They keep 'offering' me a so called 'Smart meter' and I always say, "No thanks." I take the view that if the government or a company offer me something it's for their benefit not mine. It's all about money. Nothing more, nothing less.
@Missdoubletrouble54111 ай бұрын
Correct!😊
@peterjackson26257 ай бұрын
I put one in the bin most weeks.
@carolinehuguk63946 ай бұрын
Money yes but also control
@colinlea23776 ай бұрын
All about control,behave or b turned off.
@stephenshannon37066 ай бұрын
If you want to save money, smart meters have enormous advantages, giving access to smart tariffs such as Octopus Go and Octopus intelligent Go and many others. The world is rapidly changing and many people will store electricity in home batteries or in their electric car. Doing so saves a lot of electricity which might otherwise be wasted and the customer benefits with lower tariffs. This also benefits other customers that don’t have batteries, since it reduces peak demand for electricity which helps to reduce the price for everyone. An excellent source of information is the Fully Charged KZbin site where there are hundreds of working examples - which would not be possible without having smart meters!
@hazmat574911 ай бұрын
I would imagine smart meters allow electricity and gas to be rationed and / or disconnected remotely at the touch of a button
@gbhxu11 ай бұрын
Yes. They can even change your meter to a pre-payment meter
@dianegriffen275611 ай бұрын
I would imagine so too....
@jackwatsonepic62611 ай бұрын
I have had a smart metre fitted now for 7 years off utility energy and I pay pre pay and up-to-date I've never had a problem . it works for me . but I'm not saying it works for everyone 🇬🇧
@Kizron_Kizronson11 ай бұрын
I hate to break this to you. But they always could cut both without entering the property. Assuming they had followed all the legal procedure to do so. Legal procedures they are STILL required to follow even with smart meters. So yeah, the only change is that once the paperwork has been done, they can flip a switch instead of having to send somebody to physically cut the supply.
@stuartmcluvin479411 ай бұрын
Bingo
@alberttatlock154111 ай бұрын
They try to convince you that the reason they want you to have a smart meter is because it will help you use less energy. Would ANYONE believe that any business wants to encourage you to buy LESS of their product?
@whisthpo6 ай бұрын
Nailed it Albert!
@jackwaycombe6 ай бұрын
@@whisthpo They don't care how much energy you use. If general usage falls, they simply increase standing charges to fill the gap. Go on holiday for a month and disconnect at at your main switch. You'll still get a bill when you get home. The game is fixed. And it's not fixed in your favour. It's fixed in favour of some government Minister's offshore account.
@whisthpo6 ай бұрын
@@jackwaycombe Nailed it Jack! Robbed from cradle to grave at every opportunity.
@fatroberto30126 ай бұрын
I have always believed that the purpose of smart meters is to differentiate between domestic use and electric vehicle charging. When fossil fuels disappear, the government will need to replace fuel duties with EV charging duties. A smart meter knows when you are charging your car. It can communicate with the vehicle just like charging stations do.
@yuvalpn88386 ай бұрын
@@fatroberto3012 The government can charge the tax based on mileage Odometer reading during MOT or mileage reported online at the moment you sell your car
@stevvieb11 ай бұрын
Funny how we are now the meter readers for these companies. They charge more and supply less.
@dianegriffen275611 ай бұрын
It's *your choice* to comply. Refuse to read the meter and they have to send out someone to read them. Know too that any 'estimated' bill is not enforceable by any court.
@daveh617911 ай бұрын
My energy company repeatedly asked me to read the meter, I told them as I was not employed by them they could sod off. I also told them I would only pay £50 a month and they could put the price up as much as they like, as that is all I’m willing to pay, and that is all I pay. Isn’t it funny, how all the energy companies are owned by foreigners, this so you can’t dig to deep and find out who the shareholders are, or so they thought. The majority of mp’s have shares, that is why there hasn’t been much screaming about the price increases, if you dig deep enough you will what you are looking for.
@dc111 ай бұрын
I read my own gas and electric meters on the first of every month and receive a bill a couple of days later. At least I know my bills are accurate.
@williamthomas28306 ай бұрын
The same happens with self serve tills in supermarkets. You what these people scanning their shopping for the benefit of the owners profit. They don’t understand that the are slave labour putting people out of work.
@user-ug4zx2kj6e28 күн бұрын
To pay their shareholders.
@Vintagevanessa9911 ай бұрын
Anything with smart in the name is smart for the company not the public
@nigelnigel.11 ай бұрын
Smart= control.
@steve8380311 ай бұрын
Smart meters minus Meter Reader jobs = increased profits for utility companies.
@redpilledpict274711 ай бұрын
Years ago i was telling people when you hear the word "Smart" run in the opposite direction.
@davideddy267211 ай бұрын
Smart Growth, Sustainability, Resilience - all the pap being taught in our schools, these 'Non Profit Fiddles' et al = Agenda 30
@stuartcorbett490211 ай бұрын
Do you know what SMART actually means? Surveillance Monitoring Analysis Reporting Technology
@lkearney729911 ай бұрын
Interesting that a law which is against everyone's interests can be introduced with great speed, but when it comes to stopping people arriving illegally, there's much foot dragging.
@stoney20211 ай бұрын
If they're arriving illegally, then doesn't it imply there is already a law there? Furthermore there isn't a way to arrive in this country legally if you're not a UK citizen, on holiday or already have a job. Do you know of another way for somebody who wants to come to the UK to work?
@ferrumignis11 ай бұрын
@@stoney202 _"Do you know of another way for somebody who wants to come to the UK to work?"_ Yes, you apply for a visa. How could you not know this?
@lkearney729911 ай бұрын
@@stoney202 Sure but there are loopholes, which could be closed very quickly.
@douglastodd194711 ай бұрын
@lkearney Govt, will Attempt to Make Smart Meters Compulsory under the Electricity & Gas Act 2003, under Common Law Acts & Statutes of Parliament are Commercially Legal Law, But Not A Law of the Land and Only Becomes LAW If We the People Consent to Recognise IT as a Law. as far as i'm aware you can install your own meter. Save £ 150 yr meter rental on a smart meter, £ 30 a yr rental for a Standard Meter , Only thing SMART is the extra £ 120 IN the CO.s Pocket.
@scaryfakevirus11 ай бұрын
It's called the Kalergi Plan
@steveroberts945323 күн бұрын
Smart Meters, Smart Motorways, heat-pumps ,electric cars, none are designed to make our lives better or easier.
@peterjones-b5b26 күн бұрын
They have tried many times to get me to agree to a smart meter ... and have been met with the same answer ... 'f**k off ' !
@deborahwyndham-lewis518823 күн бұрын
I received a government letter advising me to get one!
@markoconnor438020 күн бұрын
Nice reply 😃
@DavidThompson-cg6hh6 ай бұрын
The only time the word SMART should be used is when it precedes the word ARSE!
@ianmclaurin847722 күн бұрын
I put some liniment on my wrist when i sprained it. it made my arm smart.
@rachelcaullay17222 күн бұрын
Lol
@stitchlover63319 күн бұрын
i like that i t made me smile
@johnricharddowling327611 ай бұрын
A few years ago my energy supplier (electric) repeatedly requested I receive a smart metre. I catagorically informed them I would not accept it in writing saying if they installed one against my wishes that I would destroy it with a sledge hammer. They never asked again. That company went under and now British Gas have taken over. They have asked once if I would have one and again I said no. If they "inform" me that they intend to fit one I again will write to say I will destroy the metre. I will not be forced by the fascist state to comply - over my dead body if necessary.
