SLIP TEST - Toyota Yaris Cross vs GR Yaris - AWD-i vs GR Four -

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Toyota Yaris Cross 1.5 VVT-i e-CVT Hybrid AWD-i (2022)
vs
Toyota GR Yaris 1.6 MT GR FOUR (2021)
#duszaniespokojna #toyotayaris #gryaris

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

A few months ago we published the test of Toyota Yaris Cross AWD-i. During reading of comments and discussions on forums and groups we encountered many complaints about the test and "justifications" for the results. The allegations concerned primarily the participation of Suzuki brand in the test (because Yaris Cross was compared with Vitara). It was suggested that the test is manipulated cause Vitara was tested in front of a Suzuki showroom, cause we put thanks to the Suzuki dealer, cause there was a lot of space in front of the Vitara and not in front of Yaris... For information - Suzuki dealer shared the car - and that was the end of Suzuki's participation in the test. In the past Toyota dealer also shared a car (Rav4) - then we had put thanks to Toyota. There's nothing extraordinary about it. As for the justification of the results - first of all, it was argued that the Yaris Cross is not an offroad vehicle, what of course we fully agree with - but our tests have not much in common with offroad - so today we compare Yaris Cross with... GR Yaris. We therefore exclude any offroad factor and we exclude the participation of any other brand in the test. Two Toyota cars - two Yaris-es - and hopefully nobody will say that GR Yaris performs great cause it's an offroader... AWD-i vs GR-FOUR, enjoy!

[@seventhson3228]

Great to see GR Yaris. Of course, Cross is not off road vehicle, but to see that it has "trail" mode is hilarious. Keep up the good work.

[@scobikpoznan]

się nie tłumacz :)

[@toninocars]

Thank you so much 👌 This is the video I was waiting for. Great job as always 👍

[@51KTM51Hurricane]

Don't give haters a space. I'm a viewer of your videos for many years. And I never saw a fake one to Favorit a brand. Thank you for all your Videos and Work you and your team did. I'm a happy happy gr owner

[@theblitz1687]

more like "yaris dont cross"

[@An.Individual]

😄

[@Rich_123]

I've seen kids pedaling a bike put down more torque than the Yaris rear motor. It's helpless!

[@AlexandruCristianB]

Very poor performance of the Yaris Cross

[@cmdrratzass7305]

Well dang… now I want a GR Yaris even more. Still can’t afford it though. The performance of the Yaris Cross really matches it’s appearance. 😂

[@An.Individual]

The Yaris Cross has the worst performance I can remember.

[@duffyt26]

In the one-wheel-on-ground (last two) with the GR Yaris you need to apply a bit of brake manually to make the Torsen diff work properly. THat's why the car actually passes the tests with ESP/stability on (abs autobrakes = forces Torque to go to spinning wheel and it then passes the test) but not with esp off / expert mode. It's just how a mechanical LSD like Torsen works. When you know this it's completely unstoppable AND the GR Yaris can use both throttle and brake pedal at the same time without weird ECU warnings/errors like other normal cars. Rally is rally, you need to use the brake to pitch the nose into corners when going hard to shift weight, but also lock LSDs at times. / GR Yaris owner ^^

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Sure. But the point of the test is to check if the car can do it by itself.

[@toninocars]

Would be great to compare two Yaris cross, one awd and one fwd, the later will pass most of the tests with ease, the awd only make the things worse in this particular model.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

We are planning to do that 🙂

[@jungleguybest]

Thank you for the good videos. Are you going to test the latest sportage awd? And some chinese 4wd like changan and geely? Thanks

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Thanks. Sportage test coming next week! Changan and Geely - not available in my country.

[@jungleguybest]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks for the reply 😊🙏

[@suyuanxie8022]

It seems Yaris Cross is too weak.

[@AutoPRZEWODNIK]

Nie no, Toyota - rewelacja. Ale nie psuje się (głównie dlatego, że nie działa od początku :D)

[@ricric3025]

GR Four the win

[@AgentSmith911]

I'm guessing it's the electric motors that are too weak, like on a lot of the mild hybrids from Toyota? Regardless, it an interesting video, but I'd like to see a test with the rear wheels only on rollers, the Yaris Cross might handle that one better if it's FWD biased.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Difficult question. Lexus and Rav4 have much stronger rear electric motors but they have similar problems. Test with rear wheels on rollers - we didn't try but there should be no problems at all.

[@czarnykurczak]

W pierwszej chwili myślałem, że ktoś dał wam białego tojtoja ale zapomniał, że to ośka 😃

[@T.e.d.d.y.]

Niewiele się różni od ośki.

