What’s most annoying is, Adrien’s birth is the catalyst for this entire show; his birth is what made Emillie sick and go into a coma/die which led to Gabe becoming Hawk Moth- and yet Adrien/ Chat Noir does nothing! He does more in the bloody show intro than he does in this finale
@driftyelssdt4080 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean the guy is the one that suffers the most and he gets to do nothing,and there is not excuse not to because he could have go to Paris like he did in the new York special As always ladybug has to be the center of attention
@DanielSeacrest Жыл бұрын
If Cat Noir / adrien was there, then it wouldn't be reasonable for him to forgive Garbiel though, which i guess is fine, but it would just take all his innocence away. And it would of been a big burden for adrien over the next couple of seasons
@makocrab9682 Жыл бұрын
The burden is still there, but now it’s Marinette’s alone to carry.
@driftyelssdt4080 Жыл бұрын
@@DanielSeacrest exactly thats the point,with Adrien there then the witch maybe would have not happen and Gabriel would pay for everything he has done and Adrien would have more character development
@driftyelssdt4080 Жыл бұрын
@@makocrab9682 as always This series was of ladybug and chat noir,not only ladybug
@libandualeh7621 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Marinette sympathises with Gabe after he abused his son emotionally and manipulated him, took advantage of everyone around him, threatened to delete his nephew from existence, caused Marinette herself so much stress after stealing the miraculouses and akumatised her classmates on countless occasions and many more things, yet she shuts off Chloe and calls her irredeemable is hilarious
@kainightshade5033 Жыл бұрын
That would be because Marinette does not know the full extent of Gabriel's abuse toward Adrien and because, within their universe, Gabriel is seen as a sympathetic sap instead of the monster he is so the real fault here doesn't lie on HER, it lies on how Astruc failed at portraying Gabriel's arc. Its funny how y'all keep bringing up Chloe who was ALWAYS meant to be irredeemable according to the writers (not that I agree but still). The bitch is written off the show, can't you let it go? 💀💀
@hafsagulizar7286 Жыл бұрын
You are so right even a 40 yo abuser/murderer/villain is getting redeemed but a 14 yo spoiled brat isn't It's disgusting
@Lolirock971 Жыл бұрын
Genesis 1 and Matthew 6 Please find YHWH Elohim and keep the commandments Exodus 20 Leviticus 11.
@kou7191 Жыл бұрын
@@kainightshade5033....she literally doesn't need to because she's been fighting Hawkmoth since day 1, and now that she knows they're the same person, it should be easy to put 2 and 2 together, besides, Gabe himself has been a jerk all season so she DOES have a right to be mad at him. That said, yes, all this isn't Marinette's fault as a character, it's Astruc's blatant bias.
@patrickagokei Жыл бұрын
@@kainightshade5033 Marinette quite literally saw Gabriel akumtize his son not once but twice which resulted in Gabriel destroying the world. But yeah.....Chloe is irredeemable
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
Gabe seemly gets a redemption, who has spent seasons psychologically torturing his son, while Chloe can’t I’m not even mad this is just hilarious at this point. 😅
@dumbass_brunette467 Жыл бұрын
He didn't get redeemed tho, the whole scene with him being celebrated as a hero was meant to be unsettling. He didn't win either, the woman in the final scene was Amelie, he simply transferred Nathalie’s illness to himself.
@duusu2608 Жыл бұрын
To think that Gabe was about to start WW3 for the miraculouses 😂
@randompeanut1156 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say he was redeemed. He just got what was coming to him.
@CriticoGaming2 Жыл бұрын
People even call Gabe a "terrorist" how can a "terrorist" be redeemable😢 And chole can't?
@billykaplan9915 Жыл бұрын
To be fair I'm expecting this bites Marinette later on when Lila reveal that Gabe was monarch si Adrien abd the city feel betrayed
@foxpokemonforever4775 Жыл бұрын
Finale was really mixed for me. Really upset how Adrien got sidelined AS USUAL
@DarkEmissary617 Жыл бұрын
Ikr it's his father who is Monarch and his mother who is the catalyst to this story. If Marinette had continued to hate him for being friends with Chloe, then none of this would be her beeswax. I love the show, but the plot conveniences can break even the most diehards from defending their decisions 🙄.
@Nathaplays_nat3 Жыл бұрын
I actually think the reason why they keep sidelining him is because it's all adding up, all these secrets and lies are all gonna add up to his villain arc, Cat Blanc was just a tease. Adrien will become his worst nightmare, and that isn't even his fault. I believe that Lila will tell him the truth and he will become a villain. A while ago, the people behind miraculous said something about villains becoming heroes (like Felix) and heroes becoming villains, and I definitely think the second part is referring to Adrien.
@DanielSeacrest Жыл бұрын
To me, If Cat Noir / adrien was there, then it wouldn't have be reasonable for him to forgive Garbiel though, which i guess is fine, but it would just take all his innocence away. And it would of been a big burden for adrien over the next couple of seasons, and that would of been hard to see as well.
@melit. Жыл бұрын
@@Nathaplays_nat3 yeah sounds cool in theory but it’ll suit turn into “how could you do this to Marinette, Adrien?” And Marinette stops him “saves him” from the darkness that she helped put him by lying about it. Maybe she’ll apologize, probably not though. While I’m not against the idea I don’t trust the writers to be nuanced or even write it well in the first place. Arguably he has every right to be upset and angry doesn’t mean he can do mean he can do bad things obviously. But with the way I’ve seen these writers choose to do things it’s gonna be framed as Adrien having no right to be angry or upset and he should forgive them for lying and emotionally manipulating him. They just what they thought was best, sounds familiar Huh? Cause that’s what Gabriel did, he’d tell Adrien everything he did to Adrien was what he thought was best for Adrien. And he got this ending, not being see as a villain by his son who he abused. So no as much as I think the idea is awesome. It wouldn’t just be not be done justice by these writers it would complete garbage like this finale. Sorry this got so long, trying to formulate my thoughts properly. And I’ll just say I will happily be proven wrong. If they do this direction and it’s actually nuanced and written well I will rejoice.
@meesha6723 Жыл бұрын
@@Nathaplays_nat3I hope so I used to love marinette but now, she is just becoming entitled. I think she needs to be humbled 🥲 WHERE IS CHOLE WHEN YOU NEED HER 😂
@kristiandimitrov7066 Жыл бұрын
So the abusive father gets a whole statue for himself and yet Chloe is the irredeemable one🙃
@randompeanut1156 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@luciacamacho444 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget! Abusive father AND literal terrorist!
@hiiamelecktro4985 Жыл бұрын
Child abuse < bullying
@kristiandimitrov7066 Жыл бұрын
@@hiiamelecktro4985 It’s good to know that if I have a child and abuse them, if I sacrifice myself in the end I’ll be a hero because I didn’t bully anyone else
@Imperial304 Жыл бұрын
@@kristiandimitrov7066They're being sarcastic
@paulagiselparma7125 Жыл бұрын
they made chatnoir unimportant, again. Gabriel being remembered as a hero? Adrien wanting to be like his dad? (the one that imprision him and brainwash him) yikes HORRIBLE.
@mladybug6620 Жыл бұрын
Ofc he wants to be like him if Gabriel made the new world.Gabriel wanted Adrien only to know that times he tried to be a good father so yeah he doesn't really remember all those bad times.And i bet that Marinette/Ladybug telling Adrien/Chat noir about Monarch will mostly be the plot of season 6.
@paulagiselparma7125 Жыл бұрын
@@mladybug6620 but gabriel didn't make that as part of his wish or he should have also payed another price. He didn't re shape the world as he wanted, he changed his mind after seing the video of his wife. He equally exchanged his life for her wife.
@d0ublewhammy Жыл бұрын
@@mladybug6620[SPOILERSSSS] don’t read if you don’t wanna get spoiled I read the Bible and he never finds out bc “ohhh poor Adrian, best for him to never know even though he has every right to know and this will be such a big step to his character development, BUT OHHHHHHHHH HE WILL BE SO SO SAD” which let’s be honest- doesn’t excuse lying to him about his dad being a hero, it’s just messed up. Honestly very disappointing
@mladybug6620 Жыл бұрын
@@d0ublewhammy The season 6 bible isn't even real bye.🤣
@d0ublewhammy Жыл бұрын
@@mladybug6620 it was mentioned it in the season 5 one, but I don’t know if they’ll change things
@Xiuying.official Жыл бұрын
I would literally pay money to have this show get a rewrite.
@honest-ex8dg Жыл бұрын
“would literally pay money” that part is literally so pointless like unless you a writer you’re gonna have to pay what
@charlulio Жыл бұрын
@@honest-ex8dg it aint that deep bro
@DishonorableMentions452 Жыл бұрын
Watch the bonds beyond fate rewrite by the artistic aloubelle
@sejsuper4660 Жыл бұрын
the show brings up so many interesting and creative ideas. does it ever use any of them? pfft. no of COURSE NOT
@AndrewDStarWarsGaming Жыл бұрын
One thing I couldn’t stop thinking about after watching the finale is that the kwamis explained in Ephemeral that the wish destroys the universe and creates a new one in its place. And then in the finale, Gabe actually is able to make the wish. So our original Marinette, Adrien, etc. were all vaporized and replaced with copies. Gabe won. The show’s over.
@legobrickstudios21 Жыл бұрын
Tbh the wish feels like they retconed for season 4 and then decided to go with the original idea anyways. Season 4 is this Black hole of stuff that went wrong but can be ignored in my eyes. Really enjoyed the finale though and I think actually seeing how the wishing works was pretty darn cool
@starsiadraws Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking but they *seem* to be the originals we've been following? I can only guess his wish was only to save Nathalie's life, instead of the whole "remaking the universe" thing.
