Slotting head

Slotting head repairs

[@bruceanderson9461]

I am restoring a 1929 steam powered popcorn wagon on a 1929 Chevrolet truck. It was in daily use until 1985. Every part of it is like your slotting head - full of unwanted surprises. I know your sinking feeling as you disassemble your slotting head and discover how someone with little knowledge, skill and tools tried to fix something. The good thing is we can fix things!

[@LaLaLand.Germany]

I´d for shure like to see that. "Steam powered popcorn wagon" reads like straight off a childs mind. I have to see that. Wish You well, that thing would be the star of all oldtimer meetings.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

That would be an interesting item to see working . Cheers 👍

[@sergeantpeppers8858]

This video just shows how it actually is working in a shop. You'll find little surprises in everything you try to repair. Great video.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

You are not wrong there ! Cheers 👍

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

I see our friend Bubba been visiting the southern hemisphere.. Enjoyed the proper use of colorful mechanical terminology...Thanks for sharing Max. See you in next part, Cheers...

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

He must have came for the warmer weather . I sent him packing back to Harold ! 👍

[@jayminor9757]

I’d call your state in this video, “Up to your arse in alligators.’’ The whole saying goes, “It’s hard to keep in mind that you just set out to drain the swamp, when you’re up to your arse in alligators.” Good luck with the swamp max. Always enjoy your videos.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol . Work through one issue at a time ! Cheers 👍

[@StuartsShed]

The world would be a better place if we could just prevent hand tools getting into the possession of these neanderthals. I just bought a knee mill - and the idle shaft on the belt drive is bent - just like the armature in your video. Exactly what goes through the minds of these gorillas is beyond me. Really enjoyed the clear presentation of the straightening approach. 👍👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , thanks . 👍

[@joell439]

Great VLOG of 'A day in the life at The Swan Valley Machine Shop'. Always exciting and interesting. Thanks for all the lessons on how to straighten a motor shaft.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . Their are good days sometimes ! 👍

[@paulrayner4514]

just goes to show you never know what you are buying till you start taking it to bits. that goes for a lot of new machinery too!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

That is for sure , even when it is bought from another machine shop ! 👍

[@mdlanor5414]

Excellent job at straightening out the armature shaft. Straightening out any shaft is never an easy job.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@terrycannon570]

Some days you are the bat and some days you are the ball. Either way you hit a home run with this one.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , i always seem to be the ball ! 👍

[@terrycannon570]

@@swanvalleymachineshop lol

[@mhc6777]

Thanks Max, It's good to watch experienced machinists who know what they're doing - even when they don't know what needs to be done until they start doing what they thought needed to be done.... I think... :)

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@ShadonHKW]

Neat bearing puller, I didn't know anything like that existed.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks Stan . We have had this one since the early 70's . There are a lot of copy's now days but Sykes Pickavant are the real deal . 👍

[@ianmoone2359]

Another great video Max. Never saw us going down that particular rabbit hole at the start - but like any good Jack Russel , chasing rabbits down rabbit burrow holes is what we are born for. Not gonna lie, while all these “deviations from the plan” aren’t exactly what you had in mind for the day and video, they are actually highly instructive in how a sh!t show can be massaged back into just a sh!t sandwich with a little patience, the right approach and the right tools & equipment. It’s worth putting in the time & effort to get that “unknown quantity” slotting head up to a standard where it’s again useable & reliable for future projects. Every old machine you resurrect, increases the capability of your shop and what future projects you can tackle with what you have available. I’d say you likely have another year or two ahead of you yet licking all those old cast iron machines into acceptable shape, but with your skill set and equipment, that’s half the fun. There’s plenty of blokes would just rip out the check book and play merry hell with a big stick & break things buying new gear (me included occasionally), but we’ve all seen these ATGANFI (All The Gear & No Feckin Idea) come & go with regularity when they get their ambitions confused with their capabilities and go belly up. You won’t be one of those sad fools. Stick at it, each problem overcome is another step forward. 👍👍👍🇦🇺

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

One lotto win ! 👍

[@butchphillips873]

G,day Max, I took a double look when you showed the Sidchrome wall cabinet. And then you said it's been a long time since Cat used that logo on thier bolts and I said to myself "NO" .....but yeh it's been a while now. Love your work and that you share it with us. Cheers.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Their new style bolts are not as good , they have a much thinner head . 👍