[@1wasinAlpha]

Yaris cross is a joke..., it looks cool though

[@kinderbueno819]

well yaris cross 4wd is a crossover of 33 K euro with electric motor regarding rear drive system and the yaris cross four is a race car of 55 - 65 k euro with real 4wd system with shaft. I think this comparison is not fair. Moreover, the yaris cross is just a normal yaris with higher distance from the ground and bigger body. All in all is not real 4wd cross over as the most cars out there with out a traditional mechanical 4wd with shafts.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@kinderbueno819 OK but non hybrid Yaris Cross has basically the same awd system as GR Yaris and other crossovers...

[@kinderbueno819]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I checked the official Toyota site and they are not offering a non hybrid yaris cross at least in Greece. If this is a global strategy of Toyota then the awd of hybrid yaris cross is overestimated and a tricky choice for the customers.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@kinderbueno819 That's correct, they are not offering it in UE. But they do for example in Japan. There's an article about it and about differences between these two awd systems on our Facebook profile and YT community tab.

[@tomaszwatras583]

Trzeba było sprawdzić Yaris Cross na jednej rolce na przedniej osi, ciekawe czy dałaby radę zjechać.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Jest tutaj: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJnbdH1-aZKorrM

[@T.e.d.d.y.]

Porównajcie z Crossem 2WD na jednej rolce.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@T.e.d.d.y. Jest taki plan.

[@51KTM51Hurricane]

looks like the electric motor was most of the time out because of the power price nowadays. Hybrids are here to help you safe money. success

[@sasacata]

Toyota's AWD in the Yaris Cross is pretty much useless. I dont understand why they advertise it as an AWD, when it doesn't even pass the front wheels on rollers test. Unbelievable.

[@gt7984]

Because people like to think their car is off-road capable, that's partially why they buy crossovers in the first place. In the end though, crossovers are just slightly lifted city cars with some plastic cladding so even if the AWD system was decent, it wouldn't go anywhere.

[@juanrecate5388]

Yaris (0), GR (10)

[@51KTM51Hurricane]

Hello Question GR without Torsion differential? If yes, would look the last test a bit different? Thank you for your work 🙏🏽👍🏽

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Hello, GR was equipped with two torsen differentials.

[@pablomoreno1999]

I said it before and i will again, a 15hp motor is already twice as powerful and there are lawn mowers more powerful...what's the point of an awd if it doesn't drive all the wheela

[@xxlalbatross3287]

Does the corolla cross have the same bad results as the yaris cross ? I think It's have stronger rear motor which maybe make it's better?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Yes, Corolla Cross has stronger rear motor so result may be different but we didn't test it yet.

[@xxlalbatross3287]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers WOW. thanks for your quick answer. How about mercedes V-class 4matic. Is it a good alternative to its competitors? What you think?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@xxlalbatross3287 Unfortunately I don't know, I wasn't checking that class of the cars.

[@xxlalbatross3287]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok.i hope you can test same day.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@xxlalbatross3287 I hope that to, all up to volunteers 👍

[@leighhaynes]

You do see some strange behaviour on the Yaris Cross; with wheels not even turning when on the rollers. I wonder if some of this is software logic problems in addition to the weak motor. Perhaps the "intelligent" AWD sensors are getting confused by the zero friction scenarios. I think the Snow mode only dampens acceleration , so it is a less responsive Normal. I don't think it changes the AWD operation.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

That's actually not zero friction scenario. Rollers, especially under load do have resistance - much higher than a wheel hanging in the air (what you can face even in light offroad conditions). Snow mode indeed doesn't change the awd system operation, I didn't notice any major change in TC operation to.

[@botttt-s2e]

Здравствуйте Сравнение Toyota Yaris GR с Suzuki Vitara 1.4

[@scobikpoznan]

mazdowe awd jest bardzo-takie-sobie, niezaleznie od tego, w jaki brand się je ubierze ;)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Tu nie ma żadnego mazdowego awd.

[@TVCHLORD]

gr yaris driver kept cheating and turning the wheel, the yaris cross is a vehicle that shouldnt exist

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

No cheating: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWLQdqSvip5-etE

[@kordaxmint533]

Lol... compare it to Volvo S60 Cross Country or any other Volvo... not even comparable.

[@KirillShipilov]

Позор Тойота

[@Chargerer]

Yaris Cross has 7kW electric engine at the rear axle. Thats nothing and pretty much useless.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It's 3.9 kW.

[@Chargerer]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yeah, sorry, you are right...so even worse

[@Dzalesin]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Not bad offroad geometry and 3.9kw only? Toyota laughing at the customers 😊😉!!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Dzalesin In theory rear axle can put ~500 Nm to the ground. But we can't see that in the test...

