Small and "light" - Seiko 38mm Solar Divers

[@glennpowell3444]

Always happy to see a good quartz getting on the scene.Seiko remember invented a quartz analogue to solve all the problems with pure mechanical watches.Quartz itself is 50 odd years old now.1969 .Solar is the way to go.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks Glenn.

[@d3xmeister]

Actually solar makes zero sense for a plain 3-hander watch. There is no reason not to use a larger battery. Some people do, Casio for example has many analog quartz movement that use a large 2016 battery which Casio rates to years but it’s reported to last 13-15. ETA and Ronda also have 10 year rated quartz movements (ETA 955 is know to last over 12 years) and also Seiko did made for example the 8F33 Perpetual Calendar quartz movement that is rated for at least 10 years of battery. And with this watches, you can use them and store them however you like. Solar watches only last as long if they are kept in perfect conditions, not too much in full sun, not too much in dark places, otherwise the battery deteriorates fast and it costs at 6-7 times to replaced compared to a normal, large battery. With normal quartz watches, you can have a true metal dial instead of a plastic one made to look like metal. Solar is just a marketing gimmick (think Citizen Eco-Drive), if you look at most quartz movements, there is no reason not to be able to fit a larger normal battery that will result in a better, more reliable watch. Taking the Solar route ups the cost while resulting a worse experience, so I can only assume it is pure marketing. Solar does make sense in power hungry watches, like GPS and RC watches, watches that have automatic backlight etc, because those watches can barely make it 2-3 years even with large batteries like a CR2016.

[@m1abrams1776]

@@d3xmeister solar makes sense if its your only watch and you wear it

[@d3xmeister]

@@m1abrams1776 Sort of. It does solve most issues but it’s still kinda pointless because if they will just put a larger normal battery, it will be cheaper to produce, much cheaper and easier to replace battery when the time comes, and again, you’d have a metal dial which generally looks better and is more reliable. Again, exceptions being power hungry watches (multiple functions etc) and probably small ladies watches where you just can’t fit a larger battery

[@alencode]

​@@d3xmeisterFollowing that thought, I believe that it is pointless to use any mechanical watch, being so imprecise compared to quartz ones. But there we are, choosing the x factor. greetings.

[@chrisbchester]

I have the black one in stainless. Has all the Seiko design language you love but in a case size that works for smaller wrists.

[@islandwatch]

Very true.

[@davidkphoto]

Just starting to appreciate quartz, thanks for your work and you have inspired me to do my own small repairs and reviews thanks again ..

[@islandwatch]

Great, thank you

[@Roughdraft214]

I have the one with the brown bezel and I love it! Awesome one and done, it looks dressy instead of toolish.

[@calebnewton_]

Wow, I really like these! The bezel looks great and the colors are fantastic.

[@islandwatch]

Agreed.

[@BlessedEins]

The blue dial one looks good!

[@islandwatch]

For sure it does.

[@paulhart2021]

Never thought I'd consider a gold tone watch of any sort...... until now! That watch looks sharp!

[@d3xmeister]

The blue one is awesome.

[@djapojunior]

Love this one, one of my favourite releases in recent times. 👏

[@roubaixred2208]

I got the blue one. Love it. I have no problem with quartz. But I hate the bracelet. Changed it for a blue silicone strap and a straight end link Strapcode.

[@user-pz5ju7mw3k]

I love quartz and especially solar. I only own a couple automatics. Quartz are perfect in so many ways. For starters it actually keeps good time unlike autos. They’re much more durable don’t need to baby them, no need for expensive servicing and for me usually perfect thickness.

[@bani_niba]

The seconds hand hits the marks on both watches. Nice.

[@islandwatch]

Yup

[@30kHunter76]

I have a solar tuna sne497. It is hands down one of the most comfortable watches I own. It's reliable and I never have to worry about it.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@AdAce21]

These are quite nice! I think the gem of the lot is the gray one with the globe pattern on the dial (SNE575). I personally love solar quartz watches

[@troublemakingpups5787]

Very nice! I do like that rose gold. Marc it looks so good on your wrist! 🙂🐶🐕

[@samdeatton181]

These look great. I have two Seiko solars that I really like. They face a window when not being worn and never run down. And "odd man out" is a perfectly good phrase.

