Slovakia's Hungarians - europeans

Slovakia's big Hungarian minority is at the heart of arguments between Budapest and Bratislava....
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[@browarman]

Stary strong Hungarians. Good time will come to you too. Greetings from Poland

[@Cris-hd1wb]

browarman They are everywhere, just like Poles in Ireland and Scotland. I don't agree with this separatism

[@browarman]

ME_MYSELF and I so what will you do about it?

[@browarman]

ME_MYSELF and I Romanians are begging on polish streets but I don't think they will try to separete of donators.

[@Player-st4hn]

@@sterianburghelea6567 more people like us than romanians, we have the Poles, Turks, Kazakhs and even some Germans, who do you have? Other Romanians. Also we were axis in ww2 because we didnt want to be crushed by nazis, we were allies on the inside, when the Russians came close to Hungary, the Hungarians switched sides to fight the Germans with Russian support.

[@sterianburghelea6567]

@@Player-st4hn Really, you don't know a thing about us. We too have the Poles , Germans, Hungarians, Ukrainians, Lipovans, Turks, Tatars, Bulgarians, Serbs, Greeks, Albanians, Gypsy, and lately the Westerners who establish in our country. You guys are so full of youselves. A little modesty would do you so much good.

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY The Romanian "Ardeal" name first appears in a document from 1432 as "Ardeliu". According to archeologists and scientists, it has nothing to do with the Romanian word "deal". Some similar examples: Hungarian: Erdőd, Romanian: Ardud; Hungarian: Egres, Romanian: Agrus; Hungarian: Egyed, Romanian: Adjud; Hungarian: Esküllő, Romanian: Aşchileu; Hungarian: Erdőfalva, Romanian: Ardeova etc.

[@P3t3rG1]

Forgot to mention the halving of the population lost to the treaty, eh? VESSZEN TRIANON!

[@busterbiloxi3833]

YES! YES! YES! TRIANON! NO EMPIRES! NO BROWN-NOSING THE HAPSBOURGS!

[@sterianburghelea6567]

Vivat Trianon!

[@OkosPala]

@islandcaptain The dual citizenship from Hungary could be a means of protection against cultural genocide in Slovakia and other countries.

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY Let me enlighten you again. Vasile Lupu, ruler of Moldva in the 17th century wrote an official letter to the Turkish Port, stating that one-third of Transylvania's inhabitants are Romanians. He wanted to conquer Transylvania, but he changed his mind, likely because the above mentioned proportion was absolutely false. In the 18th century, many Romanians migrated to Transylvania, so their proportion then reached one-third, but majority was still Hungarian.

[@Player-st4hn]

I support... comments are for idiots, this is not a war, the relations are good (but this depends on how the slovaks treat the Hungarians there)

[@paulmedesan9620]

3:15 isn't that because the 1920 census counted also the Hungarians in what is now transcarpathia oblast Ukraine

[@dani95barefield65]

No, Transcatpathia has like 150k Hungarians. Most Hungarians emigrated to Hungary or the USA

[@paulmedesan9620]

@@dani95barefield65 so the 1920 census didn't count Hungarians in Czechia (if there were any) and the one in Transcarpathia who was then part of Czechoslovakia?

[@dani95barefield65]

@@paulmedesan9620 They counted all of them, but this way it still ads up to like 650k The rest emigrated south or to other countries

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY Again, you've scored an own-goal! The word "erdő" (and thus "Erdély") originates from the verb "ered". It can be translated as: to originate, to arise, to rise, to accrue, to derive, to spring from etc. With the letter "ő" at the end, it is a participle. And only one thought about your comment: your first sentece was "Stop eating shit!" Let me quote a classic phrase: "Le style, c'est l'homme."

[@OkosPala]

@severussius @severussius It seems you were taught a - let's say - "special" perspective of history. Just imagine, Slovakians lived for 1000 years in Hungary without assimilation. However, more than half of Hungarians in Slovakia were deported or assimilated in less than 100 years.

