented.
@ericwilliams1659
@ericwilliams1659 3 жыл бұрын
How long until the rubber crossbow??
@thisisabsolutelystup
@thisisabsolutelystup 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you are enjoying the UK Joerg! Well, as much as you can at the moment.
@tmcthree
@tmcthree 3 жыл бұрын
4:24 "The aesthetics of destruction". If Tod and Jörg ever form a death metal band, we have a name.
@MyFriendsAreElectric
@MyFriendsAreElectric 3 жыл бұрын
Someone good with music software please make this happen! Replace snares with a gelatin slap :D Clearly need a narrative around making something to break stuff and samples of: "I don't know, let's find out" "Let me show you its features"
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great phrase and a great name for a band
@fuloling
@fuloling 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyFriendsAreElectric I'll love to hear some also
@hanelyp1
@hanelyp1 3 жыл бұрын
What would Bardcore Metal sound like? Steel string lutes?
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 3 жыл бұрын
@@hanelyp1 More like Electric Lutes! Now I've mentioned that, I want someone to make one so I can hear what it would sound like.
@GoldSabre
@GoldSabre 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the way Jörg pinches the pouch puts a twist in the rubber, so that after it's released, it untwists and puts a slight spin on the ball. DIY rifling lol
@rikulaatikainen1929
@rikulaatikainen1929 3 жыл бұрын
It's also much safer to shoot that way. I'm using it too. If you accidentally not keep your thumb in straight position (thumb under the ball), that will cause the speed bump effect. If you have low fork the ball can hit your hand or a fork. With a twist ball flies safely above the fork if you level up your thumb during the release. In target shooting it helps to get my hand more neutral position. I can use my thumb knuckle against corner of my mouth as a anchor point.
@daviddavidson2357
@daviddavidson2357 3 жыл бұрын
@@rikulaatikainen1929 This When I shot slingshots with a normal pinch grip I'd have shots hitting the fork occasionally. Twist grip however came right back at me and grazed my face once though.
@rikulaatikainen1929
@rikulaatikainen1929 3 жыл бұрын
@@daviddavidson2357 I'm using small pouches that are not big and saggy so projectile can exit more easily from the pouch. Return to sender shots are the ones I'm nervous when shooting darts. I mostly shoot 11mm steel with the heavy hunting band setups and I have once got a ricochet from the fork to my thumb. My thumb was sore for 1-2 weeks. Slingshots can be dangerous and I treat them with the respect.
@BytebroUK
@BytebroUK 3 жыл бұрын
Was watching a guy on his channel who practised pretty much every day with a sling for a year or so, until he could reliably hit a milk jug or small prey sized target most of the time. He said (I paraphrase) "I'm now at about the level of competency of a young child from the era when these were used regularly... Those people could use a sling well."
@crashrandall
@crashrandall 3 жыл бұрын
OK, now I want to see a homemade dandelion milk rubber slingshot
@kennethg9277
@kennethg9277 3 жыл бұрын
word
@simonrmerton
@simonrmerton 3 жыл бұрын
Try it.
@kennethg9277
@kennethg9277 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonrmerton Tbh that sounded quite aggressive 🤣
@simonrmerton
@simonrmerton 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethg9277 Oh dear.
@hyperboloidofonesheet1036
@hyperboloidofonesheet1036 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see how many dandelions it would take.
@tomyorke3412
@tomyorke3412 3 жыл бұрын
When a big German guy says hes into rubber and latex you need to run because things are going to get real kinky if you stay.
@manicoptio9305
@manicoptio9305 3 жыл бұрын
Chuckles
@DavidThomas-sv1tk
@DavidThomas-sv1tk 3 жыл бұрын
Rubber, latex and penetration.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThomas-sv1tk That would be Joerg+Matt, not Joerg+Tod
@valkoharja
@valkoharja 3 жыл бұрын
Run towards him you mean, I guess. Sounds like a party.
