BELLY BOW BATTLE! (with Jörg Sprave)

[@thomaszhang3101]

The craftsman dream team is coming to show us their features.

[@rockinHurley777]

@@justapotatogaming677 wtf are you going on about?

[@josh7783]

@@rockinHurley777 probably some kid who has no idea what he's doing

[@knifethrower9733]

@@rockinHurley777 He wants to see their features 🤣🤣

[@v.sandrone4268]

Jorge only has one power level....over the top.

[@fettmaneiii4439]

Jorge knows only 2 modes: Sleep and Destroy and he ain't wearing no pyjamas

[@krissteel4074]

I was kind of worried there for a while Tod was going to be flung somewhere over the top until he got through the initial power stroke of Jorg's bow

[@SymbioteMullet]

It's over... 9000?

[@Seelenschmiede]

MORE POWER! HOUHOUHOU!

[@rikospostmodernlife]

Ah yes, Jorge Správez

[@TheGiantRobot]

I would love to see a crossbow with Jorg's design sense and made by Tod with the technology and materials realistically available in medieval Europe.

[@tods_workshop]

That would be a great idea, but there are so many crazy things to make instead......20 shot arrow sabots for giant crossbows........etc

[@bologna3048]

@@tods_workshop that sounds insane lol

[@ricasteli]

@@tods_workshop an anti tank crossbow? This sounds fun. APDS bolts? Sounds like Jorge

[@peach8685]

@@tods_workshop now that I wanna see like a crossbow shotgun fleshet rounds

[@SymbioteMullet]

@@peach8685 a crossbow that shoots drones that launch knives.

[@andrewmartin3671]

9:28 "I wanted more power so I had to just take another one" - Joerg talking about neighbouring kingdoms.

[@bigsolidboss781]

That line goes well with the German accent.

[@antonius.martinus]

@@bigsolidboss781 Probably Hitler's words xD

[@MaxisGameplays]

bwahahahaha xD

[@alexanderkesterson6338]

Teacher i require se little polish boys desk too

[@Open-fi1zk]

"Now you lift it up, when you actually shoot it like a normal bow." gun noise.

[@commissarkordoshky219]

when you install too many mods and accidentally some conflict occurs in your skyrim game and all bows sound like guns now

[@daanwilmer]

Meanwhile it shoots more like an Instant Legolas than a normal pre-20th-century bow.

[@Daniel-yy3ty]

@@daanwilmer well, those are the norm now for him XD

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@daanwilmer But he said he wanted to be true to the crossbow so it had a lock. That is not at all like the IL :D

[@CowCommando]

Jorg: "But wouldn't it be possible to..." Tod: "Well they didn't have a Jorg Sprave did they."

[@muninrob]

"Jorge Sprave made one in his garage...... OUT OF SCRAPS!!!!!" "I'm not Jorge Sprave....."

[@aishashaw5885]

What can you do with a CO2 fire extinguisher for use as a power source?

[@zoolkhan]

@@aishashaw5885 stop! dont put ideas in his head. germany is not allowed to have devices on the same level als nukes

[@sealo97]

I love how these two guys who work in completely different interact with one another in such a mutually respectful way and just have a laugh

[@tods_workshop]

It is nice, but at the end of the day we both like to shoot interesting stuff

[@sealo97]

@@tods_workshop that’s why we all think the content you both make in so great!

[@davidatlas40]

@@tods_workshop I can definitely identify with that. I love to shoot interesting things as well, the next best thing is watching you guys shoot interesting things. Cheers

[@danocnl]

Jorg: "Serious kick" Slow mo Jorg: "Motionless and emotionless"

[@pinpetos]

Hahahah, I noticed that as well. His body had zero movement as a result of firing it.

[@REX-gq6ur]

Holy.... Joerg's Overkill Crossbow makes an echo

[@berndbernd3464]

"I had to use 2 bows cause i maxed out whats posible on one" Jörg channeling Gork and Mork!

[@commonpepe2270]

MOAR DAKKA!

[@patrickgrounds2157]

Waaaaaagh

[@johncherrybone4835]

Jörg as a warboss. The imperium would not stand a chance.

[@timbackman5915]

Even Yarrick would piss himself..

