WHO ARE THE MAGYARS? - Ansburg A.D. Backstory | A Cities Skylines Time-Progression Series

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3 жыл бұрын

In the 10th century, a new threat for the European kingdoms came from the east: The Magyars. More commonly known today as the Hungarians, they were the last ones to settle in the Pannonian basin and had a big role in shaping the region into what we now it as today. So what are the origins of these people and why did they invade central Europe at all? Let’s find out in this video!
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Ansburg A.D. is a time-progression series that features the development of a fictional central european city through 1300 years, from the early medieval ages to modern days. Chapter 2 tells the story of the magyar invasion and its consequences for the settlement.
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@TitanGameDesign
@TitanGameDesign 3 жыл бұрын
Another one of those history-focused videos! Hope you like this as well
@vladimirgunnar7015
@vladimirgunnar7015 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rerun3283
@rerun3283 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson!! Excellent
@hondacbrification
@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын
The word MagYar is relates to MacAr,MakAr…where the identity is Mak meaning Acorn from the root word Ak and such MagYars trace a Sian(Thian)-Hun(Han) descendant which was a GaL tribal coalition which as such stretched from PortuGaL all the way to BenGal and MonGolia at certain part in time. Nép as such in our language means People in sense of a nation where AL means Lower even do some called ÉL meaning God as AL as well which fundamentally as per Hungarian Golden Bula would have been a Solar God. The reason why Roman Catholic in particular pray as Buddhist and has a Buddhist meditation tool called Rosary is due to Sian influence which had practiced Buddhism from the beginning who as such would have been a continuation of so called Suryan teachings…
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
archeo-genetics will change many things...
@tusk3260
@tusk3260 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it was the Tatars that forced the Magyars too flee their homeland.
@NarenThapamagar
@NarenThapamagar 3 жыл бұрын
In County Nepal “Magar” we are the indigenous and native tribe. We look Mongolian and use “Magar” as last name. I have been keep hearing since childhood that we have a long separated families who migrated towards Europe modern day Hungry and are called “Magyars” so fascinating to see such a long history.
@sudipmagadh7183
@sudipmagadh7183 3 жыл бұрын
wee hame haruu 28 buddha ko santan hauuu hamro bhasa pali ho, hamro alphabet match poni garxa pali alphabet snga sanskrit, devnagreee lipii 0%
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 3 жыл бұрын
It is just a coincidence. You have no connection to magyars. 1. Magars speak a sino-tibetian language family. Magyars speak a finno-ugric language family. 2. Ancient magyar graves yield ydna N1c and R1a and r1b. Magars are ydna O2 and O3. 3. Magyars were nomadic horse archers who recorded there homeland in the urals not south asia. Magars were mountaineers and we're not known as horse archerss. 4. The name magyars were called mogyer in the past. And had 7 tribes all were turkic names and ugric names. You are not related to them. dna does not lie. Also you have NO legends about a tribe going to "europe". Example....link us a source that says you have that legend. If you can't then I guess we all know who's lying. Also how long ago or how many thousand years ago did your so called legend claim the magars came to europe?
@sukete_budamonger5065
@sukete_budamonger5065 3 жыл бұрын
we are childreen of buddha !! our DNA n buddha DNA is similar
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 2 жыл бұрын
@@sukete_budamonger5065 Buddha was Hunnic, like Magyars. But so many thousands of years ago.
@zalansteyer7272
@zalansteyer7272 2 жыл бұрын
I also saw your headstones ("kopjafa"), your shamans. One of you is called Buda. I also know you are good soldiers. The land you live the others say all tribes were there, you are the only migrated one...
@chrisrus1965
@chrisrus1965 11 ай бұрын
People always ask who are the Magyars. Maybe for once ask how are the Magyars.
@matrimhelmsgaard
@matrimhelmsgaard 3 жыл бұрын
This is goold man, firstly this episode is fantastic!, Also over 5K now :D
@davidp.3479
@davidp.3479 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as always!
@an4447
@an4447 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Magyar. My grandfather is a Magyar from Hungary. I’ve traced my heritage back to 1500 in Hungary.
@tommyjohnson6410
@tommyjohnson6410 Жыл бұрын
You dont look black or swarthy?
@eodyn7
@eodyn7 Жыл бұрын
@@tommyjohnson6410 It's called interbreeding with Europeans ya genius.
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
dna evidence.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
Nagyon köszönjük hogy megosztottad, az ilyenek fontosak a nemzet számára.
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 6 ай бұрын
magyars entered Hungary in the 9th century ad......so how can you trace it back 1500 years? that doesnt make any sense...
@barbaraamydancs4943
@barbaraamydancs4943 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, many thanks for making me understand where I now live
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
dna evidence.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@bhojrajmagar5493
@bhojrajmagar5493 2 жыл бұрын
Hi i m from South Asian Country Nepal. Thanks too much for important information about Magyar. Some historians claim that Magar people's ancestors of Magar people in South Asia are the Magyar of Hungary. Can you share the information about relationship between Magar in South Asia and Magyar in Hungary?
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
From Hungary. Try to search at Magar Radio about Magyars(Hungarians) or at Magar Association. Greetings.
@bhojrajmagar5493
@bhojrajmagar5493 Жыл бұрын
@@hungarienness thank
@bhojrajmagar5493
@bhojrajmagar5493 Жыл бұрын
Thanks too much
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
@@bhojrajmagar5493 All the best brother.
@DrinkingStar
@DrinkingStar 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up from someone whose ancestry is part Magyar(Hungarian). I have often wondered how Hungary got its name since all my Hungarian relatives call themselves Magyars. Why wasn't the land settled by the Magyars called something like "Magyaria" if Hungary is the land/homeland of the Magyars? Maybe you could do a video about how Hungary got its name. In my younger years I have assumed that Hungary got its name from the Huns who settled in that area during the 5th century. I have also been made aware that the word Xiongnu in Chinese, is translated as "Hun". The Xiongnu originated in the northern area of China near Korea. There are several explanation about the origin of the Huns one of which is the theory that the Huns were in fact the descendants of the Northern Xiongnu who migrated westward. Could some of these westward migrants be part of those who were called Magyars?
@seaman5705
@seaman5705 2 жыл бұрын
Land occupied by magyars in Panonia was called Tourkia because they were coming from lands ocupied by turkic khazars . Everybody considered them to be some kind of turks and that they were . Hungarians were called after the name of another turkic tribe - onogurs . No connection to the huns other that they might have come for Asia too . No one can say how much of their roots are turkic and how much uralic . No one can say what language they spoke at their arrival in Panonia . Fact is that they took lots of words from turkic languages and they took the runes too from turks . Today hungarians have not much connection to their wanna be ancestor , because magyars were decimated at Lechfeld, Mohi and later Mohacs . So today, they are mostly slavs, germanics , vlachs, cumans and other turkics who were asimilated in hungarian society or were forceful magyarised . They old ancestry is no more than 1% in their DNA . Arpad family had the roots in Baschiria - a turkic land in SE Urals .