@Missdoubletrouble54111 ай бұрын
Good stand! Had me laughing out loud when you told them you'd smash it to bits with a sledgehammer. Note to self: buy sledgehammer.😊
@jamesbarbour84006 ай бұрын
Currently, these so called 'Smart Meters' are not compulsory to have, but the Government may change the legislation on them, in years to come. I really don't understand the mentality of the people who trip over themselves to get one of these devices. If they'd half a brain, they'd realise that they're giving control of a fundamental asset of living (utilities; water, gas, electricity), to a third party, who can then play fast and loose with said utility supplies to their hearts content. I threatened all my utility suppliers with legal action, if they tried to fit such devices to my home. My meters are outside my front door, in a plastic box, whom anyone with the correct key type, could access.
@B0rnles136 ай бұрын
I did the same years ago, when Thames Water wanted to install a water meter, I said that I would get a few friends with pick axe handles to come and help them install it and they got the message. I have got a smart meter for the electric now and the best thing about it is that I can top it up from the phone at home. It does give them the power to turn it off, but I have had a prepayment meter for ages and I don't care if they want to monitor my movements anymore. I feel like boycotting Thames water for the amount of sewage they pour into our rivers and sea and they charge £34 a month for chlorine flavoured water.
@RabCTR6 ай бұрын
To many conspiracy theories on the net. I have had a smart meter for about a year let's you see amount of electricity/gas so you can see how much you spend. So you can swith appliances off you don't need at that time. Also handy if you have an EV, I have an ICE as well. In a month £15-20 for 800-1000 miles in the EV. 40 mpg for the ICE I will let you do the maths.
@MartaVirag-fb2cq6 ай бұрын
3:52
@davidfloyd826211 ай бұрын
Smart meters are all about control. Once that is gained, ie peak hour usage, then different tariffs will be introduced. Not for the users benefits but a means to extract more money for over priced commodities
@patbuckley403911 ай бұрын
And to switch it off if they think you've used to much
@edc156911 ай бұрын
I’ve never paid less switching to an edf tariff that gives me 5 hours at 5p kWh.
@pootle509611 ай бұрын
@@patbuckley4039 Spot on!
@olwens136811 ай бұрын
I noticed a report on 'yahoo news' saying that an 'expert' has called on people to 'help the government achieve the net zero target' by not heating their homes in the evening. (Apparently we should heat them in the afternoons using cheaper electricity, then we won't need to heat them in the evenings) With smart meters they will be able to enforce ideas like this.
@Kizron_Kizronson11 ай бұрын
@@patbuckley4039 You clearly have no clue how this works. They are legally barred from arbitrarily cutting off supplies. By laws that are VERY vigorously enforced. If they cut your supply without good reason they have to pay compensation. Even if they don't cut supply but a fault causes the supply to go out they STILL have to pay compensation if they don't restore supply fast. Like within a few hours kind of fast. They also cannot arbitrarily raise prices. The government controls maximum energy prices, not the companies.
@kbolton939926 күн бұрын
Why do we have to cut down on our energy usage when politicians get theirs paid on expenses?
@sianglanrid-jones955 ай бұрын
I do not have a smart meter and never will, I realized early on that it WILL be a way to ration/control our consumption, why do you think they are offering them for free???!!! Have you thought about them saying you can see how much energy you are using? Oh, that appliance is using too much electricity……do I turn on appliances for the fun of it, no!!!! I turn them on because I need to!! If you were foolish enough to buy an EV then they can and WILL control how much electricity you can use, why do you think they are forcing EV cars upon us, WAKE UP PEOPLE!
@dieseldragon6756Ай бұрын
„Smart“ meters are not and *never have* been _„free“._ There's a *reason* why the standing charge has increased by a factor of 8x over the course of just ten years... 💸⛓
@leialee682025 күн бұрын
We will not have enough energy in the UK which is pretty obvious especially under this new government who are even more net zero focused. We pay the highest price for our electricity & gas in the western world, much higher than the US other countries like Japan & the EU which they put altogether with the average price paid. The EU come 2nd & we pay way much more than them. Get the candles ready!!!
@user-kn4hp4hk5c24 күн бұрын
My sympathy lays with the British cannabis cultivaters who may soon be forced to pay for the electricity used during the growth of their sumptuous end product which threatens to reduce the independent farmers end profit.
@tinaunderhill541223 күн бұрын
@@user-kn4hp4hk5c😂😂
@dieseldragon675612 күн бұрын
@@user-kn4hp4hk5c This might explain why the cost of houses backing onto electrified railway lines has more than doubled over the past 36 months... 🚂🚬😉
@yamahattr600611 ай бұрын
I remember this being debated in parliament and they said that no one could be forced to have a smart meter so they are using end of life to force people to have them they should have to replace with standard meters
@lynnepostings11 ай бұрын
"IF" they are no longer making standard meters ... then they NOW need to start making them again !
@ArcticwolfGamingUK11 ай бұрын
@@lynnepostings smart meters are not mandatory 14 Aug 2023
@AntonyClayton-eq1ul11 ай бұрын
Put this to them. Refuse to be coerced.
@Uniq_Jer31vs33_GodHearsAndSees3 ай бұрын
@@ArcticwolfGamingUK Hi. Do you have any more info about smart meters not being mandatory? I just had a call from the water company saying the old one needs replacing with a smart one. I said no thanks but the reason they gave is it's time for it to be replaced.
@tomcruyfft3262Ай бұрын
Eon called yesterday saying we could avoid estimates if we agree to a smart meter. I told them we were being blackmailed by inflated estimates.
@maskedavenger257811 ай бұрын
They were not still fitting the old meters but they were still fitting modern new metric meters that weren’t smart meters . I know this because I had a new non smart ,gas & electric meters fitted ,only a few years ago . They tried recently to pressure me into having smart meters fitted ,by turning my quarterly bill into a monthly bill. They also had the brass neck ,to expect me to do their job ,read my own meter & then go on line or phone in my own meter readings . I told them they shouldn’t of took over my old energy company unless they were prepared to honour ,all existing customers arrangements ,meter reading & payment methods . I also told them I am not a meter reader & they were supposed to employ & pay meter readers to read my meters every quarter .
@gbhxu11 ай бұрын
Legally they only have to read your meter every 2 years
@macraghnaill355311 ай бұрын
@@gbhxu My meters have not been read by a meter reader for many years, they are supposed to read it once a year, I do send in my own reading on time
@maskedavenger257811 ай бұрын
@@gbhxu I heard it was every six months . Anyway my contract with the company they took over ,included readings every quarter ,so that’s what I expect as I am sure the cost of providing quarterly meter readers ,was included when they calculated their charges .
@craigd626111 ай бұрын
Same here. Our meter wasn't read during the cough-cough years. We keep getting suggestions we could book a change to a smart meter. A meter reader turned up early this year and read both gas and electric. We still got emails from the company asking for readings, even within a month of that reading. They sent these emails every month, saying it was to ensure we not overpaying! Had a long conversation with them and told them they were only doing monthly emails to try and get people to give up and agree to a smart meter. Told them that wouldn't happen here. Then saw a comment from someone in the indsutry saying how low the take up is now, and they actually said that they had now got 'all the low hanging fruit', in other words the easy/gullible ones that said yes to a smart meter early on.
@maskedavenger257811 ай бұрын
@@macraghnaill3553 You should ask them for meter reading fees as you are doing their job for them . To add insult to injury you are paying them to provide a meter reading service hidden in their charges ,that you are providing . They are shafting you twice over .
