Sly Cooper - How & Why Did Sly End Up In Ancient Egypt?

How and why did Sly Cooper find himself stranded in Ancient Egypt? According to Sanzaru's Mat Kraemer, Ancient Egypt was originally supposed to be the 1st episode of Sly Cooper: Thieves In Time based around Slytunkhamen. Later on, the episode was planned for DLC but unfortunately got cut for unknown reasons.
Was Le Paradox planning to also travel to Ancient Egypt? This was never made clear so let's discuss this topic!
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[@IllusionMaster17]

So far you're the only one still making Sly Cooper videos and I love it. And yes this is really a curious and intrigant topic in the franchise. Considering that the Egypt level was considered as the first main level and even a DLC chapter, but both were just scrapped, shows they wanted to add that part of the story in any way to fit the game. Still wondering if there is ever gonna be an explanation or sequel to this. Great video! I loved your theorical explanation, blowing.

[@ciligonzalez2897]

Look for bmask

[@VtnVivi]

Aww thank you!

[@skurvay3429]

You're forgetting one very important thing here, CLOCKWERK! Here's lived since the time of Slytunkhamen, and held a grudge against the Cooper Family so strong that he made himself a Robot in order to end them once & for all, so I think that Sly ended up in a time when Clockwerk was still organic, and it may have been up to Sly to teach his ancestor how to be a great & noble thief, and the boss of the Egypt level would have been Organic Clockwerk, and once he is defeated, Clockwerk swears he will end the Cooper Family no matter how long it may take, which would mean that Sly started Clockwerk's grudge against the Cooper Family, and he convinces Slytunkhamen to create a vault for the Cooper Family Fortune, and write a Book to contain all of the Cooper Family's greatest secrets & techniques, but then Sly writes a letter to Bentley in the future, and hides it within the cover of the book, Bentley then notices the letter in the present, and realizes that Sly is in Ancient Egypt, then uses the Time Machine to retrieve Sly from the past, and the the 5th Sly Game can pick up not too long after That.

[@VtnVivi]

If Sly faced Clockwerk in the past, Clockwerk would've remembered Sly....unless pretending he didn't know him was part of his plan if let's say Clockwerk returns? The Thievius Raccoonus must've started as Papyrus scrolls. With time, these scrolls and writings got re written in a book hence the same writing for each page. I always believed Sly accidentally caused Clockwerk to go mad yeah.

[@legendgamer676]

@@VtnVivi Very late to this but maybe Clockwerk couldn’t remember Sly after all that time? His hatred of the Cooper Clan by the time of the first game is so strong and he is so far from a natural being at that point that all the Coopers probably look the same to him. After all those modifications and millennia of hatred I would not be surprised at all if he couldn’t remember Sly from Ancient Egypt. Personally I do really like the theory that Sly IS Slytunkhamen and it’s all a massive bootstrap paradox and Sly is the first and last cooper

[@MonstrMash123458943]

i love this theory

[@buddy3119]

@@VtnVivi sly could disguise himself or something or a stupid idea sly is slytunkhamen and it's some weird paradox

[@Bordpie]

@@VtnVivi The OP just summarised my exact idea for how the story could continue, except instead of a note in the book (which may have been rewritten like you said) he leaves some clue in ancient Egypt that leads present day Bentley to realise Sly is there. Maybe he becomes Slytunkhamen and builds one of the pyramids with a secret message or something that will last to the present for Bentley to discover. The question would be how Bentley stumbles across it or how they didn't notice it before.

[@noTired1]

Maaaan, I miss sly cooper...

[@VtnVivi]

We all do AHHHHHHHHHH

[@Kaltsit-]

VTNVIVI speaks for all of us. It's how we all feel inside. *AHHHHHHH*

[@woo1475]

Me too..

[@bradlovelace1458]

Me to man he was one of my favourite game that i always think that sly was like a big bother for me

[@slycooper4506]

@@bradlovelace1458 well I'm glad I was important to you and thank you for being there for me.

[@Coopergal33]

The idea of him in present day Egypt is a little comforting. Still, some continuity would be appreciated. We got other ancestors to meet.

[@VtnVivi]

Yeah!

[@zackarymario1335]

i miss sly so much i hope someone pick up the series

[@Kaltsit-]

Hehe. Me trying to do that without copyright.

[@VtnVivi]

Tell me about it.

[@Kaltsit-]

@@VtnVivi I would but I think you are going through the same thing. Ugh. Copyright is one of those things that has upsides to it but then there are also downsides

[@swamlush6706]

If you have a PS4 you can subscribe to ps now subscription. There is sly trilogy and thieves in time

[@knightslayer6161]

After Ghost of Tsushima I keep forgetting that sucker punch created Sly, it’s hard to imagine even.

[@BrennySpain]

TheBestFighter me too! I really think that thx to the success and reviews of ghost, that people can start taking SP more seriously as a developer and return to do a sly cooper reboot. I honestly don’t care if we never get a proper sly 5. I just want something new already!!

[@Kaltsit-]

@@BrennySpain I'm working on it.

[@BrennySpain]

W.T. Kemp you? How?

[@Kaltsit-]

@@BrennySpain I'm going to write a "Fan Fic" of Sly getting out of Egypt. If no one gets it before me. Playstation has teased us which could mean something. Only one problem I have is that I want to get Sly and everything perfect. I don't want to disappoint.

