Smart Watches Without the Spyware

[@intifadayuri]

As a cybersecurity nerd I've always found kinda sad that a lot of IoT devices seem actually useful or interesting but they're (intentionally or not) a hotspot for spyware and security vulnerabilities

[@AJohnSmith]

Made explicitly for this reason. Willing panopticon.

[@stefan0ro]

@Not gonna lie you can wait a little more, i aint clicking it

[@WhosYouG]

Convenience usually means easier for the consumer. (Ex. Less Steps Needed) The inconvenience goes to the the company”s product. Therefore the steps that were taken out for the consumer are now in the hands of the company’s own agendas

[@jchud13]

Damn a pip boy would be really sick hahaha. Idk if it would be as practical to wear on an everyday basis but surely what it did do it would have the potential to do much better

[@SEB1991SEB]

Yeah, I remember about 10 years ago being so excited for the future when all this smart tech was being introduced. But then I learned just privacy invading and dystopian it all is, and I began to view it as if it’s literal poison. Still though, at least in recent years I’ve discovered all the open source projects that people have made, and it’s given me hope that I can have all the tech without the loss of privacy. But if a cool piece of tech has been invented, but it’s not open source yet, then I don’t even view as being fully invented yet tbh.

[@RegularEarthlingEngineer]

Don't worry, we will be sure to keep hardware level trackers just for y'all.

[@kingdededelicious]

oh thanks fbi, I can call you up to play games at my house easier (don't mind the door)

[@ReptilianLepton]

I would expect no less! 🥰

[@ehtresih9540]

I'll turn your leg to spaghetti

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

AHH FBI, a bunch of liars who claim our country hacked your 2016 election....

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

Spying on the citizens of individualistic ideas....same bastards you feds are....by the way you will never catch any Russian Spies....they are everywhere....check your department

[@bigbodge]

its insane how quickly and silently we went from "free, but you pay with your data" to "not free, but you also pay with your data" The shadiness of spyware aside, at least originally you got something out of it, or you'd pay for something but keep your privacy. Now it just exists by default, you pay for the product twice.

[@RandyHanley]

Very well-said!

[@More_Row]

It's sick is what it is.

[@Ultrajamz]

Similar happened with cable tv. First it was pay for no ads…

[@Degenerate76]

You will own nothing and be happy.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

I don't pay for anything

[@AnonymouslyBlack]

Quickly becoming one of my favorite tech youtubers. Not only does your content interest me, and fit my needs, but it is also very informative and entertaining! Another video upload I've enjoyed. Thanks Outlaw, looking forward to more videos.

[@killaship]

Pretty disturbing that there was spyware to begin with. Nothing out of the ordinary, though; just another day in this fucked-up world! :D Ah, yes, data collection, so amazing.

[@intifadayuri]

We're living in the cyberpunk dystopia, just without the fancy neon stuff

[@shallex5744]

@@intifadayuri depends on the area

[@stefan0ro]

@Scarlett Witch 🅥 can yall bots just get fked?

[@NerdyCatCoffeeee]

@@intifadayuri if I'm going to have my data collected, I want the fancy neon stuff

[@killaship]

@Scarlett Witch 🅥 spammer

[@skipinkoreaable]

In case you don't know about it there's an amazing video by a guy who worked for IBM developing a pioneering Linux smartwatch back in the day. Although it didn't take off, a lot of the developments were used in later smartwatches.

[@jacobonline6994]

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[@neuemilch8318]

I got a Huawei Watch and flashed Astroid on it. The process was actually pretty simple and has the advantage that I don't have to install crappy spyware from Huawei. I'm pretty happy the watch is fantastic for what I want from it. So mainly sports and as mp3 player when I run. For people who also do sports and do not want to be distracted or better want to track their progress I can only recommend it.

[@profound369]

How do you flash astroid?

[@neuemilch8318]

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[@neuemilch8318]

You can find the instructions on the website. It's really not a complicated process. Even I got it done, and I'm not the most technically savvy person by far. It basically just amounts to enabling developer options, changing a setting and running a few commands through your terminal. You can even keep Asteroid parallel to the original os if you want.

[@LethalBubbles]

gatekeeping features on the device you payed for with DRM is already a thing. Some of the sensors are just broken without a subscription to fitbit. Others may be censored by region, like Samsung features turning off outside of South Korea.

[@kalgonzo148]

For me, its the G-SHOCK GBD200-1. Classic square g-shock with some basic fitness tracking that displays right on the watch. Sure, you can connect it to an app on your phone, but you don't have to.

