Smash Ultimate: Art of Greninja

[@IzAwSmash]

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[@macmarwick2467]

I've been maining greninja for the last 2 years and I cant describe how happy seeing this made me. When it seemed that just about everybody has given up on greninja

[@Corlwow]

Try Apolotion. He is the goat of insanely detailed guides.

[@anthonystrangio]

Greninja is actually one of my 2 mains along with Byleth

[@ZoroPTD]

I main greninja, finally got him to 6 mil gsp the other day, so happy(I don't really play him too much online)

[@bubbasour3754]

i secondary him as of yesterday

[@owenloveridge279]

Ik im late but should I have Tilt attack or smash attack with Greninja

[@helfyr9656]

There is one thing Gren has that went unmentioned. His Pivot Grab. Long story short, its huge, and outranging your enemies approaches is not unreasonable. This can cause some Meele Marth tier shenanigans. I also think people hate on Shadow Sneak a lot. It's not a core part of his kit, but between reading airdodges and platform techs, recovery mixups, and even the gimmicky frame 1 parry, it has plenty of situations where it adds to his moveset in a meaningful way. I say this because I heard people comparing it to Side-B's like Egg Roll, Rollout and Hammer Flip. How you can think Shadow Sneak is even close to these is beyond me.

[@legionssb]

Wall cling shadow sneak charge tech is ridiculous. But yeah ur right abt the pivot grab, the opposite of his abomination of a dash grab

[@FRuMMaGe]

Fully charged shuriken at the ledge into full range shadow sneak is a true combo and kills even super heavies at about 40 percent. It's disgusting and probably the most dishonest part of Gren's kit XD

[@legionssb]

@@FRuMMaGe it’s super funny when you get it

[@Schroe]

Shhhhh don’t tell anyone 👀

[@GresSimJa]

Those two rolling moves are a special kind of sucky. Not even Hammer Flip compares. And yea, remember how many people looked at Bowser's big pivot grab? Greninja's is bigger.

[@alphamew1773]

im gonna say this since I never see anyone mention this: Hydro Pump in neutral is an effective way to mess with people's air momentum. Characters that like to land with low landing lag aerials are left hanging in the air, which makes their move more vulnerable to a dash attack or other punish, and the bubbles from hydro pump each deal around 1-2%, making it an additional projectile to stall and camp with in some scenarios. Everyone focuses on hydro pump as an offstage tool, and they never seem to recognize the potential it has in neutral. Its like a better version of fludd imo

[@legionssb]

You can cheese bowsers who use up b onstage near ledge too, or link or similar characters. Free stock

[@camo658]

i grief ike chrom inkling etc with grenin upb all the time 👍

[@oscarcapac1786]

I've played those games for years and only just discovered that Greninja's uptilt is a lick

[@RanserSSF4]

Here are a few things worth noting: 1. Dash Attack > IDJ Fair is actually at its best when ledge trapping. It's active for 5 frames, and since regular getup is reactable, you time it so the last few frames hits the opponent. If it does, it true combos into IDJ fair, and there are some percents where it true combos even when the opponent di's away (That's also because you're closer to the opponent this way than you would normally). This also isn't too hard to get since greninja can condition it thanks to his other great ledge trapping options. If the opponent tries to avoid it, you can just use his other ledge trapping options to cover them. 2. There are certain percents where dtilt > IDJ fair is better and more consistent than dtilt >full hop Fair. This is also because of the games buffer system and short hop macro making dtilt >full hop fair a bit inconsistent sometimes. 3. The other reason you might use hydro pump when juggling opponents is because each individual hitbox counts as their own hit, so it can be used to unstale your future moves so you either get better confirms or just better kill moves since they'll most likely be fresh. Otherwise, this was a great guide.

[@calistehermann3792]

You can also Dtilt idj or dj bair, for consistent kills at the ledge, but it is a bit hard to get the instant turnaround. Anyway Lea does it a lot :D

[@RanserSSF4]

@@calistehermann3792 good to hear :)

[@Steeple_]

Literally sitting here going, "I wish there was an art of greninja video." Thanks! Also everyone is clamouring about Apolotion and they are absolutely right!

[@seamusflannery3374]

1:01 in the words of Apolotion, “when in doubt, whip it out.”