@thedearjohnblog11 ай бұрын
I'm not saying this guy is wrong about the law - he's clearly done his research in that regard. But he's wrong when he says that anyone who informs you they had an old style meter fitted since 2014 is not being truthful. I'm one of those people and I'm not a liar. It was a refurbished meter, admittedly, but it was the enforcement officer who told the engineer in no uncertain terms that they were not allowed to impose a smart meter on me against my will and made them come back another time when they'd sourced a traditional one. I don't know why that happened, but it did. Last year.
@maskedavenger257811 ай бұрын
I had a more modern metric meter fitted around that time & mine isn’t a smart meter . So there must be still modern metres that are not smart meters available . Also non smart meters must still be produced ,as not every country uses them & owners of guesthouses often fit their own non smart pay meters in their paying guests rooms .
@dianegriffen275611 ай бұрын
It would be unLawful not to have alternatives to smart meters available. Some people *can't* have them because it would be a risk to their life - pacemakers for example.
@quercus329011 ай бұрын
@@maskedavenger2578 There are lots of non smart meters available, they are manufactured brand new and for a variety of reasons, and they adhere to government regulations for domestic metering. So yeah, I dont know where he gets that information from.
@lynnepostings11 ай бұрын
I think you need to get a SECOND opinion if possible ... on the guy who's emailed you that advice ... to be on the safe side !
@swoop135211 ай бұрын
Me 3. Meter changed in 2017, new meter is an old style.
@olwens136811 ай бұрын
We had to have a new meter fitted early this year. We said we did NOT want a smart meter, expected problems with the company, but after 'advising us' that we were losing 'benefits' they agreed to fit an old style meter and did. When the engineer came to do it we checked with him and he confirmed what he was installing. We also asked a friend who is retired from the business and he confirmed what it was. We have, however, just been informed that our energy supplier has been changed, so are prepared for a fresh onslaught....
@davidgranger362811 ай бұрын
I think a Faraday shield will turn smart to dumb .The companies will use the "safety" excuse to fulfill the government's orders. I foresee the EV chargers chatting to the meters aswell with the meters switching them to mega high tariffs or not at all until the small hours so your EV never gets a full charge and you end up walking everywhere where the WEF want you .
@Ashtarot7711 ай бұрын
@@davidgranger3628 I have an EV through work and I charge it at the civic centre when I go into town in the middle of the week to do a shop. Park up, plug it in, and leave it to charge while I do my shop. The rate is fairly decent, cheaper than what I get charged at home. There's no way I'm having a special charger fitted on my house, because there simply isn't the space due to it being a terraced house. Probably a blessing in disguise. I only have the car till I have enough saved up for a new petrol one.
@tonystock85611 ай бұрын
@@davidgranger3628the establishment is corrupt and have lost any respect from the public, at every turn they rip us off. never do what they say if it means we would be better off.
@davidhaslett977711 ай бұрын
@@davidgranger3628Exactly how do you think you can instal a faraday cage around an electric meter?
@davidgranger362811 ай бұрын
@@davidhaslett9777 Google is your friend 😉 once you have made it put a mobile phone in it if you ring it and it doesn't ring it's working
@davetdowell11 ай бұрын
Well they won't be installing smart meters in my property. If they try, I'll insist they remove the utility feed from my property. I'd want no part in their slave state, where the people will be forced into complaince, by their owners. I can't be owned, it's against the law.
@dianegriffen275611 ай бұрын
The energy companies are not suppliers of your gas/elec, they are only agents. They make their money from you having their meter, not from the supply itself.
@davetdowell11 ай бұрын
@dianegriffen2756 Try to force a smart meter on me, and they won't be getting any money from me. They can physically disconnect my property.
@dianegriffen275611 ай бұрын
@@davetdowell I hear you and am on your side. Energy companies *do not supply* your gas/elec - they don't own it, they are only agents. They only own the meter. You have every right, and it's completely legal, to get your own meters fitted - you just have to make sure the fitting is done by professionals.
@davetdowell11 ай бұрын
@@dianegriffen2756 No you don't understand me. There won't be any grid feed to my property to draw electricity from. If they insist on working on my power feed grid connection to do things I do not consent to, the only work they will be permitted to do, is to remove the feed lines from my property completely. I am not property, and I will not consent to being treated like property, either by the supplier, the national grid, the regulator, or the government.
@olwens136811 ай бұрын
Basically I agree with your position. My grandparents (born 1890ish) managed without gas or electricity for most of their lives- but of course they had coal fires, cooked on an old fashioned range, used oil lamps....However, the powers that be are already restricting other means of heating/cooking - making it more difficult to use wood burners, bottled gas and this is only going to get worse. If you are reasonably young and fit you could cope, but...
@elsestelema627311 ай бұрын
My electricity company refused to give me a three month bill but insisted I pay every month even though I never paid my bill late!
@rosemarydudley995411 ай бұрын
Sounds like my supplier for elec.. I only phone them when I get a bill to pay. I told them I pay quarterly NOT monthly. This was accepted by them. The old system with SEB was so much easier AND better.
@olwens136811 ай бұрын
Presumably trying to push you into setting up a direct debit as being less trouble ?
@macraghnaill355311 ай бұрын
They all do that now, no more quarterly bills, all monthly or pay by direct debit over the year
@phillwainewright422111 ай бұрын
Same here. I used to pay quarterly by cheque, but my supplier insist that I now pay monthly online. Okay, so it saves me four stamps a year, but I was given no choice.
@elsestelema627311 ай бұрын
@@rosemarydudley9954 And keep trying to get you to have a smart meter!
@briantyler68911 ай бұрын
Smart Meters just like ULEZ cameras need to be gt rid of. Permanently.
@jamesbarbour84006 ай бұрын
Very good analogy - they're not for our benefit !
@paulojnr97646 ай бұрын
Am I missing something as they have a screen are the hard wired into the house or just plugged in. Either way if turn everything off are they still running e.g. using electricity when I'm not. They're not for me things that are called smart arent
@johntaylor58711 ай бұрын
As I'm reliably informed is that you are allowed to continue to refuse these meters that they want to fit 😂 also you can continue as a freedom of choice and refuse them , not what the companies will tell you 😅
@barefootcontessa311211 ай бұрын
I had a smart meter fitted some years ago, I wish I’d known it could have been put in dumb mode, I’m also on a fixed tariff which guaranteed the price of my electric until March 2024. Nothing has changed in my home and the price of my electric per unit remains the same but my bill have increased, when I enquired about why I was told I had to have something in the house using more electric, I definitely do not. I believe the electric supplier has remotely adjusted my meter to run at faster speed so that I use more. There is no other explanation for the huge increase in my bills.
@whisthpo11 ай бұрын
Happened to my Father years ago, after a couple of months. his bill (but Not his usage) went up by £20, sometimes £30 a month! I still have dumb meters and I am £400+ in credit, which They are getting the interest on. Am I wrong?
@Melonie5411 ай бұрын
@whisthpo I've read a few times that energy companies can not get interest on their customers credit. It's not their money.
@whisthpo11 ай бұрын
@@Melonie54 Fair comment, so I can get it reimbursed into my savings account and I can get the interest! If not who has the money? Solomon Islands offshore account somewhere?
@Melonie5411 ай бұрын
@whisthpo Ask them for a refund then. I was over £1k in credit a few months ago & I got £700 refunded. I just went online & asked for a £700 refund. They processed it that day for me. They will probably ask you for meter readings so they can work out exactly how much credit you have got & then sort it for you. .
@whisthpo11 ай бұрын
@@Melonie54 That's Great news GH! 👍
@sueievers870011 ай бұрын
Let’s hope the “end of life” of my meters is longer than my personal “end of life”.
@NomadicNight11 ай бұрын
Lol.
@tommybinson6 ай бұрын
End of meter's life excuse sounds BS to me. Just like the humour, thriftiness, emotional blackmail and blunt demands the firms tried before.