[@berndbernd3464]

@@timbackman5915 dont get ahead of yourself

[@TrevorDennis100]

That wonderful British understatement. 'Blimey'. Quietly spoken as the arrow goes through the target and both ends of the barn!

[@zoolkhan]

i have a 80lbs longbow.. and have now plenty of holes in my barn...

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

A dream collaboration - two ends of a spectrum, and both fantastic content creators.

[@tods_workshop]

Thanks and it was a fun day

[@Gilgamezsh72]

Well said Ian. Couldn't agree more.

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

@@tods_workshop I thought you were going to stab Jorg when you pulled out the crossbow bolt and he moved in. You know the majority of archery injuries is when you pull out the arrows.

[@kenmilne5987]

Can you imagine these two presenting themselves to an ancient King 2,000 years ago. "Your Highness, we may be of service to you"

[@0utcastAussie]

And THAT my friend was how the world was conquered !!

[@FrantisekPicifuk]

collab of the century! Lets see it's features!

[@D34DPO0L]

Joerg “Serious kick!” *As solid as a statue in replay*

[@CreeperKiller666]

There's an obvious difference, but I mean, that's sorta a given with over two millennia of technological progress. The original is very impressive for it's time!

[@tods_workshop]

Thanks

[@CreeperKiller666]

@@tods_workshop You're quite welcome! Keep making cool weapons and videos!

[@gibbeldon]

@@tods_workshop Haha, no need to be humble. It's a given.

[@Gn8Lif3]

when you shot a weapon and it makes everybody laugh and smile like a small child you know you done a good job

[@kanamisprs4330]

I want to see a Tod & Jorge Trebuchet collaboration. "Can we hit Calais with a dead cow? Let's find out".

[@taifunkchichris]

Jorge saying "let me show you it's features hahaha" as Todd slowly cranes the lifeless carcass of a belted Galloway into a mass of wood, rubber and steel re-enforcements would be quite a visual

[@vincentvt6229]

The First Trebuchet with a 20 Shot magazine and a firing rate of 2 cows/second

[@kanamisprs4330]

@@vincentvt6229 High capacity magazines might fall foul of current firearms regulations. Maybe a 5 round stripper clip would be ok.

[@divinesoul23]

I had the same thought! A trebuchet collab would be AMAZING!!!

[@davidcottom7750]

Rubber powered of course here at the slingshot todd channel lol🤔

[@scottyman78]

brilliant! two youtube giants (well one giant and one slightly vertically challenged craftsman) talk about belly bows..! my day is complete and it's only 9 am! great stuff fellas.

[@wierdalien1]

I dont think Tod is short

[@scottyman78]

@@wierdalien1 hahah, who said he was? it just when standing next to the Teutonic man-mountain any mere mortal would appear "challenged" in the size dept..

[@yeetmcmeat]

Joerg is a genius, honestly. in everything he makes its obvious he thinks about every single part and aspect of a weapon when he makes something. great vid Tod.

[@Squad23jta]

I can imagine we get a 1100lb multi shot elephant killing crossbow with red dot and laser aiming...of course made tastefully in original medieval style.

[@ologhai8559]

Bellygolas

[@jesusoftheapes]

a portable trebuce that fires steel ball bearing at 300 fps or more . Like a tiny version you can carry around . That is what you should make and of course a rubber banded Ballista .

[@berndbernd3464]

I want a Jörg isekai anime where hes send to the middle ages! Sadly theres no truck big enough that could send Jörg off.

[@crystianvasconcelos1951]

Kkkkkk this is gold my friend

[@gigaslave]

It'd need to be a heavy industrial mining ore carrier truck-kun that isekais Jorg off

[@ITBEurgava]

He isekai'd the truck.

[@justskip4595]

How about making modernized Trebuchet with Jörg? Also fantastic to see two great craftsmen together.

[@zep4814]

Maybe Jörg and Todd should make a pommel-pummler together. Jörg makes slingshots, Todd makes crossbows and swords, nobody else could make medieval artillery that could end one rightly.

[@Sk0lzky]

Coil spring pommel launcher

[@garyseaman6105]

I wondered when the excellent ancient bowmaker Tod and the excellent thought out modern bow maker Jörg would meet. Looking forward to the joint project. Thanks guys.