@esayem7746 Жыл бұрын
I really don't get the whole remaking the universe for making a wish thing? Is it supposed to be retribution for fusing the miraculous in the first place? What is the point of giving something up in return for the wish then? Also seems a little like cheating that you can PICK what you want to give up. Unless I'm understanding it wrong 😅
@Vicktory94 Жыл бұрын
@@esayem7746let's be honest... The answer is that the wish is whatever the plot requires it to be, that's it. It stopped making sense right after Robostus imo.
@esayem7746 Жыл бұрын
@@Vicktory94 True, idk why I try to make sense of anything in this show anymore. For my own sanity ig? 😭😂
@personmensch6664 Жыл бұрын
I swear, most people in this finale are the embodiment of "No Thoughts Head Empty"
@randomviewer8756 Жыл бұрын
All of them believed lie-la's lies Soo.. not really surprising
@Ivypool123 Жыл бұрын
Yes😂😂
@Xiuying.official Жыл бұрын
Fr 💀
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right.
@kevsterhoungueh1975 Жыл бұрын
What was weird was the fact that Felix and Kagami, confirmed to Marinette that Gabriel was Hawkmoth. And the fact that she was shocked by that made me realized when she transformed to Ladybug, "Oh is she gonna go and confront Gabriel in the Finale?" But no, in the next episode we see her in bed fast asleep enduring a nightmare. And what made me REALLY mad was the fact that she only went to the Agrestes house to see Nathalie about Adrien, COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that Gabriel could be Monarch. And the look on her face when she saw Monarch de-transforming made me pause the video and say "Ok we can confirm that this girl was daydreaming during the play."
@eulalord9617 Жыл бұрын
omg I 100% thought that she knew and I was like wth when I saw the finale
@SteveCrafts2k Жыл бұрын
She has the brain cells of an amoeba.
@Xiuying.official Жыл бұрын
Omg I thought of that too, but I mean Adrian and marinette haven’t figured out that they’re ladybug and chat noir even tho it’s so obvious (and miss gurl transformed behind a BENCH) so I’m honestly not surprised
@ksjpapermario97 Жыл бұрын
The only other two explanations could be entering the agreste house she got smooth brainanitez something I just made up which basically translate to smooth brain in the the agreste house or two she just didn't believe kagami and Felix
@dianeadkins1281 Жыл бұрын
It's no different from Truth, Marinette saw Luka being akumatized but on the boat she as Ladybug was shocked the akumatized victim was Luka when she saw the autographed guitar pick as the point object of the akuma, and in Origins Cat Noir/Adrien knew Ladybug saved Chloe but in Lady WiFi he thought Chloe might be Ladybug - different studios with their own writers and drawers not keeping in touch with what the others are doing and saying, Adrien's bedroom is on both sides of the staircase, Adrien's bedroom entrance door and bathroom are switched often, each studio should be given the script and outline of buildings and story to be consistent it's like they are mixing alternate worlds, one episode the trap door to Marinette's bedroom opened up towards the sink Gamer so her parents could spy on them, after Elation the spool table on Marinette's patio is gone where did it go?
@austint4139 Жыл бұрын
How is Natalie going to kill Gabriel when she doesn’t even have an arrow in her crossbow
@toadd_0527 Жыл бұрын
😂 your actually right wth
@zero-5695 Жыл бұрын
So real of you
@Emma-ei2zk Жыл бұрын
Are you serious? Did they actually forget to add that? I could have sworn she had one loaded in the story board
@n4teofficial480 Жыл бұрын
She prob had in somewhere in her clothes
@somethingcreative32 Жыл бұрын
That is why you give her a gun!
@rajun713 Жыл бұрын
i will never understand why they made gabe the villain in the first place if theyre not ever gonna use the fact that HIS OWN SON is chat noir to their advantage... couldve just used a random person then 💀 ngl that dynamic was one of the main reasons i continued to watch the show this is so disappointing
@exoticeditz8863 Жыл бұрын
No fr the show is practically over now. Gabe made his wish, he won
@rajun713 Жыл бұрын
@@Libby_cas i've been thinking abt quitting too but i might watch the first few episode of s6 before i decide that
@sweetoil295210 ай бұрын
LITERALLY like, AUGHHH! Unbelievable!!
@Iheartseattle1 Жыл бұрын
I have a theory to explain every character’s behavior this season: Astruc sucks at writing
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Жыл бұрын
Oh trust us. We know.
@topgame2645 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@PersonallyPerhaps7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that’s way to too true. I blast out laughing.
@user-hc1it3yr8b6 ай бұрын
You don't need to be a superhero to figure that out
@alexandruulesan7009 Жыл бұрын
Sidelining Adrien and ignoring the Sentimonster plot are inexcusable issues. But despite those, the action rocks!
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
Ignoring it cause they never planned it, the sentimonster theory was a fan theory the show decided to tease for no reason since it makes no canonical sense.
@lm659 Жыл бұрын
@riotkitty No its been confirmed they are sentis. They were created by using the broken peacock miraculous, which is why in the end Adrien said he felt free, his existence was tied to the ring. The play confirmed it too
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
@@lm659 please they ignored it even though it’s technically canon, basically breaks any form of coherency the show had left. Nobody really cares at the end either. What did it bring? Nothing.
@lm659 Жыл бұрын
@riotkitty tell me about it. MLB is the queen of adding interesting stuff to the show just to do nothing with it, example Luka knowing their identities, the celestial guardian, etc.
@user-hc1it3yr8b6 ай бұрын
I always believe you should never akumatize a person's brain nor heart because the energy inside a the butterfly is poisonous to humans and could kill them
@nobody2996 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love how Nathalie is hobbling about, wasting away, practically on her death bed and Gabe still thought he needed to transform and use the strength boost to knock something out of her hand. Surprised you didn't mention how Marinette types out a whole text to tell Chat Noir where she is, who Monarch is and what's going on and then just... Doesn't send it. Nothing interrupts her, nothing is rushing her, she just suddenly decided to stop. Because the script told her she can't cause the reveal even indirectly I guess.
@julial4569 Жыл бұрын
Right? At that point she had no reason not to press send!
@captainchaos5705 Жыл бұрын
I mean with him transforming this time I think it was more the surprise factor. He's still human, so he's not moving fast enough to stop her before she fires the crossbow.
@kamilslup7743 Жыл бұрын
@@Libby_cas eh gabriel is also dying due to the cataclysm in season 5 episode 3 so yeah
@TrackerBase10 ай бұрын
Could you IMAGINE if the way Adrien finds out Monarch's identity is through a TEXT?!?!?! On today's episode, we're gonna try and make the season 5 finale as bad as we can possible make it. Obviously the way they did it was stupid, with him not even finding out.
@user-hr1mb8tx3b Жыл бұрын
The Owl House season 3 got cut, and managed to create a better finale than a show which has 5 seasons…
@alithamoonay Жыл бұрын
Damn it yeah..... :(((((❤❤❤❤❤
@ChocolateLoveKitten Жыл бұрын
Gravity Falls only had two seasons, yet managed to create a finale that was leagues better than this show that had drawn out for way too long..
@kou7191 Жыл бұрын
Because both The Owl House and Gravity Falls had the plot planned out from the start and knew how to accomodate, whereas the Miraculous team most definitely made things up on the spot and as they went, no matter how much Astruc denies it.
@ChocolateLoveKitten Жыл бұрын
@@kou7191 Oh, the making things up on the spot definitely kept showing in both S4 & S5 (especially the latter). So much retcons that these two seasons alone showed that absolutely nothing was planned from the start. I will never be convinced that Asstruc actually had plans to even do the Sentimonster theory.
@kou7191 Жыл бұрын
@@ChocolateLoveKitten Seasons 4 and 5 are essentially a soft reboot, and it shows.
@shankira9391 Жыл бұрын
I hate how the writers ALWAYS forget what kinda plot they did in other episodes. Like why the hell did Ladybug Not attack Gabriel directly After the episode befor the Final???
@user-hr1mb8tx3b Жыл бұрын
I remembered in the season 4 finale part 1 Risk, it ended with Adrian finding the advanced eye lens piece that Felix dropped, then hears a loud noise from Strikeback which distracted him from seeing the information that Félix saw. And according to my memory, this plot point never comes back again…. Let me know if I remember things wrong…
@shellyappiah Жыл бұрын
@@user-hr1mb8tx3bWell we see the eyelense later but not with Adrien Gabe found it I think and gave it to Tsurugi in ep19
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
@@user-hr1mb8tx3bso um yea they forgot about it
@vflowersimp Жыл бұрын
I swear I’ve read smutty fan fiction written by 12 years olds that’s better than the finale
@littlesparrow303 Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂True!! Even I wrote better storylines of different ships for Marinette than the show couldn’t do for Adrientte
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
True
@GoofyAhhBoxy Жыл бұрын
I bet a 6 year old can think of a better finale on the spot 🤦♀️
@passarovoador6662 Жыл бұрын
Adrien being lied to by Marinette is so ironic Guess Lila wasn't that different from her
@sabine1285 Жыл бұрын
no way you are comparing them 😭
@florinaslan5482 Жыл бұрын
Aye
@kainightshade5033 Жыл бұрын
🙄🙄here y'all come with the worst takes ever. Do I really need to explain how her keeping this secret is a product of Gabriel's manipulation and how this is obviously a set up plotline for S6 or can you figure that out yourself??
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
@@kainightshade5033 Which makles her a horribl partner and person. Is the tak away that marinette is stupid and horrible. If thats intended it makes marinette even worse and a bad partnr, again.
@eshaba584 Жыл бұрын
@@kainightshade5033To be honest ,I wish you were true.But some long time ago it was revealed in the bible that adrien is never going to know that his father was shadowmoth,hawkmoth,monarch ect.
@Orkprof Жыл бұрын
Among the MANY subplots that were dropped without an explanation: why on Earth did Gabe and Tomoe want SO STRONGLY for their children to be a couple? To what end? WHYYY!? Not only isn't it ever explained, but Tomoe drops the thing without making a scene in the end.