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Talk about projects leading into more projects. This one is it.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Always the way Tom ! No dramas though . Cheers 👍

[@1crazypj]

They had one of those Sykes-Pickavant 'hydraulic' pullers at Honda dealers I worked at, didn't look very big but was 15 ton. Russ had it at max pressure trying to get flywheel off CX500. I came in through workshop door, pulled it closed and I guess vibration through floor was enough for it to 'let go'. Puller and flywheel went up in the air, over my head, bashed hole through ceiling then landed behind me. We were really lucky no one had their head over it (the three techs were a few minutes earlier) When using sealed bearings on motorcycle wheels, I used to remove 'inside' seal to reduce friction, outside one was left as an extra to keep grease off brakes. Those motor shafts are pressed into lamination's, spent a couple of years making electric motor parts, worst paying was single point turning cast iron 35mm bearing housings, best was machining welded up stators before they were wound, bad welds showed up pretty quick. Nice job straightening, half thou could be in the bearing?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Lol they should have left the nut on , just unscrewed a couple of turns ! I would have welded & re machine the shaft as a next option if it did not want to straighten . I have seen them pressed out before for replacement but have not done one myself . Cheers 👍

[@CarlPenney-ey9ou]

To keep your burr clean use candle wax it helps stop aluminum from sticking. I seen that on double boost channel. Cheers from Western 🇨🇦

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries , thanks . I will give that a go . 👍

[@plankroadworkshop]

Great video, fun to watch a skilled machinist solve problems. Actually very educational for us wanna be home shop guys.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@billdoodson4232]

And don't we all have jobs like this, the ones that just keep on giving? Nice repair to the shaft Max. Keith Fenner has a number of videos on flame straightening, which might be applicable in cases like this.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , they just keep giving ! Cheers 👍

[@AaronEngineering]

Morning Max. Sorry to see that pulley so flogged out. Love the old Sidchrome wall mounted toolbox.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Bit of a pain in the butt , should be able to save it . Cheers 👍

[@AaronEngineering]

@@swanvalleymachineshop I have no doubt that the right man for the job is on to it 👍

[@darrellbauer2464]

Love the tool cabinet Max. The slotting head is a great addition to the shop.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@wrstew1272]

But does it matter if it’s a good bull, or a spent worthless except for tough hamburger bull? At the beginning I saw something that I couldn’t help but comment on….before removing a heavy item, it’s always good to have a stable waist high surface to place it on. Learned that years ago, and forget every bleeding time I pull some dreadfully heavy anyfriggen thing off 😢. Every time! Not at work, just at home. Max, I am really enjoying this bang it out philosophy that you practice. Get Er Done a somewhat famous comedian here is famous for 😂. That is a fine puller! 😊

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@alanremington8500]

One step forward, two steps back ?? Good show !

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Always ! 👍

[@DudleyToolwright]

That was a very unique approach to shaft straightening. Always something new with your videos.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Rob . Lucky it was only 7/16 dia . 👍

[@hmw-ms3tx]

It turned into a real "Hole in the bucket dear Liza" situation. Unless you watched Sesame Street in the mid 1970's you might not get that reference. Ken

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol . I know the song and Sesame Street from the 70's !!! Cheers Ken 👍

[@DudleyToolwright]

I always thought one of those would be handy, but my mill is wedged in a corner of the shop and I doubt I could spin the head 180. Nice work as always.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , you need a bit of extra room with the rear attachment . Cheers Rob . 👍

[@piteralvarado1028]

Exelente mi amigo max tiempo sin ver tus videos has hecho muchas cosas en el taller y me contenta mucho que sigas en tus grandes proyectos dando vida a esas máquinas que tanto lo necesitan 👏👏🙏👍😊

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@gagasmancave8859]

I had the same double grub screw issue on my milling machines lower pully drive shaft took me a bit to realise why i could not tighten up the grubscrew lol😊

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

A trap if you have never come across it before . 👍

[@mcgama88]