@DrinkingStar
@DrinkingStar 2 жыл бұрын
The following is copied from Wikipedia: Damgaard et al. 2018 found that the Huns were of mixed East Asian and West Eurasian origin. The authors of the study suggested that the Huns were descended from Xiongnu who expanded westwards and mixed with Sakas.[50][51] Neparáczki et al. 2019 examined the remains of three males from three separate 5th century Hunnic cemeteries in the Pannonian Basin. They were found to be carrying the paternal haplogroups Q1a2, R1b1a1b1a1a1 and R1a1a1b2a2.[52] In modern Europe, Q1a2 is rare and has its highest frequency among the Székelys. All of the Hunnic males studied were determined to have had brown eyes and black or brown hair, and to have been of mixed European and East Asian ancestry.[53] The results were consistent with a Xiongnu origin of the Huns.[54] In an interdiciplinary study, Savelyev & Jeong 2020 found no clear evidence of continuity between the Xiongnu and the Huns, and concluded that no genetic evidence suggest that the steppe component of the Huns was derived from the Xiongnu or other populations of the eastern steppe.[55] Keyser et al. 2020 found that the Xiongnu shared certain paternal and maternal haplotypes with the Huns, and suggested on this basis that the Huns were descended from Xiongnu, who they in turn suggested were descended from Scytho-Siberian My question is still the same:"How did Hungary get its name. Why isn't called something like Magyary" instead of Hungary? The pronunciation of "Xiong" in Mandarin sounds like "Hun" and may be a corruption of the pronunciation. I still think that Hungary was called that by the ancients as "The land of the Huns". This is where many of the Huns settled after Attila was defeated by the Romans. The Magyars settled in the "land of the Huns". The ancient name was not changed by the invading Magyars,as seems to be true of various conquerors of other lands throughout history. The translation of "Hun" into Mandarin is "Xiongnu". It is this translation that caused me to delve into the origin of the Huns and where they settled in Europe. If my Hungarian/Magyar relatives look deeper into the past, I feel they might see themselves as part Hun. This is my opinion based upon the genetic and historical accounts. I know I could be totally wrong but I would want more proof/evidence to indicate I am wrong.
@seaman5705
@seaman5705 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrinkingStar Your question has been answered . Hungarian name comes from Onogur turkic tribe . Magyars, at their arrival where associated with turks .
@Bgyarmati
@Bgyarmati 2 жыл бұрын
hun-magyar brothers according to legend....
@oddindian1
@oddindian1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrinkingStar Keep in mind that Hun literally means "nomad" to add more confusion no one today as far as can be told actually remembers the names of the Huns. For the Chinese did not even refer to the Xiongnu as a state or polity with a name, being as Xiongu translates to nomad. The Modu Chanyu(military leader) of the Xiongnu Empire is referenced. Another thing to note is that nomadic society relied on a ruling class that may or may not be related in any way shape or form besides the nomadic way of life. Ex. Language, ethnicity, culture, customs. There were many different members of this ruling class that formed a named political entity. In the case of the Khazars we know today that their ruling class was made of multiple ethnic elements and representatives, the "Huns" and Xiongnu were no different. The period of time that ties the end of Attila's period to the next would be the Pannonian Avars which assimilated and or destroyed the remnants of "Hunnic" peoples left behind. They themselves were defeated by the Franks and eventually the Bolghars(Bulgarians) and so on and so forth. The only consistent thing between all of these people is their cultural affinity for being nomadic. There is a common thread of among all nomads, different tribes being associated with a cardinal direction regardless of ethnic or linguistic connection. Each direction is designated by a specific color which is mirrored by all nomadic peoples ever recorded. When you do an deep dive and research it there is no variance in the colors, they always match. Attila's people were "Black Huns" The Iranian Huns were "White Huns."
@szalard
@szalard 3 жыл бұрын
Notice that after the victory of Augsburg from 955, Otto the Great was afraid to attack Hungary, while he attacked every countries in every direction, except Hungary. He was afraid to not to suffer such a crushing defeat which his ancestors suffered, at the Battle of Pressburg/Pozsony, when they attacked Hungary in 907. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHm4hHapabOUmck
@TitanGameDesign
@TitanGameDesign 3 жыл бұрын
true true, either way, in that video I focused on the origins of the people, Otto the Great is for another day^^
@szalard
@szalard 3 жыл бұрын
@@TitanGameDesign Thanks, great video. I didn't knew that my ancestors attacked this place. Was it in 919 or in 924? As I know the Hungarians attacked Saxony in these years, before their defeat at Merseburg in 933. So I suppose it was not in 933, when they were defeated. Both in 919, and 924 the Henry the Fowler took refuge in a fortress.
@laszlofarkas9406
@laszlofarkas9406 3 жыл бұрын
tru
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
​@@szalard No, it's not true at all. The army at Lechfeld mostly consisted troops from hungarian warlords and tribals leaders, rather than warriors from the hungarian grand prince. It was an autonomous raiding invasion from non-Árpádic tribal leaders​, like Bulcsú or Lehel/Lél. During this time, it's possible that the central power within the tribal confederation was weak and the Árpáds were insignificant at this point. This battle killed off a big portion of the hungarian fighting population. Otto wasn't afraid about attacking Pannonia, he didn't needed to do it. Hungarians mostly came to the west as mercenary armies to rampage and pillage, to settle disputes between rival german magnates. Otto centralized the state, settled disputes and internal warring was off the table at this point, such as any imminent threat from the hungarians, since they just suffered a catastrophic defeat from a newly unified german state. But to-be-honest, the germans could march into Pannonia at this point and conquer it without any difficulty. However, conquering Pannonia was another question. Otto wasn't afraid about losing a battle, but to consolidate the region. He just unified the germans and had tons of other important stuff to do at the home front, he couldn't be bothered with a long and costly occupation in Pannonia against a fairly big and mostly pagan population. His goal was to eliminate the threat, which he did. And case closed, hungarian raids to the west were handled once-and-for-all. Well, he recovered a huge chunk of territories in the Upper Danube basin, mostly populated by germans and slavs at least. The most important thing on the hungarian side was the powerflip, caused by the battle. Just as i said, it killed off a big portion of the hungarian fighting population. But this population was from warlords and strong tribal leaders. Now many of the internal rivals were killed, or their armies scattered, the battle of Lechfeld dropped out internal opposition and indirectly caused the resurgence of the Árpád family during the late 10th century, initially leading to state organization and adopting catholicism. Géza, the first "christian" ruler of Hungary was a teenager during the Battle of Lechfeld and was probably deeply influenced by this defeat. His grandfather, Fajsz was forced to abdicate the principality (and he was probably sacrificed for the defeat), while his father, Taksony was forced to let german and greek preachers into the country to prevent further german invasions. So no, Otto wasn't afraid about a "New Pozsony", when he just shattered the fighting capabilities of the magyars. He just took back a big chunk of land with mostly christian population on it and was happy with finally putting an end to the hungarian problem once-and-for-all.
