The Bootstrap Paradox

[@stevewiles7132]

The instant time travel is discovered, it will always have existed.

[@andygeibe]

So...when Mr. Scott writes his formula

[@Loltroll8]

Andy Geibe just when he thinks about it after fully comprehend

[@ethanmaruyama1149]

Mindfucked

[@edward-ft3qm]

So realistically it’s never gonna be invented unless the things we do are very insignificant.

[@stevewiles7132]

@@edward-ft3qm Maybe history as we know it, happened because of time travel

For me, Bootstrap Paradox is an equivalent of this question: Where is the starting point of a circle?

[@gregoryfenn1462]

Halil Mencütekin the difference being that there is no “forward” direction around a circle. Counterclockwise and clockwise rotation are just as “correct”. But with time, forward has a definite meaning: it’s the direction in which causes precede effects.

@@gregoryfenn1462 There is no forward for observers outside. But if you are stuck in one way motion on a circular path there exists a forward direction for you. Even with time, forward has a relative meaning. It is the direction physical events that we can observe and live through can occur. İf it was possible for some particles the next moment in time to be a different point in time than ours, such circular paths in time might be possible. That path would be a infinite straight path for any traveller on it, but a circular path for outside observers.

[@YuriDokiDoki]

Me: *Professor X Thinking Meme*

[@melchid8448]

Vay böyle yerlerde Türk görmek hep iyi oluyor.

[@SpinningTurtle66]

The point the circle was first drawn from.

[@juba4821]

Charlotte: You don't talk to your mother that way. Elizabeth: You don't talk to your mother that way.

[@cm-lr1jx]

BAHAHSHA

[@shivamtiwari6873]

Charlotte : you don't talk.. Elizabeth :

[@ShaikhMohsinIqbal]

Best one

[@alielzein5209]

You've got 333 likes and that's scary

[@ECO_rx]

But ... elli can't speak

[@Carl-LaFong1618]

I watch this video every 100 years or so. Always amazes me.

[@Jwarrior123]

😂😂😂 And I read your comment everytime you post it

[@oliviaguyong1875]

🧐🧐🧐

[@streamofconsciousness5826]

@@Jwarrior123 Is your previous "like" still there? there is a paradox, you can only leave one unless you change accounts. I am sure you have no time to be opening new KZbin accounts every 100 years.

[@NickolasSeitz]

​@@streamofconsciousness5826Google closes their account after a period of inactivity. It is a new account each time.

[@greylatern]

It's not a paradox. They key even is the book. Anything goes so long as nothing changes the book showing up at the door one day. The timeline and why the book was delivered can change infinitely so long as the book is delivered. Nothing can happen that would prevent the book from being delivered.

[@RossJukesPhotography]

There is a simpler problem... if time travel ever exists, at any point, even millions of years in the future, then it already exists... if (theoretically) you can travel to any point in time...

[@narcisochavez9392]

Superpureeliteful this seemingly means that time travel has always existed which means any point could have been time traveled to and prevented, even if its by one second, because I am not the time traveler, i do not know what was meant to be, for all we know jfk died becuase a time traveler wanted it that way

[@JustinBarth37]

If time travel exists and everything changed creates a new branch timeline, why would time travel be illegal. Anything you change, changes the timeline and because of that change the person is now in a second timeline and if they attempt to go back to the future it will be the future of that timeline. Not the one they left.This means traveling back in time to change the past won't change outcomes that have already happened in your own. There is no point in going back and saving JFK. If you did, you create a new branch and you will have to stay in that branch now.

[@xAo2xSmurf]

That's assuming the all given points in time exist at once in any fashion.

[@ermiasfentaye5033]

I don't believe time travel actually exists. because if it does some stupids will let us know by coming from the future.

[@christopherkidwell9817]

@@JustinBarth37 Not necessarily. That assumes that the 'branch' cannot be made the 'actual' by the machine in question, i.e. that the universe is not a 'one single path' universe where if something big changes due to time travel, the universe will take that into account and make it so that X change was always made.

[@np8139]

Building a time machine must be stressful because that scientist looks like he aged 40 years in just 10.

[@TraceguyRune]

Well, as we've seen in Back To The Future, the time machine is powered by plutonium. That stuff is radioactive, and would definitely have some side effects that may include rapid aging

[@danielolaru1419]

@@TraceguyRune ah yes cause science is based on a pop-fiction movie from multiple decades ago

[@yashkanojia6744]

Naah he just didn't shave

[@boss7285]

Haha

[@ecogreen123]

wouldn't expect any less from making the greatest invention humanity ever has and ever will create.

[@worldsendace]

Dark is a series that has a dozen of them. The whole series is one.

[@adhnanabdulla1860]

Yaaa

[@FirozzzzVlogs]

Just finished

[@mrpoteto26]

and you just spoiled the whole series

[@pratiklomte]

Season 3 incoming!

[@MohiyuddinShaikh]

Cannot wait for the 27th 😍

[@saiyansomething73]

The real trick in time travel is that you're not only traveling to a point in time but space as well. You have to materialize at a particular point on a spinning ball that is orbiting a star that is part of a rotating spiral galaxy which is drifting in an expanding universe. You better be damn good at math.

[@Captain-Cardboard]

This is true, from a Newtonian perspective. But in the context of General Relativity, spacetime is a combined, four-dimensional continuum in which events take place. Maybe by travelling in time we could move to the appropriate spatial location, too.

[@DonaldTubbs]

Ala *Jumper* I just assumed that Proprioception is relative to the nearest gravity well.

[@zwenkwiel816]

I think if we could travel trough space and time instantly that kind of stuff would be trivial. Heck send a drone if you're not sure where the earth is at that time....

[@lenandov]

Isn't that handled by the VGL?

[@Midnighter1886]

There are no fixed point in the universe. This will be a suicide mission.

[@Akeboun]

In an alternate timeline some guy dedicated his life to find how to make a time machine, documenting it as he went. Eventually finding out how to do it, he wrote it down in a book, and went back in time, giving it to himself, allowing him to do it much faster and without trial and error. This would create another timeline, starting the endless paradox. What I'm saying is the time machine came first.

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

It wouldn't let you do it much faster without trial and error... here is the funny thing people forget. Resources and you need to verify the book is real... which means trial and error testing. If you give yourself money or resources... you get thrown in jail. In other words you can't speed things up.

[@alonelyperson6031]

@@Buglin_Burger7878 You certainly can. Theres a reason why experiments in school is much faster than trying to invent thos things.

[@Daniel_Jones]

But figuring out time travel was only possible with the book which was mysteriously give to you

[@Akeboun]

@@Daniel_Jones Thats why I said alternate Universe, because when someone time travels it makes a different alternate reality, not affecting the original timeline. In this alternate timeline there was no book, a man dedicated his life to figure out how to make it, and finding the right way to do it he wrote a book about it, going back in time and setting it on the doorstep, there creating the alternate timeline but doing that action. And ever since creating the parodox.

[@ltsarco8053]

Thank you man, this video has been bugging me because they don’t understand that time travel is just jumping realities/universes

[@gillonk]

Is he purposely supposed to look like Rick from Rick and Morty?

[@ilovebetteporter]

kj no,Doc from Back to the future. Even though they look alike.

[@pvtfg4]

@@ilovebetteporter Because Rick's look is based on BTTF

[@VinceLoft]

That’s what I was thinkjng

[@anishnehete]

Maybe

[@TheElement2518]

Specifically scrolled for this comment

[@abcabcq313]

I’d go back to 2009 and buy cheap bitcoins

[@dababy7611]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpyucnuopKeHqqM

[@thatguy7155]

@A K i actually found out thid paradox myself when i was a kid If i could go back in time maybe i should have made a video about this But again Time cannot be changed Unless were talking multiversal travel

[@daenyboy8685]

I‘d go back to 1998 and prevent me from happening

[@rxonmymind8362]

What about Apple shares, Microsoft shares, Tesla?...

