SM64 - A-Maze-ing Emergency Exit - 0.5x A Presses [OUTDATED]

[@1starwarz]

You know, you could get a new controller if your A button is sticky. Seriously though, really impressive as always

[@computercat8694]

+Floyd Talbrook I dont think he uses a controller (?)

[@KingMagenta]

+ComputerCat joke

[@DatPags]

Mashing the B button while sitting on that elevator must've been fun haha

[@tacomeme429]

He's not mashing, I think.

[@DatPags]

Matthew Samar Of course one cannot doubt the skill of someone THIS good at Mario 64

[@zackrobot]

DatPags im guessing this is tas?

[@renakunisaki]

ZackRobot yeah. Mashing by hand would never be precise enough. These are done with scripts and tools to generate the exact inputs needed each frame.

[@pannenkoek2012]

DatPags The inputs (besides A) were as follows: (1) B + directional input into wall (2) no input (3) no input (4) no input then repeat This is the most efficient way to bring up speed up the elevator. Also, once I did a couple iterations, I simply used TASEditor to copy and paste it a bunch of times.

[@vissova]

I like to imagine Bowser watching Mario do all of this from his castle and the entire time he's just thinking to himself "How the fuck.."

[@weaponizedpizza8825]

him sitting there, wondering where the fuck he went when he went into a different parallel universe.

[@heave-ho6864]

Current A Press Count for all Main & Secret Courses (Including A Presses Required for Entry): 0 A Presses Required: Bob-Omb Battlefield, Whomp's Fortress, Cool, Cool Mountain, Dire, Dire Docks, Tall, Tall Mountain, Wet-Dry World, Snowman's Land, Tower of the Wing Cap, Cavern of the Metal Cap, Vanish Cap Under the Moat, All Toad Stars, All MIPS Stars, Bowser in the Dark World, Bowser in the Sky 1 A Press Required: Lethal Lava Land, Rainbow Ride, Castle Secret Slide, Secret Aquarium, Bowser in the Fire Sea 2 A Presses Required: Shifting Sand Land, Hazy Maze Cave, Tiny-Huge Island 3 A Presses: Jolly Roger Bay, Big Boo's Haunt, Wing Mario Over the Rainbow 18 A Presses: Tick Tock Clock Total: 38 A Presses

[@pannenkoek2012]

anubertiergamer This is not right. For example, Dire Dire Docks has no A presses. You should never add up half A presses, since that's not how they work. You're supposed to round them up or down before summing up numbers, and in this case we round them down.

[@heave-ho6864]

pannenkoek2012 Okay, fixed.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Checked alongside my own notes: Big Boo's Haunt should be 3 Wing Mario over the Rainbow should be 3 Total should be 38

[@heave-ho6864]

pannenkoek2012 I thought you're supposed to round down half presses. Isn't WMotR 2.5?

[@pannenkoek2012]

Yes, but you said you're also factoring in "A Presses Required for Entry", and it takes 1 A press to go to that course,

[@renakunisaki]

Also at first I didn't realize the building up speed part was in fast forward. I thought wow, the speed really builds up fast with that trick!

[@brianpso]

Man, I LOVE these new improvements on HMC

[@TylerKehne]

I love this

[@pannenkoek2012]

Tyler Kehne You better!

[@renakunisaki]

Wow, no room for error there. The speedometer is a nice touch, I hope you'll have it in more videos.

[@chlorobyte]

Rena Kunisaki Well it would be nice, but it breaks a few TASes.

[@renakunisaki]

Benedani that breaks them, but changing the camera angle doesn't? This game...

[@renakunisaki]

Benedani anyway, should be possible to use an external program (like in the experimental videos using hacks) to display it without affecting the game.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Benedani I don't think it breaks the TAS if you do it right. To have the speedometer, I'm actually using a hacked ROM with that displayed. I originally TASed this on the original ROM, so to convert it to the hacked ROM without desyncing, I also hacked the RNG and Global Timer variables to be identical to what they had been on the original TAS.

[@chlorobyte]

pannenkoek2012 Oh so that's how it breaks the TAS.