[@BrennySpain]

W.T. Kemp yeah good luck with that man!

[@benneh1822]

I am in desperate NEED for a new sly entry on ps5. Doesn’t matter if it is a remake or a sequel😭

[@VtnVivi]

:/

[@amulyasharma8739]

The graphics if it came on the ps5 bro

[@1nsta528]

On ps4 I played sly2 one too many times like my favorite part of sly 2 was ep 1 to 5

[@Evandamaster]

I want a sequel and a trilogy so bad! And I think that both of them will happen because the devs have said that they would like to you know continue the series! So have hope and maybe in 2021 it may happen 😀😀😀

[@mihairadita9313]

I love your theory regarding how Sly could contact Bentley in present by writing a message in the Thievius Raccoonus. This could be the best option for Murray and Bentley to find out where's Sly

[@VtnVivi]

Yeah it's a pretty common theory nowadays :D

[@amuzer]

I would want the story to continue in the 5th game. I like to think of the plot being about Sly navigating in ancient Egypt, where he meets his ancestor, Slytunkhamen. With some helpful meddling, Sly becomes responsible in creating his clan and the Thievious Raccoonus (which he uses to inform Bentley about his whereabouts). But his actions also led to the creation of his bloodline's immortal nemesis, which is Clockwerk. Clockwerk, in theory, may be the result of a former high-ranked official/noble who used the wreckage of Le Paradox's time blimp to become the mechanical being he was in the future. And his hatred on the Cooper clan was derived from Sly and Slytunkhamen meddling in his affairs that led to his ruination

[@VtnVivi]

How would Sly feel O_O

[@raisadams9920]

Love that new intro

[@VtnVivi]

Thank you, fits the month of October I find :D

[@jackbartholomaus6510]

@@VtnVivi Is it because it looks like something from a Horror movie?

[@VtnVivi]

@@jackbartholomaus6510 Maybe.

[@secretchiley]

Ok, this is crazy theory: In the playstation UI reveal, they showed Sly Cooper as avatar. Like if i was making that i think it would have been better to use it to advertise their upcoming games like spiderman. Maybe, we'll get a remake of previous Sly games or a new one? Or why not both? Maybe remake with Sly 4 DLC that was planned?

[@VtnVivi]

For now, I think it's just a coincidence.

[@Tzahx_]

I really rate how your the only channel to still upload sly videos till this day

[@curtisregal4993]

Thinks for the sly cooper update vtnvivi 😄👍

[@VtnVivi]

Not really an update but hey :P I'm glad you enjoy the content!

[@sonpo6177]

I would like to have the next Sly game (if it is coming) to rotate between Sly in "ancient" egypt and the others in modern France(?) with both sides trying to help Sly (himself) get back to the right time periode. The whole game is just Sly getting home, I wouldn't mind. Unless we ignored the secret ending in egypt like it never happen and Sly is hiding somewhere and we'll call it " Where on Earth is Sly Cooper?". ;)

[@VtnVivi]

That's how I imagine Sly 5 with Carmelita playing an even bigger role.

[@Kaltsit-]

That's exactly what I'm going to do. Though not call it "Where in the World is Sly Cooper" (yes I know exactly what you were going for. Carmen Sandiego is another person I know).

[@Kaltsit-]

She will have a big role. Though she will have to accept it.

[@lexusdriver1963]

If Sly Cooper 5 was made here is what I would see how the beginning goes. Bentley is at the river where the site of the incident happened and he finds the black boxes of Le Paradox’s Time Machine much to his hope. He takes them and goes back to his lab to analyze the data where he can find the last known input of the Time Machine. Once he found the last known input he goes back to Murray and Carmelita and tells them “I know where Sky’s gone to when the blimp disappeared” and then Murray and Carmelita are so relieved to hear what Bentley said. Murray will be like “How” and Bentley will be like “Thanks to my amazing foresight Le Paradox’s Time Machine was fitted with Black Boxes”. After that Bentley, Murray and Carmelita can use Bentley’s Time Machine fitted in Murray’s van after finding the Ancient Egyptian item to go back in time to Ancient Egypt and find Sly Cooper and I can imagine that upon arrival when Bentley, Murray and Carmelita finally found Sly Carmelita would run to him and kiss him and hug him. Finally after a reunion they would go back to the van but just as they were about to go home they hear a scream in which they follow the screaming to find that Sly Cooper’s Ancient Egyptian ancestors is being held against his will by Bentley’s ex-girlfriend Penelope. I’d imagine Sly Cooper saying “Let him go” and Carmelita saying “Penelope, you are going to be on Death Row for escaping Europe’s highest security prison”. Thus the player must rescue Sly’s ancestor, defeat Penelope and then Sly, Carmelita, Bentley and Murray can all go home with Penelope now handed over back to the authorities. For Carmelita to make up for Sly for not giving him the chance to explain himself the two would stay in Carmelita’s place. Sly and Carmelita would get drunk with champagne, hug and kiss each other hardcore and sleep for the night. The next day Sly would go back to meeting Bentley and Murray, for Carmelita she’s find Sly’s calling card saying “Thanks for the night” and thus a new story of Sly Cooper 5 begins.

[@DougsGamingChannel]

I love this idea. i've been streaming Thieves in Time and i know this game gets hate but i love it so far. there are some things that are alright but I'm fine with the writing and how it goes.