@ThunderLord1
@ThunderLord1 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThomas-sv1tk Also, destroying your target utterly.
@palomapalacios6036
@palomapalacios6036 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are going to love traditional Guatemalan slingshots! Medieval Europe might not have had rubber, but Mesoamericans were crafting all sorts of things from the material for centuries at the time: foot models & molds, custom rubber boots, waterproof cloaks, sandal soles, rubber bands, glue, stamps, rubber balls, & tons of other things. Sad that’s not really mentioned or portrayed in popular media when they’re talked about.
@davidpangelov3859
@davidpangelov3859 3 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty interesting. Is there any evidence or are there records about their use in war? A cuirass from a thick rubber that does not get degraded in the tropical weather of Central America seems very interesting, or a slingshot.
@aishashaw5885
@aishashaw5885 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a program about a Chinese triple crossbow that supposedly could send an arrow about 1.5 kilometers.
@edwardhaybell1938
@edwardhaybell1938 3 жыл бұрын
"I know rubber is your thing, and you know the Medieval world is mine" - Tod, 2021
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
Rubber is DEFINITELY Jorgs thing
@Atillatzke
@Atillatzke 3 жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshop you should shoot medieval armor with some rubber weapons :)
@ArbaletesduLimousin
@ArbaletesduLimousin 2 жыл бұрын
@@Atillatzke Shooting at medieval armor with a rubber powered crossbow : kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3qZo3RqeLidrM0
@kooroshrostami27
@kooroshrostami27 2 жыл бұрын
To each his own fetish! ❤️
@AccessAccess
@AccessAccess 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you can see the spinning effect in the slow-motion firing of the slingshot.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was interesting
@GeoffCostanza
@GeoffCostanza 3 жыл бұрын
"If you need something really powerful, you just put another rubber on it." - Joerg Sprave
@Ashtor1337
@Ashtor1337 3 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@oompalumpus699
@oompalumpus699 3 жыл бұрын
"Shoot it gangsta' style." Now I'm imagining medieval drive-bys with slingshots.
@operator8014
@operator8014 3 жыл бұрын
4 knaves riding along in a cart real slow. Band of minstrels spitting some mideival battly-rhyms. They roll down the canvas as they creep up on some unsuspecting peasant from some other lord... The rest is history.
@martins.4240
@martins.4240 3 жыл бұрын
Ride-by.
@adampalamara
@adampalamara 3 жыл бұрын
How about shooting some of your armor, Tod? Still got your soft armors, mail and brigandine?
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome, I'd love to see what kind of damage one of Jorg's slingshots would do to a helmet, as well as various body armors.
@MyFriendsAreElectric
@MyFriendsAreElectric 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Yes! Destructive testing!
@tambarlas5248
@tambarlas5248 3 жыл бұрын
And determine the velocity
@adampalamara
@adampalamara 3 жыл бұрын
@@tambarlas5248 Joerg did a "speed" test with this slingshot back in 2013 with something like a 50 to 60 gram steel ball with the intention of setting an kinetic energy record for a slingshot. Don't know how it's holding up, but he reached ~130 joules. Assuming similar performance, that would be a good ending point for destruction testing. Starting with stones of various hardness (limestone, granite), then lead, then anachronistic steel balls if nothing else gets us the desired smashing! What do you guys say?
@kyleheins
@kyleheins 3 жыл бұрын
@@adampalamara cast iron balls would make a good historic hard shot to test instead of steel.
@rikospostmodernlife
@rikospostmodernlife 3 жыл бұрын
* In medieval times * people could have mounted the slingshots in the inside of their shields
@chromarush1749
@chromarush1749 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing there is you'd need to make it possible to move your arm around on the other side of the shield. Which a design similar to the one in this video might not do so well. But perhaps doable.
@hell_march6652
@hell_march6652 3 жыл бұрын
@@chromarush1749 Center grip shield my friend. You can always add more rubber for a shorter draw. Also having a longer band would be more of a hindrance when not in use. Just cut a hole in the middle of the shield and have a sliding plate or hinged flap to cover the hole when not in use.