@Captain_Scarlet_SIG11 ай бұрын
It’s all about control and manipulation but not for the consumer but power companies that’s why I keep avoiding one being forced on me as long as I can. Interesting info Andy thank you for clarifying.
@tommywright10176 ай бұрын
GReed that's all
@carlvaz11 ай бұрын
Thanks Andy, for this very enlightening video. I had an electricity smart meter fitted in 2019, but they could not fit a gas smart meter as per some technical problem at my home. I was not happy with this smart meter and asked them to fit a traditional meter. This was a real battle lasting about a year and numerous E-mail exchanges. Finally, I complained to the Ombudsman and through them they finally fitted a DIGITAL non-smart meter.
@vincemarshall855011 ай бұрын
good to know ,i didnt think you could go back once one was fitted
@jamesbarbour84006 ай бұрын
@@vincemarshall8550 that's what they want you to think, so that you don't argue your case with them - they know they'd lose !
@jimskirtt571711 ай бұрын
With a smart meter, they can adjust what you pay at the push of a keyboard key. So let's say that they overcharge (as they all do) and you question it and cancel your direct debit, they can load your meter to get the money. So rather than pay 30p per kWh, they can raise it to whatever they want. British Gas recently instructed me that my annual consumption was 20,000 kWh - whereas it's 14,000 kWh - and that they were doubling my DD from £385 to £790. Fortunately I have an old meter. I cancelled my DD and TRIED to get them to see sense, even sending them 16 months of monthly readings. So I waited the 8 weeks to make a complaint to the Energy Ombudsman. I won, of course, and BG now have to pay me £100 and say sorry (yes, really). However, if I had a smart meter, they could have loaded it, and I would have been in a protracted fight. British Gas don't listen to what you say (even though you are right) and their operatives are incredibly dim with very poor grammar (how are you, Leon?).
@jimskirtt571711 ай бұрын
@Alan-dr3vy What is? Try and be specific, then I will demolish what you say.
@alexatkin5 ай бұрын
What on earth do you mean "loaded" it? Billing has nothing to do with the smart meter, its done the same way as a dumb meter. The only difference is a smart meter sends the current reading automatically on a more regular basis, rather than needing a human to come and read it.
@iancampbell32026 ай бұрын
Anything labelled smart is always a con. Do not have it
@user-zb1yy2xm9v27 күн бұрын
True. The list is getting longer.... Smart....... phone, car, house, city......hmmmm could it be a plan to control the planet? I have heard that some countries are making it illegal to disconnect from the electric grid......
@kennicholson159019 күн бұрын
Very like the word Democratic. look at the democratic North Korea, Congo, and the USA party that began the evil KKK.
@jonahharpoon211 ай бұрын
My elderly parents have a smart meter. Apparently it wasn't so smart. One of their operatives called round a few weeks ago telling them it wasn't functioning properly. He did his checks and a week later they received a letter informing them that they owe £750.
@johncouriermeh11 ай бұрын
Refuse any payment because the energy supplier own the meters, not your parents and as such don't owe them anything.
@WhiteDieselShed11 ай бұрын
Mums meter clocked up £600 she did not use.
@jonahharpoon211 ай бұрын
@@WhiteDieselShed absolute piss take.
@tonystock85611 ай бұрын
@@WhiteDieselShedguaranteed they will always read in favour of the company, it’s a scandal.
@user-ug4zx2kj6e28 күн бұрын
They just charge anything they like. We have no way of checking.
@IamNotANumber11 ай бұрын
EDF have been trying for ages for me to agree to a smart meter. I told them when it's law. Now they're resorting to dirty tactics with the app not generating a bill once I've submitted the readings. Every time I've had to contact them they go on about how much more convenient it is to have the smart meter 😂.
@AntonyClayton-eq1ul11 ай бұрын
I switched to this bunch of crooks (EDF) from SSE another bunch of crooks (Pay as you go) two years ago. They tried by hook and by crook to make me have smart credit meters. Insisted on old style and finally got a refurbished gas; and new electric meter. Because I knew the score with smart meters. In dispute with them now over not paying them double-charge billing from my own pocket. Told them of the situation exposed by other YT video presentation. That they debit payments from the birthright trust fund set up by the government when my birth was registered. Which is paid by my legal fiction dead entity 'Strawman'. That they are only the collecting agency, not the supplier. Therefore acting fraudulently. When fraud comes in it kills everything... Ignored everything I said to them by E-mail. Like adding the letters VC (Vi Coactus) in front of my signature. Signifying payment under constraint; and rendering their demands legally un-binding. And if it came to court action I wanted my case to be trial by jury. Dictating they need payment of £99. Now in order to avoid legal action. Sending literature warning of all the steps they can take to recover this money from me, the living breathing man. One of which is that they would switch your smart meter to pay as you go. So there you have it from the horse's mouth.🏴☠
@Deb-vu7gk8 ай бұрын
Go to the Ombudsman and tell them what they are doing.
@MissJ742 ай бұрын
Same! 😂
@rodneygunn788Ай бұрын
Same here told me lies asked for subject access proved they lied don’t trust them
@ramaat273114 күн бұрын
Same. I'm unable to submit my readings via app anymore , keeps saying error . I just email it to them and they generate a bill . I don't need a smart meter I can read my meter myself tha nk you
@ladieshepherd847323 күн бұрын
When I lived in a Victoria, Australia smart meters were mandated for everyone. I said I didn't want one, but it was put in anyway and as soon as it was I felt electricity coming from the floor into my body. It affected my balance and when I went to turn into the lounge from the hallway I just kept going. My brain wasn't telling my body what to do. I put the house on the market and moved to South Australia, but it took a year to sell, and I lost the $20K i had put into renovating the house and garden. My elderly but fit neighbour was a retired dentist and his health deteriorated so much in the 12 months since the smart meter was put in his house that he ended up almost blind and could no longer look after himself. Smart meters cause so many health problems due to the EM radiation. The Victorian state government obviously benefitted financially from the electricity companies who didn't want to keep paying for meter-readers. They didn't care if they were making people ill.
@lyndadolan45616 күн бұрын
I believe wi fi smart meters etc cause oxidative stress, which in turn causes inflammation the root cause of all heart attacks and probably cancers and other illnesses. Can anyone confirm?
@simonbroddle75411 ай бұрын
I had a conventional meter and the date showed it was clearly "end of life". I'm also on Economy 7 so a few months ago I was "threatened" and ended up getting the new meter. I've subsequently learned that it is only smart for them. I cannot read my meter as I've done for decades before sending in a monthly report. In fact, the night mode is not recorded at all and even talking it through with their technical team it appears I cannot have access. Thank you for the video.
@simonbroddle75411 ай бұрын
@@johnbeach3861 Hi, I can see my import & export the same as you but the import is combined into one so doesn’t define between day & night use.
@merlin547611 ай бұрын
@@simonbroddle754 i had the same isdue with ovo last year after they took over from SSE. They made me have an app on my phone but it didnt understand the difference between night & day tarrifs. After spending a life time on the phone they said i had to do it via my laptop, after looking on line there web site clearly stated that there system couldn't take night readings.!! I think they may have fixed it now though.
@You-tw4zs11 ай бұрын
I know its more annoying but can't you submit a subject access request given its your personal data? You might even be able to automate a monthly subject access request email.
@robertsmart74846 ай бұрын
Switch to a proper electricity supplier, like Octopus Energy. They will give your information.
@buntybunny6 ай бұрын
@@robertsmart7484 OVO give you bills that state Day reading, night reading and gas readings, you can also read your own meter by pressing certain buttons on the meter
@lillymay363211 ай бұрын
Companies selling and passing on personal information or even collecting it; is that not against data protection?