[@VtnVivi]

I love Sly 4, yes it does have issues but I too don't hate it.

[@chrisblum2844]

Ya know just thinking that right now is the perfect time for Sly to come back. There may never be another opportunity like this ever again. All the old PS games are making comebacks and here we are still waiting for sly. There is so much that can be done with this series. These theories are so good too. I really hope he makes a comeback on PS5

[@VtnVivi]

I agree!

[@user-ur4id2ri8i]

@@VtnVivi me to!

[@ryanmangion1551]

an easier explanation for the Vault Key could be that the lock is changed each time there's a new inheritance. the last one was Sly's Father and Sly is using his dad's cane.

[@VtnVivi]

Very possible!

[@ishpaltheretrogamer8714]

Dang it. I’m sad cause Sly Cooper is lost in Egypt. I miss that raccoon thief hero, so much. I’m a huge fan of Sly Cooper video games.

[@VtnVivi]

I feel ya!

[@ishpaltheretrogamer8714]

@@VtnVivi Yes. The secret ending is too challenging for me, to earn trophies. I’m a bit confused cause Sly is trapped in Egypt.

[@rillaroo604]

2021 is the 20 anniversary for jak 2022 = = = for sly

[@jackbartholomaus6510]

Let's hope Sly 5 will release somewhere around that time.

[@VongolaXZax]

It has happened

[@ityourboix]

Thank you for explaining this nice video

[@VtnVivi]

My pleasure

[@outlawed8611]

Uh- when he said something about Sly being his own ancestor, that really startled me. He took the thoughts right out of my brain.

[@S.O.A_Zero]

Clockwerk's Brain was in Le Paradox's time machine at the end of Sly 4, in the prologue, when we use Bentley for the 1st time in Sly 4, when Bentley "kills" the rats, if you wait to hack the computer and you look around you will see that.

[@slycooper4506]

And you're right VV I don't have that communicator that allowed me to contact the present Bentley had it.

[@VtnVivi]

Oh no!

[@slycooper4506]

@@VtnVivi I promise I am coming home... somehow.

[@Dusk347]

I like to believe that the main villain would have been Clockwerk. Maybe it's where Slytunkhamen and Clockwerk were somewhat at odds, but due to Sly's involvement, what if that cemented Clockwerk's hatred for the cooper lineage, thus leading him to be enveloped in his hated?

[@moafalkman4129]

Great video as always!

[@VtnVivi]

Thanks again!

[@Chulip.]

What do u want to happen to the sly series sly movie, sly tv show, sly 5, or sly remake?? I want sly 5

[@VtnVivi]

Sly 5

[@Chulip.]

VTNVIVI same I’m really hoping for a sly 5

[@VongolaXZax]

I want the whole deal, minus the remake.

[@italianissimobaldi5720]

I think a reboot is the best for the series now

[@Spyro757]

@@italianissimobaldi5720 but they do need to finish the story

[@tresheppard8942]

Slytunkhamen Cooper II will be a boss character? I don't think that's gonna happen. Because Slytunkhamen is one of Sly's ancestors. And Sly would never attack or hurt to his own ancestors: his own family. Never, because that's impossible. Sly should tell Slytunkhamen that he's one of his relatives from the future, and he needs his help to figure it out how can he go back to the present so he could reunite with his two best friends: Bentley and Murray, and his girlfriend: Carmelita. And speaking of that I just mentioned that Sly needs to go back to the present, I am still waiting for Sony Interactive Entertainment company brings the announcement reveal of a brand new Sly Cooper game: a sequel to Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time: "Sly Cooper 5" on PS5. Not a DLC for Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time. Just a brand new Sly game: "Sly Cooper 5" on PS5 because the Sony Interactive Entertainment company are taking WAY too long for like 7 years. So please Sony company, make it happen! I'm still waiting! I can't wait anymore! Please, Sony! Make the announcement reveal of Sly Cooper 5 as a brand new game on PS5 already! Please!!!

[@olenlopettnut6314]

No the series is dead i know it

[@tresheppard8942]

@@olenlopettnut6314 But there is still hope. Do you have any idea how long I've been waiting for Sly Cooper 5 into the future? I don't think Sly Cooper series is dead yet. I was really desperate about this. I just wanted Sly to be free from ancient Egypt so he could reunite with his two best friends: Bentley and Murray, and his girlfriend: Carmelita. And besides, all of the Sly Cooper fans are still waiting and desperate for a sequel to Thieves in Time.

[@timsheppard6204]

Has no new game scrapped movie hidden TV show news. It's not a dead series but it's heading that way only having small references like Ghosts of Tsushima and Astro bot

[@VtnVivi]

You have a point, Sly would never hurt his ancestor. If anything, like I stated, he'd quell his anger.

[@Kaltsit-]

Ahem Tre'Sheppard. Have you had any theories to who Clockwerk could be? Clockwerk could have been Sltunkhamen's friend. Then Sly messed it up.

[@AC34D]

Even then, that theory would have to relate back to Sly 2’s intro somehow given IT WAS IN CAIRO!😂😂😂.....2004 calling it now ‼️‼️

[@brandonlink7471]

Ah yes! A little over 5 years ago I discovered this! I remember the date I did! 12/23/2015, this cliffhanger ending changed my life forever. The depression I suffered for the next couple weeks after this. Hell it even took me a couple months to get 99% over this. Yeah, still at least a little salty over this. Wow! Can’t believe I’m looking back at this. I doubt there’s going to be a sequel of any kind.