@jlasud
@jlasud 3 жыл бұрын
As a slinger: Slings can be much more powerful than a powerful slingshot that you can draw. Slinghots can be aimed,and are much much much easier to be accurate with. A powerful shot with a sling can reach 300-400J,wheres world record shots from a slingshot drawn with one hand, barely exceed 100 joules. Slings don't loose power in cold,like slingshots,but they truely need more space between slingers,than slingshotters. The spacing however ,I don't see it as a definite disadvantage,unless we're talking uppon a castle wall. In a open field,exposed to other missile troops,being spread out is an advantage. A sling is probably more durable than the rubberbands,unless you sling with jagged stones. Both have pros and cons,I use them both,love them both,but the power I can generate with slings has my total respect.
@washellwash1802
@washellwash1802 3 жыл бұрын
The drawback of slings is that your fire is harder to concentrate in one spot to take advantage of a weakness, create one, or break morale with the men all spread out. Having half your mates drop around you is more likely to have a unit start to route than scattered losses and injuries.
@angrypotato_fz
@angrypotato_fz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight!
@jlasud
@jlasud 3 жыл бұрын
@@washellwash1802 Kind of agree. Most effective skirmish tactic,that I had first hand experienced in reenactment battles was when I was a slinger among late roman infantry,which was chucking plumbatae volley,and as the enemy was holding their shields up,to protect from the plumbatae falling from a steep angle at 50 meters,I was slinging them flat with tomatoes to their legs,and they were jumping from the pain of tomatoes exploding on their legs. Now egg sized stones and up brake femurs,and all kinds of bones. A warrior in chainmail,helmet,and shield,sword, and with a broken leg,doesn't fight much lol.
@zzasdfwas
@zzasdfwas 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the slingshot can fire smaller ammo much faster, making it much more accurate and harder to dodge. You can also store a bag of ammo in your pocket.
@jlasud
@jlasud 3 жыл бұрын
@@zzasdfwas I can sling 2oz lead shot at 250 fps. I don't think anyone can dodge that. People standing next to me never see it go,I can see them zip,when I sling towards the light sky. I could put like 20 pieces in my pocket. Slingshot ammo is usually much lighter,than light sling ammo though.
@nudl3Zz
@nudl3Zz 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope you two make lots of videos together in the future! Really great chemistry
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so too! A great day
@ny5654
@ny5654 3 жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshop (I have been a Joerg fan for a while) I'd like more of a collaborative video where both parties learn from the other's experience, with a bit of competition.
@danielcroft2694
@danielcroft2694 3 жыл бұрын
As impractical as it would be... Now I really want to see Jörg shooting a full butterfly slingbow with 6+ foot arrows.
@enkerzan3755
@enkerzan3755 3 жыл бұрын
The steel ball is hitting the wood so hard that it sounds like a musket going off. Crazy.
@KageRyuu6
@KageRyuu6 3 жыл бұрын
The magic of video editing, that is to say all the videos of muskets or guns going off have had their volume reduced to make it safe for hearing, otherwise they could potentially get sued.
@vold2268
@vold2268 3 жыл бұрын
@@KageRyuu6 most likely,the noise is so loud you can't capture it with a camera
@joost1120
@joost1120 3 жыл бұрын
@@KageRyuu6 It isn't as if you can just capture the sound of a sperm whale click at 230db, play it back to someone and instantly rupture their ears. Both microphones and speakers have their limits. If you reach that limit, the sound "clips". The recorded sound doesn't get louder than it's limit, and the same goes for speakers. If you put a speaker to it's maximum volume and raise the gain on your input device, it doesn't go above the limit. Everything that was less loud than the limit would be louder than it was before, but not louder than the maximum volume it had before. A gunshot at 140db would sound just as loud as a sperm whale's 230db click on a recording.