@szalard
@szalard 2 жыл бұрын
@@StalkerQtya You just affirm the old, outdated or simply untrue theories about the period of the Magyar invasions. Lél and Bulcsú were not tribal leaders. Bulcsú was Horka, the third most important position in the nomadic Hungarian state. According to some historians Lél was from the Árpád dinasty, the others say that he was an important political leader in the hierarchy of the nomadic state. Yes, the battle of Augsburg killed many Hungarians, but not all the army. Many of them escaped, the "gyászmagyar" story is just a legend, nothing all. So even if the battle would had killed a half of the Hungarian army, the rest remained, and also not all the Hungarian males went in this campaign. And the fact that after the battle of Augsburg, the Hungarians continued their campaigns against Byzantium until 970, debunks your theory. Because if almost all the males died in 955, who went in the campaigns to the Balcans in the next years? You say Otto wasn't afraid, but he did not attacked Hungary, because he didn't needed, and he did not attacked because he had to consolidate his country. So explain me, why Otto attacked every neighbouring country, even the powerful West Franks and the Danes, and only Hungary was not attacked? Why he did not needed to consolidate his country when he attacked the West Franks, the Danes, Burgundy, etc., and only in the case of the Hungarians? He was not a peace loving ruler, but one who loved to conquer and who used every opportunity to take lands from other countries. Furthermore, for the Germans it was a huge pain the loss of Pannonia in 900. If somebody could had take it back, it would had been a huge a prestige victory for him. I think that before all his conquests, for Otto it would had been a huge prestige victory and a revenge if he would had been taken back Pannonia from the Hungarians. But he didn't even tried... The cause of this was that, although his victory at Augsburg, he was affraid to attack Hungary. So explain me why Otto, who conquered or subdued every of his neighbours, did not tried to take back Pannonia to avenge the humiliating loss of this very important land under the Frankish influence from Charlemagne’s reign, and the catastrophical defeat from Brezalauspurc? Bucause your explanation, as I showed, is not acceptable. You affirm that the Hungarians were only mercenaries of the Western countries, and fought only to help Western leaders in their dispute against each others. This is also not true! There are so many proofs about this. How a real mercenary unit behaves? They fight for every country or ruler, who pay them, they choose those who pay them the best, without taking in consideration any political religious, social issue. We see this in the case of the Vikings, when many times Viking units fought for every king or emperor who paid them, many times even fighting on both sides. So in many battles we see Viking mercenary units in both the armies, fighting against each others. If one king, which fought against the Vikings, paid them, they fought even against the army of their own kind. For example the West Franks hired the Viking Rollo to defend France against other Vikings. You cannot see this in the case of the Hungarians. You cannot find a battle in which Hungarians fought to have Hungarian units in both sides. They fought only on the side of that king or duke, who previously started to pay tribute to the Hungarian grand prince, or helping those who could help the policy of the supremacy in the region, of the Árpádian nomadic state. For example in 954-955, they fought to help the German princes who revolted against Otto I. Of course this was to help to break down the increasing power of Otto, the greatest enemy of the Hungarians. You cannot see Hungarian units fighting to help Otto or his father Henrik the Fowler... And in the other battles, in which they fought to support European leaders, those leaders were paying tribute to the Hungarian nomadic state. So they fought in order to help those leaders to stay in power, because if they would had been overthrown, that country would maybe stopped paying the tribute... So these rulers payed tribute to the Hungarians, who helped them to stay in power. This is like the protection money paid to the maffia. We can see this so many times (905, 919, 921, 924) in the case of Berengar the I. They never fought against him, only on his side. Why? Because he paid tribute to Hungary! Why the Hungarians fought in one year at Arnulf’s, the other year at Svatopluk’s side before the Hungarian conquest? Because the purpose of the Hungarian confederacy was to weaken both, order to conquer the Carpathian Basin from them more easily. In that moment for them it was not important whom they help, because they wanted to weaken them both. But after their purpose was fulfilled, and the Carpathian Basin was occupied, establishing their power there, usually they helped only those who paid them the tribute, after the Hungarians subdued them (Berengar of Italy, Arnulf of Bavaria, Hugo of Provence, etc.). When, after 933, their power in the West started to fade because of the expansion of Otto, and they tried to become powerful again, they started again the policy of helping those rulers or politicians who revolted against their greatest threat, Otto, hoping that in the case if they succeeded, the centralized power in Germany will disappear, and they can establish again their supremacy there, as it was before 933. So the Hungarian nomadic state controlled the raids of the Hungarian troops, and the leaders of those troops never acted according to their own will, but only with the will and according to the political and military interests of the grand prince. This is what the research of every campaign show. So the theory of mercenary troops which acted to their free will, helping everybody is not true at all. Yes, the defeat at Augsburg was very important for the Hungarians, and most importantly the death of important leaders like, Bulcsú, Lél and Súr played an important role in stopping of the attacks to West. But why they still continued the campaigns towards the Balkans? Why? So the Battle of Ausgsburg did not stopped the Hungarian state policy of campaigns against other states... So what you are saying that Hungary after the battle of Ausgsburg stopped its campaigns is not true. Only the campaigns to West. The Hungarians saw now that they have a formidable opponent in the West, and they did not wanted to continue these campaigns in the West, which caused them many losses. They decided to avoid Western Europe dominated by the Holly Roman Empire in forming, like Otto was afraid of the risk of attacking Hungary. And maybe the fact that Taksony, who in 956 became Hungarian grand prince, also participated in the battle of Augsburg, but he escaped and lived, played a role in ceasing the attacks in the West. The defeat had to be a nightmare for him, and probably he decided to stop these campaigns against the West, considering them too dangerous and not profitable anymore. So this too demonstrates that the Hungarian grand princes decided in foreign policy and not the tribal leaders, as you say. This demonstrates again that the Hungarian grand princes had the absolute political power and their subjects were afraid of disobeying them.
@gabomasters
@gabomasters Жыл бұрын
I'm Magyar too, but we've been living in Germany for more than thirty years, but we still speak the language at home, unfortunately our history has been lied down for many years.
@laszlofarkas9406
@laszlofarkas9406 3 жыл бұрын
we are not finnougrians at all we are scythians the horse lords .one of the biggest anciant empire later mongolians followed and used magyar taktics very sucsessfully
@tamaszlav
@tamaszlav 3 жыл бұрын
You are an Ugrian, deal with it.
@ErikAdalbertvanNagel
@ErikAdalbertvanNagel 2 жыл бұрын
Biztosra veszem nagyon utánaolvastál a témának, tanulmányoztad az ugor nyelveket hogy így megtagadod ezt az elméletet.
@Mangoeplanter
@Mangoeplanter 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikAdalbertvanNagel ez elmélet tehát nem 100 % hogy igaz
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikAdalbertvanNagel Genetikai vizsgálatok szerint vagy a Szittyák és Hunok is Ugorok voltak, vagy Magyarok, de egy ugyanaz a nép vagyunk.
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
Afghan means Horse lords from Af(horse) and Gan(lord/Master) Ossetian and Pashtun Efs or Af is Horse- While it is Asb/Asp or Aess in Persian and Western Iranic. Afghan is mentioned in Indian records as Ashvakan.
@hungarianhistoryiii.1359
@hungarianhistoryiii.1359 3 жыл бұрын
corded ware- sintastha- bmac-xiongnu-and back home to europe.
@HUNdAntae
@HUNdAntae 5 күн бұрын
So when you say "pillaging and raiding" what you want to to say is mercenary service and alliance on one or the other side of the many conflicts in the time of Europe. In other words, they weren't Landpirates, they were called to help and were paid lavishly. The looting was just part of war up until the most recent history of war.
@kenken8765
@kenken8765 2 жыл бұрын
What about the Cumans? Didn't they also settle in Hungary sometime later after the Magyars?
@kenken8765
@kenken8765 2 жыл бұрын
@kurgan anderko do ancestors of the cumans still exist? I heard somewhere from some Hungarian that the Cumans settled assimilated so much that you can't really tell them apart from the Hungarians.