[@legionssb]

100% the best quote. But just an fyi he doesn’t condone that kinda behavior

[@seamusflannery3374]

@@legionssb in your local Walmart, that is

[@legionssb]

@@seamusflannery3374 yeah anywhere else is fine I guess

[@kuniokun9117]

14:26 rare footage of greninja actually angry

[@gamenwatch6269]

Learned so much about a character people rarely play. Thanks for the guide!

[@GianfrancoFino24]

This guide is great, and any Gren mains who wants more GREAT guides should visit Apolotion’s multiple and deep greninja guides! Best character guides in all yt

[@mathcs9991]

I absolutly can't wait to watch the Pokemon Trainer one. Keep going with the amazing work !

[@LinkMaster5555]

Yeah love pt and Greninja

[@ephedra443]

I know Greninja isn't considered a top tier, but theres something just so satisfying about playing him. He feels like such an honest character in the sense that everytime you land a hit you feel like it was truly because you outsmarted your opponent, he is such a fun character to play.

[@aprinceofearthsea4875]

Yeah, no kidding. He's so fast but linear that he's basically just telling people he knows where they're gonna be before they get there.

[@sirpig7141]

Every time I sit down and watch and art of I leave wondering "since when was X character so sick?!" This time proved no exception.

[@wondrwaffleXD]

Top tier quality as expected, thanks Izaw. Looking forward to Wii Fit and Megaman

[@lukeebubba]

I needed this! Not that I want to play greninja, but I play against so many in tournament and can’t win, and maybe I’ll play him later on :)

[@Shyningfade]

Holy sheet, this was an amazing guide! I learned so many things about Greninja that I never knew. My mind was blown when I saw counter used diagonally, and the hitbox extension with the log/substitute. So sick!

[@legionssb]

Apolotion has a sheet ton of log tech, check it out

[@nickborkenhagen]

this is a really good guide for people who understand the game and want to try out greninja. I actually have nothing to add besides the fact that you can combo nair into footstool dair for even more combo routes and strings. Amazing video and i would totally recommend this vid to anyone trying out greninja!

[@peeron6829]

I dont understand the game at all, or better put, i understand but can execute it 😂 But i just picked it up again maybe ill get better.

[@ComboFood]

Been thinking of picking up Greninja for Ganondorf and Lucario as my other 2 mains, been having a character crisis for ages but finally things are clicking

[@sggames4787]

Great video as always, Izaw. Definitely seeing a lot more potential with Greninja than I first imagined. Could you do an Art of Corrin video next? I know you did one for Sm4sh, but I think there's some differences in Ultimate. Anyway, thanks for the great content!

[@JaimeAGB-pt4xl]

I've loved Greninja's design since its release in Smash4, such a technical and dinamic character.... I've always considered it upper to top tier, but it only goes to show how powerscaling works for Smash as the character has practically no competitive results and other characters are considered far stronger

[@fiatlux805]

Been maining the frog since smash 4 so I love to see this! By far the most stylish combos in the entire game, cannot convince me otherwise.

[@peeron6829]

Big frog

[@SuperDominicS]

Honestly I've just been looking for a character that suits me, having ok kill power but good range and options. Greninja fits my wants perfectly.

[@datavoyt]

Can’t wait for Apolotion to react to this!

[@swovfty5389]

IVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS

[@ethanwesel3010]

This content deserves more views than any content from the other creators

[@gix9704]

YES! I already played Greninja, but I'm super happy to see you finally cover him!

[@sked3521]

apolotion been real quiet since this dropped

[@Cadesworth]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR YEARS

[@adinv9257]

For some reason this didn’t appear in my sub box or recommended, I can’t believe this came out 10 days ago. My favorite training buddy plays greninja, super excited to learn more

[@gamermanzeake]

Now stuff like this is what I am looking for! Great video.