@rsman23
@rsman23 3 жыл бұрын
1:22 I just imagine this guy in a zombie infestation holed up on the roof of a ball bearing factory with a box of elastic bands.
@huehuecoyotl2
@huehuecoyotl2 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the character 10K from Z Nation.
@Xoroxouselric
@Xoroxouselric 3 жыл бұрын
You and Jorg have to make a ballista together. It would fit perfectly with both of the channels. That would be so awesome!
@ologhai8559
@ologhai8559 3 жыл бұрын
"The Instant Balista... let me show its features... hahahaha"
@jacobnugent8159
@jacobnugent8159 3 жыл бұрын
No, a Roman repeating ballista that shoots pencils and is powered by a drill
@marz6770
@marz6770 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tod ! I love your work. I was wondering if you could make a video to talk about the type of wood used for shields or maybe other stuff in medieval times. There seem to be a lot of videos about different types of steel used for weapons, but even though wood surely was a big component of medieval warfare (shields, arrows, fortifications...), I don't recall anything on wood types (or how thick the different historical shields were, for example). It seems to me that your channel is the most relevant for this and I believe I'm not the only one who would love to see you cover the topic :)
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
I will be coming back to shields
@adambielen8996
@adambielen8996 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is absolutely worth a video. But the quick run down is that the best wood for shields is stuff with cross grain, Poplar is good example, and for things like spear shafts Ash was a popular choice in Europe.
@patrickgrippo2897
@patrickgrippo2897 3 жыл бұрын
Linden wood wassaid to be relatively shatter proof, for shields,in1066 a.d. ,
@Chasmodius
@Chasmodius 3 жыл бұрын
wha-BAMB! That's a sound. And the high-speed really shows well how the twist imparts rotation to the projectile. Very cool.
@Bjarkenb
@Bjarkenb 3 жыл бұрын
The crossover we all wanted is finally here!
@wittsullivan8130
@wittsullivan8130 3 жыл бұрын
Shooting guns, bows, slingshots, playing golf, baseball, any other sport requiring physical effort or dexterity, it's all about the satisfaction of handling something powerful and controlling it well enough to hit a target.
@suntiger745
@suntiger745 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that it used to be a vital survival skill, I'm not surprised it feels satisfying to shoot things accurately/skillfully.
@stalkingtiger777
@stalkingtiger777 3 жыл бұрын
I think there was a missed opportunity there to test slingshots vs medieval armor and shields. Also along with explosives channel to build a new slingshot cannon 2.0 that launches explosive shot. Still love the content, both of you build amazing things that I love watching.
@zaleost
@zaleost 3 жыл бұрын
Going by the number of holes on that board I can imagine that you've been having quite a lot of fun with that thing before you even started filming.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 3 жыл бұрын
I like the twist that they put in to the rubber to get the ball spinning. Also, the massive lump of cast iron they've got to hold the target in place. "The Aesthetic of Destruction!", Jörg sounds like he is channelling Werner Herzog. It is great to see Tod and Jörg having fun, discussing things they are both enthusiastic about, and sharing ideas. The photography for this episode was really cool too.
@Kanner111
@Kanner111 3 жыл бұрын
1) I feel like Joerg has worked very hard here to find something that is 100% in the wheelhouse of Tod's channel, and that speaks very highly of him. 2) I can't get the image of hundreds of hulking, heavily armoured Teutonic knights all lining up with War-Slingshots, and just how gloriously, hilarious silly that would have looked for the moment before they utterly obliterated whatever they were fighting. =D
@backonlazer791
@backonlazer791 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Jörg's ingenuity. The design is so simple yet extremely effective!
@ivanjednobiegowiec7656
@ivanjednobiegowiec7656 3 жыл бұрын
Damn... You can clearly say by only watching the way both Jörg and Tod draws that sling who can't just drop longbow drawing technique habit... Absolutely blastin' xD Cheers! I.