@luciacamacho444 Жыл бұрын
That's very, VERY sadly not surprising given both families are filthy rich. Political marriage for the sole reason of economically beneffiting the families without caring about the opinion of the people they're forcing to get married against their will. Nothing more, nothing less.
@maxchristopher4352 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, i mean maybe it will be explained in action.
@ysarmestr9198 Жыл бұрын
Nobody's going to realize that the Alliance rings made by Gabriel and Tomoe sudently transformed people around the world in zombies. And nobody isn't going to ask any question.
@luciacamacho444 Жыл бұрын
@@ysarmestr9198 During Miss Mustier's interview at the end of Re-Creation, she mentioned that "the Alliance rings hijacked by Monarch had been made into a statue of the Great Gabriel Agreste". In other words, the world believes Monarch merely hijacked the rings, unaware that both Gabriel and Tsurugi were the ones who truly turned everyone into zombies.
@ysarmestr9198 Жыл бұрын
@@luciacamacho444 Oh thanks i missed this part !
@siroreo717 Жыл бұрын
One thing I will give them props for is the action was so well choreographed. The angles and the attack methods all seemed so much more interesting than the usual hit and restrain.
@rattaniusprattanious Жыл бұрын
The action was the only reason I like both episodes
@ramirezproductions08267 ай бұрын
I agree. That and the voice performances were the only good things about this finale.
@snooker7107 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe they did this. Do the writers even know their own characters? As a day 1 fan since 2015 I am so dissapointed. The potential the show had was just wasted, since season 3.
@DanielSeacrest Жыл бұрын
Ive been a fan since 2017 as well but ive enjoyed it since S3. S1-3 was just so repetitive and with S4 and S5, there was just a lot more going on and there was actual plot movement atleast, and it felt like the story was atleast going somewhere (to me any movement is better than none really lol). I mean there was some plot development during seasons 1-3 but it was just so painfully slow, and i mean really slow. But to be fair i did see the finale months ago when the story board was leaked so ive been prepared for this for ages now lol, and im kinda fine with it. Some people are disappointed, like, Adrien really isn't in the finale, but im not. If Cat Noir / adrien was there, then it wouldn't have be reasonable for him to forgive Garbiel though, which i guess is fine, but it would just take all his innocence away. And it would of been a big burden for adrien over the next couple of seasons, and that would of been hard to see as well.
@snooker7107 Жыл бұрын
@@DanielSeacrest The problem i have with season 4 and 5 is that they retcon so many things from the previous seasons. It almost feels like the first 3 sesaons are useless and just a waste. I also don't think season 4 and 5 is well written on its own. MLB just has too many characters and they basically don't know how to maintain a plotline throuout a season in a satisfying way.
@Aria_Dragonneel Жыл бұрын
@@snooker7107 I agree, and honestly feel like they’re actually trying to compete Miraculous with the likes of Marvel and DC. Because they added time travel, and all the characters too. Its just a lot. Like… this isn’t endgame.
@tdninternet9916 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. I've enjoyed this show up till Season 2. Season 3 is the start of everything falling apart. This show's potential was near completely wasted.
@meduzsazsa8490 Жыл бұрын
Why Season 3?
@tienland396 Жыл бұрын
Adrien, Felix and Kagami could have done something in the finale lmao. Where is Chat Noir? Adrien find out his father is Monarch and his reaction after surely more interesting than that stupid sympathy of Marinette.
@ERinna_05 Жыл бұрын
Adrian is gonna remember him as a hero...
@Doomzdeh10 ай бұрын
Felix and Kagami legit warn Marinette who Monarch is and then dip. Kagami had a bit of an excuse because she is locked up without a miraculous, but where is Felix in all of this? Why isn’t he jail breaking Adrien and Kagami? Why isn’t he revealing to Adrien who Gabriel is and what’s probably happening? It could’ve been an amazing subplot that would carry the episode when Marinette and Gabe aren’t onscreen! Have Adrien confide in Felix and Kagami and have all of them rush to help Marinette. Maybe before that include Kagami confronting her mom, revealing she knows how she has helped Monarch, and them all defeating and exposing her before locking her up in one of the white rooms. I didn’t even watch Season 5 and yet I’ve legit crafted a better ending after 10 seconds of thought than the writers did after years. Maybe have Gabriel about to defeat Marinette and take her miraculous, only for Chat Noir to show up and cataclysm the ground, dropping them all into Monarch’s Lair where Adrien has a mental breakdown due to Emilie’s body and the implications hitting him. Have them all hang up on Gabe and actually have a semblance of some emotion there with the Sentimonster plot. Something!
@33pandagamer Жыл бұрын
I am so upset. Adrien is the one who has the most connection to the plot, it's his father that's the villain, it's him who would be the most affected by the final battle, and yet he's shafted! This is utterly ridiculous. He should be there! The story's climax should be Adrien finally being able to stand up to his father, and with Marnette's help, finally defeat Hawk Moth. He's the one out of all of the characters in the entire show who has the most at stake here.
@junkyuseum Жыл бұрын
They really keep neglecting Adrien 😢
@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Astruc, if you don’t know what you’re doing, keep your hands off the show!
@PersonallyPerhaps7 ай бұрын
But remember the writing of this season is shit you can’t have something good he can’t be involved.
@PersonallyPerhaps7 ай бұрын
@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112He should have done that a while ago.
@PiotrekDuncan7885 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the meaning of Adrien's character. If this was supposed to be a ladybug and Chat Noir story then why do they keep knocking Adrien off the sidelines. Hell, it was supposed to be the finale of the main plot and one of the main characters, who in theory is "an essential part of the story" is omitted. This is comical because in the sand boy episode it is shown that he is afraid of isolation. Logically, it is him in this situation who should burst a vein and get out of the cell with Cataclysm, thinking whether the father will know his identity or not. Instead, they prefer to leave him in the bunker and let Mari do all the work. By the way, Marinette should keep the cat ring, she handles it really well and they really did a good job with the costume design. It's just a pity that it shows how much Adrien's character is redundant here.
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Жыл бұрын
Because Thomas asstruc can't handle Marinette not being the center of attention. I swear if I ever meet Thomas asstruc. I'm going to maim him.
@PiotrekDuncan7885 Жыл бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll They would do themselves a favor if they dropped Chat Noir from the title since they have no intention of giving him a role at all.
@hannahemilia5512 Жыл бұрын
Adrians description : a boy who is in love with marisue
The writing of this show is so garbage, it’s like every season has different writers. The chat noir we grew to know and love from s1-2 has basically been character assassinated to an extra. Ever since he started dating marinette he became a stale and dispensable character
@phantomknight5728 Жыл бұрын
I think the whole thing with Ladybug and Chat Noir kidnapping Adrien and Kagami was ultimately a way to still show us the big bad plan while making it age appropriate for the child audience. Ultimately what the plan was, was plaguing the world with their worst nightmares. Then, the Alliance rings offer an antidote/solution that will make the nightmares (which are shown to cause the characters actual pain) go away completely. Afterwards, Gabriel takes away the antidote and everyone has to endure the nightmares once again. Then Gabriel pretty much tells everyone who is suffering from the rings that "I can make the pain and nightmares go away, all you need to do is say this phrase," and they turn into a what is equivalent to Monarch henchmen. I feel like people don't give credit to how dark this plan really is. Its almost like taking substances away from addicts and offering to give them back, but only if they do what you want.
@aniiinerd Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was one of the very few things that I actually liked about the finale, that Gabe was smart for a second and made an actual plan (although it could have been Tsurugi’s plan).
@stefaniarusso Жыл бұрын
@@aniiinerdagree
@hwtvi3466 Жыл бұрын
As much as I’d like to give that theory the benefit of the doubt, the writing in this show is nowhere NEAR smart enough to pull that kind of symbolism off lol 😂
@hannahbarley61 Жыл бұрын
Marionette was the worst in this finale: -she was more worried about Adrian than the world possibly ending -lied to Adrian telling him that Gabriel helped defeated monarch instead of telling him that he was monarch -revealed her identity in front of a supervillan -didn't suddenly click what kagami's and felix's story said about monarch being Gabriel then when she told him that she said it was because of luck (cough cough plot convience) -tried sympathising with Gabriel while de transformed I don't usually hate Marionette but my god she was an idiot in this whole finale
@amesstarline5482 Жыл бұрын
Mari shaming on Chloe revealing her identity to a villain, while later doing so herself, seems extra bad.