@10tendogsdonie11 ай бұрын
Of course it is,
@dianegriffen275611 ай бұрын
Yes it is, it's a breach of your privacy rights. They *must* have your consent to do so.
@Martyn-ey9lw11 ай бұрын
It's probably written into the terms and conditions somewhere in extra small print
@dianegriffen275611 ай бұрын
@@Martyn-ey9lw Terms and conditions are still only an agreement, which you can change as much as they can. It's and agreement between you both. If you see it written in there you can add your own terms and conditions to change it, or counteract it. Too many people have forgotten this, and just go with whatever they say.
@Martyn-ey9lw11 ай бұрын
@@dianegriffen2756 Did not know that Diane, but I would have thought if you don't agree with their terms and conditions they would just say go elsewhere.
@leecritchley285511 ай бұрын
My theory on the smart meters is that as more people will be home charging their electric cars /vehicles , the government will be loosing revenue from the fuel duty it collects. It's possible, eventually this could be collected through the electric billing system.
@paulstimpson83011 ай бұрын
This isn't possible. A meter has no way of knowing what you use the electricity for and data connections to a smart meter aren't allowed for security reasons so it's not possible to connect your car charger to it to tell the meter. Sure, if you take 30A of power every night from 1AM to 5AM, it's highly likely you have an EV and are charging it but the electricity company can't say this for certain. The 2018 regulations that every new car sold must have a mobile data SIM card and connection so the car can send a message to the emergency services if you have a crash is a completely different matter. If you have an EV, it will know how much electricity you've charged it with. All cars with this fitted will know how many miles you've driven. It would be trivial to have your car communicate this data to the government for tax purposes. I have little doubt that road pricing (paying tax per mile driven rather than per litre of fuel) will come along at some time in the future.
@acelectricalsecurity11 ай бұрын
Well, so they should be charged fuel duty and vat at 20%, why should they be exempt, if I was manufacturing my own diesel after so many liters I would have to declare it and pay fuel duty, why shouldn't someone who owns an electric car.
@WhiteDieselShed11 ай бұрын
@@paulstimpson830 And that is how they sneak these things into circulation. Emergency call feature, then its suddenly oh gosh we did not know but these things can also track you and send a ticket for speeding or charge per mile etc etc...
@jandances168711 ай бұрын
As we pay the national grid via taxes to give us free electricity,why should I pay for someone's EV ,with 15 min cities they want be going anywhere anyway..I think it stinks too I want have EV as it 1000% more pollutant then a diesel adding radiation given off by EVs daily will kill u..
@DanielImmanuel214311 ай бұрын
You're only right. I've been telling people this many times
And the over arching end result is all about total control !
@NionXenion-gh7rf6 ай бұрын
term digitalization/digitization is new name for control
@jamesbarbour84006 ай бұрын
@@NionXenion-gh7rf pretty much !
@jacqueboyce31766 ай бұрын
at the beginning of this decades ago S.M.A.R.T. was initially an acronym for Surveilance Monitoring by Artificial Radiation Technology
@user-gt2jh1eb4l6 ай бұрын
I put my electric off 14hr a day very small bills f them I am not paying for it
@Dinger15411 ай бұрын
My neighbours had a smart meter fitted and their daily usage went up from £5 to £30 or £40., so something was obviously wrong. The supplier would not listen and insisted that the meter was working correctly so my neighbour called in a qualified electrician to check it out. The electrician condemned the installation and said they were lucky their house had not burned down. The supplier when told about the findings sent in their own man and confirmed the electrician's conclusion. The original fitter was obviously not an electrician, just a geezer with a screwdriver who did a 2 day course and was let loose to cause havoc. The supplier is still insisting that my neighbour pay the outstanding bill which is about £3,000 so on my advice they have gone to a lawyer to get compensation from the supplier for all the alarm and distress caused by their incompetence.
@AntonyClayton-eq1ul11 ай бұрын
Screw the screwers.
@Deb-vu7gk8 ай бұрын
Absolutely appalling
@moyrakeatings787817 күн бұрын
How dreadful.
@denicase944411 ай бұрын
Extremely useful information here that everyone needs to hear! 🙏
@martingibbs117911 ай бұрын
Traditional meters were fitted post 2014. We had a house fire so the entire house was rebuilt over 2016/2017 and the "new" meter installed by UK power networks is a Landis & Gyr 5235A (80A L) according to octopus energy and is definately a traditional meter there are no smart fetures about it. I remember hearing in the news a while ago that some minister had so many problems after getting a smart meter that the law to force smart meters was chucked out, and the minister got a traditional meter again.
@NomadicNight11 ай бұрын
That sounds about right ! - I've often said that until things that the most disagree with start to affect politicians, nothing will change significantly for the better.
@lindabowman28685 ай бұрын
Dangerous if you have a pace makers btw, they won't tell you that..!!! And also G5 towers are not allowed near schools but we have one within METRES of our house!!! Older people don't matter????
@incognito759711 ай бұрын
We get contacted every week,by phone by email by letter and even people coming to the door,their desperate to install a smart meter,this can only mean one thing,more money.
@stephenrogers799511 ай бұрын
Luckily the new population that is arriving daily, will not have to worry about smart meters or energy costs, as it's all free for them, no worries.
@FunkOsax6 ай бұрын
That isn’t true
@omegadeep16 ай бұрын
Don't be an arse 😮😂😂😂😂
@70sboy986 ай бұрын
For those who disagree, come to Yeovil and you’ll see for yourself.
@jimduffy19676 ай бұрын
That's rubbish,blame the Tory fuckin government for selling off all the power companies,not the new population, electricity and gas should have stayed nationalised.
@andyhinds5426 ай бұрын
And you know that to be true? How? 🙄
@Tomm9y26 күн бұрын
So why was this legislation passed, even way back in 2000's or before. It's time for the civil servants, legislators, MP's Peers to be sued for this sort of over reach of service providers.
@blxtothis8 ай бұрын
I’m always somewhat wary of anybody described as an “Expert”.
@Hattonbank6 ай бұрын
Are you an expert at your job? If you say you are, I won't believe you.
@karlwilkins328511 ай бұрын
Very useful Andy, thank you
@TheBILLANDERSON11 ай бұрын
My son in law is an gas engineer,, where he is called to inspect for gas leak at residential dwelling , First on the list , park his vehicle well away from the dwelling , then leave his (radio frequency) RF mobile phone as it givers off RF in the vehicle . From there on approach on foot he will approach the dwelling and insert his "gas sniffer" thorough the letter box to test of any gas's A " point to note" is that the Smart meter gives off RF at regular intervals and can cause 💥 which it has done , and brought the house down and damaged neighbors eg Tinsley, Sheffield
@lindafox561211 ай бұрын
I know someone personally who had an old style meter fitted in 2019. He did not want the smart meter and was told they didn’t make or supply them any more. When the fitter came to install the new “Smart” meter he regaled his story to the fitter. The fitter happened to have a couple of old style meters in the van so he fitted one of those instead.
@15heartz11 ай бұрын
It's a manufacturing blackouts, that is what smart meter will do
@k.chriscaldwell414111 ай бұрын
_”Oh, look Mary. Bob’s house is dark. I warned him about questioning the immigration policy. What? No, we cant help him. Do you want our meter to get cut off as well?!”_
@spitzsticker11 ай бұрын
Thanks Andy Very useful info. I am resisting the ‘smart meters’ so looked for the end dates on my meters but failed to find them. Useful to know that the threats if not changed are eventually lawful.