[@thatguy7155]

@@rxonmymind8362 Ah yes an additional content in the package

[@The8BitGuy]

One way to account for it is to assume the original set of events were more complex, but have been refined to a simpler loop after many iterations. For example, maybe I create the Time Machine in my old age, from my own ideas. But the. Give the book to my younger self so that I’ll be able to make use of the Time Machine in my younger years. But then as the loop continues, the original source of the book is lost.

[@swedishpsychopath8795]

Did you smoke your socks? This "paradox" is exactly what you'd expect to happen and is a perfectly plausible solution to why Shakespeares work could exist. And then there is the other solution that Shakespeare actually existed and wrote the books. BTW: my IQ is 157 so this is super easy for me to understand but I can see why you would struggle.

[@fintanbochra]

@@swedishpsychopath8795 - ☝️🤓

[@_-JonDoe-_]

⁠@@swedishpsychopath8795My IQ is 158 and what you said is bullshit.

[@farzamimran3960]

@@swedishpsychopath8795 that is so dumb of u to say sure u can be blessed but flexing it makes u look stupid also his question was about the book not shakespeare and its a valid question

[@collinscold]

​@@swedishpsychopath8795R/Iamverysmart

[@tannerearth0396]

Time travel either always has existed or never has and never will.

[@nuv2987]

Never thought about it that way.

[@Amatsu2077]

More like always has or always will imo

[@wwerules000]

It doesn't exist till its invented, then only the person using it would know the changes to the time line, that's based on back to the future, you can change events if your not careful but if you just go back to observe and not do anythink else, would it change time, you would know you traveled but once you get back to the future who would believe you.

[@c.m.6487]

It never will exist. The fact is a time traveller changing anything significant would be obvious by historical standards. It would be a stranger that nobody knows doing something drastic and seemingly inappropriate and then disappearing. Every major historical figure lived decades of life in their era. The only candidates for time travellers would be like assassins, but even most of those we have historical background of their childhoods, education, etc.

[@andrebrandao3638]

Curtis Molina one could argue that those assassins were framed because law enforcement weren’t able to find a completely guilty assassin all the while being pressed by their higher ups to find the one responsible.

[@stelonkangabam4567]

What we know is a drop, what we don't know is an ocean.

[@chitrikart2328]

What??

[@robincaiye]

Stupid Human it's from the show "Dark"

[@chitrikart2328]

@@robincaiye what and why did you call me stupid😡

[@stevanusgeraldopakpahan4582]

@@chitrikart2328 are you a dumbass or something? He called you stupid because your name is LITERALLY "STUPID HUMAN"

[@robincaiye]

Stupid Human Omg- I love you 😂😂

[@pathussi3294]

Have you heard of Master Zhuang’s paradox? ‘I dreamt I was a butterfly. Now I’ve woken up and I no longer know if I’m a person who dreamed he’s a butterfly or if I’m a butterfly who’s dreaming it’s a person.

[@alexeecs]

What does that have to do with this video?

[@Iz1003]

what ive thought this up myself but i didnt know it had a name😳😳

[@ivangarnica5811]

Dark

[@ahmedezat1353]

This isn't paradox assuming we all real

[@kemalistpatriot5228]

My 2 brain cells are not good enough to understand what you have said.

[@BigJeremyBeyer]

This happened in Stargate SG1. General Hammond gave Major Carter a folded note to put in her jacket before she stepped into the gate. On the other side, they were in the past. One of the soldiers who arrested them was Lt Hammond, who recognized the note as being in his own handwriting, and helped them because of it. He then held on to the note for 30 years until he was a General, when he gave it to Major Carter. So who wrote the note, and when?

[@mcfixer9503]

he loses the note at some point in the 30 years and rewrites it

[@aarondent6557]

@@mcfixer9503 so where did the original note come from? Even if he lost it and rewrote it, then who wrote the original? I still has to exist. If younger him always gets a rewritten one that’s going to keep getting rewritten, then is the original one the rewritten one? If so the the rewritten is always the original at the same time. If not then again where is original and who wrote it?

[@aarondent6557]

@@mcfixer9503 I believe the universe is not smart of enough to compute this paradox, so I’ve always believed that multiverse is the only way you could time travel without the universe breaking and malfunctioning. This would allow the original writer of the letter to always be the person who wrote it with out the universe creating a paradox and possibly just crashing like damn video game. Or you could use the Time Machine that only lets you go back as far as when it was first turned on. Thus making that paradox impossible.

[@tanelviil9149]

at 1:15 No this is also known as creating pointless nonsensical " WHAT IF " scenarios that never will, or have happened. This Is the BS modern day physicist spend their time with? Bro do something real not imaginary nonsense

[@lorenzovonmatterhorn3798]

1% of the comments: Actually commenting about the video. 99% of the comments: *DARK*

[@Moshographeroriginal]

.1% talking about 12 Monkeys tv show.

[@ziielu]

Because autor of the video made time machine look like one from the dark...

[@ziielu]

Aka youtube recommended

[@tachiiderp]

algorism at its finest

[@jaydenbuchanan8083]

I came from 12th doctor

[@suriyakalki3311]

"wait, i am william shakespeare?" "Always have been"

[@theinfernus9912]

Hahahahahahahahah

[@AppleOfThineEye]

Okay, now THAT is fucking funny.

[@TatvaToday]

😂😂

[@alexeecs]

Have you heard of the egg?

[@Kat-vo7ze]

ha

[@shakumyn]

The solution is: we should think about time not as a straight line of cause-and-effect, but rather a big ball of wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey stuff.

[@albie.vo__]

So true

[@CinemaDemocratica]

Don't you mean "The Whole Sort of General Mishmash"? (...Or is that too obscure?)

[@Wild_Bill57]

Actually if you read my other reply, you’ll see that basically I’m saying the same thing.

[@travissmith2211]

Alonzy!

[@tassomastorakis3002]

For some reason i like to think about this stuff. First i would recomend you watch "Dark" on netflix. Their theory about time there is: Its all preset loops, you have no real free will and thats how it works. But i wouldnt call it a paradox. For me it isnt because we dont know how the time machine or time works. As we learn in life there cant be something out of nothing. Which means there had to be something thats here forever. Try to imagine something that had no beginning. We can imagine for ourself to live forever. Our brain can imagine how we just go on and on and on. But something to be there already with no begining is hard to imagine. If you manage to figure out how time or time travel works you can answer the question in this video. For me i have an idea how this paradox can be explained. But its just my personal theory.

[@DerBingle1]

It's a constant now. Two perfect mirrors facing each other, perfectly aligned, their reflections of nothing going on for ever. That's what time is.

[@oliveruschmann2644]

Beautifully said.

[@zulqernein]

pepeg

[@Big_Sloppa]

Lulwut 🤪 You can't reflect nothing, mirrors reflect light, where the light comes from?

[@3n3j0t4]

bro said a whole load of nothing

[@tanelviil9149]

at 1:15 No this is also known as creating pointless nonsensical " WHAT IF " scenarios that never will, or have happened. This Is the BS modern day physicist spend their time with? Bro do something real not imaginary nonsense

[@no_one8224]

Anyone got this as recommend after completing the "DARK" series.

[@kiranmcbanana6350]

Me hahahaha

[@mabrurchowdhury]

Here

[@AR-xu6pp]

Same

[@K002-t4h]

Same. Funny how the video was posted 8 days after season 1 was aired

[@ahsanarshad918]

Hell yeah

[@thecollector427]

This is how H. G. Tanhaus wrote his book: he didn't.

[@JeGab]

In the show he did wrote the book as a theory for the time machine blueprint given by Claudia. After the book is published starts time traveling

[@Ryan-bd3ue]

SPOILER: Im pretty sure the book doesn’t exist in the origin world.

[@renflare]

"The end is the beginning and the beginning is the end" Anyone here after watching Dark?

[@mathiasfelipe5350]

Masterpiece!