@isabellefuoss9737 Жыл бұрын
Hate to say it but marionette has been like this since day one I can’t count the amount of times she put the city in danger in favour of adrien
@dewereldvansamenta4731 Жыл бұрын
Marinette*
@dewereldvansamenta4731 Жыл бұрын
@@amesstarline5482No, Chloe fr teamed up and did for fame💀 Mari had to because gabe already figure out💀 watch the show
@littlesparrow303 Жыл бұрын
@@_MyNameIsAJ_yep!! Also Gabriel knew she was inside so that’s how he was able to put 2 & 2 together
@Lia-0888 Жыл бұрын
I feel like marinettes dream was so… unserious? Like I thought her WORST NIGHTMARE would have to do with monarch taking their miraculous and having her identity expose but no… it was just adrien getting captured… like I feel like that could’ve been so much more intense. Also imagine how good a fight scene between cat noir and monarch could’ve been? And they could’ve discovered each other’s identity’s and THEN maybe he gives the cat miraculous to ladybug to fight gabriel. Then at least he could still be in the finale… and adrien would be traumatized for all of season 6 but it would be such a good topic for later episodes and would make them more interesting
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
She had a worse nightmare in the sentibubbler episode than here. S4 ep 14(I think it was 14)
@frap4506 Жыл бұрын
Adrien sidelined. I thought felix and kagami would have more role. It feels super rushed. Disappointed that adrien didnt even get to fight monarch and learn his identity. Its so funny how chill everyone was that emily is back and doesnt even get a speaking line. Its so weird. Dont like that they made gabriel a hero, even made a statue, its so unreal
@33pandagamer Жыл бұрын
I think Gabe might have won... (I haven't seen the finally so I just guessing here)
@frap4506 Жыл бұрын
@@Libby_cas oh i thought his wish was to bring back his wife back to life, since he said something about adriene needing his mom and nathalie
@frap4506 Жыл бұрын
@@33pandagamer nooo u will get spoiled
@frap4506 Жыл бұрын
@@Libby_cas in hindsight it makes more sense it would be amelie and thats why there was no dramatic reaction to her presence
@peach_tea0 Жыл бұрын
I've have this whole list of grievances about this whole thing and it's like ridiculously long so I'm not expecting anyone to seriously read it but basically: EDIT: After watching the movie I am also disappointed because it wasn't the best either. Still better than the show but the pacing was very off. I guess they did the best they could with the short runtime they had but also maybe if there wasn't so many songs (I knew it was a musical I just didn't realize the plot would be sidelined so much) it could have felt a little less rushed. But anyway TLDR: Adrien didn't need to be a sentimonster to flesh out his story and character as he already had a controlling father and identity issues, and making him one was lazy and cheap and undermined his entire character as dispensable. The whole finale and how Gabriel just got a free pass and Adrien knowing literally nothing was cheap and crappy writing and this finale just proves the show has lost all of its original appeal. In my mind the Miraculous show is the alternate universe and the upcoming movie is the true story/universe because the show has just become so cheap and underdeveloped. (EDIT: still like the movie better but the pacing issues made it disappointing and not as enjoyable as I was expecting) (My whole essay I wrote to vent my frustration more than anything) Still hate that the Adrien being a sentimonster thing ended up being canon, I'd be fine if it was just Felix and Kagami but it makes Adrien even more of a side character than he was before, he doesn't even have complete free will now as a normal human being, freedom had always been something he struggled with but that was just his overbearing father, they didn't need to make Adrien a controlled nonhuman being to flesh out that plot point. If they just actually wrote the storyline well they could have had a more satisfying conclusion with him and Gabriel, but nope it's just "oH hE'S bEeN a sEnTiMoNsTeR aLl aLoNg" His character feels like it was purposely made to be inferior to Marinette's in every way, he wasn't even a part of the final battle and Marinette gives him the rings and is like "you have all free will now" and yet proceeds to keep the two most important pieces of information about him to herself, one that he's a sentimonster and two that his father was actually Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth/Monarch all along. But nope let's just not tell him all that and let him live the lie that his father was actually a good person and like sure let's just erase everything Gabriel did because he "sacrificed" himself, which he only did it at the very end when he sacrificed Adrien himself multiple times and showed little to no care for him at all. But in like two minutes he decided "nah" and just dipped and apparently that's supposed to be heroic. Also, Marinette now even more has this superiority complex where she just knows everything and has all the responsibilities and yet Chat Noir/Adrien is supposed to be considered her "equal" despite constantly being kept in the dark and being treated as nothing more than a plot device for Marinette. And the fact that they still have not explained how Emilie and Gabriel got the butterfly and peacock miraculous in the first place, how the latter got damaged. They never fleshed out Natalie's story and how she came to work for the Agrestes and why she was so loyal and infatuated with Gabriel, and did it even say if she made it or not?? Like did she just die?? And if that woman in the finale is actually Emilie and Gabriel traded his life for hers, but all Adrien knows is that "Gabriel died fighting against Monarch" how does that explain Emilie's sudden reappearance?? Like Marinette really gonna walk in and just be like "oh yeah by the way your mom's just here now" and Adrien's just gonna be like "ok cool 😊" And the fact that Gabriel never found out that his son was Chat Noir (in the ACTUAL timeline) was SUCH a missed plot point that we'll never get to see now because they were lazy and cheap and didn't want to put in the effort for actual good writing (But what else is new) The Adrien/Chat Noir we grew to know and love from the early seasons seems like a completely different person in comparison to what he is now, stale and dispensable with no attributes of his own but rather used as a plot device all together. Chat Noir and his playful and vibrant personality is barely even existent anymore, instead replaced with the lifeless shell of Adrien that is just dull and whose entire character now revolves around "is a sentimonster." Adrien's identity crisis was already set up and believable, they didn't need to add this. He was already in a controlling household, and that was just shown to be Gabriel's nature throughout the whole show, Adrien was expected to be perfect and it could have been simply because Gabriel wanted the absolute best for his son after Emilie's disappearance, but with his grief he became controlling and went about it in all the wrong ways. Adrien finally had freedom as Chat Noir, where there was no expectations or standards to measure up to, he could just be free to find himself and be who he wanted. That was what made him such a compelling character, but instead of nourishing that growth and development they just threw the "he's a sentimonster" thing to explain everything, and now he'll never truly be able to have it because he now has the possiblity of being controlled by someone else as soon as a ring falls into the wrong hands. And if that ring is denounced he just simply ceases to exist. And you can't even tell me that this was their plan all along because it wasn't, there was nothing that indicated that they were planning this the whole time until the theories started rolling in and they started taking the "Adrien is a sentimonster" route. They ran out of ideas themselves. I mean just look at all the filler eps and how people's character development *cough cough CHLOE* just got tossed aside, they didn't know what else to do so they relied on the fandom to do it for them, they just went along with whatever was popular theory-wise so they would attract more people to the show, and they just went with it instead of actually focusing on making a good story. I mean to be quite honest though, if you asked me what character had any substantial growth or development at all, I would have to say none, because there just wasn't, I mean take this finale for example where Gabriel didn't better himself or change at all, just disappeared, where Adrien's own development was tossed aside so they could take the easy way out and just call him a "sentimonster" instead, or even way back when, when Chloe started to have development but they just threw it out for literally no reason. (What's even funnier about that is that that whole arc and time of the show was really the best it ever was and where it had the highest potential, and it was when Astruc was not currently working on the show and Jeremy Zag took over, hmm I wonder why the movie seems so much better than the show 🤔) The writing of this show became so garbage, and it really is sad because I remember watching the first seasons of this show when I was much younger and being so excited at where this was going to go, only for it to end up like this. If they just worked harder on actually writing well and fleshed out the characters, this could have been so much better. From what I've seen of the Miraculous movie produced only by ZAGTOON, it is everything that this concept could have been and should have been, with actual time, effort, and passion being put in to make a good story that doesn't need to have cheap plot twists and drama to keep it going. (EDIT: the movie actually wasn't the best, still better than the show but disappointing)
@paulinagabrys8874 Жыл бұрын
This☝️
@romus1299 Жыл бұрын
it is annoying how many fans wanted Adrian to be a sentimonster and I heard some of them saying that if he wasn't it would be as bad as Chloe failed redemption.
@julial4569 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting your thoughts into words. These things are exactly what I think, and I still want to add more
@moonie6801 Жыл бұрын
Round of applause. Excellent. 👏👏👏 You are absolutely correct.
@exoticeditz8863 Жыл бұрын
Everything you said is absolutely correct. The writing of miraculous feels more like watching a soap opera rather than a fleshed out show planned from the beginning. My theory is the show was not initially intended to be taken seriously; just like any other kid’s superhero show like pj masks. Miraculous is literally rated pg though so idk who they were trying to target in the first place. Back in s1 I would argue the show was way too repetitive/lacklustre for an audience of kids 8-12
@Saturday6981 Жыл бұрын
Nathalie was as usual the main event here…, WOW, so good
@docfox4353 Жыл бұрын
If I ever feel bad about my own writing skills, I just remind myself that I don’t work on Miraculous.
@user-hr1mb8tx3b Жыл бұрын
Gabe’s ending is so unsatisfying, he got away with everything and faced no consequences, and even get to become a hero…and the sacrifice scene didn’t hit me at all, because I have no idea what Gabe and Emily’s relationship is like, I don’t understand why after everything Ladybug said he still wanted to make the wish, it felt like he just didn’t want to face the consequences of his actions, so decided to commit suicide.
@user-hr1mb8tx3b Жыл бұрын
Just look at Amphibia, the villain, Andrias, also did a lot of terrible things, but has a redemption that made sense, and it’s able to make me tear up, and he still faced consequences in the end.
@Carossmo Жыл бұрын
@@user-hr1mb8tx3b Amphibia, better writting I guess
@havidikevidi Жыл бұрын
He still wanted to make the wish, but he changed his mind after Mari showed him the video of Emilie. His original wish was for them to live happily together, but he changed his mind and decided to save Nathalie instead so that Adrien doesn't end up alone. He would've died either way, so i don't think he did it just so he wouldn't face any consequences. However, i don't think they should've made him seem like a hero.
@user-hr1mb8tx3b Жыл бұрын
@@havidikevidi You do have a good point, but the writers really could’ve done better. Your right, even if Gabe didn’t make the wish, he would still die, but we didn’t know exactly when he’ll die, so the writers could’ve had him making up some of his mistakes, "think and work out a solution on our own human scale" like Marinette said (I love the line by the way), he could’ve done something to at least try to make things better, like apologizing to Adrian or anyone, at least let anyone knows he’s Monarch. And after he dies, Adrian would still have Marinette, so he wouldn’t be alone… Emile didn’t really need to be revived… just look at what the writers did, they used the wish to revived Emile, and Emile didn’t even had any lines after the wish scene, and the wish also leads to many complicated questions.
@havidikevidi Жыл бұрын
@@user-hr1mb8tx3b i mean yeah, they could've made him do everything you said, but honestly, would that be a satisfying ending? He would still get redeemed without consequences. I think he should've done something like that but with no one forgiving him, just acknowledging that he did it. Also, is it Emilie tho? My first thought was that it's just a bait because if Felix is there, of course Amelie would be too. Because we only know about one life he traded - his own, for Nathalie's.
@fluffystar1 Жыл бұрын
I liked this episode apart from the fact that Adrien wasn't in it! The worst thing about this finale was this was the best season in my opinion, but it has been ruined by poor writing decisions. 😔
@-Donald_Duck- Жыл бұрын
I agree with you.