[@Diasfu]

For people watching this..there is much more to this than just what it was reported. If you don't know anything about these disputes, I suggest you take this report very lighly, and do some research..even before Trianon!!!

[@cnccarving]

trianon was bad and hungary should overcome on that its about the crippled parts , if they can keep up the origins sitting at this computer, im not able to tell how many of hungarians would join to a movement, how many actually care changing countries borders.. and again slovakie is a mixed country so everyones opinion count you cant opinion only from one side

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY About the daco-roman theory: Dacia was under Roman rule for only 150 years. How could it have been fully "romanized" in such a short time? Romans left Dacia in 270 because of the Gothic attacks, and the province went under German rule. If Romanians were descendants of Romans, if Romanians had been in Transylvania for such a long time, their language should have absorbed much more German and Turkish influence instead of Slavic and Albanic.

[@busterbiloxi3833]

Romanians speak a Latin language. Explain.

[@dani95barefield65]

I think it is because language renovation. Hungarian took words mostly from german, and romanian took words from latin. But the main question is, is nationality ideologic or genetic? If it is genetic, I am shure everyone in central Europe has a little Dacian dna in them. If it is ideologic I do not support it because identifying with something for political gains is not good. I am quite shure Hungarians have pannonian dna too and so do romanians and slovaks.

[@larathelara]

I'm Hungarian lol

[@hunguy3280]

We can only feel sorry for the Hungarians who to this day are still suffering from the criminal decisions of the Treaty of Trianon after World War 2. What people forget is who were the decision makers of this unfair treaty? It was the US and UK powers who won both World Wars and they were the principal powers who actually controlled every paragraph of the treaty including the 2/3 loss of Hungarian territory.

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY We are so few there because of the nazi-type politics of Romania - so simple. In Transylvania you can find only Hungarian runes and Latin-alphabet inscriptions, and nothing in Cyrillic (used by Romanians till 1860). If you are so educated, how do you explain it? Why town and city names have Hungarian origin? Why can't you find German influence in Romanian language if they were so many in Transylvania? Why are there still Hungarian-majority regions, after 90 years of oppression?

[@busterbiloxi3833]

What oppression? They have full language rights. Slovaks in pre-Trianon Slovakia had no rights.

[@OkosPala]

@@busterbiloxi3833 Slovaks could preserve their language and identity for 1,000 years as a minority in Upper Hungary. On the other hand, half of the Hungarian minority in Slovakia disappeared in less than 100 years, and there is no hope of stopping this process. Even ticket price sheets at train stations are not allowed in Hungarian! So, who's been oppressing ethnic minotities?

[@OkosPala]

@Flav C You are lying, and that can be easily proved. Anyone who looks historical ethnic proportions, will see that e.g. in the 15th century, Romanians made up less than 15% of the population, so did Germans. In the 18th century, based on an Austrian census (!), 47% was Hungarian, 34% was Romanian, 19% was German. Transylvania was a Hungarian area with various ethnic, religious and language minorities.

[@OkosPala]

@Flav C Some Hungarians were the bosses, i.e. the overlords, lord paramounts - and many-many people were the poor guys, including Hungarians, as well as Germans, Slavs, Armenians, and yes, Romanians too. All these people from several ethnicities were the cheap workforce on the lands, no matter what language they spoke. I would ask you that if Romanians had so bad life in the Hungarian ruled Transylvania, why did they migrate in masses from Romania?

[@OkosPala]

@severussius Jobbik and similar organisations are much less extreme and aggressive than Meciar's, Fico's and Slota's parties. Although Jobbik has aggressive style, it do not want to ban the use of any language, do not want to eliminate ethnic minorities. About the citizenship: I do not wonder that you lack awareness in this field as well. Your hate motivates your comments, not your knowledge! Dual citizenship is a very well known means, and widely used in Europe, even in less serious cases.

[@user-zh7us5fz9t]

Nech žije slovensko-madarske priateľstvo!