As a day off with morning and a cold one, I find Max at a job, became more jobs but always, the best tolerance as measured. Thanks Max. A great start to my day as my builds are not so complex but where I have a shop and like to try for best fitment to sort out repair. Your shop seems more sorted out and busy. I find some of your scribe results as great methods. I rea||y enjoy your posts. M.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@kelvinweeding7161]

Was soooo looking forward to seeing the shaper in action…….but enjoyed the side jobs

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

So was i ! Cheers 👍

[@charlescheatham4524]

Enjoyed your attention to detail Max.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@theoutbackshed]

Nice work straightening the shaft. Cheers SteveO

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@jasonhull5712]

We’ve all had them projects.. that which doesn’t break you only makes you stronger. I am very interested to see that spotter up and running. I’ve never seen one that was functional. I’ve seen lots of parts units, and old ones hung on old broken down Bridgeports, but never seen one making slots.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . 👍

[@troyam6607]

you didnt warn me Max, i didnt have the cotton wool for my ears handy 🤣🤣

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

I am sure you will get over it ! 👍

[@LaLaLand.Germany]

Hi Max, I for shure hang around to watch You go thru this. You gave me some good ideas for my own shed I have in the attic. It very much sucks to have to carry everything up and down but that´s the way it is. I do bycicles and sometimes they are butchered up, too... The common ground is "little knowledge, skill and tools try to "fix" something". That fits ev-ry-where. And guys like us have to cope with. If they´d leave it be, just accept it´s broken and leave it, don´t try anything stupid, we´d be off way better. And I admire Your measuring stuff. I quickly learned that it´s even harder to find good used measuring equipment for a reasonable price that it would be to dig up tooling or materials. Have a nice day and wish You well.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Yes , sometimes easier if they just left things alone ! 👍

[@greglaroche1753]

Nice job straightening that shaft. Thanks for the video.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@melgross]

I was surprised that you didn’t mill the excess off in the Bridgeport. It’s a lot faster, even with changing angles. I’m sure you have a good reason.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No particular reason , just wanted to give the shaper a run . 👍

[@bostedtap8399]

Definitely bricks in front of your wheel barrow on this one Max 😢. Always good to see equipment resurrected. Thanks for sharing

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@graedonmunro1793]

nothing quite like a broken aluminium pulley to make your day!!!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , ya get that ! Hardly a drama though , i will sort it . 👍

[@GraemeStephens]

sad .... I tuned in for the Shaper !

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Same here ! 👍

[@stevechambers9166]

Good video anyway not much gets you down 👍👍👍👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No , you just have to deal with it & move on ! Cheers 👍

[@jdmccorful]

Love lookin over your shoulder. Great repair work! Thanks for your time and skills!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@Preso58]

I have the same slotting head and ironically, it came from Perth! Mine was in far better condition though. Unfortunately, it didn't come with the Bridgeport mount. I made one from a cast iron disc and two angle brackets. I'll be interested to see how you make the tooling for yours.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . It looks good inside . I will probably make HSS silver soldered to steel shanks . 👍

[@frankerceg4349]

Thank you Max!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@tonyray91]

Thanks for showing your straightening method, I”ll keep that in mind if I need to do something similar.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@keithammleter3824]

Max must be really good mates with the electrician. I learnt long ago that non-electrical chaps who try to reduce what I can charge (which in itself is ok) or to "help" me by disassembling it "ready" for me, make the job more difficult. In fact, I generally refuse to take the job on if it is already partly or wholly disassembled. In the case of the shaper, it is probably the case that the motor would not turn because the contactor failed on one phase, but it could be some other fault.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No , it makes it easy for them if the new Din rails are already in place & the old crap is removed . It's only a switch not anything complex .

[@MattysWorkshop]

This has turned into a mission mate

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , And life goes on ! Cheers Matty 👍

[@be007]

Murphy's Law was looking on your shoulder today i think ? cheers ben.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

It happens ! 👍

[@martinsams1518]

Hello Max I do enjoy your channel. Regarding the Sykes Pickavant pulley, the ram is filled with lanolin the trick is to warm it up until it becomes liquid and then pour it in let it cool , reassemble and the jobs a good'n

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Will remember that for next time i service it . Cheers 👍

[@alandawson2813]

Been hanging out for your next installment young max, Learn so much.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@willemvantsant5105]