@stonedog9643
@stonedog9643 3 жыл бұрын
There is something so satisfyingly primal about shooting something.
@benoithudson7235
@benoithudson7235 3 жыл бұрын
The Maya had rubber, and they loved killing each other. Did they ever put those two passions together?
@Flummiification
@Flummiification 3 жыл бұрын
While Jörg may be the more entertaining or imposing figure, you really really can see the difference in the editing and filming that is much better here than in his videos. Also I love the different shooting styles they have.
@Daylon91
@Daylon91 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video guys and I love how humble Jőrg is. Humility is a very good trait to have
@blackhill6426
@blackhill6426 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to get hone and watch this . I’m increasingly getting into Slingshot shooting . I’d love to see Tod build a full sized Trebuchet though . A series of videos capturing the build would be fantastic .
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 3 жыл бұрын
Caerphilly castle, has a beauty, and a tripod balista crossbow. They give regular demos, firing into the mote :)
@blackhill6426
@blackhill6426 3 жыл бұрын
@@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 Ah great . Cheers Mark . I’ll have to take the other half when it’s open again 👍
@chromarush1749
@chromarush1749 3 жыл бұрын
I imaging some monk could've been tinkering around with dandelions in the garden and just whomped on rubber pretty easily. I think the only thing that might've held it back is making and shaping enough rubber to make mass amounts of them.
@Aliyah_666
@Aliyah_666 3 жыл бұрын
Dandelions are weeds I'm sure they had plenty I think its just the lack of knowledge in how rubber is made.
@ibrokemykeyboard
@ibrokemykeyboard 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of dozens of impacts on shields and helmets would be quite something to get used to.
@ledlebrgr5380
@ledlebrgr5380 3 жыл бұрын
No idea what I'm really saying, but I imagine all that extra noise could make it harder for the enemy to focus
@olekaarvaag9405
@olekaarvaag9405 3 жыл бұрын
The slow mo shots here are amazing! They look so clean and well lit, and the sound editing is really spot on. Love it!
@serpentsthoughts
@serpentsthoughts 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Slingshot Channel. Jörg has done some awesome work with slingshots
@olmostgudinaf8100
@olmostgudinaf8100 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Sadly, he does not make many slingshot videos nowadays. It's all instant legolases and crossbows.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
Jörg's laughter is priceless.
@firenter
@firenter 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine a medieval "Rubber Corps"? Rubber powered light artillery shooting large rocks to knock some heads Long range handheld small rock harrying squads Short range lead projectile squads for armour penetration This would definitely speed up the development of plate armour and possibly even slow the adoption of gunpowder for muskets etc.
@NathanCarr
@NathanCarr 3 жыл бұрын
now I want to read THAT military book series
@LeonEvans_Guyver1
@LeonEvans_Guyver1 3 жыл бұрын
"Medieval Rubber Corp" - title of the next Vivid Video release
@koticneutralftw7016
@koticneutralftw7016 2 жыл бұрын
I am now imagining a fictional history for a weapon system developed from Joerg's 2-meter slingshot over centuries.
@MajorButtons
@MajorButtons 3 жыл бұрын
dandelions were a common medicinal herb throughout Europe, and only came to America with the pioneers who cultivated it for its medicinal uses.
@dokstrange6891
@dokstrange6891 3 жыл бұрын
Also really tasty.
@Str4vv
@Str4vv 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the talk. Now I´m waiting for Tod to make a dandelion-rubber repeating plumbata slingshot that could have conquered the world :D
@Cheesepuff8
@Cheesepuff8 3 жыл бұрын
With the whole “could have made medieval rubber” thing, it’s so interesting how many things could have been made back then but didn’t think of it, proves human aren’t as good at thinking outside the box as some might think
@tomoyaogawa4485
@tomoyaogawa4485 3 жыл бұрын
I’m really loving having both of you guys in the same video! It’s just so fun!! Tod+Jörg = pure joy
@Eulemunin
@Eulemunin 3 жыл бұрын
Not just warfare, the mills of the day using this as a secondary power source for more efficient methods.