[@jgerka]

I support Slovaks from CANADA

[@jackob7089]

Thanks :)

[@Player-st4hn]

It isnt a war, there is no supporting we are mostly at peace except a few Slovaks who hate the Hungarian majority

[@jackob7089]

@@Player-st4hn i am from Slovakia i Like hungary and i have some magyars friends and i can say in both countrys there is some people who hates Slovakia and who hates hungary (sorry for my bad english)

[@Player-st4hn]

@@jackob7089 ok well glad to see you dont hate all of us, I dont hate all of you, I think the tension should just stop and borders should be redrawn according to ethinicity, e.g. mostly Slovak land in Hungary given away, mostly Hungarian land in Slovakia given to us, that should solve the arguments

[@jakubzov]

@@Player-st4hn nope you doomed your self. 1919 war and revanchism didn't pay of, did it now?

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY Your lack of knowledge tells a lot about the quality of your phd degree! It reminds me of Mrs. Ceauşescu, who was the president of the Romanian academy with 4 years of primary school studies! By the way, I know Romanians who are very nice people and do not spread hatred. I respect them, but I despise those who fight aggressively against people, cultures and historical facts.

[@sterianburghelea6567]

Support for Slovaks from USA

[@jackob7089]

Thank you :)

[@Player-st4hn]

This isnt a war, you are just provoking Hungarians by doing this. Also you are supporting the people who are in rightfully Hungarian territory.

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY Nobody's pretending he owns half Europe. You came here with your hazy theories, and you edify others! From your style it seems that it's you only who prefers raw power to civilised argument!

[@chevinspeisi]

@napocanewsGB SHAME ON YOUR MOTHER ! SHE IS CALLING YOU EACH DAY TO HELP HER BECAUSE SHE IS CONSTIPATED.

[@Player-st4hn]

JUST GIVE AREAS WITH VERY HIGH AMOUNTS OF HUNGARIANS BACK TO HUNGARY!!! It will benifit everyone and Hungarians have been voting for this for a long time

[@therealcoolpup3196]

How about Hungarians go back to Hungary? They love their nation and culture so go back.

[@kristofrubi2457]

The Real Cool Pup they are already in hungary

[@selcovoilucian8253]

You can vote all you want. Thouse areas was lost in war and was payed with blood. Pis on your vote , next time don't loose wars

[@grimnoob893]

Rly? :) becuase despise few Magyar politics, majority of claims of slovakian Magyars about this topic is negative :)

[@sadcookie7401]

No, that’s backwards thinking. We Europeans are better than that. Every citizen has the same rights plus we’re all in EU so borders are not very important anyway. Wars over borders already caused millions of pointless deaths. We Europeans are stronger together than divided with walls and borders.

[@severussius]

@napocanewsGB Slovak congregation was immediately banned in ... you still marching it ridiculous Hungarian Guard movement operates 64 counties, Jobbik in Parliament and so on. Not to mention your act of citizenship that goes beyond your borders. You are most aggressive nationality in the world.

[@croatianwarmaster7872]

I stand with the Slovaks 🇸🇰🇭🇷 We need a strategic partnership and fast train from Bratislava to Zagreb and Rieka.

[@jgerka]