@CaptainvonDore Жыл бұрын
You like an episode which frames an abuser as a hero? I respect opinions but this is too far.
@fluffystar1 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainvonDore I don't like episode 26. In fact, I absolutely hate episode 26. It was disgusting and disappointing what happened at the end of that episode but episode 25 (the episode he's talking about in THIS video) is alright other than the fact that Adrien isn't there. :) Sorry for making you misunderstand.
@CaptainvonDore Жыл бұрын
@@fluffystar1 oh! OK. Sorry.
@yashenumulla4068 Жыл бұрын
@@fluffystar1 The only thing i love about episode 26 is that the action sequence and banter rocked and the revealed forms of Tikki and Plagg was sick, like they were so cool and beautiful but creepy and scary at the same time.
@arohamumberry7324 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the child abusing terrorist who has attempted to kill children is redeemable cause he misses his wife, but the 14 year old bully who was emotionally abused is pure evil.
@Psychoticbiaxch Жыл бұрын
Didn't Adrien freak out when his mother SUDDENLY came back to life!??
@ReportMm2HackersorTeamers Жыл бұрын
frrr and they didn't even bother to make a mini ladybug box they used the old one
@MiyuKawasaki Жыл бұрын
It might have been amelie
@AptMantis2278 Жыл бұрын
Unless gabe made fake memories for everyone of her still being around
@Psychoticbiaxch Жыл бұрын
@@MiyuKawasakithe script confirmed that it's Emilie
@MiyuKawasaki Жыл бұрын
@@Psychoticbiaxch Didn't the script say something like marinette fuses the two miraculous and make a wish or something? I read the whole script back then but wasn't expecting at all that gabriel would win
@RelanTheMan Жыл бұрын
Question for y’all: is this finale worse than Miracle Queen? It’s arguably the most divisive one, since I’ve seen people say they love it, and others hate it
@langdonledwig3734 Жыл бұрын
I hate Miracle Queen honestly
@Psychoticbiaxch Жыл бұрын
@@langdonledwig3734same
@buttdonalds1141 Жыл бұрын
I don't think any finale will be worse than miracle queen
@RelanTheMan Жыл бұрын
All right, just wanted clarification
@autumn3686 Жыл бұрын
They both bad, but miracle queen still takes the cake for me.
@swifttoplay3047 Жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest I’m more excited for the possible falling apart of zag and all the employees going “ya no, we did NOT support this story line”
@zoxxe Жыл бұрын
what´s worse is that the writers justify chat noir not being in the ultimate fight against gabriel by saying that it would end like chat blanc when the purpose of that episode was to show that there´s a right moment for everything, and the circumstances of the finale were different to the ones in chat blanc, the characters had gone through different experiences and developed so it doesn't make any sense why they left adrien out when it was his battle to fight
@havidikevidi Жыл бұрын
Tbf we all know how Adrien is like and if he found out he's the reason his father was about to die (plus the fact that he was monarch), it would definitely break him to the point he wouldn't even be able to do anything.
@Doomzdeh10 ай бұрын
@@havidikevidi Still would’ve been better than him not even being there. I guess the writers would just hate having some actual emotion in the finale to justify Gabriel’s sudden personality switch
@pumbhax7 ай бұрын
Gabe has said multiple times he's doing this all for his son. If he saw Chat Noir was Adrien, I don't think he would have reacted like he did in Chat Blanc. The writers make it seem like Gabe has empathy and feelings, and actually kind of redeem him at the end. Then they make him seem like a monster whenever he finds out Chat Noir is his own son. I wish it would be like the movie where he'd actually realize he was wrong and he was hurting his son more than helping him.
@Terutsu Жыл бұрын
To be honest, First part of the finale made me lose some brain cells, but animation saved it. Solid 5/10
@randomviewer8756 Жыл бұрын
I swear the show is like a dumpster fire but you just cant look away
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 Жыл бұрын
@@randomviewer8756The only reason I’m still watching it honestly. Sunken Cost Fallacy. Also Plagg. Still love Plagg.
@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s so bad it’s good at the same time, a little bit of both. It’s a 5/10 for the finales in season 5. But for season 6, they better do better! Even though season 5’s finale made me mad, I never lost hope for the show.
@AngelA-mk5ty11 ай бұрын
I give it some leeway this is pretty much the only animated show france has produced that has a story arc they don't have a history of animated tv series with an overarching plot.
@Terutsu11 ай бұрын
@@AngelA-mk5ty France had some good animated shows, Code Lyoko or Wakfu for example
@Isaangie Жыл бұрын
It's a bit off topic but ... some of you remember when Marinette didn't have any problem to travel and find Adrien around China with her skills, so how didn't she come out with the same idea when he went to London? I've already watched the entire season but still it's confusing for me, why this kind of plot convenience happens whenever the protagonist is involved in the actual main plot (sorry for my broken english, it isn't my native language :v)
@Vocal0idSupermacy_gumimiku Жыл бұрын
Miraculous has more plot holes than plot points now
@julial4569 Жыл бұрын
All of these points in the comments are so valid that someone needs to make a list of plot holes
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
@@Vocal0idSupermacy_gumimikufr
@livsouth8503 Жыл бұрын
also ayo, am i the only who felt like the relaxation app thing on the rings was like a metaphor for drugs and peer pressure? like come on, they were all super out of it holding out rings to her saying "come on just try it it" "it will make you feel better" "soooo relaxing" and stuff like that, even though she was saying no, no no and was clearly uncomfortable and didn't want it, beffore she eventually caved and gave in to peer pressure. idk maybe it was just me, but like as someone who has been in a similar situation where stuff has been offered to me, it just felt really metaphorical lmao.
@mynormoran3201 Жыл бұрын
so I wasn’t the only one!! I felt that throughout the episode and how everyone was just outta it. Gave me shivers
@livsouth8503 Жыл бұрын
@@mynormoran3201 literally!
@randompeanut1156 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize this before. But wow. That comparison makes sense.
@Harumi27282 Жыл бұрын
It's drug rings
@areeba7045 Жыл бұрын
tomoe is a drug trafficker confirmed
@borikidor Жыл бұрын
The amount of wrong things in the episode is so large. But i am gonna be petty about it a and say that the worst part about it is, that Gorilla didn't get to do anything. How cool would it be if he got the turtle miraculous and fought against Monarch.
@courtneyridgedell639 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@mine_neko Жыл бұрын
Agree
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll Жыл бұрын
Dude! That would be sick! 🤔😎
@user-hr1mb8tx3b Жыл бұрын
I wish we could know more about Emile, it’s been 5 seasons and I barely know her, why would I even care if she gets revived or not…
@quemahehe Жыл бұрын
We probably will know more about her in season 6
@pumbhax7 ай бұрын
@@quemahehe Why? The Agreste arc is over. Emilie was Gabriel Agreste's motivation. There is no reason the learn about her this late.
@poransuki8203 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see some normal-minded people here. When I watched the Part 2 finale (rather skimmed through) there were some comments like “It's good that Gabe made the right thing!”, “Finally he redeemed!“, “I'm so proud of him!“ like,…WHAT?? How can ANYONE see this as “good” act?? He is the villain and WON. He did EVIL things. Getting his wish was NOT an act of redemption… it would have been if he would give up on it…HE DIDN'T. HE CHOOSE SELF-INTEREST. How can people be so blind?
@DigiMax1337 Жыл бұрын
Because of how untouched on the sentikids thing has been my current theory is that Felix and Adrien are half sentimonsters. And that their eggs were created by the peacock miraculous (inside their mums) and then did the rest the normal way.
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest. I think the show wanted to tease because of the fans but never follow through cause it was never planned
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
That does makes a little sense and it's possible
@cassandrasunny7486 Жыл бұрын
i’m mad cause like we stayed 5 season believing that if gabriel got the miraculous the consequences would be terrible, that’s why they fought Hawk Moth but than he got his wish and the world was perfect? adrien and marinette became a happy couple and gabriel got a redemption, emilie was happy and alive LITERALLY JUST HAPPINESS SO WHY FIGHT AT ALL?? JUST GIVE HIM THE MIRACULOUS SO EVERYONE CAN BE HAPPY
@icannotstoptwinkling710 Жыл бұрын
Astruc: some people can’t be good like Chloe Meanwhile gabe:
@yesahumaniam730 Жыл бұрын
Okay, so after some exploring. Even though Adrien 1 - has the plot revolve around him or his family 2 - wields the power of destruction 3 - is ROYALTY!? 4 - MADE FROM MAGIC! 5 - AND HAS A SAD CHILDHOOD! HE ISN’T THE GODDAMN MAIN CHARACTER!? OR BARELY INCLUDED IN THE ENDING!?
@raahimali8803 Жыл бұрын
Season 1final: 9/10 Good intro Season 2 final: 8/10 Good hipe moments Season 3 final: 6/10 Could you do worse? Season 4 final: 10/10 Could have done better Season 5 final:-10/10 it could DIE in a mole's ass
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213 Жыл бұрын
Mole: Excuse you? Keep Astruc's crap out of my burrows pls
@HannahBananabreadpudding6 ай бұрын
Honestly the season 2 finale was absolute fire
@cocopops7945 Жыл бұрын
''EuGhH 💅🏻 NoO thanks Astruc he's ✨not✨ a tragic hero 🙄 he's a piece of sh*t 💅🏻'' really cracked me up lol but its so true i hope adrian is told the truth and Gabe/Tsurugi are punished...
@Two_andahalf_devil Жыл бұрын
I wanna see Adrien as Chat Noir tear down his statue
@zephyr5531 Жыл бұрын
There's also fact how the wish worked doesn't make sense. In Ephemeral Gabe call out unification of Tiki and Plagg but in the finale it was a ritual. So we basically were told that anyone who got hold of the miraculouses will get to make a wish but actually you need to know a ritual which was haven't been mentioned ever. (This part is Spoiler of movie) The reveal and redemption of Gabriel on the movie made more sense than all of the S5 put together.