@frankrebind4483
@frankrebind4483 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent addendum. Just imagine the engineering uses of a material like this, god only knows what the great minds of their day could have come up with.
@wanderingwizard1361
@wanderingwizard1361 3 жыл бұрын
How would that work?
@Eulemunin
@Eulemunin 3 жыл бұрын
Well think about a simple trip hammer. The wheel is not used do to grip issues, so gear and pegs are the transmission mechanisms. Not efficient or smooth, but a rubber coated wheel?
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. Shock absorbers for carts, so fragile ceramics could be transported much easier, so glass etc would be cheaper and so on..
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 3 жыл бұрын
What I find very fascinating about this, is how the motion of pulling back the bands, causes a slight twist, which in turn imparts a gyroscopic spin onto the projectile, much like fletching on an arrow, or the rifling of a barrel.
@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am
@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am 3 жыл бұрын
1:37 Dayum, Jörg, that accuracy!
@plepgeat
@plepgeat 3 жыл бұрын
This is a DREAM collaboration!
@4TheWinQuinn
@4TheWinQuinn 3 жыл бұрын
That talk in the second half was really interesting
@QazwerDave
@QazwerDave 3 жыл бұрын
Joerg going off on the history of rubber, really shows he knows his stuff !!
@HeadCannonPrime
@HeadCannonPrime 3 жыл бұрын
The power stroke on that thing is increadible!
@Hdtjdjbszh
@Hdtjdjbszh 3 жыл бұрын
seeing Tod and Joerg togethor is like seeing two masters from different villiages. "you use a bow?!?!!!" "You use rubber!?!"
@stevephillips8719
@stevephillips8719 10 ай бұрын
Interesting piece of trivia: During the early days of WW1 soldiers were issued with giant slingshots to sling grenades from the safety of the trench. Natural latex was used as it worked better than the artificial rubber.
@larskjar
@larskjar 3 жыл бұрын
The most usefull thing to my mind is actually the little slingshot. Like plumbata you could equip every soldier with one, and thus have heavy infantry with withering firepower, without sacrificing formation like you would with a sling. Ammo is light, so just shoot like a madman.
@wpjohn91
@wpjohn91 3 жыл бұрын
U forget how big joerg is until he is placed next to avergae man.
@ravensnflies8167
@ravensnflies8167 3 жыл бұрын
this may very well be the collab video we have all needed. thanks guys and thanks community.
@invictus4050
@invictus4050 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed, but because of the way the arm moves in order to pull it back all the way for full power, the rubber bands twist on themselves. That means when the shooter lets go, the bands unwind from themselves, imparting spin on the ball like rifling to a bullet.
@schmojo33
@schmojo33 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Jorg, Tod, the first main blacksmith from Man at Arms, and Adam Savage together on a well funded series called "Creating Destruction".
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great idea and a great name
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames 3 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting seeing how Tod draws the slingshot, almost like how Joe Gibbs draws the longbow, swinging it up and drawing right away, like he's brought that knowledge to this and it is so fascinating to see that crossover of knowledge here. Meanwhile Joerg is just such a beast he just makes it look easy. It's really cool to see this crossover, I've been watching Joerg for years, so to see him here is so cool It is interesting to think about the implications of what Slingshots would have done in the medieval world. I feel like assassins would have adopted them pretty quickly, you could shoot someone up close in the same sort of range you might have used a pistol of that time, but silently. Or possibly contraptions for artillery similar to the style of Joerg's Smaug Perferator, shooting the big spears and such. Of course hunters would have loved to have something so compact for small game hunting. the possibilities are fascinating.