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
@kurgan anderko ​ No, this is just bullshit. Cumans were natural enemies with the hungarian kings 'till the early 13th century, when their steppe federation was crushed by the mongols and their population were driven to the west. The hungarian king at this point was IV. Béla, later known as "tHe SeCoND FoUndEr!" (he was an incompetent idiot, most of his success was due to his son, the later V. Stephen) who let them into the country in exchange for military aid against the incoming mongol invasion. The cumans were settled in an autonomous region inside the Hungarian Basin, but started to cause trouble against the local, non-nomadic population. Mostly causing damage to properties, stealing and participating in violence (it was two-sided). They were pretty upset about being forced to convert to catholicism too. When the mongol invasion creeped closer, some of the hungarian nobles acted differently from crown orders (Béla was fairly hated by nobility because he was an arbitrary jerk) and suspecting the cumans as mongolian spies, they murdered the cuman king Köteny/Köten/Khuten at his residence near the city of Pest. This caused a riot between the now leaderless cuman population, who just grabbed their shit and they left the country for Bulgaria while raiding villages on their way down to the Danube and then... they vanished from sources, since hungarian writers didn't mention what happened with them and byzantines didn't mention any cuman presence near their borders. So it's a mystery where they went during this time, but they didn't participated in the rest of the mongolian invasion. After the mongols left Hungary with at least half of the hungarian population killed, Béla called back the cumans to the now empty Hungarian Basin near the today city of Szolnok and Kecskemét, letting them to live in autonomous communities with their own leaders and granted exception from catholicization. The cumans however demanded something to strenghten their position in the country, so crown-prince Stephen was arranged to marry the daughter of Köteny/Köten/Khutan. The cumans remained a strong ally to the crown, as they were a population with high and easy mobilization, so hungarian kings brought cuman warriors to literally everywhere. The son from V. Stephen, and the cuman princess, IV. "Cuman" Ladislaus even became a king (and the last of the line of the Árpád kings, since his successor, III. Andreas was probably a bastard). Cumans were a great help at the Battle of Marchfeld, where the Habsburgs and Ladislaus crushed II. Ottokar of Bohemia, scattering his empire and established Habsburg rule over Austria. However, their pagan status caused controveries abroad and at some point a non-authorized papal legate (he was an idiot without any papal orders to act as an enforcer) forced Ladislaus to lift their religious autonomy, which caused a revolt and they were crushed at the Battle of The Beaver Lake. Their political influence inside Hungary was shattered, they were forced to convert. However cumans were used by the last time during the Hungarian Invasions to Naples, when King Louis the Great tried to take the neapolitan throne (it's a long story, but TL;DR.: Johanna of Naples was a stupid, spouse-killer bitch, who killed his husbad, the brother of Louis). Cumans after this became insignificant, since they assimilated to the local population, what left of them was destroyed during the turkish occupation. The last "native-speaker" (we don't have any evidence about him being an ethnic cuman) died in the late 18th century, only their autonomous region remained, until it was integrated into the new bureaucracy in the 19th century. However, the crown of Hungary kept a hereditary title as "The King of Cumania", which was passed to every Habsburg ruler of Hungary until the end of ww1, when the last king was deposed. However, some people who live in the cuman region just started larping as cumans in the near past, but it's nothing just pathetic local-patriotic larping. We don't even know the language, since it only has 1 written source (some other source exists, but their credibility is controversial) from the late period and it was heavily influenced by hungarian at the point, when it was written down.
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenken8765 No, they don't. Read my other comment, i covered their basic story after they entered Hungary.
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenken8765 It so hilarious how this armchair historians talk about Cumans as if they died out or only survive as hungarian speaking Kuns etc. The Cumans still exist as a people AND as a name. In Siberia today there is a modern day Turkic ethnic group called "Kumandy/Kumandin and there is also the Kumyks of the caucasus while the Kuns of Hungary no longer speak Turkic.
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
​@@teovu5557 The kumandins never claimed themselves to be cumans. The potential "relativity" theory is russian and based on name similarities. At least check on them before you talk about idiocy.
@mikloskeresztes4273
@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын
at 1:31 it is said :"Modern historians generally agree on the origins of the Magyar people based on their language."Have you heard about the recent archaeogenetic findings? They show very different things. The theory of linguistic origins is only a hypothesis, on the other hand, archaeogenetics is an exact science.
@zekun4741
@zekun4741 7 ай бұрын
Hungarian mythology combined with linguistics would imply that Hungarians are a mix of Sarmatian and Ugric peoples, with mostly Sarmatian paternal ancestry, who came in contact with Turkic peoples, possibly were bi-lingual at a time, resulting in the Turkic influence on the language and customs. One thing is true, the Hungarian languages has traits which are very atypical of Finno-Ugric, Turkic and Iranian languages. The Asian Huns or Xiongnu, are also believed based on genetic evidence to be a mix of Scythians and Altaic Asiatic people who emerged from the Altai Mountains. This ties in quite well with the Hungarian-Hun connection.
@gyulaerdei3180
@gyulaerdei3180 Ай бұрын
​@@zekun4741- Ugor = Magyar ! ! ! (Hungary.) :)
@kjmci
@kjmci 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent history video. These are so helpful for my understanding of not just the Ansburg series, but European history as a whole! Thank you!
@vanille864
@vanille864 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you it is well done! :)
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@MrLouChris
@MrLouChris 2 жыл бұрын
Not all magyar family's are still in there homelands, my family is in NY I've been following my history back to the Magyar i am only magyar , Cherokee and Irish to date but I'm still looking into it, just felt like commenting on this, my father has much more info that we are descendants of a warriors tribe from within the magyar..... it's very interesting 🤔
@an4447
@an4447 2 жыл бұрын
I am also a Magyar from NY. My grandfather came from Hungary. I’ve traced my Magyar ancestry back to the 1500’s in Hungary. James Albert Magyar.
@kingaszeleikis482
@kingaszeleikis482 Жыл бұрын
Cherokee, Irish and hungarian blood is an excellent combo! :) Be pride!
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
If I know well, Cheroke(Indians) an Ír are our relatives.
@childabductioninitaly8946
@childabductioninitaly8946 2 күн бұрын
Prof. Grover S. Krantz Geographical development of European languages "... the Greek language, therefore, was present in 6500 BC, Celtic language was born in 3500 BC in Ireland. The greatness of the Hungarian language in the Carpathian Basin is equally surprising; I find that its origin leads to the mesolithic, before the Stone Age. "
@medencilaszlo7442
@medencilaszlo7442 2 жыл бұрын
Titan,és hol van a beszámoló a Pozsonyi csatáról,ahol a Magyarok legyozték az eggyesített német hadsereget? Ebben a csatában a németek minimum kétszeres túleroben harcoltak.A csata 907-ben volt ,és utánna 130 évig nem támadtak a németek Magyarország ellen.
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
Egyéb helyen a hozzászólásokban olvastam, hogy nekik a lechfeldi csata az identitásuk gyökere a német egyesülés miatt. A hátralévő életre ez fog menni. A magyarok hiányossága hogy mi nem készítünk videókat pedig lenne miről. Pontosabban a külföld felé nem készítünk.