[@soulsphere1749]

Got the PADI SNE575 but always like seeing videos of these models come up! Hope it stays as a staple and Seiko makes it for a while.

[@davidtrachtenberg7095]

I also have the 575. Great watch…put a Barton black rubber strap on it.

[@islandwatch]

I think it will be. They got 5 models now.

[@dustinr16]

Marc please make either solid end links that work for this 38.5mm Seiko Solar Diver (SNE5XX) or make an Islander bracelet that fits it. Such a shame Seiko didn’t give it solid end links. The Seiko mini-turtle has the exact same bracelet, but at least has solid milled end links.

[@Grendal62]

@4:45 what happened? the second hand spun around like an atomic watch or something. did you see that?

[@Grendal62]

really want an explanation on this, LOL i can't find an answer anywhere online

[@black79montecarlo123]

Waking from a power save Mode or needs battery replacement?

[@vladpiranha]

Rose gold isn't for me, but it's so cool and different I imagine someone is going to rush over and buy one. There's something for everyone. Nice work, Seiko.

[@islandwatch]

True, good way to put it.

[@TheBimmer74]

Great video Marc. I like the new camera setup and how it auto focuses onto the dial...so clear and sharp. The mic sounds more clear to me as well. I'm sure you're still fine tuning but so far so good 👍. Now about these new Seikos. I really like that rose gold one for my wife. I am so glad to see Seiko starting to introduce saphire in this price range. I also love that they are drilling lugs which so many watch makers forget to offer. And finally...I love that all 60 minutes are marked on the bezel. I use my bezels for timing when I grill out and knowing each minute that elapses is crucial to good taste lol. Keep up the great work Marc. You are always on the leading edge!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks so much for ALL the feedback, Jim

[@M3LTUP]

I was skeptical on solar Quartz. Until i broke down and got one a few years ago. They are really pretty awesome. I like these 38mm watches. Good video. Thanks

[@JoseAguilar-vt9zt]

I love these divers, great size, might get one in the near future. I also liked the PADI one SNE575 from last year.

[@islandwatch]

Good choice!

[@chanogonzalez7980]

The rose tone keeper. WOW 😳

[@fredey8856]

Wow, a solar quartz for JUST under $500 -- gosh, how does Seiko do it? Honestly, I grew up (in the 60's and 70's) watching my dad buy multiple Seiko's. They were inexpensive (relative to other options), they were well made, and thus felt like a superb value. I've tried to follow in dad's "Seiko footsteps"; but it's getting harder and harder. Perhaps I'm being too hard on the brand that I want so much to return to it's roots; but I guess you really "can't go home again" (so to speak). Thanks for the video Marc -- well done, as always -- and thank you for the Islander line....I appreciate someone stepping in (and up) to pick up the "value baton".

[@islandwatch]

You are welcome

[@ErikEmstad]

Focus tracking (or maybe depth of field) with the new camera seems quite a bit worse than the old one. And it might just be me, but it seems "shakier"? Cheers!

[@islandwatch]

It's just slower, but much sharper.

[@erolgermannemmanuel5637]

The bronze one is already concidered ordered !

[@SaSpursFan]

Can’t wait for islander 40 mm dive watch

[@islandwatch]

:)

[@wristcandy5451]

Great dimensions, well done Seiko

[@Cur8or88]

Thanks Mark! When's the next sale? I've got my eye on a couple of Islanders.

[@BoslyELee]

Hi Marc! Do you have any plans making and selling upgraded bracelets for these?

[@User-5amk1m0]

Hi! I just purchased the rose gold one you reviewed, I was wondering if you carry a Seiko rose gold oyster-type bracelet to interchange w/ the factory silicone one? Thanks.

[@citizent6999]

I bought the SNE587 all black model. Is there an after market black steel band for this?

[@georged822]

Is the golden turtle discontinued? I sure would love to get my hands on a srpc44!

[@aryehbaum9203]

Will the “gold” form a patina?

