Slowest Player Alive Gets To 1700 in AoE2 With This Strategy

[@Phillink]

1 - 6 Food 7 - 8 Wood 9 Boar 10 Food at TC 11 House and lure Boar 12 Food at TC 13 Mill and then Berrys 14 - 15 Wood === FEUDAL AGE === 3 From Food to Mine Stone 5 From Food to Build Tower

[@MrPlannerAoE]

MVP

[@giovanifatobeni2495]

I love how the title of "slowest player alive" kind of implies that there may have been a slower player than him, but he's dead and no one knows who he was

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Yeah, all my slow friends are gone now and I'm the only one left.🥲

[@husainjam]

Also that a player slower than him isnt born yet

[@orionl7406]

@@husainjam that could be true, the game is 20 years old and in another 20 there could be another Hera, but slow!

[@nagatidur3254]

of course his opponent lol

[@Emp._Peter]

"Back in my time!"

[@TheBloofyx]

"slowest player alive" my dad plays campaigns on easy difficulty and spends hours and hours building a pretty base and converting the enemy troops to bypass the pop limit 😭

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Awesome 🤣

[@JonathanGarciaRey]

Sounds like me in the 90's I should do that again. Doin triple wall

[@otis4283]

He is a legend

[@RAMMY237]

sounds lovely, I used to do that in early 00-s as well :)

[@ut7746]

Religious victory

[@paladin866]

Nice Video, as RTS player I know a lot of people hate early game strats but I think it is also part of the game and what you played is on a high level and you have my respect for playing such a good game ggs

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Ty, gg!

[@hjpev6469]

Your editing and commentary is really good. The fact that you speed up between slow parts of the game really separates you from a lot of the other aoe2 commentators I’ve seen

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Oh, thank you!

[@aoe2monsta]

great gameplay. I enjoy the play styles that is based on strategy rather then fast clicking. thanks

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Strategy over APM! 😎

[@NapKingCole84]

I got red phosphoru'd at 1100, now I'll see Mr slow tower rushes 😂

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Sorry in advance!

[@thescottishtraveller]

What was the castle time of an 1100 phosphoru? lol

[@exinexi]

That's quite a cool strat, sir. GG and congrats! I don't think this will go much further as this relies on the opponents (lack of) scouting, but it's good to know you went so far with it.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Agreed. But nowadays everyone is greedy with deer, I feel like noone scouts anymore.

[@WillyMacShow]

i think this format for videos can do well in the AOE space. Maybe you need to find a better titling theme to get people in the door. But you are onto something. Very interesting video. Enjoyed!

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Ty!

[@shadowsun4055]

That's why AOE 2 is a great game. Even though a big part of the game is mechanics, strategy is still extremely important and you can win games only based on that. It's a nice balance between mechanic skill and strategy.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Completely agree with you. And it's one of the main reasons why I love this game.

[@jozefwoo8079]

I play Mongols a lot, I tried this strat with Mongols a couple times and I went from 1400 to 1250 😀

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Guess It doesn't always work 😅 my bad.

[@Rare.99]

THIS IS WHY I LOVE AND HATE THIS GAME. If i try to have fun, i lose, if i get sweaty and min/max everything and learn the build orders, I start winning. I just want to play without thinking about all the numbers

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Then do that. Forget about ELO and have fun. My theory is that lower elo players enjoy this game much more than the pros.

[@garethsentry]

Agreed​@@MrPlannerAoE

[@RAMMY237]

you lose with "having fun" strats at sweaty level, it's expected, just play for fun and you will reach the elo level that matches your favorite style. As an option - have two accounts: one to play just for fun, and the other for cyber sportsmanship :D

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

​@@MrPlannerAoEOh I definitely do, whenever i climb too much I purposely lose games and play out of random just enjoying the game. Then when I am low enough I can climb back up playing how I want 🤷‍♂️

[@TheAtl0001]

Before Incas were nerfed, ie vills were impacted by blacksmith immediately (not having to wait for castle age) plus house population bonus (like a wood bonus) and stone bonus, Tower strategy was very hard to beat. Worst case "boxing" matches with strong vills in feudal age.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Yup, I remember that. There was a guy, around 2k, that kept Inca tower rushing me. I knew it was gonna happen and I still couldn't stop it 11

[@rickychardzz]

I remember a time when towers was meta with vivi OP. I would play hd after a long day of work just to see my ennemi tower rush me into rage quit. Thanks mr. Slow to bring back these memories in DE 😂😂

[@MrPlannerAoE]

You're more than welcome!