@papkinn Жыл бұрын
I don't want to be that person but fact male villain is redeemed and remembered as a hero despite being an adult criminal and abuser while teenage girls being mean are apparently "unredeemable monsters" who deserve to be abused by their parents as punishment is... very interesting writing.
@redr6107 Жыл бұрын
Maybe bcuz Gabriel has some sort of motiv while Chloe just wants to ruin everything for everyone for fun???
@papkinn Жыл бұрын
@@redr6107 almost like Chole is a child and Gabriel is an adult who actively choose to abuse his son among many causing long lasting trauma by forcing him to kill in one timeline and suggesting he would do indirect SA (by forcing him and Kagami to be a couple against their will in the finale) not to mention thousands of people he killed what Ladybug's reversing powers doesn't make any less monstrous. Do i even have to start with him directly targeting and brainwashing kids as young as toddlers for his plans? Lmfao
@redr6107 Жыл бұрын
@@papkinn the fact is that Ladybug gave Gabriel a second chance and he used it for good, as we can see from the happy ending. Chloe was given INFINITE chances and she only became worse and worse. Besides, regardless if Gabriel wins or loses the miraculous ladybugs fix everything, as we can clearly see cuz he did win and ppl still think Ladybug won. So..... yea.
@JuniorGustabo Жыл бұрын
Chloe deserves to be part of a better show.
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Gabriel is also a terrorist that tried to start the WW3 in the NY special
@everythinggirly916 Жыл бұрын
*Smarty Pants:* It plays out like a bad fanfiction. *Me:* Nah. It plays out exactly as you would expect from Miraculous.
@sunglory4488 Жыл бұрын
You see one of the main reasons that kept me watching the show for as long as I can remember is that I wanted to know how Adrien's life gonna be after realizing that his own father was the one he fought all along. But no he was in the background all the finale and being stucked there. At first I was so mad that how they could let this go.. This was the exact thing that kept me interested in the show for years. But now I just can't get over the fact the Gabe just does not exist anymore. I'm sad. This was way too dark. Keeping your son in a prison like that. And umm.. Yeah I'm quite liking the idea of him being in the background. You see for a good plot for him realizing the truth so much work and plot building should have been done prior to the point. So what they did made sense to me. The plot building wasn't strong enough to support him finding out.
@33pandagamer Жыл бұрын
I mainly only watched Miracoulus because I liked Adrein/Cat Noir as a character. I liked how he was written in the earlier seasons, and I wanted to see how he would resolve his conflict with his father and finally gain true freedom. Sadly, they treat Adrein more like a side character than the actual side characters.
@sunglory4488 Жыл бұрын
@@33pandagamer and it gave me hope how it seemed like in the early season 5 EPs that he's finally gonna srand up for himself.. He's charecter really was written really well so much potential. It could be something that I could talk about and remember for years and yet he's not even there. Sometimes even side charecters such as Marcove has it better than him.
@skx7ecnerf535 Жыл бұрын
Yeah remember on Chat Blanc and Ephemeral where he finds out about his dad being the main Villian, and things definitely doesn't end well, so I really thought that keeping Adrien out of this is a contrast and probably the one that should've happen in order for the future to make sense(?) But again I'm still upset on why Marinette didn't figure out that Gabriel was Monarch after the Representation episode TwT
@darkron288 Жыл бұрын
Miraclous really has gone down hill for awhile, what was a fun slice of life superhero show with good characters, has become the adventures of a will they won't they with a stalker that have been releasing bad to okay episodes for the past 2 seasons. I miss old ladybug
@joeydoesstuff2142 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the first season in grade 1 and being so hyped because Rena rouge was gonna be in season 2. I think that miraculous could’ve been done in 3 seasons.
@joeydoesstuff2142 Жыл бұрын
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ I totally get where your coming from I think that the 5 seasons are necessary but I’m mad because the writing and animation got much worse
@meh.com.au1 Жыл бұрын
Something I hated was that there were SO MANY HEROES. I used think that Marinette and Adrien were special because they were the only ones doing the hero work. But now the there are heroes in Shanghai and New York. Also I honestly thought that Majestia (sorry if I spelt that wrong) was a comic book character when Alya brought it up in season 1. I also wish they were only 5 heroes those being Ladybug, Cat noir, Rena rouge, Carapace, and Queen bee. I wouldn't want them coming frequently just when they are really needed.
@joeydoesstuff2142 Жыл бұрын
@@meh.com.au1 YESSS I personally don’t have a problem with all the Paris hero’s and ladydragon but I absolutely HATE the New York ones. They were introduced for no reason. For a while I didn’t even consider New York episode cannon but now I have to because they appeared in the main show
@djinsanity3575 Жыл бұрын
FULL HARD REBOOT OF THIS SERIES...this show hurts my head
@angelicillo Жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed the finale. Not that it was amazing but because it was so out there. The entire time i was so confused with everything. Like why is adrien not here? Why is lila there? Why did natalie take so long to shoot Gabriel? Why did they still not reveal their identities yet?
@havidikevidi Жыл бұрын
Adrien was not there because he was still locked up in London. Lila is there because she was following them, her whole plan was to get the peacock miraculous. Nathalie was dying and very weak, and you do need certain strenght to actually shoot an arrow. And they might reveal either in the filler ep (i don't know what it will be about, i didn't see any spoilers), or possibly in s6. There wasn't any time left in the episode for that huge reveal.
@jedemu Жыл бұрын
I agree that this was not a good finale. 4/10 overall imo. My points for part 1: - Big shame that Adrien doesn't have anything to do at all with the finale. Huge waste. I don't mind Marinette/Ladybug getting the Cat Miraculous to face Gabe, but I would've loved for Adrien/Astrocat to be hidden somewhere in Paris (maybe he should've ran away for real instead of returning to London in the previous episode) and do something in part 2, like convincing his dad to give him freedom - Big waste that Marinette didn't talk with Alya when it comes to Felixs reveal. Instead of Mylene refusing to wear the Alliance ring and having to convince the friend group to take off their rings (and fail), it seems like that should've been Alyas job once she knows Gabe is Monarch and he made the rings - Weird that Gabe never used the charm and cataclysm wound before in any of his previous plans to track the heroes. He has those things for a while now, so why only use it now? In conclusion, this episode has a lot of wasted potential
@marknystrom1984 Жыл бұрын
I think at this point, miraculous ladybug is a dead franchise or a walking killed by its own creators... Just like what Darth Kennedy the Disastrous did to Star Wars, And now Indiana Jones.
@ninjabobby25 Жыл бұрын
16 minutes of smarty pants having a mental breakdown
@Acidfrog475 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even watch the show and I had a mental breakdown with him.
@CookieTaiga Жыл бұрын
Who wouldnt my god
@thechargedcreeper3967 Жыл бұрын
This is a really strange finale. If you'd take every two-parter of the show in isolation and try to evaluate all of them, this one might be the best. It has a lot of action, awesome cinematic cameras, a good plan from the villains for which they've actually been working instead of being opportunistic, and there were lots of deeper emotions from characters. Throughout it all you know that this is supposed to be more than your standard episode, heck, more than your standard finale. You know that whatever happens, it's going to seriously LAST. The main thing that I 100% don't like about it is the sudden ending and what followed. I'll not spoil anything else for the next episode, but since you already talked about Adrien's absence and Gabe's death, I'll throw in my two cents: The big final fight that's happening this episode is fantastic and a completely logical conclusion to the story, if you look at it from one perspective. Whether you like it or not, Hawk Moth, Shadow Moth and Monarch have been Ladybug's villain throughout all of the show. From the beginning of Origins it's her who declares she's going to take his Miraculous. It's she who has the power to purify Akumas and repair damage, undoing everything that Hawk Moth has done. He always curses her name at the end of an episode, even in those where he doesn't mention Chat Noir. And he stole the Miraculous that she was supposed to protect. Hawk Moth just hasn't really done anything against Chat Noir. In a sense, he's even helped him by allowing him an excuse to ditch his schedule and become his inner, free self whenever there's an Akuma to fight. Having Ladybug fight Monarch by using the Yin-Yang powers that he wants to steal, while he has all the other Miraculous of the Box at his disposal, just makes sense. It's the ultimate showdown, the two most powerful Miraculous in the Box, the only ones still in her possession, versus the rest of them in a fight to the death. It really works as the ultimate final showdown. Problem is, Monarch is Gabriel, and Gabriel is Adrien's villain. Gabriel has denied him a normal life from the very beginning of his existence. He withheld him from school, nano manages his schedule, denies him a relationship with the girl he loves, and he controls him using the wedding rings. For most of the show, Adrien has tried to become a normal boy with friends and hobbies instead of this mannequin who's to pose as his father wishes. Especially throughout this season, they've been building up to Adrien finally gaining true free will by standing up to his father. Now, here comes the problem. In a season that got kickstarted by Shadow Moth finally getting a victory over Ladybug, and where every episode shows the effects of this victory, it makes sense that they focus on the Ladybug vs Monarch angle in the finale. I think they've nailed the finale on this front. But when you have a death match and have Monarch actually die, you automatically remove any possibility of Adrien getting his version of this final fight with Gabriel. That's why this finale is good in an isolated form, and works rather well on a season level, but completely falls apart at the show level. As it stands now, Adrien will never be able to truly get any closure with his dad at all (unless they give him some moments with the good Gabe from that special or have Adrien engage in a reunion with him via a Kwagatama, both being imperfect solutions). My guess is that they've written the finale first, from the Ladybug vs Monarch perspective as I've described, thinking that it'd fit as an ending to season 5. But then they realised the part about the Adrien vs Gabriel conflict being unable to happen. Since they've already decided that they wanted Ladybug to unify both the Miraculous (maybe even already made the super expensive 3D model, this show's production is an absolute mess) and were already busy writing the episodes where Adrien leaving Paris was a big part of the plot, they decided to leave the finale in tact. The Adrien vs Gabriel conflict was instead being addressed in episode 24. Chat Noir is taking everything the Collector (real name escapes me at the moment) was saying way more personal than usual despite knowing that akumatized villains usually exaggerate their emotions. They keep talking about "how I wish you would act if you were my father/son" all the time, name calling and all that. The problem here is that they can't find out so as to not make it illogical with the finale, and now the impact is next to none. That's why they made it vague and short. Since this sequence now only takes up half an episode and can't feature too much of Ladybug, they needed to have Marinette do something else. They made the subplot of Feligami telling their origin story to Marinette, and decided to go with extreme vagueness and weird analogies when they realised that Felix's connection to the Agrestes would give it away. Then they were happy with the concept of the episode and moved on to work on other episodes. Some completely different writer looked through the episode, realised that Felix being too vague would detract from the message, and made it a little less vague. Problem is, this is now too clear of a message and the monkeys on typewriters that call themselves writers completely forgot why they wanted it to be so extremely vague. That last crack theory is the only reason how they managed to make stuff that's so good and so bad simultaneously
@KayterinMaimay Жыл бұрын
I genuinely liked the finale..- except for the fact that Gabriel’s seen as a hero, I agree with that. And Tsurugi going away is just no as well, other than that, the finale imo I loved it.-
@luiserodriguezserrano4287 Жыл бұрын
Yeah same, glad to see how everyone and I mean everyone joins in to help from the previous seasons and even the specials. Honestly Adrien should be the one to do the unifying
@KayterinMaimay Жыл бұрын
@@luiserodriguezserrano4287Yeah agreed, but I suppose that’s why they gave Cat noir the spotlight in ep 24-
@darkron288 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, in context the show is basically about a bunch of teenagers trying to stop a single grieving dad from reviving his wife,. I understand how SOME of the writers could see him as noble, its just.... the other writers have been bending over backwards to make him the most irredemable person. I feel like this finale was written back when gabe was still a complex character
@raahimali8803 Жыл бұрын
Haha, hate this final
@anidiot1122 Жыл бұрын
Same this was my favourite finale of the entire show
@marinacoelho22 Жыл бұрын
After this finale, it just feels like the writers used the Representation ep as an excuse to explain Gabriel's backstory to the viewers only. Really, because Marinette completely forgets the Felix's story and the sentimonster plot line isn't mentioned once (except right at the end of part 2 but it has no actual impact since Adrien knows fuck all about Monarch being his dad and that those rings control him).