@ArcticwolfGamingUK11 ай бұрын
smart meters are not mandatory 14 Aug 2023
@110adventures76 ай бұрын
I'm a bit late to the party on this video. I had a phone call from my energy provider (British Gas) in December, I was told an appointment has been made to fit my smart meter in January, I replied I don't want one thank you. I was then told my old meter would stop working in January, I replied can I speak to a supervisor as I believe this to be incorrect and illegal. The caller then hung up.
@jamesbarbour84006 ай бұрын
Good for you - very dirty, low, under handed tactics on the part of the supplier. Makes you wonder, sometimes, what's behind it all, that they'd resort to such measures......
@tommybinson6 ай бұрын
My supplier sent an attractive rep to persuade me. She said she had grown to love her s-meter. I charmingly rejected her conversion attempt.
@wildthing666881311 ай бұрын
As the date gets closer they will start using the term end of life/certification period to get people to have smart meters even getting court warrants to install them. The cost of the warrants will be put on to the users bill which could mean that someone who paid a monthly DD is put on to a prepayment tariff without them knowing of the change.
@quercus329011 ай бұрын
dont think that would be legal, adding court costs onto an electric bill
@lynnepostings11 ай бұрын
Pre payment meters ... are brilliant. Contrary to what they want you to think ! Mine was already in my place when I moved in ... 17 yrs ago and I was initially annoyed/worried to find it there ... but grew to really liking it. I keep attempting to pass on info about the benefits/ pro's ... but EVERY TIME my posts are instantly deleted ! Why ??
@macraghnaill355311 ай бұрын
@@lynnepostings payment meters cost you more in the long run
@lynnepostings11 ай бұрын
PREPAYMENT meters have all the SAME benefits of a smart meter ... apart from sending your reading in !
@lynnepostings11 ай бұрын
@@macraghnaill3553 I''ve not noticed any problem ... to be honest. Just been used to it, how it is ( and I'm CERTAINLY not wealthy ) And when faced with the alternative .... A smart meter ... I BY FAR prefer to stay the way I am ! As far as I am concerned the benefits outweigh all else ... and less complications.
@peterlaidler389511 ай бұрын
Excellent and enlightening information Andy. I am constantly badgered to have one fitted but have always declined. This info will come in most useful in the future I've no doubt. many thanks
@interabang11 ай бұрын
I just posted on another of your videos about the lifespan of a meter. I always thought it was 25 years but it was worth knowing it might be longer. My bit of advice is when they keep pestering you about the age of the meter just swap provider which delays it again.
@Choober658 ай бұрын
Bad law is NO law. Try to install a smeter in my home by force, expect to have your life insurance pay your widow. To the uk "government", yourshitty " laws" do NOT apply on my property. MY LAWS apply on my property. Use of deadly force to defend MY property IS authorised. Funny how our old meter, installed in 1970 was in there for 40 years, no problems.
@izzyplant842821 күн бұрын
Thank you both.
@franktuckwell1965 ай бұрын
I have a letter from Ovo energy, who took over my existing company, stating that until i have a smart meter fitted, they will not sell me any re-newable electricity, (that smacks of Blackmail), like that generated by solar, wind or water power. I said i would only accept a smart meter being fitted (and having to surrender a much needed plug socket), when they can prove that if at any time that i choose to change my supplier, they can guarantee that the meter will still operate properly and not go haywire like a lot of them have been doing in the news of late. So far, stalemate.
@Super_Lancashire6 ай бұрын
Interesting video/advice. Very informative. Thank you. My energy company keep sending me emails/messages to get a smart meter installed. I give them monthly meter readings through there online customer account/direct debit. It works for me and that's how it'll stay until if ever becomes mandatory by law. 👍
@rickythomson8085 ай бұрын
I’m that smart I told them to take a hike😂😂
@gillfinney369911 ай бұрын
Hi Andy. Like me one of your other commentors, I like having a smart meter. I wrote to you a few weeks ago and got several very cruel remarks back because I said I had willingly had one fitted for electric and gas. As I had recently been widowed, my daughter, she 43,who lived with us took over her dad's roll of paying bills as I was not getting state pension at that time but Ill health prevented me from working. We were not pressured into having them, a representative of both firms talked us through what having a smart meter would mean for us and left us to make up our minds. As our local council had installed solar panels a few years ago we get a fair amount of free electric during daylight hours,no storage facility though. Having the meter disallowed us to watch our usage and budget to the point that we use ,on average, less than £3.00 per day on both fuels, approx £50per month on electric and the same a QUARTER on has virtually all year round . I bet the shoddy peop!e who sent emails pay more than that!!!
@nickcoppard53356 ай бұрын
Old wheel meter and panels they would owe you money
@Humanity101-zp4sq6 ай бұрын
Electricity supply companies are exposed to price volatility in the wholesale energy markets. In order to mitigate this expose to price volatility, the supply companies are able to predict consumption with greater accuracy. The smart meters protect the suppliers from price volatility by providing data which enables companies to more accurately predict consumption and therefore manage their buying strategy more efficaciously. Smart meters are intended to serve the profit motive of the suppliers, not the householder.
@davidmorris-jones2105 ай бұрын
Im a UK radio operator & we know that the microwave emissions from cellular, smart meters emit these emissions services are not safe. FYI I have been monitoring various military frequencies & decoding the various navies radio texts, with my equipment connected to a Linux computer. UK, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia are Live exercising like crazy & UK forces with NATO forces in UK waters. For the last 2 years military aircraft are being moved to civilian airports. They did this before WW II.
@corstafine11 ай бұрын
Morning Andy, sat with my cuppa watching your vid. Keep up the good work, support from liberal Hellscape San Fran-Bristol
@bentuffin635711 ай бұрын
I'll go with out electric from the grid and get a generator if that's the case. Never will I ever have one of them. I'm still on analog one. If they take it out nothing will be going back in its place
@micksroversmg55811 ай бұрын
Buy a Lister Petter Ad1 4kw Macron gen set most economical gen set on diesel I have ever encountered they use a gallon of diesel per 13 hour shift! They are old noisey and smokey but very economical most economical gen set I have ever came across!
@edc156911 ай бұрын
Bravo
@quercus329011 ай бұрын
@@micksroversmg558 that sounds very expensive, such generators cost thousands of pounds. How many litres of diesel does it use to generate 4kw/hour?
@martinwarner11786 ай бұрын
Very topical video for me Andy, because my energy company are pressing me for a smart meter, that I'm not wanting. Your video is short, to the point, and very useful. Peace and goodwill.
@tonyorourke506611 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update Andy. A few years ago I found my electric meter seemed to be going too quick. So I contacted SP and they sent a guy out to check. 2017. I asked for a new meter but they said it was ok. I too have been bombarded with emails and texts telling me my meters old and needs replacing. Funny how they said it was ok before. I’d love to find out the expiry date and see if it’s a 40 year Unit.
@Martyn-ey9lw11 ай бұрын
There is a website that stipulates the certification period of the different makes and models of meter, but you would need to know when your meter was last refurbished (if it's the type with a rotating disc) if it's a digital meter the original certification period was 10 years but I believe they were going to take samples at or around the 10 year mark and if the accuracy hadn't drifted they would extend the life span. digital meters couldn't be refurbish and re-certified.
@neilgodwin65319 ай бұрын
Mechanical hardware wears out. Who'd have thought it?
@spotlight_kid8 ай бұрын
Another small point, also I reason I will resist smart meters as long as I can, is that the company that is running the software for these meters is DCC, a subsidiary of Capita, and if you fancy a look at Capita's Wikipedia page, you will be able to resd about the poor standard of work they carried out for the NHS a few years back. With a record like that, it fills me with no confidence whatsoever that everything will run smoothly and on time. Also, sorry to go on, are we allowed to insist on seeing the installer's qualifications before we let them in the house ?