Central Europe Detailed research by Hungarian geneticists concluded that the Slavs and the Germanic peoples are the closest in Central Europe and that the Hungarians/ Magyars are somewhat farther from either of them, but closer to the Slavs than to any other group. In addition, genetically, they are exactly the same people. The inhabitants of Budapest are closer to the Slavs than the rest of Hungary. Budapest became a single city occupying both banks of the river Danube with its unification on 17 November 1873 of Buda, on the west bank, with Pest, on the east bank. BUDAPEST consists of two words. In the Slovak language, this is what the word BUDAPEST means: BUDA - PES - T (Doghouse) (Letter “T” at the end of the word has been added by Magyars/Hungarians) BUDA - a dog's kennel. PES - dog This means that the Slavs in the area at the time (current day Slovaks) built the city which is called Budapest, and this is their signature stamp they left behind to symbolize their dominion over the invading Magyars at the time the city was created originally. In 1991 it pointed renowned geneticist LL Cavalli Sforza, Professor of Stanford University (USA). The results of their large-scale genetic studies, which took place in present-day Hungary evaluated the professor follows: " Hungary is an anomaly in Europe. The language is Asian, but European population, mostly Slavic. And these Slavs are the original inhabitants of the Carpathian Basin. The absolute majority of the population of Hungary is not ethnically Hungarian (Magyars), but instead it's mostly Slavic and European continuously. Leaving only the Hungarian name and agglutinating language. Hungarian genes are not. "(Scientica American, November 1991). In the vernacular words: every second Slovak Hungarians, just about even know … *Another fact, which is not fully known to the general public, the dominant position of the Slovak language to the other Slavic nations. In this context, we mention the work of American linguist and scientist prof. Price's, which considered the Slovak language as " the key to all Slavic language" and for the media to an understanding with other Slavs. (John D. Price, The Key to all Slavonic languages, SHF, Columbia University, New York, Dec. 15, 1943, 9 p.). Professor J. Price this idea expressed at the Congress of Slavists in Warsaw. The Polish delegation came out with a proposal that was approved by the definition of the first Slavic language in which the decisive point is Slovak. In addition to the Czech delegation, everyone voted for the Polish proposal: "the Slovak language is the oldest and according to him is then created other Slavic languages" (Canadian Slovak, Slovak, the oldest Slavic language, Toronto, March 23, 1989).

[@OkosPala]

@DIHORY Before writing so stupid comments, try to use your mind! The land of the USA was not occupied from Hungary, those Hungarians who live in the USA, migrated there. On the other hand, Hungarians in Slovakia became citizens of another country because of the Slovakian occupation, and since that, they are victims of cultural genocide.

[@IronSK]

Slovak occupation? Slavs lived in the area long before the arrival of the Mongols who would eventually settle down and become Hungarians. And the Slovaks were ruled over by said Hungarians until Trianon. You occupied us. And you even took a bit of us for yourself when Nazi Germany disarmed the first Czechoslovak republic, established the protectorate of Czechia and Bohemia, and forced the first Slovak republic to give land to Hungary and Poland. So how exactly did Slovaks, the indigenous people of the area, occupy the invaders? We do want to coexist in peace, but we cannot do that if you keep claiming our land as your own.

[@monikamiliczka6104]

BS!

[@jancivianci3028]

Monika Miliczka Total BS.

[@jancivianci3028]

fassenkugel Lower Panonia is Slavic land. go back to Asia lol

[@monikamiliczka6104]

Janci Vianci take history with a pinch of salt!! Take your aggression out somewhere else!! We are the new generation and we don't hate!!! Don't live in the past. I could write this in Hungarian and also in few Slavic languages. Get a hobby and stop hating!

[@jancivianci3028]

Monika Miliczka what aggression?? That was SARCASM lol at the end is inclination. Get some English classes. Oh and BTW since when Huns= Avars= Magyar??? In your fantasies maybe but every real historian would laugh his ass out.

[@monikamiliczka6104]

Janci Vianci ok elhiszem neked, pofa be mar elég volt!!!!

[@Cris-hd1wb]

I support Slovaks from Romania. We also have to deal with immigrants....

[@user-zz3gv8xq8y]

Inwasors gypsis😅 It was never transilvani and banat romania. Balkan gypsis

[@severussius]

@napocanewsGB Hungary was fascist during History. Since you came to our land, you tried to assimilate and to conquer all neighboring Slavic country. In Hungary there were also many Slovaks and most of them had to assimilate because they would not get a job and apply in your country. Hungarians havs in Slovakia schools, universities, can use their own language and culture develop. And what are the Slovaks in Hungary? Nothing and besides, all you have pomaďarčili. Who is the fascist now?

[@Player-st4hn]

We werent facist we only joined them to save our skin, when the Allies came to supporting distance of Hungary they switched sides and fought Germans! Horthy refused to send as many jews to camps as Hitler wanted!

[@BuutFlier]

In Békés county we have slovakian schools.

[@kulera]

Why would you want land that you got and have honestly no cultural ties to. I say they give it back to Hungary.