[@derekk.2263]

I feel like this thing is intended to be used from fortifications. You reload behind a wall and then rest it on a loophole or battlement and hold the handles with both hands to aim.

[@anderbarongonzalez3356]

The day these two come into the shop together, we'll end up having a self-loading, repeating siege ballista with exchangeable magazines that is able to pierce through aircraft. And we'll love it.

[@stephena1196]

Someone has shot down a helicopter with a homemade crossbow made from car leaf spring. Was mentioned in TV programme years ago: troops were sent to protect oil company staff from locals. Trying to look up where it was (I thought in happened in Indonesia) apparently from an excerpt from her soon-to-be published memoir: USO Girl in Vietnam by Suzanne Cogan it had also happened in Vietnam.

[@LarryGarfieldCrell]

This is what happens when two mad scientists hang out together. Glorious, isn't it?

[@derickwilliams2195]

Thank you gents for sharing and this was a true joy to watch. Looking forward to that combined effort. Take care and God Bless. 💖

[@Alastair510]

"let me show its features" Ultimate power! This model, I call the Gillette. Four compound bows combined!

[@1asd2gfd]

Watching Tod and Jorg I have learned so so so very much.

[@Obi-WanKannabis]

The mad engineer meets the virtuoso craftsman

[@euansmith3699]

4:03 Jorg fires an unfamiliar weapon and doesn't even blink, let alone flinch. I like the elbump at the end; I wonder if that will survive as a replacement for shaking hands once Covid is a fading memory?

[@RyanRyzzo]

"LET MI SCHÖU JU ITS FIITSCHÜRZ! HA HA HA!" :D awesome

[@proscriptus]

I think "mad genius" would be a fair description of Joerg.

[@aureliusrusticus2320]

Regarding which weapon you guys should make together: a siege engine of some kind would do just nicely.

[@thor498]

I love you two collaborating! And you can see what a monster of a man jörg is. This man could compete with a lot of strongman easily

[@peterwall8191]

I am left speechless. How lucky can we get ? Tod and Jorge together IRL, agreeing to make a weapon together? I have no words.

[@terrencebeers7105]

The two of you together makes for twice the fun.

[@Miki112xD]

Tod: How would it be made by historical people with historical context and mindset. Joerg: I JUST GOT 4 BOWS THAT I BUFFED TO THEIR LIMITS AND 600 HP DIESEL ENGINE HOOKED TO THAT WITH 5 THOUSAND ARROWS IN DETACHABLE MAGAZINE! LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES.

[@stevenkobb156]

Super cool and creative. Finally, a use for my belly. A collaboration would be great.

[@ivan55599]

Fun fact: finnish hunters used to shoot on the hip "very accurately" until at least 1798-99, described by italian Giuseppe Acerbi.

[@LaughingMan44]

@@grigorsamsa6564 if you practice a lot MAYBE it's accurate, but it's a very stupid way to shoot and is inherently inaccurate and offers no advantages over instinctive shooting while shouldering

[@Scout887]

@@LaughingMan44 Yes, to be able to shoulder a weapon and aim with it, is an overlooked feature. Its no wonder that handgonnes were not revolutionary in warfare even though they were more powerful than bows and crossbows, only with the later invention of the arquebus, which you can shoulder and give aimed fire, battles began to change drastically.

[@LaughingMan44]

@@Scout887 Pistols/handguns of that period were not necessarily more "powerful" than crossbows and, say, longbows: within 10 meters perhaps, but the velocity of such handgun projectiles would have dropped dramatically and quickly. Arquebus not only were powerful, they had far better effective range of the handguns.

[@MrEsphoenix]

I mean, gun slingers shot from the hip. There are still competitions where they need to shoot guns as fast and accurate as possible from the hip, so it can be done with training. It'll never be quite as accurate, but I guess you learn through muscle memory.

[@LaughingMan44]

@@MrEsphoenix can be done =/= practical or logical

[@mynameismin3]

Jörg Sprave is a true legend of our community. I love him and his content!

[@alexanderbertisch6328]

Hi tod. Could you covere rock slings again, maybe a long vs short, light vs heavy, glandes vs stones, etc.