@Atilla963
@Atilla963 Жыл бұрын
Magyar, or Hungary(Huns/Hungaria), are 100% Turks. But Turks, who still lived further as christian Turks, they never chose Islam. Ukraine has also 3 big Turkic tribes, blond/brown haired white skinned christian Turks, who still speak our old language. How beautiful. They never forgot who they are and say still we are Turks. My grandpa from my mothers side is Macar(we Turks say it like this). You say Magyar. His family left Europe because of war, that's what he remembers. Centuries ago he said. My fathers side is from Caucausia, Iraq, then Anatolia. My fathers root joined the Anatolian Turks around 1750. We are 100% Turkic. No doubt. Török(Hungarian i think) is also Türük like Turks say. (Whole Europe was Turukki empire in 4000B.C.), Türük/Török means this; Tör-Ök or Tür-Ük. Ök is being changed to Ük with Turks in the east. Tür = Kind, like humankind. Ök(Ük) = OK is also arrow, And Ök look also like Gök(Heaven). So you can see this as symbolic with the 'arrow' pointing in the air and 'Tür' as the kind of people(Turks) on the earth as a circle. So circle(earth), and the arrow pointing in the sky), telling through this word, the mitoloji of the Turks. That we are the humankind that came from the heavens to earth. Türük/Török = The Turks from heaven. Our mitoloji says we are from outside this world. [ This is a MAYAN TABLET translated ] : "Black robes who will attack without getting tired The god who will protect the children of those who come from the sky Two silver-clad stars that will rise on the mainland surrounded by water on three sides MAYA TABLETS" -It refers to Anatolia surrounded by 3 seas. The Turks left hundreds to thousands of Turkic words there in Mexico, they describe the Turks that came with ships. They came through the Mediterranean Sea (Tyrhennia sea, y=u, Turhannia), these are the Sea People who are also described by Greeks, Egyptians, Europeans. Mycanaeans, Minoans. Who use our fish letter 'M' in their decorations. That's the Orhun alphabet letter 'M' for their names. Etruscan, Troy, Scythians, Pelasgians, Hittits, Frygians(My village is called Pirikli/Firikli, li is a referring to someones roots, like -an, in Americ-an, looks like Fryg, Firik). There is also not a Greek civilization, but Turkic. Herodotus wrote about these Turks, nomads and deacribed how they lived and who they were, he was a Greek scholar around 400B.C. and he writes, "he travelled" to Anatolia. This means Greeks were definetly not there in 400B.C. and back. Don't forget your roots, we all are not the same as European people and don't come from here, you belong like me to the Turkic family. We are the people of Mu. We are the Turkics who brought civilization to the world. They describe us that we came here to Europe. My grandpa from mothers side, his family came to Anatolia because there was a war in Europe against Turks. In this way the Huns dissapeared (300A.D.), there was an Avar Empire in Central Europe (500-800A.D.) also dissapeared, they also went to Anatolia. Many Turks left Europe. The ones left over are assimilated here in the European region and live forth as christians like the Turkics also were. Christianity is a religion brought by Turkics to the west. And Turkics are described by Mayans and chinese (also others), as Blond hair, white skin, Brown hair white skin, Black hair, white skin, Black hair brown skin. With different colors eyes, green, blue, brown. Turkics are not 1 race, we are the folks who inhabited the continent Mu. And spread from there to the whole world. All religions are Turkic, and all prophets all Turkic. They all come from Noah --> Yafes. We Turks come from Yafes. Mozes, Jesus, Muhammed all come from the Turkic bloodline, Noah --> Yafes --> then Abraham. Don't believe the yudean semites, they are not the jewisch folk. The line of Abraham and Sara where Mozes comes from is Turkic. Because semites, yudeans, arabs don't come from Yafes. Now the folk of which Sara comes from claims everything. That Abraham is their grandfather. While Abraham is not Sara's father but husband, and Abraham is also not the father of Sara's family, and not the father of Sara's folk. This means they are not from Abraham. And the racial etnic jewisch folk never existed,100% not. They made this up in the times of Mozes. From Mozes to Abraham there is 900/1000years between it. Abraham named his creator Kenger, that comes from Tengir, Tingir, Dingir. It all means Tengri, the old Turkic 1 creator religion before all these Abrahamistic religions. These religions are continuations of all the religions from the same creator. And there were 12 tribes that were jew in the same time periods, Yudea existed near Isrealsons, and there were 10 jewisch tribes back then. So who is the jew? They referred to Mozes his bloodline, thus Turkics. Not yudeans or whatever. And the Sumerians are Turkic, this is the region of the cradle of civilization. The Turkic language, and their dna is the closest to Turks. In Anatolia and Azerbaycan. That's why these yudeans say your mother has to be jew to be jew, they actually mean, you need to have the Turkic blood to be jew. That's the condition to be a real jew. And that folk of Sara don't come out of Sara? Sara has just their roots. If they all are jew, than all other tribes are also jew!!!! And the heritage of Abraham is not for these jews? No for his own offspring. Why should he give his heritage to other people. The holylands in total are the heritage of all Turks. All offspring of Abraham. The children of Sara, the children of Hacer and the children of Kanturah. These are all Turkic, and line of Mozes and Muhammed are half Turkic/semite and half Turkic arab. But they lived in those periods between all these people. It doesn't make a Turkic folk suddenly jew or arab when they marry 1 Sara or 1 Hacer. - David Erwin Jr - Tartaria - History is a lie - Gene D. Matlock - What Strange Mystery Unites the Turkish Nations, India, Catholicism, and Mexico? - Prof. Dr. Cengiz Karaşarlı - The Lost Turkic Civilization in the Mediteranean Sea. - Atatürk - The Sun Language - Jack Churchward - The Stone Amulets of Mu - Jack Churchward - The Children of Mu - George Tomkins - The Times of Abraham - Ahmet Reyiz Yılmaz - Bir Ibrahim Kavgası (An Abraham Fight) - between Turks and Jews. Dna and language translations of tablets of the last centuries proved that Turks are right. - Özgür Barış Etli - Sahte Sarışın (Fake blond) - Hüseyin Hakkı Kahveci - Atatürkün Yasaklanan Kitabı (Atatürks Forbidden Book)
@tamaszlav
@tamaszlav 3 жыл бұрын
The pre-history of the Magyars are so completely wrong, and based on extremely outdated theories. Magyars did not have a long migration, they started moving West from the Urals only at the beginning of the 9th century. Levedia was not in the heart of Kazaria, it was somewhere east of the Volga river. Magna Hungaria is not a homeland of the Magyars, a portion of them moved there from Levedia after the first Pecheneg war, while the rest moved to Etelköz. The ones, who later settled in the Carpathian basin never set foot in that region. The Magyars have not taken part of the Khazar infighting, or if they have, there are no sources of that.
@tamaszlav
@tamaszlav 3 жыл бұрын
Also, LOL at the map of Old (not Great) Moravia.
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
@@tamaszlav Mostly true. Great Moravia is another question. We know that a slavic (probably moravian) state existed near Lake Balaton. And some new theory says that it's possible, that there were two moravian states. One up in the north between the Danube and Prague and another one between Lake Balaton and the Száva River.
@AhmadAltibi
@AhmadAltibi 2 жыл бұрын
Well that’s mean they’re not originally from the Carpathian Mountains!! So why they claim it from Romania!
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
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@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
dna evidence.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@robertdeak9071
@robertdeak9071 Жыл бұрын
I am Szekely..a sub group of the Magyars
@SaveWesternCivilisation
@SaveWesternCivilisation 2 жыл бұрын
This is sensational stuff, wild horsemen terrorising Europe, there ought to be more of it today, it would liven things up. On top of that, I can use some of this info to torment my Hungarian friends. 😃
@LG-jm1io
@LG-jm1io Жыл бұрын
Those wild horsemen brought the saddle, stirrup, spoon, fork, pants, underwear, boots, jacket, soup, astronomy and etc to the cultured Europe. Until then they wrapped their ass with a piece of clothes called toga. Good reason for the brave westerners to know they learned culture from the barbarians.
@gyulaerdei3180
@gyulaerdei3180 Ай бұрын
Ősi - műveltség alapitó nép a Magyar ! ! ! (Grower S. Krancz.) Nyelve - ősnyelv ! ..... :)
@yourmum8434
@yourmum8434 2 жыл бұрын
The word "magyar" is not pronounced "May-Gar". This is one among many incorrect pronunciations I've heard from non-Hungarian speakers. It is not "Ma(as in cat)-Gee-Yar" either. And no, americans, it isn't "Mo(as in stop)-Jar" either. This is how Magyar is pronounced: Both of the 'A's r pronounced the same, u pronounce them like the 'a' in car, without the hard R and shorten it slightly. 'Gy' in hungarian has NO ENGLISH EQUIVALENT, but it is something like a J (as in Jar) and Y (as in Yes) being said at the same time. U press the tongue onto the pallet gently and make a 'y' sound. And the 'R' is just a rolled R.
@shomurodov_fan_page9254
@shomurodov_fan_page9254 Жыл бұрын
In uzbekistan therr several villages called mojar and madiyar in neighbour kazakhstan
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 9 ай бұрын
@@shomurodov_fan_page9254 we call magars as ugri only.
@shomurodov_fan_page9254
@shomurodov_fan_page9254 9 ай бұрын
@@teovu5557 oghur was old turkic in our languages too
@somebodyontheinternet1090
@somebodyontheinternet1090 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused what this and cities skylines have to do with this?
@susanlegeza7562
@susanlegeza7562 6 ай бұрын
Not “Fasty” but Festy!
@gurcanozcan4590
@gurcanozcan4590 2 жыл бұрын
Where is Onogurs?
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Scythia-Parthia_100_BC.png
@ellieantar809
@ellieantar809 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. I had no idea who they were but researched them as my DNA test came back and apparently I am 26% Magyars
@Keopp69
@Keopp69 3 жыл бұрын
Same story here. Well, only 5% but I had no idea whom these people were.