[@gerardgmz]

Me!

[@pawanjotsinghbedi732]

That's how the world is created

[@abhinand5130]

I'm pretty sure the maker of this video is too.....He got the God Particle time travel on point😂

[@ArySnyder]

@MasterOnion North An emotional entanglement! Love it.

[@lomaudit9674]

My thoughts is IF time travel is done, it will allow us to go back only in some sport of "spectator mode" where we can see and witness, but not affect events. Just as if we were watching it on a tv.

[@mikebuglione32]

That’s why “aliens” never make contact with us. Just seem to observe. Bc they aren’t from another world, they are from the future. In 200-300 years time travel will be easier than interstellar travel. Technology just hasn’t been discovered yet.

[@streamofconsciousness5826]

why would there be any restrictions, you are Matter existing in that space and time, for you to be frozen at a spawn point as a spectator make this a simulation, which is possible and time travel is not because there is no past.

[@heerasagar8327]

@lomaudit9674 Yes {novikov self consistency principle} : We cannot change anything in past universe will self consistently not allow us to do it or reframe it in somehow that scenario only

[@icedqq]

@@heerasagar8327 doesnt self consistency mean that if you time travel, you're going to end up setting into motion the events that already happened? like block time.

[@PsyneX]

Who created Johnny B Goode? Marty Mcfly or Chuck Berry?

[@kidzvidz3262]

I think it was both, just creating an alternate timeline. (Spoilers) So when Chuck Berry had made the song by himself, then Marty heard it. Traveled back in time and sung it, After that Chuck Berry recreated Marty's song, which basically deleted the first timeline and replaced it with the one where Marty Mcfly had made the song, meaning that for everyone else. Marty made the song. But to Doc amd Marty... It was Chuck Berry who made the song, and in my opinion also means Chuck Berry actually created he song.

[@PMLT3400]

@Huma17 👍. Ok how many episodes in the first season?

[@ZigZagFilms]

@@PMLT3400 He's referring to the 2009 reboot, not the series.

[@billtree52]

Yes

[@beetrootmckinnley3486]

@Huma17 What about when Scotty gives someone the recipe for transparent aluminum in ST IV!

[@danielwhite3705]

I couldn’t have been the only one to think, “ just go back in time, not put the book on your doorstep, but rather wait to see who drops the book off”

[@alimuhammad3686]

well then everything happens differently and you are forced to go back and leave the book so if you wait you will just witness another version of yourself leaving the book.

[@SPFLDAngler]

@@alimuhammad3686 Physics will not allow two of you to exist at the same time so that won't work. You can't be in two places at once so you wouldn't see yourself doing anything, one of them is you and the other is not you.

[@ace3han]

Then the loop is broken and there would be no paradox

[@janx2k1]

@@SPFLDAngler that doesn't make any sense at all especially when talking about time travel.

[@Jan_Koopman]

@@SPFLDAngler, don't quantum mechanics actualpy allow that exact thing?

[@thatonedudebutwho9919]

A old man in a blue police box told me to Google it

[@adcamper92]

thatonedude But who? You too mate?

[@clamoresingingmusic2144]

Same

[@leerabhi]

thatonedude But who? Same

[@graves3506]

SAME!

[@qwertyuiopasdfghjkl8407]

Yup

[@shanepye7078]

There is always a primer event that crates the bootstrap paradox. It’s possible that time travel will always leave artifacts of one kind or another.

[@exeledusprince9165]

I think theres an example of this paradox in the very famous video game "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time" During the game, the main character, Link, finds a man powering a windmill who is enraged that someone in the past played a song that caused the windmill to malfunction, and teaches link the song. Turns out, when link returns to the past, he needs to then play the song, causing the windmill to malfunction, enraging the man, and causing him to teach link the song in the future.

[@Joel-hx6dn]

Song of storms

[@exeledusprince9165]

@@Joel-hx6dn Yup!

[@michaelweiske702]

In Phantom hourglass, I believe, link can take an urn from someone in the present, travel to the distant past, and give that urn to that someone's ancestor. The urn is infinitely old and yet has no origin.

[@pussinboots9983]

I never thought that was actually a paradox.

[@R3BEL-1]

Not a paradox, Link created an alternate verse where he replaced the original executor of the song.

[@cirei4682]

*The comments section* 49%: Dr. Who comments 49%: Dark Season 2 comments 2%: *Confused people like me who does not have any idea what those two shows are.* Edit: What a relief! There are Steins;Gate comments as well!

[@MrSasyB]

This actually helped me understand kingdom hearts' time travel

[@marmikemp3767]

2%

[@MrSasyB]

@@marmikemp3767 milk?

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

Stein's Gate was awesome...... kinda sad watching the whole unchangeable loop section near the end but man what a good show lol

[@bootleghungarian2890]

Bruh as soon as i start watching Back to the Future 3 this pops up in my feed,

[@sahilalam_]

The series "dark" Are filled with these so known bootstrap paradox

[@oceanpacific3841]

Best show I've ever seen

[@ritzgamo]

I came here because of Dark haha. I love the series I can't get over it..

[@sahilalam_]

@@ritzgamo same here lol

[@kiloxman117]

I’m here because of that too 😂👌🏼 guessing everyone else is still mind blown 🤯

[@timothyhazelo2039]

Love this show!!!

[@billvojtech5686]

Traveling back in time will CREATE an alternate universe. Each time you travel back, you create a new alternate universe.

[@devguliani]

You and I are perfect for each other never believe anything else

[@CarlyBarley333]

HOW DARE YOU

[@mikepineda8742]

Im still hurt

[@caretakerrr123]

im shaking and crying rn

[@stelonkangabam4567]

What a wonderful world

[@AR-xu6pp]

Der Anfang ist das Ende und das Ende ist der Anfang

[@tomthefox8909]

"The question is not where but when?"

[@LEGEND-ob7ur]

No but which world

[@chayanka_kaushik]

How*

[@bhagyeshlokhande5246]

@simp hunter mikkel*

[@RaduRadonys]

Is that a back to the future quote?

[@sedataksu5388]

Another problem with time travel is location. Since the world is moving, when you go back or future, you need to calculate exact position of the world, means you need a orgin in whole universe.

[@alpha-omega2362]

you must be real fun at parties....or maybe I should say were...since parties have been cancelled for the foreseeable future....so maybe we should go back in time and have our parties.....

[@Vapor817]

you just need to set the earth as your reference point. there is no one center of the universe

[@Rubick471]

@@Vapor817 I think you missed the OP's point. And it will not be as simple as "setting Earth as the reference point". Earth will be in a completely different spot in spacetime, so if you time travel either to the past or future (assuming it keeps you in the same spot at least in space), you will very likely appear in the middle of a vacuum of space. You would need to know the exact location of Earth in spacetime in order to control for that outcome. This is, unless of course travelling through time allows you to travel in "spacetime" at once.

[@Vapor817]

@@Rubick471 as far as i can tell, time travel is still a sci fi concept so i can safely assume in this imaginary world where time travel definitely exists that the time machine moves through spacetime, and that it will be moving on the exact same path as earth. maybe throw in some technobabble about it being tied to earth's gravity or whatever

[@kalliboymusic]

When you travel in the future, yourself from the present, which becomes the past, goes to the same you as the future You can't replicate your version of the present and goes with your version of the future (And yes, almost all sci-fi movies that works on space travel are wrong and who cares? It's sci-fi lol)

[@dbloyd2]

I can travel into the future. I go to bed and when I wake up, I am one day in the future.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Are you sure it is you that wake up?

[@NotAlegre]

People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.

[@obliviousvr6961]

“Time isn’t made of lines, it’s made of circles. That’s why clocks are round.” -The greatest mind ever

[@karlsnyder1226]

Yeah, I’ve seen this bit before. You said that sentence got away from you.