[@RAMMY237]

2:46 to avoid being spotted, probably better have your scout acting as your eyes, at this very moment right there :)

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Yes, maybe it wasn't the best strategy to let the opponent eat my scout with the TC 😅

[@krustenkak5129]

I saw this video one pop up in my recommended a few days ago. Since then I couldn’t find it. So glad I can now enjoy it 😊 Keep up the good work 👍🏻

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Thanks for finding it! 11

[@acamilicko]

I so much love all these various strats, I got so border archer/scout rushes damn it is boring. I'm a great fan of phosphoru FC, Hoand DR and FC combinations etc :) Just keep on!

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I'll try some more :P

[@kai-uweblumberg1284]

For me, as someone who nearly spends his whole time in 4v4 BF no Rush unranked lobbies - I hated that playstyle so much.😅 Now i want to improve my 1v1, learned one Build order but still sucked. I will try your Style, because i think it is actually really fun. It seems like the Perfect strat for me, cause i Just want to play a bit without sweating too much and enjoy the Game. Thats the reason i also dont like watching pro games. Seems boring for me. Low elo legends are so much More fun to watch and play😂

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Good luck, hope it works!

[@Aoedam]

My favorite 2v2 strat is my ally Mongol tower rushes at 19 pop while I follow up with 21pop Malian MAA. It works like half of the time, and it’s fun.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Wouldn't wanna be against u guys 😋

[@Aoedam]

@@MrPlannerAoE 😂😂it’s certainly not a good time for the player getting teamed up on

[@umamifriends]

this is the most inspiring aoe2 video I've seen. we're about the same speed but I'm hardstuck around 1500, def trying this out!

[@MrPlannerAoE]

😄Hope it goes well!

[@sixstrongguys]

Hope to see more or ur play, very inspiring. At lower level like 1200 ELO is good

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Thanks, I'll try my best!

[@RudyW97]

I also do this, and I have an amazing tip: everytime you kill a villager, make a farm!

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I didn't kill any vils this game until castle age. That is not a good advice! 11

[@fadhilyudistira8819]

this comment somehow has the same vibe as "you've finished a task, time for some self reward!"

[@geoffreywingfield1793]

Great vid and well done building a strat that finds you success !

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Thanks!

[@EnesKaraboga]

This is a sort of thing that is awesome when done to other people but very annoying when done to you 11

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I love it when people trush me tho 11 maybe it's just me 😅

[@au.realestate]

Nice! What's your mod that shows tower range? Liking how it's got different colours.

[@Danielscottrhoades]

You don't need a mod, you just need to dig in the game settings a bit.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

It's in the game settings I think (building range indicator or something). But in this case, I was using CaptureAge to play the recording.

[@au.realestate]

@@MrPlannerAoE cheers!!

[@wombolino2343]

"slowest player alive", yet roughly 10 times my APM and micro. Guess I must be not alive then.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

You make 2 clicks per minute?

[@wombolino2343]

@@MrPlannerAoE Well, obviously, "10x" is not true in the literal sense. But according to Aoe2Insights, my EAPM often sits comfortably in the single digits, so yes - way slower than you. But then again, I'm only 950 elo as well.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@wombolino2343 oh alright...considering ur apm, ur elo is pretty good!

[@allanbenny8436]

then only reason i am watching this is because cute turtle and my fav keep

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Good enough reason to me!

[@ShadowBeetle]

good job, will try for sure!

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Let me know how it goes!