[@Who_Gaming]

Man I have just found your channel and just came from you getting the impossible coin a year back.... Just like to say Grats and HF breaking the game in as many ways as possible 😃

[@chlorobyte]

Time for my button presses... 0 for intro. 1 to go through a door. 2 to go down an elevator. 3 to become metal 4 to get stuck by red wires 5 to swim 6 to get closer to the elevator 7 elevator #1 8 elevator #2 9 to slow time down

[@tymewiz806]

amazing how many A presses can be knocked out just by having a way to get super speed

[@Xigzagamer]

and that's how Mario became an owl

[@CocoaMix86]

the time and effort that goes into these strats is amazing! Keep it up!

[@ametqulafi4723]

Mario sounds like he's going to drop the biggest mixtape in the world

[@ABCDEFGHdumbo]

Hoo! is now embedded in my DNA.

[@dusaprukiyathan1613]

I see him walking around and then I realize he's gaining speed. I ask, "how?"

[@Ultimaximus]

Oh goodness, another new favourite!

[@MarioFan587YT]

Pannenkoek. You are amazing.

[@NintendoNerd64]

marginally less terrifying than watch for rolling rocks

[@Syntherios]

pannenkoek2012 Would it be possible to have some kind of live controller display so we can see the button presses you make? I remember seeing one on some random SMW TAS and I thought it was amusing to see what buttons are pressed as the TAS plays out. Just curious.

[@computercat8694]

+Syntherios I agree

[@the0mini0prutt]

Amazing work!

[@NihilistSolitude]

Omg the boos have finally posses mario.

[@1ted59]

It looks like 750 speed is possible at the top of the elevator, 0.5xA for red coins confirmed?

[@pannenkoek2012]

1ted59 Red coins has already been confirmed :) I'm just too busy this week to TAS the red coin room itself where I collect the red coins.

[@ChickasaurusGL]

I love your videos pannenkoek2012! I have similar sorts of videos but with Pokémon glitches.

[@S4NSE]

+ChickasaurusGL I like :3 plz moar

[@ChickasaurusGL]

ardstsp Thank you very much. :) Another one is coming later today. (I often upload a couple each week).

[@S4NSE]

***** Awesome :3 greetz from Germany

[@Harrazel]

An a press is an a press. You can't say it's only a half

[@xenosonic9x414]

TailsXN You need to update your home to the Death Barrier, """""""""""""""""""""Henry""""""""""""""""""""""""" -_-

[@nelsonnicholson6175]

You aren't pannenkoek2012...

[@TARINunit9]

You mentioned in another video that you were able to reduce all HMC stars except for RollingRocks to 0x How did you shave off the 0.5x in this one?

[@MariaNicolae]

He used a scuttlebug to bounce over to the platform with the star on it.

[@tigershark8867]

pannenkoek2012 = videogame master

[@computercat8694]

+Gian Reyes Wait you found a not sm64-related video on his channel??? WHAAT

[@TaQJ1]

You should make a video explaining in detail how it works and how to exploit that in other ways, those are the videos I enjoy more. Once I saw your video explaining the cloning methods I tried until I cloned a goomba in Bob-omb battlefield, it was really hard but it was great once I done it. Nice videos by the way. :-)

[@chlorobyte]

TaQ -J do you know how cloning even works??? if you did, you wouldn't have to rely on LUCK. that was already solved in 2013.

[@TaQJ1]

Benedani​ I know I can't rely on luck. When do I mentioned I was lucky or something like that? When I said that I tried I was just saying that is difficult to do it not that I had luck.

[@chlorobyte]

TaQ -J we, pros, don't try. we succeed at first try

[@TaQJ1]

Benedani​ Well good for you! I never said I was a pro because those things are just interesting to me but I don't want to be a pro at this.

[@computercat8694]

+Benedani sure you do

[@a1diamond92]

wow how did you get this smart and why dont you have 99999999999999999 subscribers

[@sofiamuller4077]

an a press is an a press you can't say its only half

[@PlushSM64]

What a collab sir

[@randomviewer896]

>need speed 236 in order to launch to the platform You have speed 238! You're cutting it a little close, don't you think? Anyway, great job! I love seeing these in my inbox.

[@pannenkoek2012]

randomviewer896 You're right, I only had 2 speed to spare. The core problem was the clip through the wall to the second elevator hallway. If I tried to do this clip with too much speed, I'd lose all my speed. So I kept trying to clip through with just enough speed to make it work, and eventually I got it to work. Then I had to be super conservative with my speed!

[@chlorobyte]

randomviewer896 No he had negative 238

[@xenosonic9x414]

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[@12...]