[@elijahsulentic9410]

Piemations

[@juxe411]

Karl Marx it got away from me yeah

[@TinyFord1]

Luckily people assume correctly, because non-linear timelines only exist in literature

[@juanmontiell3669]

Stephen Hawking set up a party one night, the next morning he gave away the time and location of the party and invited anyone to come, so that only a Time traveler could attend the meeting in the past. No one ever showed up, and will.

[@walterlyzohub8112]

Stephen Hawkin caused a problem when he told about the party and invite. If time travelers existed it would be to their interest not to be noticed to get history answers without corruption. So if the party got guests Hawkin could not talk about it. Seems like Schrodinger’s Cat idea.

[@rl9835]

But if a time traveller showed it would mean he showed up without stefen Hawking asking for it bcz hawking didn't knew about the party the previous day

[@zabiralnazi2402]

If time travel is invented, it may be highly regulated in the future. We can not even travel to a different country without passport and visa, how can we expect some random time traveler kid will pop up in our time. I don't think time travel will be open to all as it may break so many things in the future.

[@mayb3]

It wasn't a bad idea but also if time travel existed maybe people who could travel wouldn't care about his party lmao

[@MohammadAli-iz9ld]

@@mayb3 i had the same thought

[@shahidkarimm]

"A man can do what he wills, but cannot will what he wills."

[@nivedhhegde9521]

Wants*

[@LEGEND-ob7ur]

@@nivedhhegde9521 nope it's wills the guy above is correct it's the original quote from the show

[@davidbehnke1421]

-A. Schopenhauer

[@chitrikart2328]

Soooo a WOman can do it? Oh ok

[@katybee3891]

LEGEND 333 as a german I would translate wollen/will as wanting/want. Subs can be incorrect

[@Mr_Fluffy_Paws]

Stephen Hawking once conducted an experiment where he hosted a private party for Time Travelers only and then only sent the invite out the following day. But no one showed up to the party so he concluded either time travel is impossible or it is heavily regulated in the future to where it's not for public use

[@mrparkerdan]

Did he invite anyone who actually had a working time machine?

[@ZeinabTalabi]

Or maybe it was a shit party

[@Mr_Fluffy_Paws]

@@mrparkerdan it was an open invitation to time travelers of any era.

[@sakilparvez1283]

Who has come here after watching "DARK" ?

[@sarabarbosa8716]

Me

[@wojtus1953]

The whole series is a paradox

[@rinreborn7364]

Sakil Parvez what dark?

[@wojtus1953]

@@rinreborn7364 a series on netflix next time use Google bro

[@Bizarro69]

We're in a boot strap paradox

[@lordquackers5764]

Wow That scientist's clothes are looking awfully *schwifty*

[@kennethflores4308]

Oh yeah, it's time to get schwifty. It's time to get schwifty in here.

[@jacksputrid]

Literally ricks outfit

[@piperplimmyplymouth]

or doc from back to the future

[@ipotatosenpai7002]

@@giordano5787 lmfao

[@assignmentpapermaster]

Bootstrap paradox: me going to watch Dark after reading several mentions

[@rodrigoap6721]

Be prepared for the ride of your life........

[@celiwhaaat6285]

Have fun 😏

[@assignmentpapermaster]

@@celiwhaaat6285 now binge watching😀

[@celiwhaaat6285]

Edgar Escobar haha yeah that’s how it went for me as well. :D

[@546-apoorvaranjan7]

And thus ...the cycle begins. You go to watch dark after this video and after dark you see this video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@r.a.o.laster5984]

The entropy rule doesn't necessarily apply here. Let's say that as you fail to build a temporal distortion machine, you take notes. Then you take the successes in the notes and notice that the collection looks exactly like the book you received. The book would never age because it will always be a new book when it gets sent back.

[@franciscooctavius5957]

I think you are applying an assumption that the time traveler had to or decided to take notes. Why would he need to do that if the book shows him how to build it?

[@r.a.o.laster5984]

@@franciscooctavius5957 the video said that it took ten years of failure to finally pull it off. If it were me, I would be taking notes about what went wrong in the earlier models, as well as what went right. When you send back the book, it only has the parts that were successful, and this would actually collapse the paradox as a whole.

[@KJO1993]

​@r.a.o.laster5984 Im not so sure it would collapse, but it may depend on the person. In my case, i wouldn't keep my old notes on the failures once i had the correct process. I would simply write out the correct process to refer to since i now possess the knowledge of why and how it works. For the present me its more a guide if i needed to create another machine like following a recipe for a cake. And i believe this is why the past me in this scenario struggles for ten years because they dont have the 10 years of knowledge to follow the instructions to correctly bake this time cake. leading to trial and error, leading to success, to writing the recipe book now the understand how it works, and lastly passing it on. starting the loop again. I think the key is you only realize the book you write is the same one you recieved AFTER you finish writing it. Once you know that you have a choice to make. would you send a new version thats easier to understand to break the loop and risk something changing catastrophicly or would you send the slower but guaranteed path to past you building the time machine... you know how to build it, but do you know exactly how time works and how making a change will affect you? Fun thought experiment but its waaaaay to late at night for me to be going down this rabbit hole haha. Good night going to bed.

[@crysis_averted]

Except if you're given the "successful notes" that's what you would start with so you would not be taking any additional notes as what you were given would be "successful" to start with. If you're talking about writing a new book each time, that's not what this scenario in the video is talking about.

[@myrddin4242]

The information would be prone to distortions as the loop progresses. It’s like a game of telephone.

[@adityarai8170]

"Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow are not consecutive, they are connected in a never ending cycle." - Dark

[@ZeldaWolf2000]

What he actually said was, "Gestern, heute, morgen, folgen nicht aufeinander. Sie sind eine ewigen Kreis miteinander verbunden. Alles ist miteinander verbunden." jK. What you said is right. I just love the original German, and I'm proud that I could follow most if Dark in German, except for the morgue scenes and most of Adam's and Eva's dialogue. A bit too complicated for me at the moment, but I'm getting better. Without spoiling it, did you like the ending? I did.

[@hawkeye171]

@@ZeldaWolf2000 is German hard to learn ?

[@ZeldaWolf2000]

@@hawkeye171 Like everything, it depends on how much work you put into learning it. I started learning in school, and kept up over the summer, so I didn't lose anything I learned the previous semester, and I also found other ways to learn other than in class or school material. I also care a lot about learning it, so my brain thinks it's important, making it easier for me to remember things. Now does this mean everything comes easy? No. But with time and exposure to-the language, it gets easier and easier. So if you're really interested in learning German, and are willing to put in the work then yeah, it'll be easer than without those things. It's also worth mentioning that, although I could follow most of Dark, I have a lot to learn. Just like at the beginning of Avatar. However, also just like Aang, I'm learning something every day. If you want beginner material, I highly recommend: Learn German With Ang and Get Germanized. They also do more advanced things, but they have nice beginner playlists to learn the basics. I also recommend VlogDave, who teaches German using songs and video games which is fun. Also, if you have grammar questions, google the question with "German is Easy" The author describes things in really good detail. I found them very helpful for learning issues I couldn't find answers to elsewhere. Viel Glück! Ich hoffe, das war hilfreich für dich. ☺️ Good Luck! (Literally much luck.) I hope this was helpful to you. Zeldawolf.

[@hawkeye171]

@@ZeldaWolf2000 This is more than helpful. It's very precise answer would help me a lot. Thanks a lot for resources mentioned.

[@ZeldaWolf2000]

@@hawkeye171 kein Problem! Du kannst es lernen! Du bist schlau. 😀

[@milchpackungszertreter6769]

Fact: u are time traveling into future right now

[@Infinity-ty1pl]

ayy brother you have the same profile picture as me!

[@milchpackungszertreter6769]

@@Infinity-ty1pl hi my brother from another mother

[@akshy471]

@@milchpackungszertreter6769 hey brothers..iam a stranger

[@saleeminamdar1772]

@@Infinity-ty1pl Yours is bit dark.