[@supra107]

For me it's the GW-M5610U, the fact that it perfectly syncs the time with a radio signal is "smart" enough for me. It tells me the time, it has a few time alerts available, it has a stopwatch, it has a timer, it has world time, it's solar powered, it's shock resistant and water resistant, what more do you want from your watch?

[@kalgonzo148]

@@supra107 Impressive. Very nice choice.

[@supra107]

@@kalgonzo148 The only model that can rival it is the GW-9400 with the sensor. However 1) it's way more expensive and 2) it's way more bulkier. The GW-M5610U is probably the cheapest daily driver that just runs itself.

[@maxscott3349]

@@supra107 That sounds like what I have. It's put up with some serious abuse.

[@supra107]

@@maxscott3349 The model name and the module version is always engraved on the backplate of the watch.

[@cannaroe1213]

I bought both a sealed and an unsealed PineTime last year, and the TLDR is that the software Pine put on (infinitime) pretty much sucks, although it is getting better every few months. There is a lot more development happening however on other OSs for the PineTime, like Wasp-os and the OS from the Zephr watch also runs on PineTime. Personally, given Pine64's pretty good reputation in the opensource / openhardware space, which is a space where many companies just take your cash and run let alone keep supporting software for real products, I think the PineTime is the perfect watch for the privacy-concious to rally around. These watch OS' are small and easy to reason about, and they can even run a python REPL.

[@thepi]

I got a Fitbit after years of refusing to get a 24/7 tracker. It helped me fix my sleep and stuff but now I am pretty sure there is a digital me being sold by Fitbit somewhere

[@un4given830]

PSA: everyone with a garmin watch has a 85%+ chance of being a fed

[@frankthetank484]

Guess I am a fed.

[@ghoulbuster1]

You can tell by the fluorescence

[@marcinzdunek2902]

not only the watch glows in the dark

[@benreed4957]

And a 100% chance of being on strava

[@thatguythatdoesstuff8826]

I'd honestly rock a pip-boy style device

[@nosferatunoir2740]

I agree with the last pip-boy comment. I've had for the last couple of years a mighty need to make my own smart watch, kinda like the ZSWatch. After some months tho, I thought that I'd be better to just go full-on cyberpunk and make a bigger wearable. Maybe something that could fit the entire foremarm, put a keyboard, a linux distro, make it like a tiny pc, maybe something crazier. It'd be fun and I'd get a cool device (and some bragging rights) in the end.

[@Nephitejnf]

I've wanted to put together my own pip-boy with a raspi, still working on figuring out how to aquire the internal hardware to work on it. I do have an idea on how to make the buttons and dials work though, since QMK is pretty customizable.

[@Gerdoch]

I use the open-source app Gadgetbridge with a Fossil Hybrid watch. It's a good compromise (some smart features, notifications, HR tracking, etc - but all data stays on my device, I don't have the closed-source manufacturer app installed, and the watch has no connectivity apart from bluetooth to my phone). It also works with Mi Fit / AmazFit bands, etc.

[@suphuss]

Hit the nail right on the head. What we really need is a Pip-Boy

[@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb]

I have a BangleJS2 smartwatch and love it. I'm surprised you didn't bring that one up.

[@royalcanadianbearforce9841]

Learning about smart watches was terrifying but I love my Gamin Fenix 7 so much :(

[@quietcoast]

I have the pinetime watch and it's great imo but mostly just for notifications and timer. Still "beta" and not in competition with Samsung apple or Google yet for fitness and many other features. Heart rate tracker has been unreliable in my experience.

[@theodis8134]

I loved my pinetime but after about a year of use the wrist strap broke. And it's real pain to get a new one since any in person stores only care about apple watches. I tried to order a replacement strap from Barton Watch bands online and the material was too thick to slot into the groove so I ended up having to sand it down to make it fit. I really wish pine would just sell replacement watch bands. I'd just order a couple sets and I wouldn't have any other complaints with them.

[@quietcoast]

@@theodis8134 I have family who own the Samsung watch and with some experimenting learned that 20 mm watchbands work for the pinetime. This sort of information should be on their website, a mistake on their part. I got a few replacement bands off Amazon. The one that comes with it definitely sucks.

[@singletona082]

The lilygo T-Watch is a esp32 based device with LoRa, Bluetooth, wifi, and gives so much potential but the esp32 is a power hungry thing.

[@Dekarowski25]

That's what makes me want to become good enough in making devices to make my own smart watch.