@wisesurvival6850
@wisesurvival6850 2 жыл бұрын
I have so much, like 60% because they are genetically similar to Scottish, polish, and Welsh. Then 20% Scandinavian... My dna linked to "heathens" all throughout it, my small number was 3% central Asian 🤔 I'm still trying to figure that one out... Silk trade road is what I came up with...
@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171
@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171 Жыл бұрын
@@wisesurvival6850 scandinavian was found amongst conquering hungarians
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
dna evidence.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052
@odilbekb-sarkaev1052 2 жыл бұрын
Madjar-Madyar. The last name is Madyarov in the Uzbekistan.
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
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@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
🤩😍
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
Read "The Oera Linda" for the oldest account of the Magyar
@amirhanabatamurmahkto9373
@amirhanabatamurmahkto9373 Ай бұрын
Magyar was the sub-tribe of ancient Korean Kingdom “”””Kuri (Kori ==Gori ==Gogureo)””” They were the main Nomad tribe of Kuri Kingdom Later they changed their name “””Mongol”” and was called “”””Magyar”” in Pannonia Plain
@amirhanabatamurmahkto9373
@amirhanabatamurmahkto9373 Ай бұрын
Of course There is NO real Magyar (Malgal or Mogol in ancient Korean term)in Pannonia plain now The real Magyar who were Korean (Mongolian) now all disappeared or eliminated in mid-eastern Europe
@attilatasciko4817
@attilatasciko4817 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, köszi
@Dai_Abdurrahman
@Dai_Abdurrahman 3 жыл бұрын
Genau mein content grusse
@youknowmyfirstlastname3206
@youknowmyfirstlastname3206 2 жыл бұрын
Well Ural mountain with aral sea same meaning
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
bactria part of scythian imperior........upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Scythia-Parthia_100_BC.png
@youknowmyfirstlastname3206
@youknowmyfirstlastname3206 Жыл бұрын
@@attilakovacs1415 nope
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@youknowmyfirstlastname3206 people lie ... especially the winners of wars ..and the colonizers ...... genetics doesn't lie ..... you still have a lot to learn ....
@youknowmyfirstlastname3206
@youknowmyfirstlastname3206 Жыл бұрын
@@attilakovacs1415 baqtrea and sogdia both was under Persian empire. Hepthates was forming near currently day Kazakhstan.
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@youknowmyfirstlastname3206 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactria
@letsspeakhungarian6626
@letsspeakhungarian6626 Жыл бұрын
Genetic origin of magyars, Árpád dynasty: docs.google.com/document/d/1KiX9L2c2y2IibmFyW-dSQqhUO7SwB5ohb88jo5Pv5BU/edit?usp=drivesdk
@virgilbulai7809
@virgilbulai7809 3 жыл бұрын
My ancestors
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
Love from Hungary 🇭🇺
@latakicsi2183
@latakicsi2183 Жыл бұрын
What about 907 when 2/3 of Bavarian noblemen died?? Amyway today avarege hungarian has like 2-3% of Hun dnas and - conquering Hungarians origineted from Huns, Goths and Sarmatians...1100 years ago when conquering Hungarians invaded Panon-plain were only 10% of the population
@chengezhussaini1464
@chengezhussaini1464 3 жыл бұрын
They originated as the Scythians coming from northeast Afghanistan
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
No, they don't. Scythians were indo-european, closer to the persians. Hungarian isn't an indo-european language.
@zoardszabo
@zoardszabo 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're talking about their ruling dynasty who indeed originated there
@adriennekulcsar7734
@adriennekulcsar7734 2 жыл бұрын
@@StalkerQtya .....thank you.....
@schytoyamnaya9015
@schytoyamnaya9015 2 жыл бұрын
@@StalkerQtya Schytians were considered speaking iranic language, but they were ethnically not really close to persians, more like eastern-europeans. As well Hungarian can be uralic language, but hungarians dont really have real blood realitves in finns, mansi and kahnty and other finno-ugric languaged people. The relative connections between languages does nit mean having relative connection between ethnicyties. Linguistic relation can be created in many more ways
@goddessIv
@goddessIv 2 жыл бұрын
This 💗
@Viv8ldi
@Viv8ldi 2 жыл бұрын
My Surname is Khazar, I aks myself wether I am a decendent of the Khazarian trype
@hun44k56
@hun44k56 2 жыл бұрын
The Hungarian language is not Finno-Ugric language. By the MTA is a forced theory, but bleeding from several wounds. We have more common words with the Turks. Much more, several thousands with the so called sumerian one. What the Finno-Ugric people using as similar words, they took it from the original Hungarian language. The source of the common words is the point, the facts. Not any foggy theory.
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's not. The most ancient words are clearly originated from the Ural ugrians, so the language itself is finno-ugric at the base. The turanian theory isn't standing in any feet, but pathetically trying to establish turkish similarities with nit-picking and anti-Habsburg sentiment. On the other hand, ethnicity is another question. The migratory population was a mess in the 8th century, consisting many different tribes and auxiliary population, which makes the whole ethnical controversy pointless. You can't make a strong standing point, while you are trying to find solid material in a bowl of soup. But today's population is fairly easy to determine. 1.000+ years of living in a slavic and german enviroment payed a heavy toll on language and ethnicity both. Todays hungarians have more similarities with slavs and germans, rather than finns or turks. Culturally the country is western slavic with heavy german elements.
@szakaattila7899
@szakaattila7899 2 жыл бұрын
@@StalkerQtya You are very wrong, the real origin of the hungarians is what the great american anthropologist Grover S. Krantz wrote in his work, Geographical Development of European Languages: „Given these objections the actual Uralic-speaking distributions would allow only one alternative explanation - that the family originated in Hungary and spread out in the opposite direction. This poses no serious problem if the time for this origin and dispersion is put at the earliest Neolithic (i.e. farming). If this is true it means that Hungarian (Magyar) is actually the oldest in-place language in all of Europe.” And Michelangelo Naddeo, Italian researcher, who believes that „the first civilization in Europe had already appeared in the Neolithic and it belonged to the ancient people living in the Carpathian Basin, the Hungarians.” And Dr. Peter Revesz, from University of Nebraska at Lincoln, who established the West-Ugric language family it was in Carpathian basin and Danube valley, and it's very similar with Minoan and Hattic language! And Mario Alinei, Italian linguist and professor emeritus at the University of Utrecht, who established that etruscan language was an archaic form of hungarian language, because they migrated from the Carpathian basin in Italy! This is the real origin of the Hungarians!