@fleabag2mr.1518 күн бұрын
Warning: Don't let them install a smart meter. With a smart meter, electricity companies can charge higher rates at certain times of the day. This is peak/off peak rates. Our electricity rates in 3 years increased 51%, and in 10 years, it increased 110% in California.
@richardrozmanowski87536 ай бұрын
As a sales representative with a company car, based in London W1, EC4 and SE1 areas, I learnt all the short cuts from taxi drivers. Thank you.
@vicflange517511 ай бұрын
An old style meter doesn't become dangerous after an expiry date, Which? magazine have confirmed this. True energy companies have been asked to get customers all smart metered by 2025 but smart meters are not mandatory. Supply of replacement meters may be an issue, but if it does need to be a smart meter, due to supply issues, get it put in dumb mode.
@eabr288111 ай бұрын
Thank you for this information. Very enlightening. Information is power.
@eileenspamer11 ай бұрын
i would never have one like Alexa or the jibby jabby
@davidendsor21911 ай бұрын
Here's a question, can smart meters tell the energy companies when Gas/electricity gets used most (time of day) and can they use that to impose higher tarrifs at those times.
@whisthpo11 ай бұрын
Yes
@edc156911 ай бұрын
Yes and lower prices at other times, I pay 5p kWh for some hours.
@edc156911 ай бұрын
Doesn’t apply to gas though, not sure the meters for gas support half-hourly billing
@kenstevens506511 ай бұрын
I don't know about adjusting tariffs but a few years ago when they were starting to be introduced one reason to go smart was to save the generating companies money and cut emissions as they could measure national consumption on the grid instantly and tailor use of back up systems used in times of high demand. Of course we still have the highest prices than most of Europe and the possibility of power cuts. Sounds the British way at it's best to me.
@edc156911 ай бұрын
You can set them up so they only report to your provider daily or monthly billing if you choose - though you’ll have to have trust in the system that they are actually doing that!
@user-tg9ni2gw2n23 күн бұрын
Im with EDF for gas and electricity. I can only get a fixed or cheaper tariff with them if i agree to a smart meter 😡. We are pensioners and fuming cuz WE DO NOT WANT A SMART METER. Any energy company should not be allowed to do this to people, if we don’t want a meter fitted then don’t penalise us
@gizzapint18 күн бұрын
Same here. With EDF .
@ML-jr1yz11 ай бұрын
Mine run out of date and i demanded to be replaced with the same one what they did, no long ago.
@Travatain11 ай бұрын
Hi Andy, I think your channel is great and agree with just about all of your comments and views. Having said that I must confess to being one of the few subscribers who actually likes his smart meter and asked for it to be fitted in the first place! Let me explain, my gas and electric meters are both in my front lounge and in difficult places behind settees and other furniture. This was a real pain every time the meters had to be read, so that is why I wanted a smart meter, which has indeed solved the problem. A few years after this the energy crisis hit us and I decided to get solar panels installed which also work very well for me. Now I am want to move to a better tariff to save money and for this you have to have a smart meter, so I can do this with no problem. I will say that I do not trust the government at all since the events of 2019, and I would not be surprised if they used the energy companies to get the meters to switch off power if electricity is in short supply, as it may well be. However they could do this anyway by just switching off circuit breakers at the substations. I hate that the government are continually trying to find more and more ways to control us, using excuses such as the futile net zero plan, they will bankrupt the country if this continues.
@kjp13611 ай бұрын
Have to agree, there seems to a lot of tin foil hats on here for no good reason. I'm on a variable tariff and it saved me 20% last month.
@bernardm231211 ай бұрын
There are some very good tariffs at the moment for those with smart meters. I may be cutting off my nose to spite my face by refusing to have one. My feeling is that in the future, rather than having cheaper tariffs during periods of low demand, the cost of gas and electricity will be increased further still when demand is high. I'm probably wrong about that of course! One thing I am sure of is that we are still being charged far too much for our gas and electricity, and it seems that the price cap is a really bad idea.
@TheEmbeddedHobbyist11 ай бұрын
@@bernardm2312 i have a smart meter and solar and on a good day they pay me more than i pay them. so who's being smart here.
@mavericktriple94889 ай бұрын
Myself I was informed a couple of months ago that the energy company has done away with quarterly bills. Now I've got to pay monthly. When you are on a fixed income it can be a struggle. For years now they've wanted to fit a smart meter, I don't want it, another way in controlling us. Saw the other day where these companies were taking payments out and customers had no idea because paying by direct debit. If they had there way they take all your money, and once that's done the shirt off your backs.
@alexatkin5 ай бұрын
When on a fixed income surely monthly is easier?
@googoo55420 күн бұрын
Thank you, its all about control
@golden.lights.twinkle232911 ай бұрын
In the USA, they are pushing 'smart thermostats'. I'm sure they are about control as well. Most are 'Google thermostats'. They have to be connected by wi-fi to the internet at all times. Thus they can be monitored or even adjusted remotely.
@colinwilson2108 ай бұрын
One thing to note is when the server that operates these "smart thermostats" is shut down, you've lost all features that made them "smart" in the first place. Look at other consumer technology, Sonos speakers, the Google online games platform you had to buy hardware for, an assortment of other tech devices like CCTV cameras with online access / storage, they shut down regularly, and you can't do anything about it, it's just "gone". I believe one of the original smart thermostat services has already shut down (I can't remember if was under Google or Amazon).
@user-gp9sh6vv8i6 ай бұрын
Very useful, thank you. Energy companies switch your throughout the. I was with a company who kept switching my tariff to Economy 7. They were able to raise my bill by 400% in August, and this was before the 80% increase. The in house display turns from green to red while they do it. Fraud?
@grottybt500611 ай бұрын
I just ignore all communication with them. Blank them if they're outside the house and try addressing me. Just treat them like the new arrivals, like they don't even exist because they shouldn't
@phillipsharpe645911 ай бұрын
Is it true that the electric supplies can turn off your supply by remote control with the new meters?
@jamesbarbour840011 ай бұрын
Yes it is !
@Richard-wm2vi11 ай бұрын
Sorry to be controversial with your "expert" Andy, but I think he is working and writing on behalf of the Gas/Electricity companies. As he is overlooking our human rights (Article 7) The right to a private and family life, home and correspondence.
@robebanks505417 күн бұрын
We have had our old meters for over 20 years and our yearly bills are way lower than people with smart meters.its better on pay as you go
@iamthatiam4444411 ай бұрын
So who's internet are these smart meters hooked up to if they're 3 and 4G ? I don't know much about them yet.
@MrFriskyWhiskey11 ай бұрын
That’s a very good point actually. Who’s internet is it using? Yours! Therefore your energy consumption will actually increase. Their argument fundamentally flawed and would not stack up in a court of law. Even a child could figure out the basic maths. Smart Meters are about BEHAVIOUR CHANGE. Get people anxious and paranoid about ‘saving money’ by ‘saving energy’. It’s all about creating dependency by sucking off the teat of the Nanny State (Grid).
@David-jx4gw11 ай бұрын
They use 3g/4g to send company the data and local wifi between the meter and the little display that comes with smart meter.
@David-jx4gw11 ай бұрын
They have there own sim card in the main meter
@iamthatiam4444411 ай бұрын
@David-jx4gw oh ok. Thanks for that. I'm hoping my unit block doesn't get them. We don't hear much about them here in Australia as yet.
@edc156911 ай бұрын
Yeah they just use cellular signals, honestly I’ve no idea what the gripe is about them, much less visits from the meter reader now, suits me.