@Zakalwe-01
@Zakalwe-01 3 жыл бұрын
My God! I'd swear that broke the sound barrier as it left the plank!! 😲
@angrypotato_fz
@angrypotato_fz 3 жыл бұрын
At the beginning I realised Jorg was emitting bird chirping when speaking :D I appreciate the sound design for the slow mo bit! :) And thank you Tod for answering the question "What would they use for a rubber band?". Also, how did no one boil some dandelions, duh... (I imagined someone lucky enough to have an access to a library going through massive books, checking which flowers were already boiled and which were not...)
@stephenmalcome3797
@stephenmalcome3797 3 жыл бұрын
Joerg has great follow through with his shots
@kingjoe3rd
@kingjoe3rd 3 жыл бұрын
I love that they twist the sling once so it spins the ball for a rifling effect. Very neat features.
@howlinmad03
@howlinmad03 3 жыл бұрын
What amazes me is the fact that the steel ball is more elastic than the rubber...
@invadervim9037
@invadervim9037 3 жыл бұрын
Joerg is like the final boss of some insane JRPG.
@Ashtor1337
@Ashtor1337 3 жыл бұрын
He always shows up in my table top RPGs as a npc.
@vladdracul2379
@vladdracul2379 2 жыл бұрын
It never occurred to me how rubber is made. If they had someone stumble along rubber by accident, the world would have been completely different.
@knutzzl
@knutzzl 3 жыл бұрын
War-slingshot may not work but a hunting-slingshot is a good Idea
@paulpiche8370
@paulpiche8370 3 жыл бұрын
These two are my favorite KZbin friendship duo. I hope that the correspondence we see on KZbin is a small fraction of the hangout they get off the air.
@RuijsNL
@RuijsNL 3 жыл бұрын
I love how in the slowmo the balls just vanishes
@gazwit1603
@gazwit1603 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how awesome this is
@majormajorasic
@majormajorasic 3 жыл бұрын
Dandelion milk? FETCH THE DANDELION COWS!
@jamesw2855
@jamesw2855 3 жыл бұрын
I love Jörg and the slingshot channel
@vinniIainCook
@vinniIainCook 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard the sentence "if you practice, use less rubber" before
@nivedhaceaay3453
@nivedhaceaay3453 4 ай бұрын
Love that dude's laughter
@ArdentLion
@ArdentLion 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to see you guys collaborating!
@WvlfDarkfire
@WvlfDarkfire 3 жыл бұрын
Joerg Sprave kinks: rubber Tod Cutler kinks: medieval
@Gowaduv
@Gowaduv 3 жыл бұрын
I can see baskets of stones being thrown with one of those three-person waterballoon slingshots
@TitiniusAndronicus
@TitiniusAndronicus 3 жыл бұрын
Your slow-mos are like the onset of a trip.
@EIixir
@EIixir 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a deeper analysis of how rubber use in warfare would have changed the medieval world.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
It is a truly interesting thing and Ione I hadn't considered, but I thin the answer is exactly as I said at the end, but whatever the exact nature would be; who knows, but human ingenuity does mean it would have been nasty
@EIixir
@EIixir 3 жыл бұрын
@@tods_workshop I could possibly see Shad interested in this topic as he does fantasy crossover videos and the use of rubber would make a good twist on a fantasy medieval setting.
@axistec
@axistec 3 жыл бұрын
Mighty duo. I love every opportunity I get to see my two favourite KZbinrs
@BobT36
@BobT36 3 жыл бұрын
Heh those slo mo shots were like something from a movie. Glad you enjoyed yourself, Todd! Grinning from ear to ear. Can certainly imagine medieval skirmishers using those, they'd cause alsorts of havoc. Wonder if they'd go through curved shields just as easily as they blew through that flat ply? One downside of course though would be the European winter. They'd have to be a seasonal weapon by the sounds of it!
@miaouew
@miaouew 2 жыл бұрын
Best collab ever!
@sandbergmachineandtool6226
@sandbergmachineandtool6226 3 жыл бұрын
I sling traditionally and it took me 3 years to accurately hit things, and even then I still miss 2 out ten shots.