[@danieldinisfernandes8614]

Great video

[@VtnVivi]

Thanks!

[@samiam9965]

Hi VTNVIVI and awesome video 👍

[@VtnVivi]

Hey, thanks!

[@samiam9965]

@@VtnVivi :)👍

[@CommentingCommenter]

I can picture Sly going back to ancient Egypt where he meets Slytunkhamen BEFORE he became a master thief, so Sly has to teach him some of the basics of being a thief, like getting intel and such in order to get him started, thus starting his family legacy.

[@VtnVivi]

Yeah I always imagined something like that!

[@viiikalendasjulii4649]

He was browsing discord when someone sent him a meme saying "Screw Brazil, you're going to Egypt." Also, I think a new Sly Cooper game shouldn't have fancy graphics, The Cartoon-ish style is what makes these games uniqe.

[@cedricmartin8797]

Good to see you back on our favorite thief raccoon.

[@VongolaXZax]

Hey I'm back! I just thought how this would make the most sense, it would be better in the story of Sly 5 that Sly uses pieces of La Paradox's time machine to travel forward back into the present, while also meeting his other ancestors along the way, them helping him. =) That way we can see more of Sly's family, and continue on the series. It would make the most sense to put Clockwork back into the picture, in order to show what cause his hatred for the Cooper Clan. I say it was an "accident" on Slytunkhamen's part, that cause the animosity.

[@Kaltsit-]

Well hey I’m working on it. Also Sly’s in Egypt. You don’t think that Sly could’ve messed it up? Slytunkhamen might be friends with Clockwerk. Sly might just have an “accident” and mess it all up.

[@VtnVivi]

How would the parts guarantee a trip to those time periods? The pieces would be too modern.

[@VongolaXZax]

@@VtnViviThere doesn't have to be a guarantee Vi, it could make Sly time travel at random during certain parts of the game, and also into the next episode. Like for an example, say Sly has the main part of La Paradox's time machine, and he tries to fiddle with it, sees if it still works. But then the time stream starts to surround him, taking him through time, but going forward in time. It can work with the story, like let's imagine the main part to the time machine( La Paradox's) got damage so bad,(let's call it the "heart") it permanently got set to somehow go forward instead backwards, like in Sly 4, but, by it being damage so bad, it can only start sending him forward, but at a slow pace, that is, in between time periods, but it starts to send him forward faster as the game progresses. depending on the writer this could lead to Karin Coopergiwa, since she's the only genius we know in the Cooper Clan that can help Sly. Plus, Sly wouldn't need old pieces from Egypt to piece it on the modern technology, of the time machine, if it can be helped. But then again, in most things I've watched on time travel, combining pieces from the past, that can be perfectly matched, with technology of the present/future can work given the situation.

[@BrennySpain]

sir galleth Cooper is definitely my favourite of the ancestors in sly 4. he's voiced by Yuri Lowenthal who's one of my favourite voice actors ever! he will always be the prince of Persia to me!

[@VtnVivi]

:D

[@BrennySpain]

VTNVIVI Vivi, when are you gonna get to my launch list of questions already? Especially in regards to crash 4?! Lol

[@Kaltsit-]

My favorite character total is Carmelita. Especially the 4th version because she is voiced by Grey Gryphon. Who voiced Azula from my most favorite show ever. ATLA (man. now that it's on NETFLIX I am very happy to see it be as popular as it should be)

[@BrennySpain]

W.T. Kemp yeah I have to agree Carmelita is just awesome! I just wish she didn’t have to get a new voice actor in every new game that came out. But her character really grew as the series went on. In the first game she was just a cop trying to arrest sly but in 2 onwards she really grew to like him. It was so amazing that we finally got to play as her in 3 as well. Do you agree too?

[@Kaltsit-]

@@BrennySpain Also Carmelita better stay with Grey Gryphon tho. SHe the best one. Ugh my typing. Guys don't type stories unless you don't want to be able to type anything else.

[@katrinastar652]

havent heard from you in a while! Love your videos as always!!

[@VtnVivi]

Thank you :D

[@BrennySpain]

Oh but also you know what I really love about crash 4 it’s about time? The world map layout because it’s so similar to crash 1 and doesn’t copy the warp room style of cortex strikes back and warped. Toys for bob really knew what they were doing right? I’m glad they didn’t do a wrath of cortex because the less said about what TT tried to do the better. I mean I still liked their ways room design but the layout in its about time is just so much better. What do you think overall?

[@VtnVivi]

I love the layout too!

[@dark_stream8631]

don't know if someone mention this, but isn't the cooper vault holding the canes of the ancestors, one of them belonging to the one one who wrote the thievius raccoonus? shouldn't they be able to use it to find sly, once they know he is in ancient egipt.

[@ShadowDeathBlade93]

Those are good theories Vivi, but also Clockwork has been watching the Cooper Clan since Slytunkhamen's time cause of the photos from the first game after beating Mz. Ruby of getting Slytunkhamen's page then defeating Panda King to go to Russia to face him.

[@VtnVivi]

Thanks! My question is, WHO took those pictures of Slytunkhamen?

[@ShadowDeathBlade93]

@@VtnVivi i wonder that myself

[@smexyrexy1509]

What are your thoughts on Deceit of Thieves? I personally think it's great that someone is making a sly game

[@gkone6722]

I find these types of videos insanely interesting

[@VtnVivi]

Thank you!