[@bravenewworld5200]

I like jörg's laugh . Especially when he's talking about powerful the weapon is lol

[@salazar4810]

"what should we do together?" easy... make repeating balista...

[@SuperDominic4]

Full auto ballista

[@d4n4nable]

Rapid fire trebuchet.

[@nathanbrown8680]

@@SuperDominic4 It's been done. If I believed in reincarnation I would suspect that Dionysius of Alexandria was Georg Sprave in a past life.

[@user-ko3tv7jl2r]

Yes! Repeating balista!

[@adambielen8996]

Yes

[@A._is_for]

I'd love to see Todd and Joerg sketch a dream weapon they'll build over beers...the further the video drags on the more features get thrown on

[@Voicelet]

Jorg's sounds like a gun, not that I've ever heard real gunfire though.

[@stefantom4]

Ive heard real gunfire, and it does haha

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

@@HeliophobicRiverman Agreed very scary, be interesting to hear what just the bow sounded like shooting a more distant target...

[@VK-sz4it]

That's freaking ballista

[@GrandDungeonDad]

I hope someone makes this thing it’s wicked powerful and you don’t need a cocking device other than your body

[@p7outdoors297]

Trust me, it does

[@ericstoever9577]

That was Fantastic! Can’t wait for the cooperative weapon!

[@ZemplinTemplar]

Jörg's hi-tech gastraphetes sounds almost like a rifle while shooting ! :-O

[@cheyannei5983]

I'd like to see you guys tackle a torsion weapon. It's one of those energy storage systems that completely died out between your eras, so a modern revival take on it would be neat.

[@gervasiocampana6217]

Combine Tod's skill with medieval implements with Jörg's penchant for P O W E R, and make a ballista

[@APV878]

So glad you both got to finally meet and hang out, that was great! I do also hope this will become a regular thing.

[@dithaingampanmei]

Zeus's lightning bolt. I'm imagining an elite squad of gastrophetes archers in a fantasy setting.

[@mattfick5502]

It's so fun seeing you two hanging out and nerding over weapons. Can't wait to see what else you both make

[@JuliusCaminus]

How about this for your collaborative weapon: A spear that can launch its own head.

[@ikad5229]

If you can lauch the spearhead a few meters and then retract it and the head of the spear is placed again solidly, that my friend, is a fucking incredible weapon.

[@Ryzawa]

What a legendary collaboration with such a legendary concept.

[@goatmeal5241]

This may have been said elsewhere, but has Joerg considered using different cams which don't have such an abrupt fall-off? If you're using your weight to draw it, the draw force is pretty constant, and since he put a lock on it, it doesn't need to be so light at full draw. Also it looked awkward to have such a jerk downwards (and the rail almost jabbing one's stomach) when the resistance suddenly fell.

[@john-paulsilke893]

Agreed. This is a very small hole in his ethos of design. He’s a big strong guy, (I am as well so I definitely understand) and many of his designs reflect this rough and ready attitude. Also let us not forget he’s often making a quick and dirty tool/weapon.

[@solarissv777]

alternatively, adding a stirrup on the bottom of the contraption and some rubber bands could allow to use even stronger bow. Basically invest energy on pulling the bow back with your legs and back muscles, and retrieve it when pushing down (especially it would help on the initial stage of the string drawing). This solution would allow to have draw weight even higher, then shooter's own mass.

[@IIDASHII]

A bromance for the ages! You two should definitely collaborate on a repeating ballista.

[@danspawn85]

Just saw Joerg's Vid, then came here.

[@Stevarooni]

Two talented, accomplished people enjoying each other's company. You love to see it. 😊

[@Heroesflorian]

0:20 - missed opportunity to say "and today I have a Jörg Sprave here... let me show you his features"

[@Woodrow512]

What I admire most about Jörg is his creativity, the ammount of solutions he finds to adapt weapons and the ones he creates from scratch is absolutely insane

[@matthewhotston4287]

The JoergsTod machine ballista

[@Tipfehler]

Brilliant! MORE!

[@TheUberdude187]

When your two favourite channels do a inperson collaboration. Get in there, And you get to watch it twice lol.