[@purvi110]

@@saleeminamdar1772 DARK... A WHOLE SHOW BOUT THOS PARADOX

[@derrickf8053]

Why can’t the person just use the time machine to observe how the book was delivered?

[@sieevansetiawan4792]

Good question

[@josephpaulson9495]

This would most likely work, I think. If time travel does go back in your own universe, you waiting to see how the book was delivered would be an actual event in the timeline, and you would discover how it was delivered just because it could happen literally no other way. If you go to a parallel universe, then I feel like the same thing would apply, because the universe you left is an exact copy of the one you entered, with the one difference that you weren't watching yourself get the book delivered to you. You would just have to be careful to not accidentally scare off the deliverer of the book on accident.

[@ryanjesson9220]

Joseph Paulson Wouldnt the person delivering the book just be another future you?

[@nikhillal7204]

Ryan Jesson not necessarily. It’s not compulsory that you have to go back in time and give the book to yourself. Since the past you has to get the book anyways, present you can just go back in time, hide and observe how the book got there. The infinite loop only exists when the present you puts the book on your past doorstep. Otherwise, as the book being delivered is a definite event, it’ll have to be done by a third party.

[@saidmiranda1989]

Nikhil Lal You hit the spot man.

[@iainreeve4522]

The thing that has always bugged me about both time travel and Star Trek-like transporters is how do you physically insert your body into a new space which already has stuff in it? You wouldn't want to be transported inside a house in case there was a chair or table in the space that you appeared into. That would have to hurt, wouldn't it? And you wouldn't want to be transported outside because you might get merged with a tree or a rabbit or something. Even transporting into an empty space would mean that you would have to displace some air molecules. Or end up with the bends or a massive wind problem. If you figured all that out you would have to compensate for the movement of the Earth. You couldn't just go back 100 years and reappear where you were. You would have to compensate for the fact that the Earth will have moved relative to your starting position. Never say never and all that, but I'm voting "nah" on this one

[@cattysplat]

Sending a physical thing through time travel is definitely impossible to our current understanding of physics. Sending information however, using mediums such as light, seems much more viable, as long as there are equipment in the past/future to receive the information and a person to understand it. It's likely that past time travel will be very much limited to the dawn of digital technology, or perhaps the 20th century with electrical communication. But communicating with the future will also be difficult, since we phase out older communication technology all the time, you'd have to try sending a future message to some luddite using "old" tech.

[@zwenkwiel816]

I think.real time travel would require a vehicle or something to protect you and I think your arrival would probably be very violent and would by very definition rip apart space and time where/whenever you arrive...

[@darlenesmith5690]

@@cattysplat Actually, sending information still does not make sense. One reason that people think that one could go back in time is due to the mathematics that physicists use. The math doesn't care. One can go forward or backwards in the equations because math is just a representation of an idea. But it's almost definitely true that reality does not work that way. Of course, one has to be open to the idea that reality might allow time travel, but it is extremely unlikely for many reasons including breaking the Law of Conservation of Energy. In reality, time is probably not a dimension like many people view it. Time is merely an idea to represent past events and potential future events. There is no such thing as time in reality. It's just an easy to understand abstract concept. The most reasonable explanation of time is that there is only the now. The now constantly changes, but it is the same now everywhere in the universe. The now changes faster or slower depending on gravity and environment which we perceive as time flowing faster or slower. The past no longer exists, so there is no past to travel to. There is no past to send information to. The future does not yet exist, so there is no future to go to (except the normal way by using the now). If viewed this way (which is possibly reality), there are no paradoxes because objects or information cannot be sent to other "times". Those other "times" do not exist. Only one time exists. Now. The fact that it changes does not mean that other times exist.

[@eduardoroman2691]

@@zwenkwiel816 In that case, what does protect the vehicle from the same consequences?

[@zwenkwiel816]

@@eduardoroman2691 well I dno cuz the tech hasn't been invented yet but if this kind of travel is possible I think it will have to make like a hole in space and time for you to appear in. Think this will.require a lot of energy and be very violent so the human body would be able to withstand it without protection. Basically think it would be like the vacuum of space or something so maybe just a pressurized steel hull will be enough but who.knows maybe we need some anti matter force field around the vehicle to punch a hole trough space and time...

[@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234]

The way I consider it, it’s impossible to ever travel back in time. Obviously, you have some reason for doing so, but once you’ve done it, you no longer have the reason to need to do it, so you never do, yada yada, e.g. you were late for school, so you travel back in time and wake yourself up on time. You now weren’t late, so you never travel back in time to wake yourself up.

[@earlgrey7791]

That's what I've always thought!

[@Forgotten7ea]

If time travel ever exists, wouldn't it be impossible to travel back in time to change something the past? The past has already happened so whatever you do once you go back in time will not change how the events play out since they've already happened. If you go back in time to wake yourself up early, you know you've already failed because you did not wake up early (hence the need to time travel in the first place). Even when you travel back in time, you have already woken up late so whatever you do while time traveling, the past you is still going to sleep in because you already did. I hope that makes sense.

[@soulslicer4288]

It most likely would be impossible for any time travel as matter cannot be created or destroyed if you went back in time their would be duplicates of all your atoms

[@doctorxawesomestop-motion1234]

soulslicer 42 that’s a very good point

[@earlgrey7791]

@@soulslicer4288 Not necesserily. When people think of time travel, they don't usually think of creating a copy of yourself in another point of time. Usually, people think of travelling to that point yourself.

[@kryptonian1371]

Writers of Netflix's Dark - "WRITE THAT DOWN!!!!!"

[@beetrootmckinnley3486]

Writers of Netflix Dark reach into pocket, pull out rumpled paper with this URL written on it. DUM DUM DUUUUM!

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

Isn't Dark in German? *Machen Sie eine Kopie davon!*

[@kryptonian1371]

@@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. yes it is in German, but I watched it with English subtitles.

[@nibinfasel2673]

It’s in dark hg tanhauss and his book

[@ДаниилМартынов-м9й]

The paradox was mentioned in season 2. The object with no origin appears to be a person. The best show of all time, by the way, and the final is in just 10 days.

[@carlbruschnigjr1757]

"Where did the book come from?" Anyone ever think to check the copyright page?

[@naso5094]

ok boomer

[@zpectral]

shakespeare gets a DMCA claim

[@glen1555]

That was also my thought. It should have an ISBN number at least

[@reubenmarchant2229]

Only if it was officially published and registered.. It could been written before copyrights and ISBNs.

[@nicedubs8163]

If I ever write a book, I am going to publish it under the name "future" + [my name]. That way, anyone who steals my work will sound crazy trying say that my already published work hasn't been written yet.

[@Nyruami]

If we would ever be able to travel back in time, we would already know it from meeting the travelers.

[@KomosKoisig]

But what if the traveler only "starts having ever existed in the past" as soon as he travels? What if his actions only occur as soon as the present reaches the point he travels from?

[@Nyruami]

@@KomosKoisig Well, if time is a dimension you can travel in, this doesn´t make any sense. When you travel in three dimensions nothing of that happens, why should it happen in a fourth dimension? There is a hypothesis on time travel, involving a rather big construct in space to open the wormhole you can travel through. The problem is, the math allows you time travel, but only back to the point when the construct was finished and opened that wormhole. So if, some 1000s of years in the future something like this is built, people from some ten thousand years in the future could travel back until this point in time, but not further. Maybe this kind of time travel will exist some day, but time travel that allows you to go whenever you want will never exist, else we would be visited by travelers all the time.

[@monu5448]

"Dark" webseries writer first saw this video and then wrote the mess that we are trying to understand

[@brandtrobinson690]

Everyone here comparing the scientist to rick Sanchez. No respect for my man Lewis from meet the Robinsons.

[@poleyville3865]

Here I was thinking Doc from Back to the Future. Perhaps the creators of the animation wanted to allude to all of them in some way.

