SM64 - Hat Glitches (4/4) - Object Displacement Glitch

This video explains what happens to objects when you pick them up while holding your hat in your hand. The logistics of this glitch are pretty complicated, but I do my best to explain it.
If you don't know how to hold your hat in your hand, watch my video on it here:
• SM64 - Hat Glitches (2...

[@MrFavorite01]

These types of videos are really cool. It really lets some people understand how games are made and designed. Somewhat, at least.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Thank you. You know, this was probably the glitch that took the most investigation and testing before I felt I completely understood it. I'm guessing a lot of people don't really get what's going on, so I hope everything makes sense now!

[@pannenkoek2012]

I left the HOLP in that spot, and then performed the hat in hand glitch. Next, I went over to every bob-omb in the course and threw them in different directions. They all spawned at the HOLP, but weren't active since Mario wasn't close enough to them. Then once I went close to them, they became active, thereby appearing and moving in their trajectories all in unison.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Yeah, objects won't do anything if you spawn them too far away from you (not even fall). This can actually come in handy, like my video /watch?v=0mob8drwg3o in which I use the fact that the crazy box won't fall until I go close to my advantage, namely by grabbing it before it hits the ground.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Actually you can't do the hat in hand glitch on Cool, Cool Mountain since there are no cap blocks or any place to lose you hat. Also, the baby penguin disappears when it is too far away from you, so teleporting it that far would probably cause it to disappear instantly. But I like the effort!

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Held Object's Last Position Held Object Launch Point Hat-in-hand Object Launch Point

[@MrCheeze]

Are you certain the HOLP is actualy set to the origin by the game code itself? Or is it simply uninitialized, making it possible for it to have any value depending on the state of RAM when you start the game? Emulators normally default uninitialized memory to zero, but not actual consoles.

[@SuperNintendawg]

shit did we ever find oiut

[@xdeathcon]

I'm late to this, but I was screwing around and tested it on my N64 and yeah, it defaults to the same spot in BoB as in this video.

[@alaraplatt8104]

@@xdeathcon thank you for testing. better late than never

[@whatisthis2809]

@@alaraplatt8104 yep

[@pannenkoek2012]

Thank you! I investigate the glitches as much as I can before I publish them. I want everyone to understand them well, so first I have to figure everything out myself!

[@swiffy2249]

I really appreciate this video! I used to mess with this glitch several years ago, but never really understood entirely how it worked. One of the most popular videos on my old page is of the Bob Omb spawning glitch you showed at the end. Great work!

[@pannenkoek2012]

Cody Kimbrell Oh, can I have a link to that video?

[@bonkdotioimealol]

Little did he knew that this was going to be the most important glitch for the ABC run

[@joltganda]

HOLP Translations... Held object's last position Held Object Launch Point Holding Objectives Longer, Pannen. Healing Objective Landpoint Perimeter Hell, Objects Love Pizza. Hen Objects Laws of People. Insert more here.

[@omencito]

Why isn't this comment liked more?

[@asumie_]

Heep of lolli pops.

[@treyforest2466]

How to Own Levels: by Pannenkoek

[@cutecommie]

I am high on luscious penis.

[@bell1615]

How Objects Lick Pizza

[@givecamichips]

10:30 And that's how he did the 'fireworks' trick in the TAS competition

[@bluemew22]

Alternate Full version for the HOLP Acronym: Held Object Launch Point

[@1samper122]

bluemew22 It's held object last position tho.

[@Drozos]

Mario: Its time to die bob omb *takes off hat* *throws bob omb* Bob omb: omae wa mou shinderu Mario: NANI!?!? Bob omb: *TELEPORTS BEHIND HIM* BOOOOOOOOOM

[@pannenkoek2012]

I mean you could send me a private message. I'm not sure what information you want that isn't in the video already

[@Shydau]

I like how this is the beginning of everything.