[@HyunAOP]

I do this with Georgians and its much better with mule cart. Got to 1600 easy Saying it works with mongols undersells the trush strategy imo. And i know Teutons can counter this

[@MrPlannerAoE]

There's def. other civs that are good at this strat. Probably even better as u say. I just like mongols because of the fast up time. And also, I do not own Georgians DLC yet 11

[@HyunAOP]

​@MrPlannerAoE ah that's fair Also Georgians actually get better towers the longer the game goes on And monaspa is the only heavy cavalry UU that's not a camel that can chase mangudai

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@HyunAOP 7, didnt know that. Thx for the tip!

[@adarshapandey4873]

i do a similar strat with mongols. but it's phospuru rush with mangudai dont make more than 20-21 vills.

[@The_Nice_King]

Great video. Would staying in feudal and committing to going scouts counter this? Castle age didn't do much for your opponent. 10 fully upgraded scouts would have been devastating at 15-20 min game time when he clicked up especially with some archers.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Maybe, yes. Any attack to my base early on would likely get me in trouble. Maybe I'll do a video on how to defend against such rushes.

[@Edp445IsAPedo96]

@@MrPlannerAoEpls do

[@jackjman5577]

No just build a counter tower when you hit feudal and you have more vills to keep yours up. Tower dmg and health is pathetic so they go down easy and quick and cannot be denied by their tower

[@nicolascalderon9366]

good video, interesting apporach 🏄. I'm slower though 11

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Then u gotta be smarter than me! 😄

[@louisbaber4752]

Whats your apm? I have 15 eapm average (according to aoe2insights, max I ever got is 18) only 1300 elo but never see as slow players as myself at that elo. I only ever go full all in 1tc knights rush, not being able to micro units while booming and prefering to focus on keeping my tc running (never more than 30 sec idle time in a game)

[@MrPlannerAoE]

My eAPM is usually 17-20 on MrSlow. My actual eAPM is around 50-60.

[@louisbaber4752]

​@@MrPlannerAoE ok nice to see I could still grab 400 elo with my current APM!

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@louisbaber4752 For sure! I think u can also become faster, I wasn't always as fast.

[@AOEBYZULFIQAR]

Who knows, maybe his younger brother turned on the game that day.😂 My younger brother does the same. Loses all my ELO.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

😂

[@etc0898]

People don't scout anymore and that is making tower rushing better

[@MrPlannerAoE]

For sure. We should tower rush everyone to make scouting important again! 11

[@__________________________---_]

ah youre making me use the circle feature. Finally my will to prefer aesthetics has lost

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I don't use it when I play tho, because I don't like the way it looks 11 But it would be useful...

[@whyarewestillhere7073]

"Slowest Player Alive"? Is this a challenge?

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Sort of 😄 I intentionally play under 20 eAPM and focus more on the strategy part to show the "slow" guys, that they can do it too!

[@Jim-zw7ul]

really cool strat

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Thanks!

[@PrasenjeetKumarAuthor]

Can you do a one tc push with knights, siege, castles? Apparently that's my favourite strategy. I mean not like Hoang but where you keep pumping out villagers from that one tc continuously.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

From my experience, that doesn't work that well at higher elo, mostly because everyone walls.. if they see you're going all in, they get a castle up asap and then ur push cant do anything anymore.

[@PrasenjeetKumarAuthor]

@@MrPlannerAoE I'm trying to learn the game. Your videos are super helpful. Regarding the 1 TC all-in push, what if the opponent floods your base with 20-30 knights? Will a castle and your tcs and monks enough to stop this without taking too much damage?

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@PrasenjeetKumarAuthor If the enemy isn't walled, a knight raid is great. But if he's walled and doesn't let u in, then it isn't worth it. And a castle is really strong in castle age and can stop most units, knights included.

[@thescottishtraveller]

Interesting video. Doesnt it mean this strategy is bad though if as a 2k player you only get to 1700 with it? Kinda like how fast castle boom in their face works really well until about 14/1500 but after that it sucks unless you wall

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I got to 1700 on my "MrSlow" account where I play with 20 eAPM or less..I was sort of stuck at 1600 playing meta, but the tower rush seems to be quite effective at that ELO.