[@dr.n.troymatthews9318]

Congratulations on moving, a clear result of the quality of your product and service. My only complaint is that I keep buying watches! I already have 3 Islanders and love them all. You are tempting me to add a 4th 🙂

[@islandwatch]

Glad I could help, thank you!

[@stevenwymor1398]

You could say, “Oddball out.” Yes, PUH-LEEZE make an Islander bracelet for that line. I’d buy one in a heartbeat. Need one for my SNE573. BTW, Larry from Uncle Seiko discovered that his endlinks for his BOR bracelet for the Omega 20mm lug kinda fit the SNE. I ordered a set, but not really an ideal solution. Looks a bit jimmy-rigged. So, c’mon Marc, bring it!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks so much.

[@danzigcheever1530]

Hey Mark, I have a Rolex GMT master two circa 2000 with holes in lugs 20 mm is there a miltat stainless steel bracelet that would fit this thing my original 904 L bracelet is well worn in,a little sloppy but I’m keeping it.

[@derbagger22]

The depth of field on that wrist shot was crazy shallow. You might want to up the aperture quite a bit if you want to have your entire arm and watch in focus.

[@derbagger22]

If you're running a shallow depth of field, that might also be why your camera takes a little bit longer to focus.

[@islandwatch]

Gonna need more light then

[@hectornaranjo6475]

Is there a bracelet that would fit the SNE573?

[@REEE_Larson]

When are you getting more Glaciers?

[@Hipkip7]

Do you think it’s easy to remove the second hand on this watch?

[@ramspencer5492]

Is there a solar movement like this with a sweeping second hand? I'd totally go for one like that.....I can't go back to the quartz tick. It just doesn't work for me...

[@chrislim7976]

Glad I got my skx013 when I did.

[@dimitarmarinov4410]

Robin deek blue how much for this watches

[@karimmanassa9634]

Is the SNE585's case as polished as the SNE575's, or is the 585 more of a brushed look?

[@ghjong001]

Are there strapcode bracelets that fit these? Would the SKX-013 bracelets work?

[@enriqueparedespinel1694]

Thanks for the video Mark, could I use a NH35 movement in the Rose gold?🤔🤔🤔

[@prettysoIdier]

If seiko released a solar 38mm SKX like watch I’d be all over it. Closest thing is the Prospex JBM SBCM023 quartz. Such a beauty but you have to change out the battery (every 8-10 years, but still have to change).

[@islandwatch]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@reinaldoremedios5771]

I like those watches a ton. I have a 7 &1/4 inch wrist but I like watches up to 40 mm better. Marc, do you have ceramic bezel inserts that fit these watches?

[@JumpingWatermelons]

Why does this model range cost more than the SNE549 ? (which is a larger size, comes on a bracelet.. the only lower spec of the 549 is the mineral crystal)

[@thomaskuhn6541]

Great size, I'm starting to warm up to quartz.

[@stephenhatwell8607]

Like the rose gold one 👍

[@islandwatch]

Indeed.

[@watchuwatching1286]

I wonder if the type of crystal effects the charging rate on a solar watch.

[@islandwatch]

Only if it had an AR coating.

[@watchuwatching1286]

@@islandwatch Interesting. Thanks!

[@Biblicalgiants]

Can these rubber straps be purchased by themselves? If so what sizes do they come in? Thanks

[@zman8340]

Do I want one of these ? Gold ? Grey ? Blue ?

[@leynardtheseira6886]

I just bought a Seiko Prospex SNE586P1. Surprise surprise in the owners manual it says this watch rating (200m) is NOT recommended for diving! Good grief, "desk diver" indeed! I'm rescue diver certified and the whole reason for buying this watch was to dive with it. So my question, does anyone actually dive to 30 / 40m with these watches? Your feedback / experiences are most appreciated.

[@Sov92]

I like the rose gold

[@andreaskesse]

Guys u got to help me understand here. Im new to Watches. And to the seiko brand. I dont understand what u guys meen with solar quartz help me. Do i need to move around to get the battery charge or what? 😮

[@azdbuk]

Meridian Sky...another new brand......I am microbanded/new branded out. It is pushing me back to the old guards. Ill keep a couple each of Seiko, Casio, Citizen, and Islander and I am good.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks much.