[@mariomario8215]

So the chart for holding objects normally is sort of different from the chart for holding objects while my hat is in my hand. Here are the changes in the second chart apart from the first chart: 1) Bowser is added to the list on the right. 2) The lists are about where they spawn instead of whether the HOLP's placement is updated or not.

[@DorienTheHeroOfTheArts]

Told by the plumber himself. btw What's up Mario

[@MrBeanBag]

And then holp was born

[@OblivionWalkerVerified]

haha I loled so hard with that cork box one.The cluster of bob-ombs had me in tears! I really like your videos, they always make me laugh! the stuff you do in these videos is just incredible. Keep uploading videos. whens the next commentary video?

[@Metaknightkirby2]

Very interesting. Also Chukya playing with Mario had me in tears I was laughing so hard. XD

[@waffleless]

What does "-apinfo" mean?

[@Mabi19]

Map Info

[@falksalt9890]

They thought that the m in mapinfo stood for a negative sign

[@mickyazulay1386]

"M means the negative sign". M is for Minus

[@mickyazulay1386]

-Intresting-

[@zegirdor]

@@mickyazulay1386 Interestingn't

[@mickyazulay1386]

why did i type this comment

[@mickyazulay1386]

was i that stupid 3 years ago

[@zegirdor]

Shit happens. In fact that happened to me too.

[@Wingcapman]

I always wondered how I hit myself with my own throwing Bob-Omb by doing this glitch. xD This video was sure helpful.

[@vulduv]

10:13 mario - "HEY MARIO! CATCH!"

[@vulduv]

10:20 A METEOR! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

[@gamingwiththecrew5728]

how did you get 133 stars

[@MariaNicolae]

Cheats.

[@GreyJolly]

I could just explain how did he do that, but we first need to take a step back. Have you ever heard about parallel universes?

[@adamfra64]

I'm assuming hacks.

[@TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor]

Pannen is a god,he can make more stars

[@hevgamer6087]

what do you think cloning means?

[@computercat8694]

6:40 Premature objects discovered

[@alisiaale565]

I wish you good luck in collecting all coins the Bob-Ombs at the end did leave for you.

[@brianpso]

You certainly did a great job investigating how this works, outstanding!

[@ianmathwiz7]

6:35 the first glimpse of premature cork boxes?

[@abcdefghilihgfedcba]

this is really, really cool stuff

[@MrRyanroberson1]

4:37 "which objects does the..."

[@MrSmartGuy21]

That's grammatically correct, though. If you're not sure in that kind of situation, try and re-word the question as a statement. "The HOLP does apply to which objects."

[@MrRyanroberson1]

does apply is incorrect in this context, the correct term is "applies" thus the current grammar becomes "which objects do the HOLP apply to"

[@neehgurg2111]

Ryan Roberson no because "does" is referred to the HOLP wich is 3rd person, not to "objects"

[@Prochillah90]

so you say "the position do apply to" is correct... are you serious?

[@apina2223]

When you said the cork box spawned as a crazy box, i think it has womething to do with the cork box, even when you insert a cork box in toads tool 64, it will look like a smaller crazy box and when you open the game, it will be a normql cork box

[@want-diversecontent3887]

I want the cheat code for that debug menu!

[@SuperNuclearBoss]

I thought it was "Held Object Last Placed" not "Held Object's Last Position"

[@TheEssem]

SuperNuclearBoss1337 Games, Vlogs and ShoutOuts Why do I see you in every single comments section

[@opposition22]

have you tried grabbing a fake cork box while holding your hat?

[@mexamexo8]

how did you do the spectacle at the end?

[@trulshenriksson6688]

mexamexo8 He released the bob-ombs far enough away so they wouldn't load, with different rotations every time.

[@Echo024]

So the default HOLP is kind of like “Null Island” in Google Maps

[@counterfactual532]

did you add cheats to your version of sm64? my version doesn't have that many cheats. If not do you know what gives you more cheats? I would really like to use some of those cheats

[@pannenkoek2012]

What cheats do you want.