[@tristanknight9390]

@@VtnVivi hi I just wanted sly cooper 5 master of thieves and it's not over it's frickin over it's still more

[@tristanknight9390]

Go my channel and watch sly cooper 5 coming out

[@ganumon1984]

Man you know, if we could've have that cliffhanger, none of this would've happen. I really wish Sanzaru had more time to develop Sly 4 and then release it on the PS3 and PS4 in late 2013 during the PS4 debut and also, Sanzaru will add some DLC content in Sly 4! I really miss Sly Cooper and I wish Sony would've acquired Sanzaru already so they would have Sly return on the PS5 before Oculus does and then everything would be ok, right? During the 2020's, 2022 is going to be the 20th Anniversary of Sly Cooper and 2023 is going to be the 10th Anniversary of Sly Cooper Thieves in Time! You know, I would have the Sly Cooper PS5 Remaster/Remake Collection with Sly 4 in 2022 and Sly Cooper 5 in 2023 and you know what I'm thinking? We should have Sucker Punch or BluePoint Studios owning Sly Cooper and Sly will be home and plus, they will get started in making Sly 5 and other future Sly projects!

[@VtnVivi]

I'd love an HD collection with fixed load times :D

[@blankblankness2971]

Fun fact: 2013 (the year when Sly 4 was released) has the exact same calendar as 2002 (the year when Sly 1 was released).

[@TrippieVixen]

I miss Sly so much! Come on we got Crash and Spyro to come back now give us Sly!!! 🥺💙

[@VtnVivi]

I know :(

[@S0oo]

I kinda like the "own ancestor" theory but as red herring. Like start the first part with Sly creating a footprint and then plot twist with the real one.

[@nicolasfernandolopesmachad3036]

Wow! Nice theories!

[@VtnVivi]

Thanks!

[@aisadal2521]

I thought it was because the time traveling machine malfunctioned?

[@VtnVivi]

Malfunctioned yes, by how exactly did he end up there? Coincidence?

[@Kaltsit-]

VTNVIVI I have a question. Who would you want Sly's daughter to be? I'm asking this for an idea as to who she will be. I've technically already created her character. But this book is for the fans of Sly Cooper. For the people who know him best. I really don't think I'll hit that spot just right. I guess once I'm finished writing The Ship of Colours then I can put the URL in the comments and let people give feedback to it. It will show what I'm good at writing and where I'm not good. I just need to know.

[@Kaltsit-]

BTW her name is...... well uhm. Should I say it? Ah whatever Carla Cooper

[@VtnVivi]

I'd imagine one of his kids, YES one of his kids to not pursue Sly's legacy. That would create a nice interesting twist.

[@Kaltsit-]

@@VtnVivi Let’s just say she has a brother. He’s a pretty good anti-terrorist operator.

[@ghouldash9761]

Ugh, I really hope Sly Cooper comes back on the PS5.

[@VtnVivi]

I know :/

[@abztheaussiechic3960]

How can we as fans get more hype so the next instalment or dlc can be made? Because as a major fan of this series its been far too long of a wait and I would love to see the series flourish more so. There is still an active fanbase behind it I noticed and people still post to hashtages on all social media to this day. The ending must be resolved at least. Do you know what to do? (I went on a rant there haha sorry I just really adore the series and see so much potential) 💙

[@user-ur4id2ri8i]

I been playing sky cooper for years, I have completed the game many times! I'm on tooth picks part right now, I hope they makr a 5th game SOON

[@Wolfrunestrider]

Wait I remember there was an ancient Egyptian ancestor of sly ( I know your talking about it) what would if the dlc was like something like sonic generations not restoring time but being with a different time self / ancestor that sly would have to team up with his ancestor from there ? Idk its jsut a guess

[@ramsesgonzalez8618]

You mean like we thought classic was the past version of modern until the events of sonic mania and sonic forces?

[@dxcsmash]

I was guessing that maybe when the the paradox's blimp malfunction just send him conveniently to ancient Egypt. But you might have a point that, the possible reason of him ending up in ancient Egypt was through his cane. And the possible chance that's Sly did help created his family legacy, in Egypt.

[@VtnVivi]

Yeah :D

[@moneylover318]

I always thought it was because that was le paradoxes next destination

[@VtnVivi]

Possible!

[@Skip2105]

I always theorized that Penelope left the gang (Bentley) with the catch of needing an object on purpose. She clearly knew how to figure out just typing it in

[@atlAs-i9z]

What if sly were to become sly tankhanmen(don't know the spelling) and write the thievius racoons maybe coz that's where time says he belongs to

[@VtnVivi]

A Bootstrap paradox :)

[@Kaltsit-]

VTNVIVI has put this theory in another video. He said that personally he wouldn't like it. Also why stay away from Carmelita? And Bentley? And Murray?

[@CoreyMillionaire2029]

@@Kaltsit- And Dimitri?

[@Kaltsit-]

Well, he’d probably not like Dmitri that much. I mean he’s still a big help.