@RedDeadSpider343 Жыл бұрын
So Gabriel get redeemed rather than being punish after he made the wish but not Chloe. I'm seriously getting sick of sympathy villains getting redemption because some of the actions are too unforgivable to become a reformed villain. Belos from the owl house who is the main villain in the serie, gets punishes for his cruelty and his genocidal plans of wiping all witches. How come the abusive parents get redeem like they don't deserve it because Gabriel neglected Adrian, keep him imprisoned and not hang out with his friends and he's does not get punishes since he's also responsible for turning people into supervillains just to get Ladybug and cat noir miraculous.
@ERinna_05 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Adrian will never know his dad was the villian and will remember him as a hero????
@julial4569 Жыл бұрын
Right? And that's after he put him into prison??? What
@ERinna_05 Жыл бұрын
@@julial4569 huh? No Gabriel died. But Adrian remembers him as the one who helped defeat Monarch not as Monarch.
@TheCattac Жыл бұрын
I already lost it when Gabe was like "now that our kids are save in London we can begin our plan" and proceeds to not keeping them save from the nightmare thing. Two minutes in and already had to cry laughing. What was even the point then??
@playererror4044 Жыл бұрын
I have stopped actually watching this show a long time ago, and by that I mean the second episode of season 5 which wasn't that long ago but sure feels it. Anyway, everything I hear about how Gabe is Handled is giving me major 'Severous Snape' vibes. Or 'Look that monster felt bad for his own mistakes, that makes him a hero despite years of emotional abuse, bullying and overall sucking 400 billion kinds of ass.' And I'm not okay with that. Also serioussly, is Adrient SERIOUSSLY! Left out of the final fight against Hawk Moth!?
@jemandd1123 Жыл бұрын
i really love this channel, its so hard to find anyone competent in this fandom
@redr6107 Жыл бұрын
Then you've found the wrong place cuz he hates the fandom lol
@adxrien Жыл бұрын
Adrien being the another main Protoganist should've gotten more scenes in finale, tbh his father is the monarch makes it way more convincing that he should be the one defeating monarch?!!!!
@usonohoshi6165 Жыл бұрын
Is it weird to say that this is the PERFECT finally for Miraculous? It just embodies the terrible hypocrisy (on top of just bad writing) the show has had for quite a while now.
@bookworm0859 Жыл бұрын
I have just completely given up on watching the show at this point. You are the only reason I know what is going on now, so thank you for suffering through this show.
@negrofuego960 Жыл бұрын
How I felt about it was really ridiculous. The writers started off with Marinette trying to find out who Hawk Moth was in the Collector episode but then hit a dead end. Not dealing with the storyline for a while. But then brought it back when it came to finale of Season 5. There's a lot of things about this show that has not been talked about. For instance, How did Natalie and Gabriel meet each other? Will Marinette ever tell Adrien she's the one who wrote the Valentine's day card to him? Will she ever talk about her past relationship with Kim? So many things like this haven't been talked about. And now since Gabriel is made his wish and disappeared? Adrien will never learn or know that his father was Monarch. I feel like in the next season or later on in the show, he's going to find out everything Marinette has been hiding or better yet his father's identity and the other miraculous holders' secret identities.
@shadymahe Жыл бұрын
The big problem of the finale is that 60% of the screemtime is devoted to either irrelevant fight scene or the Alliance grunts getting miraculized while it could be focused on Adrien/backstory about his past or to EXPLAIN what the wish was exactly! Because of tha the entire fandom is tearing apart 😒
@meesha6723 Жыл бұрын
I hate how literally every song character from every special had more development in the final than the son of mocarch himself. WHAT? I really hope Adrien finds out next season and like… idk gets akumatized and- breaks up with marinette for a bit causing her to get humbled 🥲 I saw this in a different comment but it would be cool if Lila was the one who told Adrien the truth of who monach is, what the wish was, about cat blanc and basically every lie told by marinette. I really need to see that. I also want to see Adrien in his villian arc, maybe he will work with Lila for a bit:0 Yeah probably not
@quemahehe Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure it will get revealed to Adrien in season 6. Which makes sense because otherwise they would’ve done it in season 5. And for the proof, the tablet Nathalie had was that she never stopped recording
@meesha6723 Жыл бұрын
@@quemahehe yeah I hope so That would be amazing I think for the next season, it will be zag writing everything so this season was astrucs last season I think I’m not 100 percent sure though lol
@quemahehe Жыл бұрын
@@meesha6723 yeah, it was said that for the rest of the series, Zag would write it, and I’m pretty pleased tbh. And there are many opportunities for this!
@meesha6723 Жыл бұрын
@@quemahehe yep! I have a feeling zag will not disappoint 😁
@just_for_fun2011 Жыл бұрын
I hate that they included EVERY SINGLE HERO except CATNOIR LIKE WHYYYYYYYYYY
@benjaminbrock684 Жыл бұрын
We all imagined over 1000 ways this story arc could end, and it was like nothing we expected.
@jamestolbert18563 ай бұрын
One of my biggest gripes with this show is how it sidelines Adrien and always gives Marinettw more screen time. His arc could’ve been the most compelling in the entire show, of standing up to his dad and recover from his abuse, and learn to be free from his sheltered lifestyle
@bobbydenney8368Ай бұрын
What you just said is how the finale should have ended
@clairemary3383 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching Miraculous Ladybug from season 1 knowing the ending would be satisfactory. I can't feel the satisfaction, I want more. I want to see Adrian go 1 on 1 with Gabriel and see Marinette brighter than portrayed or even hear Emily speak for half of the ending. I know I'm not the only one who wants this
@kiannielopez93 Жыл бұрын
I was so mad at the finale that Adrien got to do nothing with Gabe and defeating him.
@CheddarChesser Жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this review for a few days now. Now that its finally here i can finally watch something good lets gooooo
@randominternetperson8690 Жыл бұрын
Adrien being treated like a damsel in distress even though hes the second most important character along with being the one with the complexed relationship with his father💀what does marinette have to do with gabriel in order for it to be an emotional fight? nothing. shes just there to be Adriens night in shining armour and to just remind us that, in fact, adrien is still a relevant character and shes doing everything for him even tho he is not even there in the finale💀
@kylewilson2819 Жыл бұрын
So get this: According to anonymous sources close to Zag, the original ending of this season was a lot more simple: Adrien breaks out of London with the help of Felix and flies to Paris to assist in Ladybug defeating Monarch, thus revealing himself to Marinette and Gabriel as Chat Noir. There’s a large amount of Adrien angst as Gabe is revealed as Hawk Moth, and Gabe tries to control Adrien to take the Ladybug miraculous so he can revive Emilie. Ultimately, Adrien rejects Gabe’s mind control and refuses. Gabe goes to prison, Emilie is allowed to die in peace, and Natalie gives Adrien some comforting advice before passing away. Ultimately, Adrien gains his freedom but loses everything else, reinforcing the whole “There’s a price for every wish” narrative. Both him and Marinette are thoroughly traumatized, but find comfort in each other as the season ends. The last shot of the season is Lila finding the Butterfly Miraculous in the ruins of the Agreste Manor. So, why was this ending scrapped you might ask? Well, the studio that produces Miraculous Ladybug is based in Brazil, which has a very high crime rate. There were reportedly concerns from the studio execs that sending the main villain to prison would alienate kids in the Brazilian community who had parents sent to prison. In other words, the dumbest reason I’ve ever heard of. As a result, the original ending was scrapped in favor of a rushed redemption arc for Gabe. Adrien’s character arc was scrapped as well.