@jesss53911 ай бұрын
Legislation is not law, neither are acts and statutes.
@maskedavenger257811 ай бұрын
Legislation is law ,the clue is in the word LEGislation as in the word LEGal which refers to law . Either way if they want to force your compliance they will find a way . All this Freeman of the Land shizzle about acts & statutes spouted on social media is nothing but a load of bullsh💩t .
@10tendogsdonie11 ай бұрын
How can legislation be law ?
@fluxington11 ай бұрын
Of course legislation is law. Next you'll be talking about legal fiction and all that nonsense.
@patbuckley403911 ай бұрын
@@maskedavenger2578 worth looking into. Many have said for a long time that the language is there to confuse and legal is not lawful.
@10tendogsdonie11 ай бұрын
@@fluxingtontroll off, law is lawful leagl is legalese, which is not law, we're on to you,
@Shane_Marsh11 ай бұрын
My parents don't have any Internet or wi fi of any kind. How does a smart meter work in this instance ?
@alexatkin5 ай бұрын
They connect over the mobile network, in some places they have cell towers specifically for meters.
@tonybennett3904Күн бұрын
Fascinating,Andy,some of the comments are bang on.
@mindsetmatters37011 ай бұрын
Thank you for that very useful inforrmation, in particular regarding restraining energy providers from selling personal information.
@gkpartington563411 ай бұрын
I had a smart meter fitted and then another updated one about 18 months later - the fitter told me they will keep getting updated at a cost of around £1300 a pop WE are paying for that, not the suppliers. And it put all the readers out of work. Feckin disgrace.
@gatecrasher19706 ай бұрын
what they did not say is that none of the smart meter companies including utilita energy have no idea how to get them fully functioning and is the reason i left the company as all the new smart meter customers was angry , also left due to massive price hikes for no reason for electric after covid
@allykatharvey6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Very helpful!
@bwghall18 ай бұрын
when they advertised these new smart meter a few years ago. saying how good they are and we would all save money. well I went ahead and asked for one to be fitted. and have not had any problems as far as we know. it`s in the porch well away from us, so what should I look out for. Briddy 85 .
@harry13074711 ай бұрын
Re "expiry dates" on meters. In days of yore, electricity meters were mechanical devices that wore out and lost accuracy. They had to be removed and parts replaced and recalibrated every ten years This does not apply to modern meters which have no moving parts. The ultimate purpose of smart meters is to vary tariffs to make electricity expensive when it's in short supply in our brave new world of renewables . So your tariff might vary hour by hour. So by checking the weather forecast you'll know that on sunny/windy days electricity will be cheap. There also exists the possibility of being paid to use electricity when there is a great excess. (Eg to charge up batteries to be sent back into the grid when there's high demand) Don't laugh, this already happens in Europe. And of course you can be remotely cut off for none payment.
@alexatkin5 ай бұрын
Just because something has no moving parts, doesn't mean it wont lose accuracy. Electronics can actually age a lot faster than mechanical. The smart gas meters also use a battery to power them in order to transmit the reading to the electricity meter, so those need periodically servicing.
@bishopcolenso11 ай бұрын
I wonder whether meters have the 'end of life' date inscribed on the body, a bit like a use by date?
@fluxington11 ай бұрын
It used to be that the two digits after the first letter (i.e. Z99xxxxxxx) indicated the year of manufacture was 99. That meter then has a given expected life which can change if that model is subject to inaccuracies found out in the field (this is why they generally don't have an expiry date on them). Meters have a 25, 20, 15 and 10 year life.
@robtmcL1211 ай бұрын
Like everything ever made, things wear out. Electricity meters need calibrating to ensure their accuracy is within agreed tolerances. The businesses that used to perform that calibration no longer exist. Every meter must be changed once their shelf life has expired. It makes sense to have an accurate tally of your usage as you really wouldn't want to pay for energy you haven't used. New smart meters have the ability to tell if you are fiddling or if the power incoming your home is faulting. They can also have contactors inbuilt to isolate your supply if you default on your bill.
@PeterMaddison248311 ай бұрын
I'm currently renting from a housing association and they've recently had a grant for solar pannels to be installed, which I took the offer up. It's only recently that I discovered that to benefit from my unused electricity being sent to the grid, I need to have a smart meter installed for me to be able to be paid for my unused electricity generated by the solar pannels. I think I'll forego the 16p per KWh they give me as my bills have dropped drastically, compared to what they were before, so NO, I will never be having a smart meter installed.
@edc156911 ай бұрын
yeah your choice, it is handy though for easily seeing how much you are exporting so you know when to switch on the washing machine etc
@mumo941311 ай бұрын
I moved into my new home 5yrs ago( Lincolnshire), it had an analogue ( tick over) type meter. Energy Warehouse changed it with a digital one but, no smart meter! For 2yrs, they've been "offering" to install a smart meter. So, to the chap who wrote the letter, you're wrong & I'm no liar!
@user-hd7we5et5bАй бұрын
What are energy companies? They are brokers that fit and own the meters. The energy provider is The National Grid which is paid for by taxes. If a man or woman obtains a final bill for gas and electricity, pays it to the broker, and then buys and installs their own meters by a professional legal body, there is no legal or lawful requirement to pay an energy 'bill'. The National Grid cannot by law charge an individual man or woman for energy, but they can charge a corporation. If anyone feels that this is dubious, they can create their own public limited company to own the meters. The nation Grid is funded by taxes, why pay for something that is already paid for? 🙏
@christopherhunter341518 күн бұрын
The REAL reason for the introduction of the Smart Meters is actually pretty scary. Inside the Smart Meter, there is a large (and expensive) Contactor. This can be controlled remotely - by the electricity company - and allows them to switch off the supply to your house by remote control! This is Contactor to facilitate the forthcoming "Rolling" Power Cuts. When there's insufficient power to go 'round, the companies will disconnect subscribers to "load shed". You will - of course - be able to pay a Premium Rate, and not get disconnected, but your neighbours will still find that periodically they won't have power. When there's insufficient wind, and it's too dull for the largely useless solar panels to make any power, there won't be enough power for everyone. That's when the Cuts will begin. The French and the Dutch will put up their prices, so the Interconnectors will be too expensive for the power companies to use. This is a result of the insane "Green" and "Net Zero" nonsense that is going to totally bankrupt the UK. This new government has installed the worst possible idiot as Energy Minister (Ed Millibrain), and the people of the UK are going to suffer for the sake of a fake "threat". CO2 has exactly NOTHING to do with global temperatures, and stopping the exploitation of our huge reserves of oil and gas beneath the North Sea is nothing short of criminal stupidity. The first disconnections will start in the forthcoming winter, when it's dark and cold, and there's little or no wind. The "Terms and Conditions" for Smart Meters allow for arbitrary disconnections of supply to customers.....
@austinmorris169311 ай бұрын
and what about the gas meters then do the same rules apply?
@mauricebarnett695111 ай бұрын
Any court order to enter my property that is not covered by insurance, renders the energy company and any man or woman in uniform aids them is personally liable for trespass
@fluxington11 ай бұрын
Insurance has nothing to do with deeming trespass or not. The law determines what trespass is.
@10tendogsdonie11 ай бұрын
Deemed is not law,
@fluxington11 ай бұрын
@@10tendogsdonie Deemed: to consider or judge something in a particular way.
@paulb818611 ай бұрын
A court order is basically a warrant to legally enter a property either by being allowed or forced entry. The choice is yours.
@10tendogsdonie11 ай бұрын
@@paulb8186 no judge will sign a court order for a civil matter, the magistrates are admiastrive, on behalf of the government, remember the gov work for us, not the other way round, god, queen, country, then comes elected officials, rishi was selected,