[@counterfactual532]

pannenkoek2012 all of them. the better debugging is the only one i really would have a use for right now. i just like having options in case i would ever want to use them

[@chlorobyte]

midnightcubing You can't have all of them. Maximum is 500 for each ROM

[@renakunisaki]

What address is the HOLP variable? And what does the "better" debug code do compared to the normal one?

[@pannenkoek2012]

I don't know where it's stored in memory. And the better decode menu lists Mario's position and OBJ count, whereas the normal one lists his speed, the angle of the ground below him, and his "state". Advanced vs normal: imgur.com/1jXd18e vs imgur.com/pKAD9wL

[@xenosonic9x414]

+pannenkoek2012 Intresting.....

[@xenosonic9x414]

+pannenkoek2012 9:37 Oh boy!

[@Luke-mb2hl]

So what happens if you were hypothetically set a holp outside the possible grid? In reality you just can't bring a holp outside the max grid right

[@SSDARKPIT]

A grid is a grid. You can't say it's a max.

[@DaysDX]

It can have a defined limit like the 999 coin _counter_ limit, or a limit in storage size, that is how many bits each co-ordinate can hold like the 255 coin _score_ limit. These would define the maximums of a programmable grid. A HOLP outside the former value would be reset to another value by design, and the latter would probably just reset the value to 0 each time it was "exceeded" by "nature." As shown in the video, HOLPs can exist outside the walls of levels with no problems. HOLPs existing outside the grid couldn't happen. Something would be done to set the HOLP value back to something inside the maximum (like the coin counter and score does) or the program code would likely run into errors compiling. If the grid is sufficiently large enough and/or "safety" measures like with the coin score/counter are programmed in then setting a HOLP outside the maximum should never be practically possible.

[@spoider1315]

Luke LeDrappier it would likely spawn in a PU.

[@dumdum7786]

The game would instantly crash

[@adamfra64]

Well, just look at QPU's or PU's. They're out the grid and available with a hyper speed walking setup.

[@Tales98]

Wow, really interesting stuff! I wonder if it's possible to make that glitch to spawn stars...

[@notchmath9642]

What if you grab a crazy box like that?

[@mariannmariann2052]

the enlarged one? it's premature, you can't do that.

[@onreload]

Ahh, OK. Didn't know there was a distance limit on this glitch

[@wackerysmackery]

where does the holp start at when you enter a course

[@TheEssem]

Chicken In A Suit It starts at the same position where you last held an object in another course, but it shows up in the course you're in instead.

[@adamfra64]

The previous HOLP, even if out of bounds.

[@defacube]

6:55 perfectly cut

[@avoided6458]

when you hold a fake bombomb with out marios cap in his hand and you throw the bombomb where does it go?

[@avoided6458]

I think its in a pararell universe

[@Cam275YT]

The Bob-omb itself disappears once Mario grabs the fake, so it's gone. If you throw the fake, nothing happens, because all Mario's holding is an empty slot.

[@onreload]

what. how did all those bobombs show up there

[@mariannmariann2052]

He placed the HOLP at that location before performing the hat-in-hand glitch, and then picked up a bunch of bob-ombs and threw them at different angles. However, the bob-ombs won't update if Mario is too far away from them, so they end up just stuck there. So, when he goes back to near the HOLP's position, all those bob-ombs activate and you get that effect.

[@mr.creeper7802]

Mips shouldn't have all capital letters

[@goldenwarrior1186]

IIRC, MIPS is named after the core of the N64, so it should be (though you could argue that MIPS shouldn’t be all caps to avoid confusing the two, but it doesn’t really matter since we know what he meant)

[@defacube]

8:02 bars

[@Patashu]

Very nice job!

[@TheGlitchGuy957]

+pannenkoek2012 How do you do that bob-omb thing at the end?