[@Dzalesin]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Even if have enough moment, but don't work? Toyota is really laughing🤗!

[@viktor4533]

Yaris gr have 3 torsen?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Two, front and rear.

[@phg4977]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers only the curcuit pack / high performance pack of the GRY has LSD on the axles. all have a clutch type differential in the middle. the rear axle is 1% shorter geared than the front one. therefor it can use torque at every single wheel.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@phg4977 My answer concerned the car from the test which was equipped with circuit pack. When it comes to structure of awd system - here's my detailed video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqe7pqWvlt53pJY

[@吉村克洋]

Interesting.....YarisCross is a completely fake SUV...

[@3domas]

very interesting, and very dissapinting for cross there is something called mild hybrid, maybe we will have mild awd too? 😂 and with tests long like this you can even damage bearings in rollers - be careful :D

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Actually it should be called mild awd. When it comes to bearings - it's not that bad, rear wheels are barely spinning 😉

[@tangolima86]

the Yaris Cross awd-i is a fake four-wheel drive with high purchase costs ... not really worth it ..... The GR instead is a small rocket !!!!

[@tomekkat6081]

Ten cross to po prostu 2wd, cztli naciąganie klienta aby kupić pseudo 4x4

[@magabrysiak]

Nie rozumiem. Yaris cros w terenie daje radę, a na rolkach nie! Tak samo testy crv 4. W praktyce działa, na rolkach nie? 😂

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Nie widziałem żadnego testu w terenie, gdzie hybrydowy Yaris Cross AWD daje radę. Większość z nich to teren do przejechania każdym wyższym 2WD. Jak coś masz - podlinkuj. Widziałem natomiast testy zimowe, gdzie nie daje rady w podobny sposób, jak na rolkach. Co do crv4 - lichy tylny dyfer i tyle, do tego w sześciu wersjach. Porównaj go z dyfrem z crv3. Ktoś w naszym kraju robił eksperyment, ile tylna oś uciągnie - jeśli mnie pamięć nie myli, było to ~50 kg.

[@magabrysiak]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers mam crv 4. I według mnie jest ok. To nie auto terenowe. A napęd pomaga.kzbin.info/www/bejne/opi3e4ikgLqmY80

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@magabrysiak Nie bardzo wiem, co ma pokazać Twój link. W opisie widzę, że skrzynia AT, ta wersja wypada lepiej niż MT, ale nadal nijak w porównaniu z konkurencją. Wiadomo, że każde Nm przyłożone do tylnej osi pomogą i będzie przewaga nad 2WD, ale tu nie chodzi o 2WD vs 4WD, tylko o porównanie różnych napędów na cztery koła.

[@T.e.d.d.y.]

@@magabrysiak Nie daje rady w terenie, ten napęd poddaję się przy kawałku zaśnieżonej górki: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ7Yc3V3mrVlfZo

[@1071Halil1453]

Yaris in awd sistemi çok kötü . Gerçek bir 4×4 değil. Awd sistemlerinde başarılı subaru dur ve quattro sistemidir. Gerisi beş para etmez

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

There is much more great AWD systems, not only Audi and Subaru.

[@1071Halil1453]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks bro

[@1071Halil1453]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers bunlar neler üstadım?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@1071Halil1453 Jeep, Suzuki, Nissan, Volvo, recently even Kia. They are all very capable.

[@toninocars]

Yaris cross in fwd has great off road capabilities, better than this”awd” joke. There are videos from Greece .

[@wilfredovalle8096]

I

[@MrRonson71]

Attendo anche una prova comparativa con un Defender … video inutile !!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

A few months ago we published the test of Toyota Yaris Cross AWD-i. During reading of comments and discussions on forums and groups we encountered many complaints about the test and "justifications" for the results. The allegations concerned primarily the participation of Suzuki brand in the test (because Yaris Cross was compared with Vitara). It was suggested that the test is manipulated cause Vitara was tested in front of a Suzuki showroom, cause we put thanks to the Suzuki dealer, cause there was a lot of space in front of the Vitara and not in front of Yaris... For information - Suzuki dealer shared the car - and that was the end of Suzuki's participation in the test. In the past Toyota dealer also shared a car (Rav4) - then we had put thanks to Toyota. There's nothing extraordinary about it. As for the justification of the results - first of all, it was argued that the Yaris Cross is not an offroad vehicle, what of course we fully agree with - but our tests have not much in common with offroad - so today we compare Yaris Cross with... GR Yaris. We therefore exclude any offroad factor and we exclude the participation of any other brand in the test. Two Toyota cars - two Yaris-es - and hopefully nobody will say that GR Yaris performs great cause it's an offroader.