[@thescottishtraveller]

@MrPlannerAoE ah I see. That makes sense. Getting to 1700 is impressive then

[@attilathechilla.1383]

it would have been hilarious if he had put a mining camp on your main gold to the left of your base 11 either way it's supper frustrating to die to a strat like this.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

😄

[@thebomber11]

Here's how I never died to a tower rush - When I see them tower rush, get 2 barracks all in producing MaA (stop making vils if you have to, market abuse, just make a bunch of MaA), don't attack until you have at least 10-15. Your eco will suck, but theirs will be worse and the towers will be gone.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Not sure if that would work, but then again.. Never seen anyone do it 11

[@santiagobs6]

I thought the same. Maybe better all in scouts with all upgrades and you can defend and raid their poor eco. For sure I would not do archers, if you are getting tower rushed you need a unit that can defend and attack quick and good.

[@lmazl7826]

Yeah this is busted, I could barely beat hard AI yesterday because of its macro economy and mass units. Just beat both harder and extreme AI with little difficulty. Time to test in multiplayer now. My fastest feudal is 8 minutes but I reckon I can push that even lower.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Awesome 11

[@ja_pocitacove_hry_nehraji69]

🐢

[@dazeen9591]

i thought this was like some APM limit challenge but no. disappointed.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

It is in a way. I keep the eAPM under 20.

[@ninjaxd9050]

Welp this is a good strat is your bellow 1700

[@Regunes]

Protoss moment right there.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

🤔

[@Danielscottrhoades]

bro you can't be slower than me it's impossibro

[@MrPlannerAoE]

🐢

[@Danielscottrhoades]

@@MrPlannerAoE 🦥

[@BrentTJo]

what is your eAPM?

[@MrPlannerAoE]

18 eAPM this game if I'm not mistaken. I keep it under 20.

[@alexanderhawk2659]

Pyc_Hawk: bruh...

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Had to do a little research to find out what you meant. Might need to try it with Teutons myself.

[@miso689]

Were you not like 2k1 at some point?

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@miso689 not on MrSlow. On my main account, yes.

[@kriminal6034]

Dont think i have ever seen trees like that, is that a mod?

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Yes. "Anne_hk small pine trees" I believe.

[@Dawoud_Shirin]

You did some outposts or you made some outposts?😉

[@MrPlannerAoE]

🤦

[@mikeofbosnia]

Why do I feel you are somewhere from eastern Europe 😆

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Did my accent give it away? :O

[@mikeofbosnia]

@@MrPlannerAoE not so much. Just my DayZ sensors light up when I feel it might be

[@jackjman5577]

How do you get to 1700 elo with this. At 550 elo people have 0 problem defending against this....

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I guess I'm just lucky 😜

[@jackjman5577]

@MrPlannerAoE I didn't realize this video was pre tower nerf lol

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@jackjman5577 Towers got nerfed?

[@yusufsaid]

I tried, it doesn't work. I am 1200 ELO and I get defeated to other 1200 ELOs every time. It may work if you are a pro and playing against 500 ELO lower players, and yes it doesn't require micro much. But similar skill players can counter tower rush every time. They just to a few defensive towers, a few archers, and go up to castle age earlier than me.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I think u might be doing some mistakes then. I played "normal" strategies, and I was losing half the games against 1600+ players. I haven't lost once doing tower rush.

[@yusufsaid]

@@MrPlannerAoE I am doing a lot of mistakes lol. Did I tell you I am 1200 ELO? :) I am very slow too, so I thought this strat might work for me. I can get the towers up early, but opponent counters it with textbook trush counter. They make one or two towers, 4 archers, and go up to castle age earlier. They have a mangonel out and my dreams of dropping forward castle is in the trash bin. I go back make defensive castle, then it is a standard castle age game where I have a massive eco disadvantage. My problem is that once I start making towers, I cannot check my base as often as my opponent does. So I keep forgetting making vils, making farms, etc. Cannot do any damage as well, so I lose. In your case it works since you are playing against a lot lower ELO players. You make less APM but still better at implementing the strat, checking back your eco, splitting your vils to sneakily tower opponent eco everywhere. That is just a lot for me to do.