[@xxwallzxx4509]

There is a few things he can do. But I am learning myself. Like run back and use his insane reverse grab range and punish if you see the aerial coming. But I also don't know if jab can be a punish or even if power shield is a proper punish either for the frame advantage afterwards. Also that is if you get better frame advantage from a power shield in the first place. I am picking him up as a secondary now. Seems fun. Not sure if he would stay as secondary pick. But it looks that way right now and I like him. Edit: There is also up tilt. Not sure if it can out prioritize other moves or if it is entangable. There is also up special in being his recovery to squirt out a small amount of water to push back and deal like 2 or 3 percent health. He can be annoying by the looks of it tbh. Maybe to a smart player that can really master him. He looks to be smart and technical. I am sort of into him right now because of the amount of stuff he can do. Also there is a chance that he can do a lot more than what others think. His up special looks like it can be used in a lot of ways. But I may be wrong. I know anti air is one. But also knocking them off of platforms is another. Also edgeguarding and way more. It seems under used tbh. But Greninja isn't shown to the max yet. That is how I feel. Like a smart and swift and technical player can make him shine. Granted there are a lot of strong Greninja players. But he just seems like he offers a lot. That is just my opinion. Edit 2: I posted comment before watching. Also again.. you have to be extremely smart to use him. Also technical. From what I watched from you. It's a smart and technical fighter that is hard to master.

[@nataliedarley3943]

My detail vision while looking at a TV screen is mediocre at best, so I can’t see the shadow when using Greninja’s Shadow Sneak. I had to just become an expert at timing it. Now I depend on it for surprising other fighters when they come out of shield. I throw a small shuriken, they shield, I use Shadow Sneak to end up just behind them so when they come out of shield and do a move I hit them in the back.

[@joetatos8687]

Been having a character crisis and seeing that using trigger to jump benefits this character (ive always used LT) really interest me

[@stompsalot]

Always love your guides, and was considering giving Greninja a try recently, and am once again finding your explanations and pacing here on point as usual ^_^

[@Shirakumo_]

Been waiting for this! Greninja is so sick and I’m glad you’re finally covering him. ☁️

[@Shirakum0_]

MAN DON'T ACTUALLY TELL ME THERE IS ANOTHER GRENINJA MAIN WHO'S CALLED SHIRAKUMO OUT THERE BAHAHAHAHA

[@gigahammer662]

I’ve mained Greninja since smash 4 but I never did really well so I had to drop him. Now that I’m picking him up again, this is helping a lot.

[@_127N]

You never fail to surprise me. The log against Ness Up B? Wow

[@milesmaoramaishi8168]

tip for edgegaurds: you don't need to time a down air to spike. if your opponent is offstage, go to them. if they attack or up b, use down special and tilt the stick down. it spikes and you can recover. well, kind of because tilting down makes you go to a downward direction so when you spike it brings you down too, so this is recommended when your opponent is near the ledge.

[@peeron6829]

Ty

[@Doctor.R_LP]

Excellent guide. Looking to see Art of Ridley in the future

[@phobiaphobe]

I feel like more people need to talk about tilting to the top corner for RAR B-Air instead of just tilting backwards to not accidentally trigger a backdash

[@duke_8747]

I love playing Greninja and I can consistently pull of his basic combos and kill confirms but I feel like I start losing the more I keep playing him against the same player because his play style becomes predictable. I feel like at first he’s amazing and can really throw off your opponent and make them feel helpless but after they learn the matchup it becomes significantly harder to win. I will admit I need to play him more though and work on mixing up my play style more

[@venn_diagramm]

venia has a good guide on avoiding this on his channel I found really helpful

[@SpyderBey]

Hhmmmm so this is why good Greninja players are more abundant... Awesome work!

[@Kragglover2003]

I've had a secondary gren for a decent amount of moves so this can simply it a little

[@EpicEdd21]

This is a really complete guide man

[@pbz7572]

1:10 Wish Fair &/or Nair had faster startup

[@akinmations892]

Could you do Ness? I've been maining ness ever since brawl! It would be amazing to see you do it!

[@yalebass]

yes

[@name-tx5qu]

Welp I've been convinced greninja is getting piled into my 10+ secondaries

[@koldking]

Really awesome opening!

[@nickTriesHisBest]

10:52 bro this is just fuckin ridiculously cool

[@WashedAMVs]

Literally told myself this morning that I was gonna pick Greninja back up, and look at that. A brand new Greninja guide 👌🏾

[@peeron6829]

Are you still playing smash? :)

[@soggydinnerolls1821]

Now this is gonna be sick

[@lightcreed962]

Finally a video dedicated to us Greninja Mains

[@realchezboi]

I do in fact want to know how to play Greninja

[@edelserna2369]

I really do think Greninja has what it takes to be at the top of high tier or bottom of top tier.