[@g-money9009]

I wish a new company would take the torch and try to make Sly Cooper 5

[@blankblankness2971]

What I think happened is that Le Paradox set Ancient Egypt as the first time and location for the voyage he planned for Sly and Carmelita. Of course, due to the blimp’s destruction, the program was completely cut off and not continued. I do believe that Le Paradox’s time machine is based on Bentley’s blueprints, seeing as how Penelope made both of the time machines. Sly’s cane can’t even be close to the object needed to travel there; as noted in Sly 3, the Egyptian khopesh canes that Slytunkhamen II used (which were also his father’s canes) are different from Sly’s cane. It also confuses me as to how some of the canes (like Slaigh MacCooper’s caber cane with a stone crook or Thaddeus Winslow Cooper III’s cane with a ruby embedded into the crook) could open the vault door. There are quite a few reasons why Sly Cooper is not Slytunkhamen Cooper. Sly reassembled the Thievius Raccoonus, which isn’t the same as creating it. I also might add that Sly had to read Slytunkhamen’s notes in order to learn how to turn invisible.

[@VtnVivi]

Wouldn't Le Paradox have gone to Egypt knowing there was another cane there?

[@blankblankness2971]

@@VtnVivi ​Yes, he would... but I feel like his plan was to send that scrapped villain (namely the lizard) to Egypt to retrieve Slytunkhamen's cane. This must have been altered because of the developers' goals. They wanted the game to fit on the PS Vita, and the Egypt episode would have made the game too big for that console. As for Le Paradox and Egypt? Well, this may have been changed from Le Paradox sending someone into the past to retrieve Slytunkhamen's cane to him setting it as a place and time for the voyage. I bet he picked lots of places, regardless of whether or not there were Cooper canes.

[@MusicGirl881]

I hope one day they will actually bring back Sly Cooper and finish off the story

[@VtnVivi]

I know :(

[@sxscookiex]

i platinumed the whole sly series like 2 weeks ago. sly 4 was a pain

[@VtnVivi]

Oh yeah the map trophy....

[@Fenasi-Kerim1981]

Having nostalgia Ahh. My childhood...

[@rudyyhh]

So I have a theory what if a future version of le paradox idk how spell but What if a future version of him helps his past self escape prison and they find were sly is and he prob will be with the other ancestors we didn't see but all of them in Egypt and the they have this big boss fight and future le paradox has alot of new gadgets that make it harder would be cool to see that on the ps5 Love the sly videos

[@renamon5658]

La paradox might sent clockwerk to stop the thievious racoonus from being made

[@VongolaXZax]

I think La Paradox needs to stay out of the light for now.

[@VtnVivi]

Hmm... I think Le Paradox would stay behind bars.....I mean who would break him out? Certainly not Penelope.

[@renamon5658]

@@VtnVivi she might, she broke out of jail herself some how.. She could of been the boss in ancient Egypt... Or maybe play a big role in sly 5

[@Kaltsit-]

@@renamon5658 ​ @VTNVIVI Let's just say that's another thing I should add in the book. Do we all agree?

[@renamon5658]

@@Kaltsit- yep

[@user-hz3pr2bj5o]

La paridox was an art collector so he already had all the items he needed to go to those time periods and since Bentley and penelope worked together to make the time machine and la paridox being a little inpatient Penelope didn't have time or help to figure out how to improve the design so you wouldn't need an iteam from each time period

[@Minato_Arisato_5]

I feel like one major issue is that if Sly met his ancestor, (sorry. Not even going to attempt spelling Slytun- yeah, not trying), he would have left a note in the Thievious Raccoonus. But that would be instantly noticable in the present, so if there was no message, Sly never had access to the book. If we go off of your theory that he fights with his ancestor, what if the ancestor won? Maybe Bentley and Murray could get the itch to steal again, and rob a museum, where they find Sly's cane and a mummy possibly? From there they would have the knowledge of Sly's location, and be able to go search for him. And fix everything. In all honesty though, I want Clockwerk to have some relevance. He's the best villain, and I'd like some historical context to his backstory.

[@VtnVivi]

Wait.... Are you saying Sly dies? If he does, that will affect Bentley and Murray's story as well.

[@Minato_Arisato_5]

@@VtnVivi Not permanently. More like, in a historical context he does, so Bentley and Murray go back to save him. Think of it kind of like how in Back to the Future 3, they found Doc's gave from the 1800's, and went back to stop him from dying.

[@VongolaXZax]

Well to me, it only makes sense. Because that's really were the Cooper Clan Started, aside from Bob just being a link to their existence. And great Sly vid as always Vi! 😎

[@VtnVivi]

Thanks Zax!

[@renamon5658]

I wonder why sly never fought jack the ripper

[@ethanhill1712]

Three things doctor who the eighth doctor says that time is a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimy that has time fixing it self. The second thing is what if sly gives his ancestor the idea of writing the raccoonus but they disagree and fight. The last thing is when you said that Bentley's DNA was a time machine thing that it sent him back to Bentley's ancestor time

[@VtnVivi]

Sly being the one indirectly creating the book is something I always imagined :)

[@agentedeluniverso2891]

theres a doctor nefarious in ratchet and theres a a doctor nefarious in crash

[@olenlopettnut6314]

What you want say ?

[@agentedeluniverso2891]

@@olenlopettnut6314 they are both dr nefarious

[@Davidpoland2005]

@@olenlopettnut6314 he means that the name of Ntropy is Dr. Nefarious tropy But it could be entropy or antropy, i need to research that

[@blankblankness2971]

Dr. Nefarious (R&C) was, in fact, inspired by Dr. Nefarious Tropy (CB). Insomniac Games used to be in the same building as Naughty Dog.