Hi Max, the slotter looks to be up to the job, decent size ram and healthy speed selections. I made my own, bolts up to the side of my mill drill and uses the same motor via a VFD, 2.5" stroke but good for small jobs

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , that is why i got this one . Just right for the small stuff & beats the heck out of the Armstrong method ! Cheers 👍

[@peter3217]

I truley enjoyed this video, thanks Max

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@arffadailey8055]

Good score on the Sidchrome tool chest. As I travel around I keep an I out for tools like that in 2nd hand shops & swap meets. Better value than the Chinesium that we get today.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

The old Sidchrome stuff keeps it's value . 👍

[@akfarmboy49]

Have yet to get myself a slotting head

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Do it ! 👍

[@dutchgray86]

I finally found one on ebay for an acceptable price and it was delivered on a pallet, then a week later one came up locally for the same money. But the one I got seems to be in nice condition and is a genuine Bridgport made one. Just need to make or buy some tooling for it now. The real adapter bracket is a tight sliding fit around that machined section on the back of the ram, the clamp bolt just flexes it enough to make it not move. Yours was sadly worked on by a member of the if it don't fit use a bigger hammer brigade.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

@@dutchgray86 Yes , it sucks when things are plainly butchered . 👍

[@paulcurtis2779]

Wow, one job steps into another and then another. . Amazing. . Great job.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

And another , always the way ! Cheers 👍

[@tikkathebordercollie]

Hi Max I was recommended to you for a friend has a Sachman milling machine he is setting up I sent you a message on FB with a video. Thank you

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries. I will have a look . 👍

[@garychaplin9861]

Max that looks like an earlier version of the SHAH TON slotter from H & F.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Ok , it has no brand name . Cheers 👍

[@garychaplin9861]

I think you missed the joke Max.@@swanvalleymachineshop

[@garychaplin9861]

I think you missed the joke Max.😅@@swanvalleymachineshop

[@Rustinox]

First I thought, nice! Some shaper work... Well, maybe next time. A shame what they did to that pully and motor. I hope the rest of the head will be OK.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Rusty . The rest looks good . 👍

[@glenncpw]

Max keep the bluebird of happiness in mind - Good onya

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@leathermanTK55]

Nice one Max.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@kennyrmurray]

Nice job. I was gonna say maybe make an over sized bushing to press on then cut it down but that came out good

[@kennyrmurray]

I commented before the end. Looking forward to seeing the final result!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@RutherfordRyan1]

Love the Shaper Max

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . Hopefully will be up & running soon . 👍

[@garymallard4699]

Was that toolbox in a " Mad Max " movie??? 😃 🇨🇦🤓🤟

[@Ropetangler]

Maybe, but it sure is now;-)

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

It is now ! 👍

[@garymallard4699]

@@swanvalleymachineshop 😂

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

@@garymallard4699 Lol , I have been called that ever since that movie came out !

[@garymallard4699]

@@swanvalleymachineshop 🍻

[@Darkrif1957]

Hey Max how ya going, Im excited to see this sloting machine in action as is new to me . cheers 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks , all good . 👍

[@trevorjones4463]

Good job mate 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@Toolmaker001]

I like your channel Mr. Max

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

Very good video friend Max

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@TedRoza]

G'day Max. Now this is a great video, with some good straightening techniques. Because you are fitting a new centre shaft, would it be feasible to make a pulley end on it, instead of welding the end. ??? Just shows some of the knowledge you possess. Great video, with tons of variety.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Not making a new shaft , going to sleeve the pulley . 👍

[@chadstrand7868]

thanks for the video

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@user-fu4hr7jh7v]

I noticed taking last measurement more towards armature, would not the bend be less there?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , you would think so . 👍

[@tas32engineering]

Hate to think what Max would do to the person who caused so much damage. Nice bit of straightening using combination of features. Came up against similar & made shore the person was in a group of people when I verbalised him. Max was looking for a fairytale ending 😢.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Not many fairy tale endings in my shop , it is what it is !!! 👍

[@chucksmalfus9623]

Don’t know for sure but it appears that adapter would sit better on the top machined part of the ram not underneath?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Then all the oscillation pressure is taken by the mounting bolt instead of the machined face of the mount . 👍