[@beekeepersjourney8192]

Man, I really enjoyed this video. Please keep making more about things like this.

[@scienceface8884]

The Pipboy has that sweet sweet AM/FM radio that the kids are swing dancing to these days

[@AlexZanderMuro]

if youre looking for a pipboy style watch, garmin has something very similar. they have some pretty cool stuff as far as wearables go i just havent done enough research on them or been able to audit one myself to see whats all going on under the hood.

[@vicstoron]

afaik you don't need to connect it bluetooth to your phone app or anything and you can just transfer the files of your training to a computer and open them with another app etc so issues with spyware don't seem to really exist on it if you just wanna use it for basic stuff like monitoring training/sleeping

[@Jakub_1223]

idk man, im thinking about buying the old school casio watch

[@snap_oversteer]

You've added casio watch to your watch list, feds have added you to their watchlist.

[@bilbobeutlin3405]

You could also buy some chinese fitness tracker from aliexpress that only uses bluetooth and write your own android app to sync the data with your phone. Theres a communication standard for Bluetooth health devices, as long as the device uses it you can do it and protect your privacy. A fair warning tho, bluetooth can be quite frustrating, and please use kotlin instead of java.

[@atis7]

My favorite brand of sport watches are Suunto which directly compete with garmin but dont have unecessary things like wifi and just handles the sport things greatly, though they are pretty expensive since they are hand assembled in Finland, but overall much more secure than the orher brands.

[@mellowmoo6747]

As a powerlifter I can attest that the Apple Watch is pretty accurate at tracking calories while lifting weight, has made bulking and cutting a lot easier

[@latitzouri]

I am absolutely looking for someone, one day, giving the possibility to push WearOs on my Huawei Watch GT Pro 2. I very much like the jewelry aspect of a watch, the women model with or witouth a custom strap gives much character, I had several compliments. I own several normals watches but it's really useful not having to do the math for how much I slept, especially after having only 6-7 hours where I'm a bit hazy. Having notifications is also very basic but is definitely feeling liberating from having my phone in my pocket all the time. I don't like the sound of notifications or the vibrations (which can be too loud when on desk or not enough when you're walking) I'm sure to be alerted when my wrist is shaked. I'm not that hopeful because Huawei had a history of not giving the possibility to unlock the bootloader. But it's just for kicks yknow, I'd like to add more than the 20 apps the Huawei shop disposes. All of my needs are definitely set, it's not that bad (notifs, sleep, steps, heartrate, chrono, alarm, meteo, lots of watchfaces, body temperature even) It have 5-6 days of battery But having other possible shops or a way to import apks would be great nonetheless Have a happy new year full of beauty y'all

[@VeitLehmann]

The ZSWatch looks pretty nice! 4 buttons, round display, I'm curious what the upcoming version will look like! Sadly it looks like it doesn't have a transflective MIP LCD but needs backlight to be visible. I used to wear a Pebble until a year ago, and I don't want to miss full button operation, always-on sunlight-visible screen and several days of battery life. I can live without health/activity tracking, touch screen and things like phone calls on the watch. So last year I replaced my Pebble Steel with a Garmin fenix 6S Pro which comes pretty close. But now I miss the Pebble's open ecosystem, and somehow also its geekiness...

[@tootalldan5702]

garmin vivosmart 4 would be nice without the cloud data thru the Android. Size is small but not readable at my age. Buzzes for "new goal reached" should be blocked too. Nice video.

[@drTERRRORRR]

Pip Boy is the shit! In Fallout universe, the transistor was never invented,so miniature vacuum tubes on mobile info/combat device scare the FEV out of me ;)

[@0000x0000referenced]

due to my job I cant have one during work hours so I jsut use a notebook, hands, and mind to keep track of my bpm, and distance I've walked

[@ducksies]

I have a trusty old g-shock and if any watch is going to replace it on my wrist, it'll have to provide at least half the battery life and durability it does; smart watches may provide utility to people who go out trekking or walking a lot, but my watch doesn't need to be charged (solar ftw) and does one thing, which is telling the time, and does it well. As a UNIX autist, I love tools that do just their job and do it well.