[@Shadethewolfy]

Or HOUOUIN KYOUMA!!! THE DEMIURGE OF CHAOS, THE TRUE MAD SCIENTIST!!

[@OneDeadArtist]

@@poleyville3865 now I'm convinced they threw in aspects of several time travel icons to make discussing which it's supposed to be in the comments as confusing as the bootstrap paradox concept itself

[@ZombieisthenewBlack]

*Hits Blunt* : "Time is a construct bro."

[@mirzawaqas7876]

*illusion

[@ZombieisthenewBlack]

@@mirzawaqas7876 human construct is what I meant which is also true

[@mirzawaqas7876]

SpiltMilk fair point

[@ZombieisthenewBlack]

@@mirzawaqas7876 it trips me out that after 12 am you have to say yesterday. If you stay up it's not the next day to me. It's the next day once the sun comes up mentally to me. Like wat.

[@hatguy7120]

SpiltMilk the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma

[@davewilliam5228]

How To Travel Back In Time 1. Make digital clock fives hours backwards. 2. Make digital clock seven hours backwards.

[@williamfitzpatrick6369]

Are you telling me I have to shut down my time travel business?

[@whimsy5623]

Hey, go to the future, get a box of super durable material, put a phone in it, go back in time ten thousand years, then set it so the box opens in 2020.

[@flamegame2688]

Some people need this technology.

[@crazzyflynn2433]

Sir what about my salary then??

[@williamfitzpatrick6369]

@@crazzyflynn2433 , Burger King is hiring.

[@crazzyflynn2433]

@@williamfitzpatrick6369 what about McDonalds???

[@AmazinglyEmber]

I'm not here because of Dark, never saw 1 episode. My KZbin feed is just this cool.

[@TheClinchMagazine]

Same here

[@snowflake1135]

I would recommend it

[@Glyph69]

Stfu

[@AmazinglyEmber]

@@Glyph69 ok I will. Great comment.

[@rachithjedidiah]

@@snowflake1135 hey thanks man I binge-watched it this last week

[@roryboytube]

The Tannhaus Doppler paradox.

[@snowflake1135]

Tannhaus is charlotte’s original name, Doppler is here married name

[@dari9345]

Snowflake I mean... just like Michael is still Nielsen, Charlotte’s original name would be Niewald. Why? Because she is Noah’s daughter. Noah is Bartosz’ son, and Bartosz is Boris’ son, and Boris’ name is Niewald. Almost everyone is Aleksander’s descendant.

[@abishek1910]

@@dari9345 not only Alexander but Hannah too as silja was born after Hannah travel back in past with Egon

[@dari9345]

@@abishek1910 Bernd/Hannah/Aleksander/Egon are the true ancestors of the family tree.

[@geoffdutton9632]

"Time" is just a sequence of events you can't travel in it and anybody who theorizes that you can should be labelled clinically insane.

[@EnderKingDubs]

But the real question here is, "Who wrote Beethoven's 5th?"

[@karlsnyder1226]

Nice

[@CM-yg2pk]

“Google it”

[@cernolgluestick5561]

dun dun dun duuuuuuun

[@aadarshuniyal5043]

*plugs in guitar* duhn duhn duhnnnnn

[@Riteshkrpanda]

The Question is not Who? The question is When? D A R K viewers.... You got my reference

[@garlicbread5966]

Him explaining a really complex paradox My brain: haha time goes tik tok

[@ahmedshabir8460]

You talking about helge?

[@vardhanshah2810]

Me who has watched dark : Aah, first grade problems......

[@Samiless]

Why is this a thing now? It feels like this guy managed to time travel and give the idea to the creator of Dark

[@ritzgamo]

same after watching dark haha

[@yahyarisqi7879]

@@Samiless The one giving the creator idea to make Dark is actually the one who has already watched it in the future. Boom there you go bootstrap paradox

[@NaveedKhanYT]

@@yahyarisqi7879 This is what happens if we use 100% of our brains!!😂😂

[@AngelLestat2]

the entropy problem is not a real problem in dark, because never is the same object, just the same information that is being copy.

[@oscarsusan3834]

Time travel isn’t a problem, until you want it to be.

[@potatoman5115]

Not only was that guy able to build a time machine, but he also turned himself into a pickle.

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

Funniest shit I've ever seen.

[@MrMaskYT]

Aww geez rick

[@fredweller1086]

Only if he's avoiding family therapy.

[@squeakerkid915]

“What am I gonna touch and its gonna be an alien dick or something?”

[@christianelijahquandus3635]

This is why Rick Sanchez doesn’t respect time traveling

[@spartanshadow13]

There is a cool episode on season 4 where morty uses this time thing to his amusement. I won't spoil it but it pretty much goes into the theory of multiverses as usual.

[@SPFLDAngler]

@@spartanshadow13 That isn't time travel. It's explained at the end but they rush through it and make it super convoluted. Instead of time travel and "rewinding" time it's just creating an alternate universe and replacing the Morty that exists there, but everything that he does has still happened it is only him that doesn't know this. the rest of the world has still experienced everything he has done in every alternate universe and at the end Rick merges them all into one and forces Morty to confront his actions just to get him to apologize and say that the acid tank was a really cool idea...

[@SuperOscar2003]

Rhubartu the Saiyan pretty sure he already knew that

[@bsgfan1]

0:34 take a really close look at the guy

[@antoninatgerauteur9306]

Snake episode dude. And the Christmas hats of this episode are in a bootstrap

[@rajdeepnath6890]

Example of bootstrap paradox = watch Netflix's DARK

[@brucecarson1778]

For sure and sit around trying to theorize; when and who until you're brain just quits lol.

[@SirSlimeington]

Or play The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Song of Storms is the same

[@ThisNameWasTaken0]

Very good example!

[@CSimmons483]

Just got to the second season... I’m loving it man.

[@ZombieisthenewBlack]

Lemme use your Netflix account bro, not everyone has one lmao

[@rgbcolor6450]

Time travel is only possible going forward. You can not reverse entropy, but you can put it on hold. If you travel forward in time, you can not go back.

[@arihanttiwari31]

Well the problem with this whole thing is that the person assumed that when he goes back in time there was no book on the doorstep already.

[@MouseGoat]

nor that every time he jumps back he comes to a clean timeline, instead of one of his past were in there already is a him. might sound weird, but thats the problem with time travel.

[@johnrogan9420]

The altering of the past would affect the future.

[@stevedoetsch]

@@johnrogan9420 Yes, that's called normal life.

[@arpitabanerjee75795]

Arihant is bad but hc verma is great

[@souvikbose2275]

@@johnrogan9420 Also the altering of the future affects the past

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

We are all time travellers, we all move forward in time at one second per second.

[@ndutone]

After reading this I realized that I had travelled 5 seconds into the future.. maybe if I read it again slower, I could I travel into the future to the weekend.. 🤔

[@พรนิภาลีละธนาฤกษ์]

r/technicallythetruth

[@brentvercauter6252]

Not actually true, time is not absolute. Time is relative to us, a moving person experiences time slower then a stationary person.

[@deanmoncaster]

@@brentvercauter6252 bingo

[@royboy565]

I haven't got time for this!

[@VyomParekh]

They made a whole series on bootstrap paradox in German(if you know what i am referring to)

[@Killmonger234]

Dark isn't it

[@sandy456j]

Which

[@_born__confused_5204]

@@sandy456j dark

[@shivanipriya7315]

Dark ❤️

[@azaka3720]

My favorite series ever....Dark💕

[@jimlewis5477]

If every point in time in your entire life happens all at once and you only experience it linearly, then there is no paradox.

[@tremondial]

This is basically the plot of Netflix's "Dark". Season 3 coming up with the whole multiverse thingy!

[@Limitbreak09]

Man i cant wait.. i thought we're going to wait 2-3 yrs bc of corona pushing back all the shooting. But we're luck they finished it.