@Vocal0idSupermacy_gumimiku Жыл бұрын
The original ending sounds so good but we got this awful finale.
@kylewilson2819 Жыл бұрын
@@Vocal0idSupermacy_gumimiku The finale we got is definitely far worse than the original. What makes it worse is the bs reasoning from the studio. They went from a message of “The cost of obtaining freedom is very high but ultimately worth it.” To a message of “You should idolize your abusers because they have your best interests at heart…kinda sorta. And also you should lie to your best friend/lover about how his abusive father was ALSO a criminal mastermind who destroyed the universe and locked you up in a cage and tried to force you to marry a woman you didn’t love and move to a foreign country.”
@ForrestFox626 Жыл бұрын
So there was a good finale
@exoticeditz8863 Жыл бұрын
The original ending so much better. Imo they could’ve at least had gabe sent to a rehab facility or something 😂
@unstrungbeauty7208 Жыл бұрын
The original ending for s5 was better than the one we got, but it got scrapped for a dumb reason... that says a whole lot about this finale.
@Hosib Жыл бұрын
WAKE UP BABE, SMARTY PANTS UPLOADED
@dayschange24 ай бұрын
I agree that having Plagg seek out Alya only to be turned down was a great writing decision. I can see it also preventing a lot of from complaining that Plagg DIDN'T try to find a new user, especially since he had already talked about wanting to ask Alya to replace Adrien earlier in the season. But I have to admit I felt a little bad for him. He sounded so sad when Alya turned him down---at least in the french version of the show, which is what I watch.
@Sugarsoleil_uwu Жыл бұрын
I’m so pissed that Adrien/Chat Noir is NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING! Instead of being a partner and a capable hero he’s just made to be a damsel in distress. When literally the entire plot is everyone in the damn attests household yet Adrien isn’t even allowed to be informed at least. He’s just basically there for show while everyone else is more important than him. Damn this story is on thin strings at this point, the strings getting thinner each second
@itarmansour4364 Жыл бұрын
It made sense to me that Adrien / Chat Noir got sidelined- because the show has shown us million times that if Adrien learns the truth- he will get akumatized- and it will trigger the end of the world one way or another. Perhaps- the writers couldn’t think of any other scenario than what they already fed us.
@cartoonishidealism582 Жыл бұрын
That's literally the exact reason we SHOULD have gotten Adrien learning the truth! I mean, isn't this writing 101? The villain needs to almost win, things need to get to their darkest moment before the heroes triumph, or it isn't satisfying. The whole POINT of stuff like Chat Blanc and Ephemeral SHOULD have been to build up hype for the moment when Chat Noir FINALLY LEARNS THE TRUTH, and ALL SEEMS LOST, and then the heroes SOMEHOW DEFY THE ODDS AND SAVE THE DAY It SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN so the writers can literally avoid paying off one of, if not THE central conflict of the entire series. This is like if Avatar the Last Airbender was like _"Hmm, if Aang doesn't kill the Fire Lord, he will be allowing his evil to continue, but if he does kill the Fire Lord, he would be betraying his own philosophy... I know! Let's PUT AANG IN A PADDED CELL AND HAVE ALL THE OTHER CHARACTERS DEFEAT THE FIRE LORD INSTEAD! PROBLEM AVOIDED!"_
@FallenStar150 Жыл бұрын
Honestly that's complete fucking bullshit. We could've have a beautiful scene of Adrien as Chat Noir getting hit with the Akuma then gaining the power to resist it overcoming the trauma.
@Thesilentvoice... Жыл бұрын
@@cartoonishidealism582 I literally used a analogy similar to yours regarding adrien being missing in the finale. I said to another MLB fan who was defending adrien's absence, imagine if zuko didn't confront ozai in the day of black sun, but it be Iroh who did on zuko's behalf? That iconic scene would not be iconic and zuko's development would be trashed if that happened. Your analogy with the other charcaters fighting ozai for aang works just as well because it shows how this play out with adiren is flawed.
@CaptainvonDore Жыл бұрын
If anyone's wondering how bad Adrien and Kagami's London cell thingies are, Michael 'Vsauce' Stevens, a full grown adult, and probably one of the smartest and wisest youtuber, voluntarily went to similar scenario for ONE DAY, and almost lost his mind.
@fivestarmichelin_ Жыл бұрын
I just hope they start anew from this point. 💀 This is a chance for them to come back on track. Hope Thomas doesn’t ruin the whole thing again.
@sylphredo Жыл бұрын
Gladly he won’t be there in season 6 & 7
@randompeanut1156 Жыл бұрын
@@sylphredoHope for Chloe redemption restored
@haileykitty6993 Жыл бұрын
@sylphred5450 really? They finally blacklisted him? Please say it's true because if it is, the show is officially saved. 🥹
@alandoodles Жыл бұрын
@@sylphredo Wait really!? Huh, maybe things will change.
@TheAnonymouse558 Жыл бұрын
I was there to witness the ending to Star vs. the Forces of Evil. I'm pretty sure after THAT, even Ladybug can't possibly screw up their own ending to top it, right? ... Right?
@randompeanut1156 Жыл бұрын
Miracle Queen, Confrontation, and Re - Creation: 🚶🚶♀️🚶♂️💃🕺🪩
@xempororhxppyx11 ай бұрын
Cleaved is still worse to me
@edalynclawthorne5877 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so you’re telling me the finale was disappointing? Fuck I’m shocked, *shocked!* truly shocked. Seriously tho, this series threatened to go full bad Anime for most of season 5, I’m not surprised it finished right where it clearly wanted to
@tirramasu7948 Жыл бұрын
I honestly felt like this show is a waste of resources. 5 seasons‽ That's way too much for a simple story that could have been done in 2..
@edalynclawthorne5877 Жыл бұрын
@@tirramasu7948 oh absolutely. This series has a serious problem in writing the story it wanted to tell. But the reason behind it is that they never knew the story they wanted to write. It’s why different seasons take different focuses and directions out of seemingly nowhere
@tirramasu7948 Жыл бұрын
@@edalynclawthorne5877 Exactly, not to mention all that time modeling different villains every episode. Poor Marinette has to wear only one outfit every day 😭 If the series goal is to make money, why not make a collector doll and have different outfits
@kayleighg7511 Жыл бұрын
I don’t buy it that technology alone could have made these people so stupid, I’m convinced that the rings injected people and made them high. Also shooting Gabe earlier in the seasons could’ve worked since he was a known recluse and even Adrien (his own son!) could barely see him.
@belldec109-alex7 Жыл бұрын
Your reaction is so funny oh my god! 😂😂😂 The sarcasm, the acting HELP!
@joshuagoldsmith7240 Жыл бұрын
It almost seems like they need to make another show where they Cat Noir as the first name so he can actually do something. Poor guy isn’t even treated as a human he’s just treated more like a toy or machine. Yes he’s a senti beast but surely they can do him some justice and not treat him like it.
@kainightshade5033 Жыл бұрын
This finale could've been the greatest of all time. Look, I logically get WHY Adrien wasn't there. But to THEN HAVE HIM GLORIFY HIS ABUSER AND PUT MARINETTE IN A MORALLY COMPROMISING SITUATION IS SO GROSS! It would be extremely ooc for Mari to hold onto this secret for long so this plotline will likely lead into Adrienette angst in S6 and beyond but yeah. This finale gets 5/10. It had its moments and for this universe it works but GOD! I feel like 8 years of my investment just got tossed away!
@julial4569 Жыл бұрын
Yes! And let's say she won't tell all of this to Adrian because she wants to shield him and protect him from the harsh truth for whatever reason. Why didn't she tell anything to Chat Noir??? What was the reason for not telling everything to him? Wasn't he her most loyal and trusted partner who fought alongside her for all this time? Didn't he deserve to find out how Monarch was defeated and who he actually was???
@randompeanut1156 Жыл бұрын
@@julial4569My working theory on why she hasn't said anything is because... Uh.. Actually, she has no reason, other than Gabriel literally telling her to make sure he remembers him as a good father, not as a villian. Which she should not be doing.
@heartsisastars_ Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I enjoyed the finale sure I was a little disappointed that Adrian got left out so did Felix and Kagami mean I know they explained everything to Marinette but they still could find a way to be in the finale and it's blatantly dumb how she forgot everything they told her about the peacock miraculous and Gabe she could piece it together but no she was too busy worrying about her boyfriend to do anything. But besides that, the finale was still really good I cried at the ending a little bit and the action was entertaining and exciting but remembering Gabriel as a hero and the fact Marinette build his statue is just why? 😖
@Pteriidae Жыл бұрын
The things in the finale I truly, fully liked without a single bad thing to say about were the Kwamis and the last frame of part 2 where we got to see Felix. That's all. That's it. Justice for my boy Cat Noir, for fuck's sake. So much so for that "it's just you and me against the world now" we had at the end of season 4 and beginning of season 5. Stop writing him out of the story, writers, for the love of god, he's the main reason a good chunk of us watch the show. I'm so tired and frustrated of this nonsense, I want to bang my head against the wall until either my head or the wall cracks. "Tales of Ladybug _and_ Cat Noir", my ass, clearly someone responsible for this has reading comprehension that lasts a whole total of the first three words of that title. They did him so dirty, he does not deserve this and honestly, neither do we as an audience.
@Casper_198410 ай бұрын
"Meanwhile, we're all screaming at the tv because she works for Monarch, you dumbarse." That sentence had me stitches.
@zahwon6351 Жыл бұрын
On behalf of us that are tired from Asstruck's plan we would like to thank you for watching and reviewing it so we don't have to ❤🎉
@Kanerudo Жыл бұрын
How the hell did Plagg escaped with the ring? He can fly though objects, the ring can't. We didn't even see any holes in the prison Adrien was in