[@DontCallMeGarage]

i bet thats an ENCO slotting head. same color as my 1980 ENCO bridgeport clone

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Not sure . Probably a lot made in the same factory with different name tags . Thanks 👍

[@number2664]

Interesting how the motor on the slotter has a larger shaft on the fan end.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

There is a large flat on it to drive the cooling fan . 👍

[@Randysshop49548]

Hi Max. Repairing ones foul ups is the norm with used equipment. Are you going to fix the keyway on the armature shaft also? cheers

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

The keyway on the shaft escaped damage ! Cheers 👍

[@chrisg4804]

You mentioned it was used in a movie, what was the movie called?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Called The Twelve , 2nd part . Filmed at Pickering Brook , W.A . On Binge , not sure if it is out yet . Cheers 👍

[@mudnducs]

Max did you say it’s illegal to work on your own equipment?!

[@ianmoone2359]

Here, Electrical is a licensed / regulated trade, so only a licensed electrician can work on it (on camera) 😉😜😂😂👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes . Licenced electrician only . No insurance if something goes wrong . 👍

[@dutchgray86]

Same in the UK for any electrical work on your house, your limited to very basic work, mostly like for like replacements. I'm not actually sure about working on machine wiring, from the state of many used machines I have had the standards of the electrical work has been poor, things like 3 phase power lines left bare ended and flopping around lose in junction box from where a coolant pump had been removed, many wires pinched by metal covers being carelessly screwed back on, blown fuses bypassed with bits of wire, earth's not connected or relying solely on the armor wires in the cable to do it, which is fine until they rust or the gland undoes and pulls apart.

[@cyclebuster]

And in dance the gremlins

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , Cheers 👍

[@apollorobb]

Nice job straightening the shaft in that rotor. Ive tried that a time or two and i just remake the shafts now it never works out trying to straighten them .So its not legal to wire your own machines.....Thats some BS lol

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

I would have done a weld build up before replacing the shaft . Yes , we are not supposed to do wiring unless you are a licenced electrician . There are a lot of ramifications if something goes wrong . 👍

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

Maybe that slotting head was used to make shoes. It looks like it's been worked on by a cobbler.😉

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , you never know ! 👍

[@philmurray1359]

Love the quality of the old sidchrome stuff, but what about those old Stanley screwdrivers. Don't make them like that anymore

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , they are a classic you do not see too much of now days ! 👍

[@angelarichards3588]

How many knats knackers are in a bulls roar? 😂

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , good question ! 👍

[@simpleman283]

👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍👍👍

[@Histandard2011]

Is the electrical work illegal there if you do the work because it is a business or is illegal even if you were working on your own home?

[@colincreedtattoomachines]

I'm in a different State to Max but assume his would be same as mine...it's illegal for anyone other than a Licenced Electrician to do electrical work & THAT work gets a certificate issued by the "Sparkie", because should there ever be an "electrical fire", your Insurance wont pay out if that certificate can't be produced.

[@jdmccorful]

@@colincreedtattoomachines understood!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

You have to be licensed . If anything untowards happens related or totally unrelated , insurance will not pay out . 👍

[@keithroberson]

lol, this video feels familiar...2 steps forward, 9 steps back.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

That's life in the slow lane !!! 👍

[@garymallard4699]

🇨🇦🤓🤟

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@mikewestbrook2319]

Max, our president Joe Biden is telling a story about his uncle being eaten by cannibals in New Guinea, do you have any inside information on this ? Just wondering, your friend in Texas 🤣🤣

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No , but it could happen ! 👍

[@geraldestes2470]

> way to go there max. my thought beer:30 couldnt have come soon enough your salvaging piss slack wobbly thinly disguised as bush mechanic precision assembly. mano...

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500]

I don't mind fixing wear and tear, but having to go that deep into someone else's hack job is unacceptable. It's bad when things would be in better shape if they didn't even try.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Always a gamble with used machinery . 👍

[@bid6413]

God I hope my slotting machine was repaired by someone who knew what they were doing. If you need pictures of the tooling I have let me know and I’ll take some pictures of the cutters and send them to you. Cheers, Bid

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . That would be good . [e-mail] 👍

[@bid6413]

@@swanvalleymachineshop will hopefully get to it a couple of days. Cheers, Bid