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
​@@szakaattila7899 TL;DR.: You are wrong. --- This research is highly selective about the sources, pretty much what you want to support your already established point-of-view. Grover S. Krantz.: He was an anthropologhist, not a linguists, neither an archeologist. Especially not qualified in eastern european history, so i won't take his words seriously in this topic (even if he was a big leading voice behind human evolution theories) And since he was a pretty controversial figure, like he was a huge bigfoot and other cryptid fan and researcher, i will not accept anything from him with face value. Especially if i can find bigger names in the topic (Kristó or Győrffy) Michelangelo Naddeo: Naddeo is a hobby-historian, not even a qualified one. He is clearly biased about the topic, and his research is selective as fuck. Like he brought up some controversial cultural evidence, for-example: religion or ancient writing, completely ignoring other possible (and more likely) explanations. I never really touched his bullshit and i never inteded to bring myself in that sinkhole. But i remember him comparing an ancient-italian badge to a hungarian one. The italian one, we didn't really know anything about, because it depicted a vulture, which was a sacred bird in most italian cultures from an era when it could belong to anyone. While the hungarian one is... yeah, you guessed it, it was a turul. So he just guessed, that the italian badge was etruscan (which is possible, but just as possible that it was roman, non-roman latin or literally anything else) and it's a turul, because it was similar, so it's hungarian and that means it's an evidence to etrusc-hungarian continuity. No, it's not. There are tons of other more likely and simple explanations. Like maybe the two different authors came to the same artistic conclusion. This type of research isn't far from the romano-dacian continuity, and it's a shame when someone is just so stupid that he accepts something like this in face-value, because he is insecure and want's to be more special through his imaginative nationality. Dr. Peter Revesz: Never heard from this guy. Give me some source. Mario Alinei.: It's a sad story. Alinei was a really bright mind when he was younger and a really good example to "Die before your mental health kick the bucket". The etruscan theory was from his late years. But first, let me clear some things: He wasn't "professor emeritus at the University of Utrecht" when he came up with the paleolithic continuity theory. He retired in 1996 due to his demenishing physical and mental health. His main work was this paleolithic continuity theory, which is a controversial topic. But it basically says, that indo-europeans never "invaded" Europe, but slowly migrated into their respective territories, influencing the local population culturally and linguistically. So many of the now existing european nations were set in their place from the stone age, which one is a correct and stupid theory in the first place, but not here. He wrote the so-called hungaro-etruscan continuity bullshit 7 years after his retirement. He wasn't complete in mind, since he was in his late 70's at this point. The most laughable thing about this, is that he wrote several other books after 2003 and for-some-reason none of them were released in hungarian. But some to get you to the point: He stated, that Atlantis was a neolithic super-civilization of the celtic people and they built the western european megalithic structures; The etruscans were turks (there is no hungarian thread in this book, so he ditched the theory or completetely forgot about this, since he wrote this 10 years after.) and that's it. He mostly used genetic similarities between ancient etruscan burial sites and late medieval anatolian turks, which is highly controversial, since one possible origin theory of the etruscans is an anatolian exodus, while anatolian turks probably mixed with the local population. No, this isn't the real origin of the hungarians. Edd meg szépen a répát a tányér széléről és menj vissza csicsikálni, hagyd a hozzáértő törisekre hogy kitépjék egymás torkát hülyeségek miatt ;)
@StalkerQtya
@StalkerQtya 2 жыл бұрын
​@@szakaattila7899 Never mind, i looked up for Revesz. First: "Computer Science and Engineering" So i can leave the "Dr." behind, since he doesn't got any qualification to use it in historical controversies. But to the point. Oh boy, it was a roadtrip when i tried to read this piece of shit. I can't even get a point how bad this is... It's mostly selective evidence research, based on the still unsolved Linear A type writing from the minoans. Linear A is a strange beast, because we still can't cypher it, while Linear B is basically solved at this point. There is a prof at Elte, called Németh György. He has a special day in a year, when he surveys for idiotic translations. At this point Linear A sources was decyphered as bad finnish poetry, slavic sun-hymn, dacian warehouse catalog and many more. This is probably in his list at this point. Similarities between letters is not a proof, when he tries to compare old hungarian rovás type of writing with linear A. Like "this letter has the same amount of lines"... Really!? Nitpicked words from hungarian-mansi and greek, while Linear A wasn't bound to any language, but was mostly used by minoan's and ancient anatolians, not by classical greeks. "who established the West-Ugric language family" I don't think you ever read it or even heard about this work -_- Just someone told you about this guy and rolled with the name, like a "Dr." can know better while he is a computer engineer. But let me help you. www.academia.edu/38843730/Establishing_the_West-Ugric_Language_Family_with_Minoan_Hattic_and_Hungarian_by_a_Decipherment_of_Linear_A
@szakaattila7899
@szakaattila7899 2 жыл бұрын
@@StalkerQtyaIt is clear, you are a neoliberal anti-Hungarian propagandist! Elárulod mennyit fizetnek neked, hogy mindenhol terjeszd ezeket a hazugságokat?
@MosherChris93
@MosherChris93 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here because I like the Magyars in Age of Empires 2 xD
@gyulaerdei3180
@gyulaerdei3180 Ай бұрын
EURÓPA ŐSNÉPE ..... ! ! ! :) *
@VicaCica72
@VicaCica72 Жыл бұрын
We are not Finno-Ugric From the publication: The genetic origin of Huns, Avars, and conquering Hungarians Huns, Avars, and conquering Hungarians were migration-period nomadic tribal confederations that arrived in three successive waves in the Carpathian Basin between the 5th and 9th centuries. Based on the historical data, each of these groups are thought to have arrived from Asia, although their exact origin and relation to other ancient and modern populations have been debated. Recently, hundreds of ancient genomes were analyzed from Central Asia, Mongolia, and China, from which we aimed to identify putative source populations for the above-mentioned groups. In this study, we have sequenced 9 Hun, 143 Avar, and 113 Hungarian conquest period samples and identified three core populations, representing immigrants from each period with no recent European ancestry. Our results reveal that this "immigrant core" of both Huns and Avars likely originated in present day Mongolia, and their origin can be traced back to Xiongnus (Asian Huns), as suggested by several historians. On the other hand, the "immigrant core" of the conquering Hungarians derived from an earlier admixture of Mansis, early Sarmatians, and descendants of late Xiongnus. We have also shown that a common "proto-Ugric" gene pool appeared in the Bronze Age from the admixture of Mezhovskaya and Nganasan people, supporting genetic and linguistic data. In addition, we detected shared Hun-related ancestry in numerous Avar and Hungarian conquest period genetic outliers, indicating a genetic link between these successive nomadic groups. Aside from the immigrant core groups, we identified that the majority of the individuals from each period were local residents harboring "native European" ancestry.
@MihaDuV
@MihaDuV 3 жыл бұрын
Were the Magyars ethnically Asian when they invaded Europe?
@tamaszlav
@tamaszlav 3 жыл бұрын
No
@hungarianhistoryiii.1359
@hungarianhistoryiii.1359 3 жыл бұрын
no.
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 3 жыл бұрын
Only 15 percent.
@perkele4176
@perkele4176 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 why
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
@@perkele4176 Because the 9th century graves they tested yielded that. link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12520-019-00996-0
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
Huns they are
@existencebeyond5398
@existencebeyond5398 2 жыл бұрын
There is no finnougrian background.... and you talk a lot of BS!
@gustory1186
@gustory1186 Жыл бұрын
Source?
@sudipmagadh7183
@sudipmagadh7183 3 жыл бұрын
we are decedent of 28 buddha(buddha born in lumbini nepal) we are shakberia ppl later became shakya in india n nepal and our language is pali language !! may b few buddh decedent ppl went to middle east to spread buddhist n reach there children's in europe
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
Greetings brother. We Hungarians are Sakya. 🇭🇺
@calvinsuu1949
@calvinsuu1949 Жыл бұрын
Huns and other asian nomadic groups.....
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 Жыл бұрын
Language doesnt prove a thing People move Scottish are vikings speak celtic they say
@ferenccsonka7870
@ferenccsonka7870 Жыл бұрын
A bit of curiosity. In the Takla Makan desert in China, thousands of years old preserved graves have been found, the deceased have European characteristics, and the color and pattern of their clothing completely matches the traditional Scottish fabric pattern of today. 😊
@jagdishhooda7853
@jagdishhooda7853 Жыл бұрын
Maggar are kondu Huns They are goths(jats) people In india and nepal The royal family of nepal Were maggar
@robertberger4203
@robertberger4203 2 жыл бұрын
The closest languages to Hungarian are the Khant and Mansi languages of western Siberia . These three languages make up the Ugrian branch of the Finno-Ugrian language family . Because of over a thousand years of separation , they are not at all mutually intelligible , but if you compare them, you can see how obviously related they are . The Khant and Mansi are hunters, fishermen and reindeer breeders , and. have mongoloid features but with some caucasian. admixture . Some bear a striking resemblance to some. American Indians . There are only about 30,000 Khant and Mansi left, the majority being Khant . and their languages are unfortunately close to extinction because. all of them speak Russian and. they are mostly spoken by the older. generation .