[@tm-mw1jz]

Finally my main \o/, thank you senseï :)

[@KhalUsi]

Those "Art of.." Videos are the best! Art of R.O.B would be great:D

[@Corlwow]

Cool intro for art of greninja!!!

[@smikuswag]

You should be able to attack white shadow sneaking + u shouldnt have to hold it.

[@LinkMaster5555]

Thanks for this learned so much

[@z-bo2016]

Hey, Izaw! I’ve just discovered your channel, and I really love everything you’re putting out! I have been playing Smash for only a few months now, and I was playing DK pretty frequently, but I realized now that I need to pick up a character that has wider limits for me to push. So, I started to play Byleth recently. It would mean a lot if you eventually made a Art of Byleth video! Regardless, thanks for all of the awesome content, your passion for the game really shines through in your videos! :) Edit: I just realized you already have a Byleth guide… Now I’m excited to watch it!

[@teacup2686]

He all ready made a byleth guide. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmSZpWuambucrqs

[@peeron6829]

Are you still playing? I just started again 2 days ago 😄

[@Primal-Rose]

Dat intro doe

[@seamusflannery3374]

Thank you

[@yolotzin9596]

YES that’s what I been waiting for. My greninja sucks and I need improvement

[@JinisBored]

Never thought I’d see the day

[@ethanparker6825]

Love the vids and all the in depth tips!Art of Mii Sword fighter please?!

[@thealgorithm7921]

Ayo this beat kinda hittin wtf

[@onimaru2933]

Bro I'm having so much trouble doing the fast back air lol

[@ubbychubbs4238]

I don't play greninja and i never will. Watched all of the video. Keep it up! Edit: After watching this for a second time I play geninja occasionally in friendlies!

[@MattRain90]

I will always play Greninja for the last years ever since I play him in Wii U and now I play him in Ultimate. I have experience with Greninja and I want to be a good Greninja player and I also be that person to keep going to the next level and I’ll never replace greninja with someone in smash.

[@peeron6829]

Still playing Greninja?

[@MattRain90]

@@peeron6829 yessir

[@peeron6829]

@@MattRain90 nice bro

[@_shadiness]

FINALLY THE ART OF GRENINJA

[@VinKprofile]

What a sick char I never see people play

[@sherwindai1259]

Thank you for making this guide Izaw! And lets give Izaw more credit for putting this up knowing that there's another greninja KZbinr out there

[@greenking9124]

The ninja Art of greninja

[@kobehope501]

I'd love to see Greninja parry octoslash!

[@gio._.notfound3377]

Im watching this video even tho I don’t even play smash I just like greninja

[@luisbelgodere1770]

It would be so sick if you did a “how to” or “art of” video for mewtwo

[@YGK-tu8cy]

What's the music the starts at 3:34? It's so epic

[@3dz3dz]

greninja is weirder than i thought

[@djolt5264]

Awesome video, as always!

[@dopenessofsorts]

New main here I come!

[@1SBK909]

YES FINALLY GRENINJA MY BABY

[@thesubstitute7755]

Izaw would NEVER release a Art of Greninja video. *Izaw releases a Art of Greninja video* AIN'T NO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA -

[@Yoshun-1738]

Hopefully you'll make an art of diddy kong for ultimate

[@lunarbarz7163]

So im just gna say i think you be reading my mind like i just picked up greninja hoping u do an art of and boom here we are 🥲😭😭

[@LGSweets]

Great video!

[@legionssb]

When in doubt, whip it out! But I don’t condone that behavior in your local Walmart! Apolotion on bair. (Paraphrase)

[@nescun5625]

Solid vid! Can you do a Shulk one next?

[@cleanmf1]

We been waiting lets gooo

[@RofICopters]

his pivot grab is a tether grab. because why not?

This is the best

[@matthewmccroskey7595]

I have trouble with drag down up airs. Can you do them without delaying the up air or do you have to delay it a bit?

[@crespo858]

How do you do an instintant bair after dash? Unless you're really good at RAR?

[@shlooze3]

Nice vid

[@pinto4164]

Sneaky ninja 👍

[@xHuie]

somé is cracked

[@Geo_K012]

ART OF LUCAS NEXT

[@grimsdol4665]

I'd luv to know what the background music

[@jbranger388]

Yessir the frog