[@willi1978]

I prefer Garmin watches. They are not as smart but can't talk to other services on their own. They work together with an app installed on the phone. It tracks heart rate and sleep. The data is sent to to the app via bluetooth. Display of notifications on the watch work the same but in the other direction (notifications from the phone are displayed on the watch)

[@piereligiodisante]

Actually you can disable most of the proprietary bloatware if not all, just by using adb commands. You can connect adb wifi and give some commands from your computer, for disabling stuff. Also, you can disable most manufacturer apps just by going into the settings, app info, and tapping disable. Problem is that those apps are often needed to get good tracking

[@Markski]

I've been using a very basic xiaomi watch w/o connecting it to anything. It's locked down as hell, but it's cheap and lets me see all I need to see without having to be connected to any phone or network. I only have to connect it to a device every other month for it to sync the time, in which I just use some e-waste android tablet I have laying around that's never connected to my network either. It's a really stupid set-up, but it works

[@KuiperShaina]

Dude, if you want a good tablet/laptop device, Microsoft Surface Pro series is awesome. I bought a used Surface Pro 7 last year for $600, and the minute I got it, I nuked Windows 11, and threw Arch on it. The only things that don't work, is battery optimization, the stylus, and the webcam. All things I couldn't care less about (I'm lying, I want the stylus). There's even a github repo for linux-surface kernal, and all that good stuff. Honestly, the only issue I've had was dumb shit with Pacman not being able to download some packages sometimes. Oh, and the keyring for the surface kernal gets fucky every now and then, and needs to be manually updated. For real though, a tablet with an i7, 16gb of ram, and a 4k HDR display? Yeah that's pretty dang decent. The only thing that bugs me is soldered SSD. But it's still pretty whatever, since I use the thing for diagnostics/reading schematics/word processing.

[@doctorzm.d.809]

I got the fossil hr hybrid watch I feel it's a compelling product. Battery last for about a month it is a traditional watch with hands but the face is eink and has productivity functions of a smart watch.

[@Break.]

I just recently bricked my watch (for a dumb reason that I wont get into lol) while trying to root it and I gotta agree that there's less consequence than rooting phones, I can buy a replacement watch for like $60 online

[@shadow.banned]

Just thinking about the tracking chips people used to fearmonger over. What were they called? I forgot...

[@nebulaeandstars]

while normally I'd rather not share my data with Google, I think in this case it's worth it. It's worse than the ideal open-source solution, but it's still better than nothing I can host my own email, so there's no reason to allow spyware to read it. I can host my own NAS, so there's no reason to let companies mess with my files. This is different, as I can't do any of it myself. Google's ML-based heartrate monitoring and sleep tracking is really good, and there's no open source alternative that even comes close yet. If sharing my data is part of the cost of doing business, I think it's worth the price. We're a bit spoiled in that we have Free software for almost everything under the sun, but this is one area where we still really just have to pay.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

The only reason I'd want a smart watch is so I could modify it into looking like the pause menu from Goldeneye 007.

[@ericherrero3212]

Thanks for pointing out the pine time. I'll try it out

[@baller_lain]

Honestly Garmin is the way to go for a no bloat fitness tracker (it's less "smart" than an apple watch or others but why would you check messages on a watch), no issues with the forerunner 965, tells me everything I need and tracks my sleep extremely thoroughly, with an insane battery life. Yeah you pay through the ass but it's worth it imo, you get a solid watch that sure does tell time as well as everything else (still day to day I wear an f-84w)

[@NeverToBeSeenAgain]

I've been eyeing esp32 based watches lately.

[@tiagoreis5390]

There is also bangle js2. I own one and its very good for my daily tasks.

[@ExaoSS]

old trusty Casio will do for me. I don't need to measure progress, i can feel it.

[@jan_harald]

tbh rooting phones is not HARD, it's just the fact you HAVE to erase ALL the data on the device and you MIGHT screw it up due to even something as simple as a bit dodgy cable that happens to disconnect in the middle of it all with wearables though...fair at that, having to open them up is certainly WAY more daunting, and ruining the water-proofness you wouldn't know until it was too late (and would be a major bummer, imho)

[@willpaxman5236]

I already own a pinetime and its really great

[@MysticMylesZ]

9:25 I don't think you can walk into the grocery store and stuff with that 🤣

[@yohan2024]

As some have already said, i think the best choice to make here is to use a non-LTE watch with the GadgetBridge app, ensuring all your data stay on your phone.

[@sam-3agl3]

Thank you for sharing, keep up the great content!

[@wiktorrumocki8697]

I got a garmin fenix 7 solar and I cant image using other smartwatch. The fact that there are offline maps and the watch counts how many reps have you done is a gamechanger for me.

[@Hublium]

Mainstream watch with custom ROM would probably be my choice, though I am not in the market for a smartwatch right now. When I got my phone, I bought a used one that was already flashed with LineageOS, it was only like €20 over market price, so certainly worth it.