[@unclerandy398]

Sounds cool

[@Lionkingview]

Tick... Tock... tick.... tock

[@PritenVora]

Sic mundus created this video

[@jayray101]

Way to just blast spoilers out for no reason you fucking quack.

[@ChurroLightyear]

I want to make sketchy books on "how to build a time machine" and leave it on strangers doorsteps

[@ShivamThakur-rt6js]

😂😂 also film his reaction and upload on youtube

[@unpopularopinion3784]

WHAT IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS

[@shrekonion8307]

@@ShivamThakur-rt6js shut up

[@asktheetruscans9857]

Make sure you start evey paragraph with: "Thus sayeth the LORD!"

[@thegimmer1260]

I edited my comment, so now you have to guess what I had written before this. 😂

[@SekondSparkTreg]

@Panzer Waffel some kind of bird layed an egg that produced a chicken.

[@SekondSparkTreg]

@Panzer Waffel It was too long ago. I mean a homo erectus gave birth to a homo sapiens and was like "Dude wtf is wrong with ma child" and then a homo habilis came and was like wakalaouououou wakalalalalala ouou.... so they ate him

[@johnweber4504]

Would it be possible to be your own parent?

[@thegimmer1260]

@@johnweber4504 probably not, because if you were to time travel back and reproduce, the genes would be different. However if your mother broke up with your father, then you would be the stepfather and not the biological parent

[@--hEaVeN-cn4gx]

The organism before the chicken evolves and then the eggs appear but lol your comment is iconic

[@linuxsurfer2002]

3:38 I don't think entropy applies here. But comment if I'm wrong. Here's my thought - the time loop only occurs once. Events proceed like this: You get the book -> build time machine -> travel back to give yourself the book ->Travel back to the future to continue your life.

[@amarsaini1548]

Who is here after watching dark on Netflix?

[@johannesh7610]

Dark is incredibly great

[@dankim5093]

Amar Saini yeee

[@SandeepM0ttan]

u nailed it

[@cassiomartins6536]

Thought about the whole Jonas and Mikkel problem.

[@erierierierierie]

You are

[@morrisergeo]

Time travel may end up being like a ‘read-only’ type of experience that we can use to view the past but not interact in any way. Time travel would essentially just be extremely specific remote viewing.

[@EVAUnit4A]

@Gatlin Videos However, at that point, you introduce The Observer Effect into the equation, which is already an issue when you _don't_ get time travel involved.

[@ojaichuck]

Yes. Snd finally answer the question of the chicken and the egg.

[@EVAUnit4A]

@@ojaichuck Evolution created both the chicken and the egg at the same time; there was not one before the other. However, that does not negate the issue of the Bootstrap Paradox.

[@Ra-Hul-K]

@@ojaichuck good luck with that 😁

[@CinemaDemocratica]

That's called a VCR.

[@amansharma-bu3zj]

This happens in Harry Potter when he saves himself from dementors

[@wisdomtoknowthedifference]

time turner

[@kaustubhpatil9099]

Always, finds alikes

[@thedubstepdoge]

THE WORST THING ABOUT PRISON WAS THE DEMEANTORS!

[@JayGarrickFlash]

I've had so many debates with people about this. It makes no sense to me how he would be able to cast a patronus if he had to see himself do it. It would mean that in the first iteration of the loop, he was able to cast it without seeing his future self do it, but then there'd be no reason for him to travel back in time.

[@damonnomad3422]

@@JayGarrickFlash if that confuses you never watch the Flash on the CW lol

[@kalmac6255]

"This stuff always makes my head hurt." --The Flash

[@anshumanrath6703]

DARK viewers:-"This did indeed happen, a book that explains time machine had no source, yet it was part of an infinite loop"

[@TheZombiesAreComing]

4:25 The most logical theory is the multiverse theory in which traveling to the past causes a new timeline to form with nothing you do being able to change the past of the timeline you originated from and attempting to return to your future will instead travel to the future of the new timeline. This would eliminate the paradoxes problem of time travel. It would, however, give rise to new questions such as "how many timelines are there", "is our timeline the original timeline", "is there a limit on how many alternate timelines can be created", etc.

[@businesstuber3978]

Is there a point to "time traveling" if the future you make is not for your original universe, since no matter what you do there still exists a universe (the one you left) where the problems are all the same, you just don't exist anymore

[@TheZombiesAreComing]

@@businesstuber3978 There are, but not everyone would value the reasons. 1. You are tired of your original universe and feel like it is beyond saving thus you abandon it and move on to another. 2. You wish to see the past for yourself even knowing in doing so you can never return to your universe of origin (a trade I'm sure many historians would gladly make) 3, Sometimes the grief of loosing those you care about can lead people to desperation. In an act of desperation there are those would would gladly forsake their universe of origin to see their loved ones again 4. Arrogant scientists that think they can find a way to bend the rules and return to their original universe anyways. 5. I'm sure many would be tyrants would leap at the chance to conquer civilizations of the past, even though they would be split timelines/universes. You would never get back to your friends and family in your original timeline though (if you have any) and from their point of view, you vanish forever without a trace. If you have no attachments to your original universe, there is not really anything holding you back.

[@AyTJay]

if all timelines still follow the exact time point, as in the present in all timelines. Then we don't have to worry.

[@Deathnotefan97]

Actually, the most logical theory is a deterministic universe where the timeline cannot be changed (assuming time travel is possible of course) The debate of free will arises because people disagree on what “free will” even is It’s not possible to fly by flapping your arms really fast, the laws of physics don’t allow it, it’s not possible to change the past, the laws of physics don’t allow it Why is one used to say free will doesn’t exist but not the other?

[@nikthetrik5085]

If Multiverses exist then the Time-Machines just are the Portals bitween those Universes. 1. Why should Multiverses be time sinchonzed? 2. If traveling beteeen Multiverses would be possible the first law of thermodynamics would resoult in some „empty“ and other „full“ Universes. 3. With endless Multiverses, there should endless Timetraveling be happening. But we don‘t see any of it, therefory… 4. Multiverses doesn‘t seem to be the Solution for TimeTravel Paradoxes.

[@RenVasTerul]

It was recommended to me a day before Dark season 3 release. I love it

[@X-boomer]

What people often don’t grasp is that even if time travel were possible, and there is a strong argument that it isn’t and which you omitted - even if it were possible then in a causal loop there is no “Again and again”. Whoever is in that loop can experience it only once and there is only one static unchanging version of it.

[@dougj3528]

bingo! i don’t think time travel is possible, and videos like this feel more like “here’s how the world would be if 2+2=100.”

[@wesfax1]

Quantum Physics is mysticism.... It originates from ancient Babylon and was a perversion that the Pharisees adopted back then.They still practice it today. Ie. Kabbalah The media is pushing this garbage and things like time travel and simulation theory ... It goes all the way back to Genesis 3 5. The idea of us being like gods.

[@CompassIIDX]

Years ago an old girlfriend mentioned how the end of 12 Monkeys was distressing because it revealed this never-ending loop of events. I had taken your view, and thus responded probably rather condescendingly that no, everything happened precisely once. This understandably deflated her, and I occasionally remember and cringe at the smarm of my past self. I should have tried to explain myself, had a conversation, admitted I at least understood where she was coming from. But I didn't. One of many (many) things I would fix if I could go back. But I can't. Nobody can.

[@datboi42]

Can you explain further?

[@X-boomer]

@@datboi42entering the loop undoes any prior versions of the timeline. For anyone exiting the loop, there is only the final version. If anyone somehow re-enters the loop with any memory of having done it before, that’s now a memory of something that never happened - and the survival of the memory means their body has racked up some extra miles - they continue to age while traversing the loop. So even for them, they could not continue re-iterating forever, they will eventually die. From a global standpoint, there can only be one version of the timeline with any loops frozen in place. The timeline cannot “evolve” over time because time is already occupied being the timeline. The “block universe” in which the timeline exists is a stone sculpture, not a movie.