[@IanSinclair77]

It's awesome to see how much both these guys respect the others domain. Many differences, yet they both appreciate and embrace it. I bet they hugged and shook hands off camera but didn't do so in the clip due to Covid and not wanting to set a bad example. Good move! Great guys, great channels.

[@kosata2202]

I would like to see some numbers for these: speed, arrow weight, range. Maybe you could make a video about that.

[@Taleton]

Joerg and Tod... You are both incredible! Thank you..

[@gallaros9]

This is truely wonderful. Once covid is over, we'll need a convention for all these wonderful craftsmen and historic KZbinrs, so we get a Megacollab

[@katerbiller04]

Anyone else picturing both Gents being sent back in time and opening their own smithy?

[@Catonius]

Hi, I'm Tod Cutlery from the Workshop & Tod's Cutlery Workshop & Workshop

[@chrisabraham8793]

Great to see my two favourites testing out great weapons. It would be interesting to see the rear handle of the Belly bow the other way round, acting as a stock to aim better, just to if it would be feasible.

[@FlinnGaidin]

For the collaboration: Trebuchet.

[@hrogarfyrninga3238]

Repeating Trebuchet

[@scottjackson1420]

When he said that it was made of two compound bows, I had a vision of it shooting two arrows at once!

[@WhoThisMonkey]

This is going to have a shed load of views by lunchtime.

[@abnurtharn2927]

1K at 1205

[@2ny424]

Two of my absolute favorite weapon makers showing off the goods, awesome video.

[@Direwolf13PS3]

In this episode a couple of craftsman compare bellies. Let me show you their features.

[@IllustriousCrocoduck]

One of the times where I will drop a like on both channels. Never stop, friends!

[@NevisYsbryd]

Joerg: Let me show you mine Tod: Yes, please Tod's wife: >:(

[@Gilbrae]

Thank you both for showing us these fantastic weapons with amazing and explosive features !

[@CognosSquare]

Joerg and Tod should bring back his "rowing machine" bow. But make one where you lie on the ground (small target) and shoot great distances with good aiming.

[@stoopingfalcon891]

Thing that amazed me most? Watching the slo mo shots being fired. Look how little energy of the shot is lost in the arrow/bolt flexing, as it would with something like a longbow.

[@christophercox5566]

Another very fun video to watch. I enjoy the differences in build and functionality...metal vs wood, future vs past. Each craftsman respectful of what the other creates...downright just fun all around watching weapon geeks do their thing and share with the community.

[@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive]

Tod and Jörg. It finally happened. I hope the universe can handle this. 💪😅

[@Bitteroyster]

imagine a beautifully made wooden crossbow with The mix of Jorg and Tods technology.

[@23Scadu]

I'd feel nervous with Jörg's bow, with the end coming up towards my face as I push down and those handles looking a tad shaky. Perhaps with slightly longer, connected levers?

[@mishellgagnon5771]

What a combination that would be: Tod and Jorg. We can't wait to see that some day.

[@zeekthegeek4538]

I love joerg but your camera and mike quality is so much better than his 😂

[@dommer6977]

Can’t wait to see you guys collab again and see what crazy and cool invention you make! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@will2777]

Tod: Look at this cool slide loading crossbow I made Jorg: Hold my beer... and its features

[@evropaheart]

your audio is so much cleaner. Thank you for not assaulting my ears with wind

[@talexanderlystad]

Collaborating at a social distance.

[@tods_workshop]

Sad fact at the mo

[@Eulemunin]

The two ends of the spectrum, old school by what we think we know and modern methods and materials using the idea. Lovely work gentleman.

[@LUCIAN8016]

Instat legooas, instant gastraphetes Next episode instant-trebuche-anti-catsle-minigun.

[@ShomyKajge]

You two epic guys should do one "instant Legolas" catapult! That would be fun! :D

[@raytheron]

Jörg and Tod in one video? That's a super treat. Can't wait to see what you two come up with together!

[@macstone9719]

The two luminaries of humanly powered ballistic weapons worldwide. To see them together in the first of hopefully more coops is simply great.

[@M0rganKane]

Epic collab! I love both these youtubers to death. Well-made episode which i greatly appreciated.