[@dylan.t180]

I didn’t get a tablet until I won one a few years back and it’s super handy. Never thought I would’ve used one until I was literally handed one for free

[@XM177ColtCommando]

Still gonna be using my old hand-wound mechanicals for the foreseeable future.

[@claudiameier666]

id love a pip boy. im surprised noones working on something like that

[@johanngambolputty5351]

I bought a pinetime and a bangle.js 2, but haven't played with them yet. I was planning to put waspos on the pinetime so that its more like the bangle and I don't have to reflash everytime I want to make a modification. They will serve as sleep tracker and I also might put one on each hand and try to stream position for a really bad kinect type thing in godot. I will probably have to get a more standard watch and put asteroidsOS for the my other use case, music when running, without having to take my whole phone with me, though I could just get a non wrist mounted mp3 player. Also, once its got something more android/linux based, should be able to adb or maybe even ssh into it, so that rather than just sending scripts to a slow interpreter, maybe you can upload optimised binaries?

[@MrDomek98]

The bandai Vital Bracelet range is basic enough to not be spyware

[@cmikhail7289]

I just assume mental outlaw will start going into art when I watched the first few seconds muted. Damn

[@AaronHuffmanPerson]

Just buy a used Pebble, problem solved. Dug out my old pebble today and it's working as well as day 1 considering speed and functionality.

[@zEw0]

I would say that Apple devices are usually still more privacy-friendly OUT OF THE BOX at least compared to google devices.

[@CyberWolf755]

I'd just get a classic G-shock. Nice and rugged

[@paulsturm1998]

been using a huawei watch (2015) w/ asteroid OS (as shown from abt 5:22, not actually a custom rom btw!) since about year, i really like it although of course it does not have the features the original wearOS had. connecting to it also was never a problem, as with the charging cable there is the whole USB interface available. I do not use it for fitness or sleep tracking, so i can't report on the usability of it in that area.

[@Ralphunreal]

Dam even smart watches have spyware? I had no idea lol...

[@howtomundane3109]

Almost any IoT-device has them trackers & add that information to your digital footprint.

[@TheIJoystick]

Most of the trackers are horrible it you're serious about counting your calories. The moment sweat gets in between your skin and the sensor it becomes very inaccurate. If you're looking for something that's decent (asides from security risks) I hear great things about aura rings but have never tried them myself. I prefer the traditional way of going about this. Count your calorie intake, keep it at a set level, and watch your weight over time. If your weight increases, you're eating more than your maintenance calories.

[@dixztube]

That gold smart watch is nice tho.

[@kaalsemulzii1920]

A PIP boy would be thes best, but with opensource hardware and software.

[@AfroJd]

Commenting for algorithm boost :)

[@divyamthakur]

protip: if you have a mi band, you can use many if the available 3rd party syncing apps to view your health data and cut off Xiaomi's tracking completely. You can also unlock some extra functionalities via the 3rd party apps!!

[@chaoswolf9452]

Iv been keeping a eye on the Lenovo y700 tablet, rn it is only available in China and I don't want to deal with a Chinese rom with no support but hopefully they bring it or make one similar to it to the us soon

[@rkjj.]

Heavy lifting sessions actually don't burn that much calories

[@assymptoad4989]

Ghost in the shell is open sourse?

[@IsaacMcMillan-u7i]

Same, I'd go with a pip boy instead of a watch

[@OneBorko]

Is it possible to use bugjagger or similar app to connect to the phone? That's how I played Geometry Dash and Clash Royal on the Galaxy Watch5 Pro

[@AlexSmith-jj9ul]

Do you use ffmpeg for editing? If you do could you make a more in depth guide to ffmpeg?

[@durandus676]

I just want the good old height and weight based mile trackers and calorie estimators that didn’t need an app back. Or have GPS

[@HugoMskn]

The pinetime is so cool, I've been using for the past two years and it so the job and without Spyware

[@mskiptr]

Check if it's supported by Gadgetbridge already. If it is, that's probably a way to neutralize some of the spyware

[@HugoMskn]

@@mskiptr It is, and I'm already using gadget bridge

[@mskiptr]

@@HugoMskn Huh, it seems I've replied to a different comment then I thought I did. Sorry for the noise and thanks for your positivity!

[@HugoMskn]

@@mskiptr np aha

[@lililililililili8667]

kinda wanna get that pavlok smart watch with the little tazer thing in it to wake me up in the morning

[@billfarley9015]

An alarm clock would be a lot cheaper.