[@agentedeluniverso2891]

@@blankblankness2971thanks for the fun fact

[@ariswilliams8103]

This is just me thinking, but maybe something from Egypt must of went into the time machine before it exploded?

[@VtnVivi]

Perhaps! But what would it be? Why have such ancient artifacts onboard the blimp apart from the canes? Well, Paradox did own a museum....

[@ariswilliams8103]

Fare point

[@armedwithwings3953]

Dang it make another game already it’s been 6 yrs

[@shipmastershadowofintent5249]

I love the video but do u think he will be stuck in ancient Egypt or do u think he will rebuild the machine and go back and if he does need something knowing game developers and the plot he would probly pull out something carmelita gave him to throw it in the machine to get back to the present but while he is rebuilding it he and his ancestor work together and he helps design the vault etc etc and when he gets back well idk probly a cutscene of him.getting back and he would probly try tk find carmelita and cutscene for that and it would wrap up the plot holes sorta

[@jackzilla76]

Hmmm I think we're gonna find out soon I wish there was sly 5 I want to now the story

[@VtnVivi]

Same

[@outsideerrr132]

I hope they will be able to release sly 5 for PS5 that would be soo cool #Sly5 #Freeslyfromegypt

[@VtnVivi]

#FreeSlyFromEgypt

[@kaapacityofficial]

I loved this game... Idk why did Sony leave it :C . And what about a fan made sequel? If thy do that can they can sell it to Sanzaru, cuz sucker punch stopped producing it, and actually Sly: Thieves in time was made by Sanzaru :c???

[@chunkykong8683]

It's honestly a mystery not worth given unless you wan to go full Gravity Falls logic to this.

[@VtnVivi]

:P

[@Kaltsit-]

Good point Rockafellea

[@chunkykong8683]

@@Kaltsit- Thanks.

[@Kaltsit-]

@@chunkykong8683 Np m8. I don't even watch Gravity Falls and I know what you mean. I haven't even played Sly Cooper but I'm in love with the story.

[@Kaltsit-]

(Let’s say mostly in love with Carmelita. But she’s taken sooo)

[@freddrickarnold360]

We must rally together and tell sony on Twitter WE WANT SLY BACK 🙂IF ENOUGH PEOPLE COME TOGETHER maybe just maybe you guys we can get sly back if crash can come back we can get sly back WE MUST ALWAYS FIGHT FOR OUR BOY SLY. #saveslycooper

[@VtnVivi]

#FreeSlyFromEgypt

[@johnmichael2692]

We really need another sly cooper game we need sly 5, we can’t have it end like this in a cliffhanger

[@VtnVivi]

Tell me about it!

[@josephjeffreys1829]

I did look it up on google why the dlc was removed, due to taking a lot of space for the vita and time constraints

[@mr.verybat6951]

So we have teasers, tweets, a full DLC script (maybe even a bit developed), there is a trailer for a movie, there were plans for a series. Numerous interviews that have people talking about it and saying that they would love to work on it, and a few hints in other games that keep mentioning sly. A community that has been wondering for about 6 to 7 years and last but not least the owner of Sony who liked a tweet about Sly.... Yet we are here completely clueless, we deserve answers honestly. They simply can not leave us hang here!

[@VtnVivi]

It's sad.

[@blankblankness2971]

The worst part is that Shuhei Yoshida isn’t exactly in the picture anymore.

[@mr.verybat6951]

@@VtnVivi it really is when you sum all of it up

[@Kaltsit-]

I like that when I’m in the comment section. Carmelita is paused with her holding the “pocket evidence”. There’s a thing that I never got: police don’t just pocket evidence.

[@VtnVivi]

Hehe :P

[@Kaltsit-]

@Sir Galahad Well this isn't Mexico. It's France or Le Pays de France.

[@kevintran4114]

I really hope and I wonder Sly Cooper, his friend with Bentley and Murray looks better with Movie or Sly 4 design character.

[@Liberator...]

am thinking if clockwork already existed and followed all slys ancesters maybe because sly is in egypt and clockwork is following sly tunkhamen maybe sly can defeat clockwork in egypt and prevent his father from dying then no fiendish five and no klaw gang

[@slycooper4506]

Good news is I'm not staying in a cave anymore by the way do you know anyone who can translate ancient Egyptian nobody here speaks a lick of English.

[@Kaltsit-]

Wait there are caves in sand dunes?

[@herusolares5320]

Just remember to leave an artefact of your time period on Ca'in island, or ask your ancestor to pass it along. Hopefully Bently will be smart enough to excavate the Cooper Vault for artefacts dating to the time of your disappearence.

[@slycooper4506]

@@Kaltsit- yes there are caves in ancient Egypt I was staying in one for a while but I found a new hideout

[@slycooper4506]

@@herusolares5320 I've been leaving markers everywhere in Egypt so far I have not seen Bentley yet but I'm going to keep trying and figure out other ways to get back home.

[@slycooper4506]

@@herusolares5320 the coordinates I had when I got here said I was in 1300 BC

[@zackarymario1335]

i have for sly cooper tv show and sly 5

[@nero_yama6071]

Sony pulled the plug early they know what they were doing there still doing it to us. We want sly back plane and simple ps4 or ps5 but he's comin back either way.

[@CoreyMillionaire2029]

Like this year?