[@fishlanding]

thought I'd go eh on the rose gold but it is uniquely great

[@islandwatch]

Yup. For sure.

[@itsallrobbish]

Like the look of these, but it needs a strap, great to have a sapphire crystal, but that bracelet is really disappointing.

[@hardyo8856]

Hi Mark - how long can the solar cells on these watches last? Can they actually be replaced once they start to fail?

[@glennpowell3444]

They are apparantly good for upto 20 years plus.The capacitor will fail first at that point.

[@rutheri]

The solar cell is a replaceable part and completely comparable to replacing a regular cell (just don't mix them up). In the Casio/G-shock world its not uncommon to be getting 15-20 years or more out of a rechargeable cell and I would expect this to be the same, as they'll almost certainly be the same/similar 3rd party manufacturer. Solar quartz are the epitome of 'set & forget'.

[@glennpowell3444]

@@rutheri I have a friend with a citizen eco drive he bought new 25 years ago and still going.Never had the back off.

[@islandwatch]

At least a decade.

[@peterm6332]

Rose gold or Rose gold plating?

[@islandwatch]

Plating of course.

[@parallax3553]

Why is this so expensive even though it's quartz? Just curious.

[@jannelrytenorio6455]

wonderful watch for affordable price love the sne585 love the blue dial and this would be great for a smaller wrist I think it will be much better if it has the cyclops and I already had the SNE435P1 PADI solar thinking about changing the bracelet to nato strap someday. wonderful review take care always god bless

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@josemedina1983]

Why is Solar Seiko more expensive vs a Citizen Promaster Eco-Drive?

[@islandwatch]

Not sure to be honest

[@watchmitch3699]

Marc has anyone told you that you look like William Thomas Hader Jr.? No offense, but I love snl and I watch your channel a lot.

[@watchmitch3699]

I just saw a beautiful inexpensive quartz watch by Bulova “precisionist 262 kHz”

[@selvonave1981]

I got my eyes & heart on the rose gold one so I might pull the trigger on that beauty. Great choice for the environment too being solar powered.

[@islandwatch]

Right on!

[@vals8062]

Looks like a Orient case, nice watch, something different from Seiko.

[@Mungojerry310]

Sne 586 is pretty similar to the yacht master lol

[@prettysoIdier]

The thickness under 13mm, maybe can just put this inside an SKX013 case and find an appropriate date wheel for alignment issues. Would this work?

[@islandwatch]

I don't see how that works

[@TMDude815]

Marc would the Strapco gold bracelet fit this??.

[@simonwright6882]

I wonder if they could fit the 4r movement in this case ?

[@atanastsvetkov1530]

4r are very thick. All Seiko auto movements are mainly because they are all modified 7s movements (apart from the very high end 8l movements and the newish 6l)

[@islandwatch]

I doubt it.

[@IansModRite]

Marc, I love your content but I must admit that listening to you, a Seiko dealer, play off a misaligned bezel made me chuckle 😂

[@pederlindstrom3132]

Hello Marc. You said it,, I sell what others like. I have a friend that had a "bricks and morter" store, jewelry, accessoories, watches, fashion items and that kind of thing. He said the same thing,, I don't even like half the stuff in the store but I need to have what costumers expect to find in this kind of store. Need I say he did rather well. By the way, watch channel,, do you know if the Seiko SSC513 is still around? Gorgeous green and semi square.

[@islandwatch]

Gotta keep an open mind when it comes to that. SSC513 is gone.

[@plantemichel]

Seiko is having a hard time with misaligned bezel, chapter ring. 🥵

[@デジャヴ杉原]

I like small watch 35～38💓

[@edwardcieplehowicz9712]

why is he wearing two watches?

[@vudoodaddie]

Are you okay? Lost some weight or recovering from illness?

[@islandwatch]

Doing great!