[@yusufsaid]

​ @MrPlannerAoE BTW I do a lot better at all in attack startegies. Normal strats, I am 1000-1100 ELO at best. All in Cuman archer-ram rush, or all in Hoang type siege-knight push I can go up to 1300 ELO. Because once I start attacking I don't have to check my eco as often, which I can't do anyway.

[@fcbole6983]

I don't get it, why slowest player alive?

[@MrPlannerAoE]

It's just a joke. It's a second account I have where I intentionally play slow (called MrSlow) to show that strategy is also an important factor of the game and that you don't need high eAPM to be a good player. On my account im 2100, on MrSlow im now 1700+.

[@gelstube4614]

That's a rhino not a boar😂

[@MrPlannerAoE]

I'm so used to only seeing boars from the old days, I call elephants/rhinos boars as well. 😅

[@gelstube4614]

Yeah I thought maybe that was why u were calling it a boar😁 btw great play boss👍

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@gelstube4614 Thanks!

[@DosChirolas]

Why do you say you're slow? You don't seem slow

[@MrPlannerAoE]

It's a second account that I have, where I intetionally play slower (under 20 eAPM). It's explained in this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZvKgZSIlplnd80

[@moorsyclimbing]

I'd quit rather than play someone who tower rushes like this, so you'd take my elo

[@shaswataman]

Exactly bruh. Everytime someone tries to persian tc drop me, I just say good luck, have fun.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@shaswataman I wouldn't equal persian douche with this rush, but I understand.

[@Klajusa]

Why exactly are you called mister slow? You play like anyone else

[@MrPlannerAoE]

MrSlow is the name of my 2nd account, where I intentionally play slow to focus more on the strategy part of the game and to show people, that slow players can get pretty good at the game as well.

[@Klajusa]

Ok

[@Wolf_Entity]

Its ugly yes... But its a strategy unfortunately

[@MrPlannerAoE]

But it's beautiful on the inside!

[@66aleb]

Your current gameplay strategy is a poor one, designed merely to inflate your ego and create a false sense of dominance. In truth, you lack a solid strategy, micro, or macro game. Your gameplay consists solely of building a disgusting ring of towers around the weakest part of the map. It's truly repulsive.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

Wow, thats harsh. 11

[@Rare.99]

that's why this game is irritating. I want to like it but online play just encourages rage tactics. I feel like if it was designed better, fights would play out like actual medieval battles, rather than weird alternate realities

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@Rare.99 I like the fact that all these strategies are possible. But I understand you... I think if u want to avoid that, you need to play specific maps/settings.

[@flexdubel5870]

What a shit show😂

[@David-tr6xe]

Shit like this is why i quitt aoe. I know some people think it’s “cool and fun” to have alternative strategies. Imho it’s just super selfish to play like this because ypu wrap the game entirely around yourself and foce the other person to adjust to something that abuses not a lack of skill but rather a lack of understanding of the strategy. No love sorry

[@MrPlannerAoE]

But this is a strategy game... And tower rush is just part of it. I don't know how one can be selfish in a 1v1. Ofc you want to beat your opponent.

[@David-tr6xe]

@@MrPlannerAoE it’s not about wanting to beat your opponent. Sure winning is part of it but for 99% of people this game is also meant to be fun. This “strategy” only works because people lack experience against it. At higher levels it’s considered a meme. And the average player dosen’t have the time to learn how to deal with nonsense like this. Learning the ins and abouts of how to play meta is more than enough to learn. And It’s simply frustrating for most people to be dragged into your arena. I ve never felt any good about playing against it. Even when i manage to beat it.

[@MrPlannerAoE]

@@David-tr6xeI guess I can understand that. But then some ppl like me wouldnt have as much fun playing "meta" all the time. I love facing guys like Hoang, JonSlow, etc. that spice up the game.

[@David-tr6xe]

@@MrPlannerAoE well maybe the perspective changes when you play more. I ve only played like 150 ranked game and hit 1500s. Felt so frustrating every time i faced those weird strategies cuz i didn’t know what exactly was the right counter play and didn’t feel like i was loosing to a better player just to a lack of understanding

[@whyarewestillhere7073]

me when someone uses strategy in my micro management game😡 the only real issue I see is smurfing