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
dna evidence.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
semmi közünk a finnugorokhoz
@letsspeakhungarian6626
@letsspeakhungarian6626 Жыл бұрын
This is why Hungarian - Mansi is similar not because of finno-ugric kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH-oY6Kgocp-gqc
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@letsspeakhungarian6626 mansi not finno-ugroc...mansi scytha.....genetics evidence....
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@letsspeakhungarian6626 the Mansiks and Hungarians are Scythians..but the Mansiks migrated to the north..to the Urals...and the Hungarians to the southwest.....separated from each other...
@AhmadAltibi
@AhmadAltibi 2 жыл бұрын
Central Asian origin! Very interesting
@szakaattila7899
@szakaattila7899 2 жыл бұрын
The real origin of the hungarians is what the great american anthropologist Grover S. Krantz wrote in his work, Geographical Development of European Languages: „Given these objections the actual Uralic-speaking distributions would allow only one alternative explanation - that the family originated in Hungary and spread out in the opposite direction. This poses no serious problem if the time for this origin and dispersion is put at the earliest Neolithic (i.e. farming). If this is true it means that Hungarian (Magyar) is actually the oldest in-place language in all of Europe.”
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
dna evidence.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@florinalfonse4163
@florinalfonse4163 Жыл бұрын
Very aggressive both yesterday and today!
@Maszat1993
@Maszat1993 Жыл бұрын
Hungarians now days moving as well, like their true nature. I feel more connected to the nomads rather the Christen Hungarians. That is why listening some history get my knowledge grow
@mikloskeresztes4273
@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын
So the Hungarians were able to walk through Asia easily, entered the middle of Europe, occupied the very well-defended Carpathian basin, and then kept the whole of Western Europe in terror. Do you think a small weak nation can do this?
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@ekesandras1481
@ekesandras1481 Жыл бұрын
actually the Magyars were fleeing from the more powerful Pechenegs behind them and conquered part of the lands of their nomadic predecessors, the Bolgars had owned, who had also fled the Pontic steps in fear of more powerful enemies. The Bolgars had just recently conquered Pannonia from the Avars, another Eurasian nomadic tribal confederation that had also fled the Pontic steps and established itself in Pannonia, as did the Goths before them, who also lived at the shores of the Black Sea before they crossed the Carpathians in a panicked flight from the Huns at their back. Do you see the pattern?
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@ekesandras1481 a magyarok szkíták..genetikai bizonyíték..r1 a1 z 93 haplocsoport.....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@ekesandras1481 bactria....skytia...upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Scythia-Parthia_100_BC.png
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@ekesandras1481 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4eWp2aoq7WFnKc
@stevek3100
@stevek3100 2 жыл бұрын
Hun Magyar= King Skíta, Trogus Pompeus, the oldest kultur, the 1 kultur on the eart! Skíta, Bulgár, Polák, Horvát, part from Ukrajna, Etrusk, Sumér, Pártus, Ujgur, Kazach, Tadzsik, Üzbég, Whit Huns from India,(Sákja Muni), Kumann, nations from Kaukázus, turkis nations.
@rolanddownunder
@rolanddownunder Жыл бұрын
that is rubish,do more reserch
@hondacbrification
@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it is not history focused or factual but rather fictional.There where no German people 1500 years ago neither can they or others in the region even explain the meaning of they identity or it’s capital or what was the culture like pre Roman era since it was a part of GaL tribal coalition which is why MiLán Northern Italian city is directly connected to ULán Bátor MonGolian Capital and both have a meaning in MagYarl language who unlike so called German people actually called themselves UnGar,VenGer,WanGer,VanGer,HonGri,Ugri,Ugar…where so called Germans have never called themselves G ALman,ALeMan….but claimed to be Deutsch,Duci,Daci…which a Latinised version of D Ak from the same root word Meaning Acorn for a Oak Tree was sacred to GaL from PortuGaL all the way to BenGaL,MuGhaL and MonGolia where MuGhaL actually used the Oak branches as part of they identity and acorn which is something that RoMan has adopted as well since they where surrounded by GaL who mainly where Ginger and Brown haired and not Blonde at that time.Which why so called SLav meaning BUgar has called themselves With Lion for they where with Ugars who called themselves A Lán meaning The Lion while more western groups used the word Löwe for Lion and not Lav hence they become calling themselves SLöwen from which later SLoven derived after Ottoman invasion and with them Serbian influence in the region as part of they and other Orthodoxy alliance with Ottomans.
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Scythia-Parthia_100_BC.png
@madameagnes7548
@madameagnes7548 2 жыл бұрын
Very far from the truth!!!!!
@Hazardteam
@Hazardteam 2 жыл бұрын
Very funny fake fairytales :)
@alexandrmelchior
@alexandrmelchior Жыл бұрын
This movie is a huge lie.
@kedarpatwa5419
@kedarpatwa5419 2 жыл бұрын
so much of misinformation, sad that KZbin is full of these.
@hoticeparty
@hoticeparty 6 ай бұрын
Misinformation in the comments or the video? Literally everyone here is saying different things and speaking like it's an undisputed fact.
@hondacbrification
@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын
This nonsense fiction of Roman-Greeks who are not GaL but a southern intruders in to GaL tribal land which stretched from PortuGaL all the way to BenGal and MonGolia. MagYars where not Christianised but Romans have been for Tian-Sian had they culture 2000BCE.MakArska as city was founded and existed at the time when it was no Roman or Greek culture in any form or shape which is why EtRUSCan(Hán,Ján,Cán,Bán) are native source culture which is why SKanDiNav call themselves. It is to say that simply because Han moved between Eastern Sian land and West they become somehow conquerors or foreigners in they own land is absolutely ridiculous like the whole Evropean identity since it hasn’t existed even 1000 years ago like the whole none sense this identity lost people call history written by Greek-a Roman paid scribes. It’s enough to look at the R1A and R1B Haplogroup and debunk all the fictions of Evropean identities which simply don’t want admit that they had backwarded people like the Roman Empire which why they are trying to go around and have invented Indo-Evropean fiction since they can’t acknowledge the fact why they have Loan words from Hindu Kush area . Being actually a Makai unlike AusTriJan who claim to have come from TroJan my genetics actually are found in Árpádian basin even 2000BCE.
@mihaiserban5746
@mihaiserban5746 2 жыл бұрын
magyars? you mean BOZGORS?
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
roman fiktion nation.......fiktion...not cultur...not civilization..--
@hungarienness
@hungarienness Жыл бұрын
This is not a Trianon topic.
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
@@hungarienness kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@attilakovacs1415
@attilakovacs1415 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYe9gnyXbdSZf7s
@ATTILA84
@ATTILA84 2 жыл бұрын
Fake video!
@Dr.Jegesmedve
@Dr.Jegesmedve 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@50tisic
@50tisic Жыл бұрын
The German chronicler Otto of Freising, a participant in the Second Crusade, who passed through Hungary in 1147, published the following contemporary testimony about the old Hungarians in his work Acts of Emperor Friedrich I.: The aforementioned Hungarians have flat ugly faces, sunken eyes, and are short in stature. Their language and manners are barbaric and wild, so one can rightly blame fate, or rather admire God's patience, which - I wouldn't even say to people, but to some kind of human monsters - gave such a beautiful country.
@charleshall6357
@charleshall6357 3 ай бұрын
I am a Magyar everyone in my family has East Asian dna markers
@mikloskeresztes4273
@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын
at 1:31 it is said :"Modern historians generally agree on the origins of the Magyar people based on their language."Have you heard about the recent archaeogenetic findings? They show very different things. The theory of linguistic origins is only a hypothesis, on the other hand, archaeogenetics is an exact science.
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