See, your first 'advantage' does not speak to those who actually use 0.5 A press, and have to deal with the consequences, so is of no value. The low-level details of what happens in the 0.5 A press are not, and should not be, the concern of the user. They are the concern of the 0.5 A press-designer. If the 0.5 A press-designer intends for user's 0.5 A press being negative having certain consequences, then, obviously, it is on the 0.5 A press-designer to make a 0.5 A press-check after the 0.5 A press has been acquired to check if it is negative. If the 0.5 A press-designer intends for the user's 0.5 A press being blank having certain consequences, then it is on the 0.5 A press-design to make a 0.5 A press-check after the 0.5 A press has been acquired to check if it is blank. So you're saying that your opinion is "reasonable" while mine is not?

[@Twentydragon]

Doesn't the "M" stand in for the minus sign in this case because Mario's speed here is backwards? I believe something similar happens on the rare occasion one's life counter becomes glitched and has an "M" in front of it. The "M" stands in for the "−", resulting in "higher" numbers as you fall of cliffs but "lower" numbers when you collect 1-ups.

[@1ted59]

Yeah M is minus, you can get M25 lives on Japanese by getting 1000 coins.

[@samuelshock6292]

Amazing A-maze-ing A-MEI-zing A-May-zing

[@themightyaqua1145]

alchemist

[@TD0150]

Where have you been, man? I know you've been uploading to your other account, but I miss hearing your lovely voice!

[@Icesan4096]

A half-A-press video is a half-A-press video. You can't outdate it.

[@gdash6925]

I wonder if one can do it rta

[@waldemarsoroka5031]

how are you doing this!

[@11energize]

I cant believe how you do that :o You're amazing dude edit: also how is it 0.5 A presses? :o sorry, I'm not really into speedrunning.

[@jojo0753]

Read description

[@Thecreeperboombox]

ARE YOU BORP'S BROTHER

[@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353]

How can you be in Hazy Maze Cave with 0 stars?

[@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353]

Nathan Alger *Hacks

[@tacomeme429]

*Hax It's gamer terminology.

[@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353]

Mason Anglin I know what you mean but I'm not that good at it lol

[@pannenkoek2012]

***** Actually I branched off of the zero star run.

[@chlorobyte]

***** illuminati

[@oldgangstertool]

Gg

[@tacomeme429]

How do you do a 0.5 press?

[@mariophreak]

Matthew Samar have it held when you enter the level

[@pannenkoek2012]

Matthew Samar From the description: "If you're wondering about the half A press, read this before commenting to ask why. I use a special notation that allows for half A presses. Specifically, if you enter a level already holding the A button, then that A press only counts as half. It's actually pretty important to distinguish between the A button being PRESSED and the A button being HELD. While pressing A allows Mario to execute several kinds of jumps, the holding of A allows Mario to swim in water, do little kicks up slopes, grab the owl, and twirl slowly. So if a star requires the A button to be held, the pressing of the A button could have been done at some point in the past, and just held until that moment. For instance, let's say there are two stars: one that requires the A button to be pressed (x1 A presses), and another that only requires the A button to be held (0.5 A presses). Individually, these stars would both require a full A press. But if these stars were collected one after the other, then the A button could be pressed during the former, and held all the way through to the next star to be used in the latter. In this manner, these stars together would only use 1 A press, whereas they would take 2 A presses if done individually. So during a 120 star run, you would round these half A presses down, but on a star-by-star basis you would round them up."

[@bartonation5177]

How do you find these things yo

[@riverm5889]

Is it TAS?

[@chlorobyte]

"need 236+ speed to launch to star platform" you had less...

[@pannenkoek2012]

Benedani Well, I meant in magnitude. I had 238, which was 2 speed more than the bare minimum. I mean, I could have written that I needed M236- speed, but that just doesn't look right.

[@renakunisaki]

pannenkoek2012 negative speed is a tricky concept anyway. In real life there's no such thing (you can't move less than zero units in some positive amount of time); the game just combines speed and direction into the same variable (using sign to indicate if the direction is the same as Mario's facing or the opposite). Makes things a bit confusing!

[@1ted59]

Speed is a vector anyways, so 236+ speed is correct.

[@frogmin7994]

Obligatory comment on how it's still one button press because letting the button go doesn't count as a part of pressing a button.