[@MrCoolioto]

The bob-ombs spawn at the HOLP with the velocity and direction mario gives them, but bob-ombs have a radius outside of which they don't move or load in. So, when Mario flies within range of the bob-ombs' load radius, all of which are centered at the HOLP, they all load in and complete their movement. The movement itself was caused by him releasing them by throwing in different directions.

[@TheGlitchGuy957]

Jonah blargle Thanks for the explanation Jonah, it is much appreciated. :)

[@janehuskmann1914]

*Sees all the Bob-Ombs a splode.* Well, that's _one_ way to clone coins with no entropy or buildup.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Sonsos Family * - *Bold* _ - _Italic_ - - -Strikethrough-

[@xxfillex7234]

Raffy Tabingo *_-bold italic strikethrough-_*

[@mariannmariann2052]

Only italic and strikethrough.

[@summar-ice]

10:29 - 10:45 how does this work?

[@SSM24_]

He placed the HOLP at that location before performing the hat-in-hand glitch, and then picked up a bunch of bob-ombs and threw them at different angles. However, the bob-ombs won't update if Mario is too far away from them, so they end up just stuck there. So, when he goes back to near the HOLP's position, all those bob-ombs activate and you get this effect.

[@finnaboing]

tl;dr its magic

[@SSM24_]

Yeah pretty much.

[@goldenwarrior1186]

@@SSM24_ Just like how goomba oases are made!

[@cros108]

is this kind of stuff this complex for all n64 games???

[@DaVince21]

+Christos Karamanos: Considering that all games use variables, and tons of games out there have some hidden undefined behavior that can cause glitches, combining that with the way these games are coded to stay within memory limitations, I'd say maybe. It really depends on the game and how it's coded, and it doesn't even span just N64 games.

[@UmlautBanana]

For sure. There's tons of stuff happening behind the scenes, even in something as simple as Pong. Computers aren't smart, you have to strictly define everything you want them to do; sometimes this can lead to interesting glitches.

[@cros108]

Yeah, I know, but the amount of stuff discovered for this game is absolutely insane. I guess if people put as much effort into other games, they'd find just as much stuff.

[@Cloiss_]

I believe the reason this game has so many glitches is because it is a pioneer of its type. No other large 3D game like this had been created before, so the way they chose to code the physics and graphics of the game was completely founded by the programmers, making them suboptimal strategies and therefore leading to many glitches. Also, they didn't thoroughly bug test the game, leading to many oversights.

[@nordern1]

I think the N64 was just at that wierd point in time where games started to get very mechanically complex, but the hardware wasn't advanced enough to use a lot of the safeguards we use today. They didn't have a lot of memory/cpu-time to waste on more sanity checks, memory protection, abstractions and the like.

[@pkpittoo795]

I did not understand

[@chickennugget8158]

What emulator do you use?

[@xaqt1]

Pannen tends to switch between two emulators; Mupen64 and Project64.

[@goldenwarrior1186]

@@xaqt1 He uses Project64 sometimes? I was under the impression that he only uses Mupen64

[@eduardolarrymarinsilva76]

How did you do the trick at the end?

[@Qbe_Root]

+kkkllleee (“mexamexo8”) He placed the HOLP there, then threw a bunch of Bob-Ombs in different directions. Bob-Ombs deactivate when you’re far away, so they all stayed in place until he came near the HOLP.

[@eduardolarrymarinsilva76]

Qbe Root Thanks, damn I should know this!

[@Qbe_Root]

Jack Sullivan Sure, but that wouldn’t do a great job of showcasing a legit SM64 glitch, would it?

[@xenosonic9x414]

+Qbe Root I was just kidding :)

[@kirjian]

cool stuff! :D

[@cxsss]

Can you collect multiple clones at the same time? IE, 100 coins at the same time

[@mariannmariann2052]

maybe

[@Diddz]

10:18 wheeeeeeeeeee

[@franklintangelo3456]

Hype Over Lame Ponies.

[@spiderplant]

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