[@nonon6236]

"Stand up,Father"

[@colincomber8027]

"By His Bootstraps" is a 20,000 word science fiction novella by American writer Robert A. Heinlein. It plays with some of the inherent paradoxes that would be caused by time travel. ... Under the title "The Time Gate", it was also included in a 1958 Crest paperback anthology, Race to the Stars.

[@Charlieb82]

And it was originally written in 2153...

[@clintonsmith5163]

By His Bootstraps is Heinlein at his best. It is a true classic. I've read it three times and I'll probably read it again someday.

[@steelman774]

@@clintonsmith5163 it’s like your own personal Time Loop. You are going through the same motions as you read the book, but with predisposed knowledge and emotional ties to the events.

[@joemahony4198]

Which come first the chicken or the egg?

[@joemahony4198]

The past disappears into the present which becomes the future, as Steve King wrote. All other choices end when we make a choice.

[@gcdiver]

Everyone knows that in order to time travel you need 1) a flux capacitor, and 2) a DeLorean DMC-12, and plutonium.

[@monkdogg6916]

gcdiver and 1.21 gigawatts marty !!! 🤣

[@ony3179]

I'm a 90s kid and watching back to the future with my kids. Part three starting now... ;)

[@unclecreepy7025]

Or a Mr. Fusion.

[@ModernDayWarrior]

Wrong. All you need is a mysterious clockwork mechanism and some Cesium-137.

[@CptnMango9108]

A watch and a potato

[@robertrochester403]

Time travel is probably impossible but if it is workable your mere presence would disrupt any number of probabilitys.Something that might seem insignicant could set off a whole change of events and lead up to some crucial event that would unravel all historical chronology.

[@josephemmerling5860]

Regardless of paradox and entropy there is physics. Physical location. The whole universe is in motion and going back in time would also have to include faster than light travel to make it to an appropriate location that does not contain matter much less a specific location on the earth's surface.

[@JayWind111]

Didnt think of this, good point

[@bryanbowen4193]

No, you are subjectively thinking this through. If we live in an absolute singularity and let consciousness decide the path of interpretation we get a linear perspective of endless possibilities but to us, our awareness is impeded. Think about this objectively using a limitless supply of subjective viewpoints to create a broader interpretation. Once you do this, take it up a notch until you understand the singularity in its complete form. Neither here nor there but also any and every where. No causality. Only being. A perfect balance.

[@Juan-ip1ow]

@@bryanbowen4193 you my friend are not right ...but you're also not wrong

[@JoeWhite3572]

That’s not how time travel works🤣

[@christiandauz3742]

I believe that through Quantum Mechanics and the Multiverse Theory that we can go to other Timelines It is not time travel per say but it doesn't creat any Paradoxes Both 1632 and Lest Darkness Fall use multiple timelines

[@deferguard7748]

So there's this man. He has a time machine. Up and down history he goes, zip zip zip zip zip, getting into scrapes. Another thing he has is a passion for the works of Ludwig van Beethoven. And one day he thinks, what's the point of having a time machine if you don't get to meet your heroes? So off he goes to eighteenth century Germany. But he can't find Beethoven anywhere. No one's heard of him, not even his family have any idea who the time traveller is talking about. Beethoven literally doesn't exist. This didn't happen, by the way. I've met Beethoven. Nice chap. Very intense. Loved an arm-wrestle. No, this is called the Bootstrap Paradox. Google it. The time traveller panics. He can't bear the thought of a world without the music of Beethoven. Luckily he'd brought all of his Beethoven sheet music for Ludwig to sign. So he copies out all the concertos, and the symphonies and he gets them published. He becomes Beethoven. And history continues with barely a feather ruffled. But my question is this. Who put those notes and phrases together? Who really composed Beethoven's Fifth?

[@calculator17]

You like doctor who?

[@deferguard7748]

Calculator you've found it only right now? >.>

[@de55y]

This is in Doctor Who tho!

[@perfectstrangers4031]

Seriously Yahoo

[@nathanlabrador7664]

DeferGuard *plays Beethoven's Fifth on an electric guitar*

[@chaomac]

Kid: Can I have Rick Mom: We have Rick at home

[@akshittyagi6482]

The question is not 'how ?' or 'where ?' but 'when ?'

[@karanpunjabi3077]

Mikkel?

[@akshittyagi6482]

@@karanpunjabi3077 michael

[@karanpunjabi3077]

@@akshittyagi6482 Can't wait for more

[@itisohm]

The question is not "When?", But "From what world?".

[@akshittyagi6482]

@@itisohm The question isn't "from what world?", the questions is "WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?! DA FUK DO YOU MEAN ELIZABETH GAVE BIRTH TO HER OWN MOTHER!?!?!? SHE'S HER OWN GRANDMOTHER, AND GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER!!!? HOW THE FUQ COULD SHE EXIST IN THE FIRST FOOKIN PLACE?!! WHO CAME BEFORE, CHARLOTTE OR ELIZABETH? CHICKEN OR EGG? OMG ALSO THE FIRST LETTERS MATCH!!" Ahem, sorry I got a bit carried away, just finished rewatching season 2

[@jahda_]

I’m here because of Doctor Who’s “Before the Flood” episode, but after reading all the comments-will 100% be checking out Dark

[@leighadudley1505]

I’m here because if that too haha

[@Abbasjawad373]

Same brother

[@wyrowood3490]

Same

[@jaydenbuchanan8083]

Same

[@TurnerWho]

I was looking for this comment

[@apurvthakur1056]

Hence they said “everything is connected" Everyone got this video in recommendation after watching dark.

[@happinesstan]

Nope.

[@SupachargedGaming]

I mean if that's what led you here, why not dirk gently?

[@yourmoonflowers]

@@SupachargedGaming omg yes, I highly recommend Dirk too!

[@arshaditya]

Me 😅 and I'm 69th person who liked your comment 😂

[@TBirum1]

I think the only way we could "time travel" is if we discover that time does not function as we currently understand it to.

[@oneflakes2319]

The beginning is end And the end is beginning

[@kirtirajlahiry8135]

That's 'Dark' bro

[@jana8977]

This >

[@UtopiaBettaThanAstro]

sic mundus

[@nishanthmannuzzz3988]

Tic tok

[@roryboytube]

Tick Tock

[@gauravv3367]

According to me, Anything that causes a paradox is impossible

[@obi-wankenobi5411]

Yep. A paradox can't occur. So this will not be possible to do even if we could travel time.

[@insertclevernamehere2506]

Paradoxically, you stating that a paradox is impossible created a paradox.

[@israelRaizer]

@@insertclevernamehere2506 how so?

[@allnamesaretakenful]

In Doctor Who the Master created a Paradox Machine that allowed a Paradox to happen.

[@gauravv3367]

@@allnamesaretakenful But that wasn't in real life, just a TV Show

[@GeorgeCowsert]

I think I just realized why Dr. Who calls it the "Time Vortex" Imagine this: several timelines spiralling around a tube, each one with it's own distinct yet similar series of cause and effect. If anything is done to disturb the timeline, then all it need to do is shift the disturbance into a separate timeline. That's why we see the TARDIS floating through this cloudy tube at the beginning of every episode: it's literally navigating the timelines and trying to make sure it lands in the correct continuity, not just the time period. In cases where paradoxes occur, the Doctor often acknowledges how "the timeline has been polluted" and that something will happen to fix it. It's honestly brilliant for the writers, since they can do basically anything without consequences.

[@mrt6012]

This comment gave me high.

[@VoightKampf]

In other words, timey whimey

[@AfRorschach]

The Netflix show Dark did a really good job of playing this out.

[@shayminsky5059]

The Bootstrap Paradox, also known as the entire Aether Zombies Story Line

[@jacobking3736]

I am that duck

[@qglow-5609]

😂fax

[@brennenj]

I know what must be done and who must do it

[@smeermr9647]

fucking facts

[@SA-ut7ns]

Exactly