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight
@nilsniemeier5345
@nilsniemeier5345 3 жыл бұрын
Slightly bummed that Joerg didn't chuckle heartily and offer to show Tod his slingshot's features.
@joaob.almeida5176
@joaob.almeida5176 3 жыл бұрын
Make a ballista guys, with the ingenuity of your guys I'm sure something mean would come from it.
@suntiger745
@suntiger745 3 жыл бұрын
I think Jörg has already made a rubber ballista. It was one of his earliest projects as I recall.
@Underbottom.Sandydown
@Underbottom.Sandydown 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm efficacy - neighbors dog is no longer an issue.
@rinflame44
@rinflame44 3 жыл бұрын
One of the points raised to explain the disappearance of slingers is the fact that you cannot utilise a sling from fortifications. If you had rubber you could so it is likely it would survive way longer into the medieval period.
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 3 жыл бұрын
It's easy enough to use a staff sling from behind a wall. The problem is that it's a lot hard to hit something with a staff sling than a bow or crossbow.
@chrisfaucett7336
@chrisfaucett7336 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that he Gaines more accuracy because he inserts spin on the steel ball
@ArbaletesduLimousin
@ArbaletesduLimousin 3 жыл бұрын
There is many videos about that on my channel : rubber IS good for crossbows, but they need to use elastic rope, not flat rubber bands, and it will work very well ! Good film anyway, this slingshot shooting demonstration was interesting ! And the slo-mo footage is amazing !
@zebjensen4251
@zebjensen4251 3 жыл бұрын
This thing is better then most pre cartridge guns I've seen.
@garyseaman6105
@garyseaman6105 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys, most enjoyable and knowledgeable.
@mattlofgren1497
@mattlofgren1497 3 жыл бұрын
These collaboration videos are so great to see!! I already love and follow both of your channels so it is so cool to see you guys actually meet up and work together!
@joaoliduario
@joaoliduario 3 жыл бұрын
4:21 I don't know either. When I was a kid I loved shooting things with slingshots. I never killed anything. Once I shot at a big pigeon once, but I was so afraid of killing it that my shot bounced out of his wing(he didn't even move). I felt so guilty that I didn't shoot for months. Also one thing that I loved doing was knocking off mangos out of the tree with the sling. Delicious! The tree the pigeon was on was a "Jambolão" tree. I don't know how it is called in English.
@vold2268
@vold2268 3 жыл бұрын
That pigeon was in fact a terminator
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 3 жыл бұрын
Im just waiting for the day, that jorg, walks out, with a panzershrek! Converted to a slingshot cannon 😂😂😂
@ilikeyourname4807
@ilikeyourname4807 3 жыл бұрын
the green guy with the funny ears from the meme movie? Or do you mean a Panzerschreck? (means tank scare btw)
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilikeyourname4807 lol, ya das est gut, I know, im german, I just couldnt be arsed, to correct it :) hahaha
@sarnxero2628
@sarnxero2628 3 жыл бұрын
My fear would be the ball hitting one of the uprights and it coming back into my face.
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 3 жыл бұрын
You could construct it like a half tube, or a box tube missing one side.
@Horesmi
@Horesmi 2 жыл бұрын
The whole thing seems like it can be easily attached to a spear or any other polearm without adding any significant weight. So all of your infantry can do crazy ranged attacks without losing their melee capabilities. In fact a formation could unleash a volley and then immediately charge into the enemy.
@Sareth94
@Sareth94 3 жыл бұрын
I loved how you two had different shooting techniques with the braced slingshot. Jörg shot it like a modern compound bow - braced arm outstretched & then pulling the other back. You shot it more like you 'swung' into it, perhaps more like with a more traditional bow?
@tods_workshop
@tods_workshop 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice at the time, but I think you are right
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome slingshot and conversation!
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 3 жыл бұрын
I can just picture a similar but much bigger device with a trough for javelins. Have a couple of guys who pull the rubber back, someone puts in the javelin / arrow, steps back and the projectile flies.
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