[@lililililililili8667]

@@billfarley9015 Sometimes if my sleep cycle gets thrown off from a day off work I won't wake up from 3 phone alarms that are pretty loud and a backup desktop alarm IDK wtf is wrong with me. I have a screamin eagle 220db trucker alarm but it's inconvenient to use and so loud the neighbors can hear it. It would be cool if the zapper thing on the pavlok could be used for phone notifications too because when I'm operating machinery at work the noise and vibration makes me miss calls and texts sometimes.

[@betochiwas]

My watch just tell the time, has an alarm and a countdown timer, the battery has lasted me years I dont think that I have to worry about spyware

[@Henk717]

I needed one to track my heartrate during my rehabilitation walks, anything under $100 spies the crap out of you, can only be activated after a mandatory online sync and can't be setup offline at all. And mandatory accounts are also insanely common that must be used on the apps you need to use for the activation pairing. Absolutely disgusting stuff. I did find suitable watches that didn't spy on me, but those all had bad reviews on how terrible the heartrate monitor was. In the end I found a phone app that could do the same trough the camera, which works for me and now my privacy is intact.

[@jirt36]

How about a Xiaomi miband 7 bootloaded? Its pretty easy to do it

[@bokexd3173]

Can the iPad run Windows software though? No.

[@dsaints2344]

Or in another category, Hybrid watches are also a good option...

[@velkryn836]

What about gshocks? some high end ghsocks are smart watches but I'm not sure if it spies

[@itznukeey]

Tbh I don"t see any usecase for iPad when I can get Macbook for the same price ...

[@r.b.ratieta6111]

I was thinking the same thing about a DIY smartwear device. Why limit yourself to a watch when you could have a small forearm tablet? If I had that level of hardware modding capability (hoping to teach myself eventually), I would make it so the screen was on the underside of the forearm because that seems more natural to me for typing (although I'm sure people would have different preferences). If your hardware and software skills are up to par, you could basically make your own Flipper Zero 😉. Mine would definitely have a series of switches (likely dip switches) to turn off internet, bluetooth and the like so people couldn't physically track it without my knowledge. You've got me thinking again. Maybe that'll be my project for 2023.

[@Cha0sNicr0]

I was checking AsteroidOS just the other day, but the compatible hardware options are quite old. What keeps me from replacing my dumb watch is battery life. I don't want to drain 20x idle power on a device that will only be used as a timekeeper most of the day and can't be charged overnight if you want sleep-tracking. One of the models from AsteroidOS got me an idea though. Since the screen is in my opinion the least important qualifier on a utility-device, why not use epaper with physical clock-hands. It would make for a free AOD and potentially allow for some low power cpu states, one would just need controls to park the hands when using the touchscreen. What would you need color and definition for, watching videos on that mini-display?

[@fangblade360]

Yup. Watches are awesome for fitness.

[@howtomundane3109]

Usually I do some Push-ups & run a mile a day, but whatever you do to keep fit, I don't judge you bro.

[@Gredddfe]

Not sure what you mean by "Which one is best for you" when every single product mentioned either has spyware, limited functionality to the point of being useless, or heavy tech knowledge requirement.

[@exceldior]

Have you heard of the ttgo t watch

[@shiruvaaa]

Pip-boy? How about an Omnitrix? >:)

[@v0xl]

i have a freaking chinese huawei watch. The app literally regularly reminds you that they're tracking you.

[@Jonathan-td7dv]

LOL

[@Hypnotically_Caucasian]

It forces you to use Chairman Jing Jing Ping as your background wallpaper at all times or your social credit score will go down

[@OriginalCatfish42]

My watch tells the time AND the day of the month, also its gold so swag. Don't need to count my steps.

[@viktor133100]

Let us know when the Pip-boys are for sale.

[@riddlay2733]

It's sound more interesting to build it from scratch but more time consuming, and that's the big problem... I mean, i just wanna send texts and see the hour not to start a final project to get a PhD on hardware construction idk...

[@PaulSpades]

I was hoping other manufacturers go for e-ink displays like the old pebble watches, or at least low res and power oleds but there's basically nothing on the market that i can see. Some smartwatch features would be nice, but i'm not charging the thing every day and i don't want an android computer on my wrist. Casio could be the best company to actually make good, modern watches with smart features, but they're still dragging their feet.

[@1chaplain]

Imagine using a digital watch. - This message has been from the analog watch gang