[@nero_yama6071]

Not quite yet but I suspect a trailer could be right around the corner, Especially if ratchet and clank rift apart sales do well plus when sly does make his return vivi will be all over it to cover it he’s the best!

[@CoreyMillionaire2029]

@@nero_yama6071 Do you think bringing back Dimitri Lousteau and the Guru as playable characters would be a great idea? I personally do.

[@nero_yama6071]

Definitely!

[@NitwitsWorld]

Poor Sly he got snooped away by the timeline

[@VtnVivi]

:(

[@TheAlaskanDude]

I would be fine with a reboot

[@treythornton19]

If they are going to make Sly 5 or put Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time on PS4 and have a new DLC episode to get Sly out of Ancient Egypt I hope it will work or not.

[@VtnVivi]

Either a DLC on PS5 or just call it a short game to test the waters.

[@treythornton19]

@@VtnVivi hmm, I wonder.

[@DiegoSilva.123]

Eu amo esse filme espero que eles estejam fazendo o sly cooper 5

[@pensrock_12]

I think he may be in future egypt if none of Bentleys technology ever found sly

[@VtnVivi]

Unless a new team writes the story that way, Sly 4 was originally supposed to have Slytunkhamen aka Egypt in the past.

[@VlogJourneyOfficial]

Should the makers of Crash handle the new sly game or who would you prefer?

[@VtnVivi]

Hmm.... My dream would be to have a 1st party handle it. Either Sucker Punch goes back (unlikely) or another.

[@pyko3448]

I just wished some one would make sly 5

[@leeviheiskanen1271]

I think Sly Tutankhamon the III is actually Sly Cooper And the reason I think Sly ended up there in the first place has something to do with Clockwerk Maybe Le Paradox made a plan B in case his original plan would failed Make an army of clockwerks and sent them to where Clockwerk came from

[@NaterBaiterGamer]

Even if Sly 5 released at this rate, it would now be on PS5, and not PS4, I do hope Sly gets the ending to his series that he deserves.

[@VtnVivi]

PS5 would be the smartest move financially. Afterall, Sly 4 released shortly before the PS4 came out....and look where we are.

[@slycooper4506]

Interesting theories VV but unfortunately none of it explains why sanzaru decided to just dump me here But thank you for making another video about my games I always appreciate the updates.

[@VtnVivi]

No problem!

[@slycooper4506]

@@VtnVivi okay VV as you know it's been 7 years since 2013 and I have made a ton of progress

[@slycooper4506]

@@VtnVivi La Paradox blimp crashed in ancient Egypt as you know and all of it had a ton of stuff and I have been using it.

[@slycooper4506]

@@VtnVivi there are tons of supplies inside of the crates that I've been using dried food, peanut butter and drinks additionally there is a blow torch and medical kit and rechargeable batteries and a backpack

[@slycooper4506]

@@VtnVivi a lesser man would have died in these situations but luckily I have been no lesser man I've always been creative.

[@brofistbro]

Hmmmm... A boss fight between Sly and Slytenkamen..I feel it could be great if it ends up having a fruit come forth..the creation of Clockwerk?? I have a strange feeling He actually originated in Egypt, not in the ice age..really.. I feel Bob Cooper is just the gene courier/ archetype for a Cooper...like he is the first Cooper, to start a specific gene pool or something..and Slytenkamen is the first Master Theif..hence the T.R. Spot on, about the cane detail...perhaps the coordinates for Egypt would've been FROM Sly's Cane?? Not a glitch..so many things up to one's interpretation...it feels like Bioshock Infinite One thing's for sure..the best ideas end up being cancelled..beta/cut content is so interesting... Egypt episode would've been awesome!

[@blankblankness2971]

When it comes to Sly fighting his Egyptian ancestor, that kind of reminds me of the ending of Infamous. In the good ending, Cole winds up having to accept that he and Kessler are one and the same. I’d imagine that if Sly fought Slytunkhamen, the former would wind up with no choice but to accept that he has destroyed himself completely... merely out of ending the beginning of the greatest expansion of the Cooper legacy. If Slytunkhamen did not expand the Cooper legacy, the cane would be the only thing left, and Slytunkhamen II’s birth would probably be prevented, especially when we take into account the damage he took from fighting Sly. However, this doesn’t mean that Slytunkhamen and Sly are the same person. It simply means that everything would stop because of the butterfly effect.

[@VtnVivi]

I too believe Slytunkhamen was the first master thief to create a legacy.

[@smellypeanut9566]

Ya know, Sly actually does look pretty similar in the 2D and 3D animation(also I feel like Vivi has put in more thought into his videos than the people making Sly 4)

[@VtnVivi]

I tend to dive deeper into the lore of games I love :P

[@BrennySpain]

But Vivi wouldn’t you agree that Sly cooper just has to be the biggest anti-hero in all of gaming ever just about? Like he basically is a villain through and through but he’s portrayed in a heroic way where you don’t see him as an honest thief taking back what’s rightfully his. I mean you know he is but he’s such a well written character that you don’t even notice his flaws as a kid and is only trying to go the right thing for his legacy. If anything Carmelita should be the one locked up in jail even though she’s a police cop. You get what I mean at all? Lol

[@VtnVivi]

Video from 2018 :P kzbin.info/www/bejne/opzZqIWKhbWKaNE

[@BrennySpain]

@@VtnVivi ahh thx for sending me the link Vivi! :)