[@hitsugayat10]

The size is great but not much of a fan of those fat lugs plus my confidence level of Seiko solar is very low due to the bad performance of my Seiko solar watches as compared with Citizen's ecodrive line up. Still a no go for me, at least for now LOL

[@islandwatch]

Okay, thanks for watching anyway!

[@johnfrei9057]

You can still say “odd man out”.

[@juniordoido6025]

E muito lindo 👏

[@notreallydaedalus]

Is your white balance off? Because that is DEFINITELY not rose gold.

[@The-Warrior-Optimist]

You do not have a large wrist for this watch. It nearly fills the entire thing

[@proamericanlawncare6403]

Much Better camera quality I like the white background better And I prefer the islander divers over seiko

[@islandwatch]

Okay!

[@waffle911]

> Standard 20mm lug width > Sapphire crystal instead of Hardlex This doesn't sound like a Seiko.

[@islandwatch]

LOL

[@jaer.6540]

Feel like the rose gold looks too copper on this model....

[@paulhalton1543]

I am starting to dislike Seiko and Long Island Watch. Uggh, you both keep coming out with too many awesome watches! Maybe I should just send my paycheck direct deposit to you Marc. I hope you are sleeping well, because you are doing a great job of ruining my sleep LOL. Keep up the good work....

[@atanastsvetkov1530]

Looks nice. Too expensive for a quartz diver. You can get an auto prospecs diver from Seiko for that much.

[@islandwatch]

Price doesn't always equal auto/quartz.

[@atanastsvetkov1530]

@@islandwatch Fair comment but this is a basic quartz movement with a secondary battery. Nothing special/advanced about it. I just don't value it as highly as maybe others would. For 500 you can get a nice Seiko auto or any Islander for that matter with all the bells and whistles

[@Poborsky-fx1wo]

Expensive

[@danzigcheever1530]

💥👍😀

[@danzigcheever1530]

And I’m sorry to say I’m not on telegram

[@Sergeant_Fury]

It's funny how Seiko pulls it off without any fuss. No plastic moons to see here, no 9 o'clock date window with crown, move along folks.

[@islandwatch]

LOL!

[@d3xmeister]

Actually solar makes zero sense for a plain 3-hander watch. There is no reason not to use a larger battery. Some people do, Casio for example has many analog quartz movement that use a large 2016 battery which Casio rates to years but it’s reported to last 13-15. ETA and Ronda also have 10 year rated quartz movements (ETA 955 is know to last over 12 years) and also Seiko did made for example the 8F33 Perpetual Calendar quartz movement that is rated for at least 10 years of battery. And with this watches, you can use them and store them however you like. Solar watches only last as long if they are kept in perfect conditions, not too much in full sun, not too much in dark places, otherwise the battery deteriorates fast and it costs at 6-7 times to replaced compared to a normal, large battery. With normal quartz watches, you can have a true metal dial instead of a plastic one made to look like metal. Solar is just a marketing gimmick (think Citizen Eco-Drive), if you look at most quartz movements, there is no reason not to be able to fit a larger normal battery that will result in a better, more reliable watch. Taking the Solar route ups the cost while resulting a worse experience, so I can only assume it is pure marketing. Solar does make sense in power hungry watches, like GPS and RC watches, watches that have automatic backlight etc, because those watches can barely make it 2-3 years even with large batteries like a CR2016.

[@jaer.6540]

bigger battery = more waste. I cant imagine anyone on earth calling solar power "marketing". wtf???

[@d3xmeister]

@@jaer.6540 That’s not how it works. A normal battery would be usually double in size than a solar one, but it is easier to recycle. It will probably be used for much longer anyway, too many solar watches end up in drawers and the battery dies

[@d3xmeister]

@@jaer.6540 Also, I was specifically talking about simple 3-hand watches, not solar power in general. But this is usually the story with solar power, in some applications it is a Godsend, in others it makes no sense and it is more wasteful than normal battery power

[@ekkanofiqandriyana7325]

Iam enough for diver watches around the world, it get sooooo boring

[@James-el6lj]

I hate marcs beard. looks creepy.

[@coolhand1966]

First

[@islandwatch]

Nice job.