Smashing Pumpkins Composer Reaction to Mayonaise

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@lostmotel6156
@lostmotel6156 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly 30 years on, this song still gets me every time. That feedback in the pauses, created organically each time they stopped playing this crappy, broken guitar they were using, is pure genius.
@kasdjkfghalksjdhg
@kasdjkfghalksjdhg 2 жыл бұрын
Love.
@swez78
@swez78 2 жыл бұрын
The nostalgia. It takes me back every time.
@jonathanolson1185
@jonathanolson1185 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely man. To this day Siamese Dream is still my fav SP album. It's so damn perfect beginning to end. And Mayonnaise has always been one of my favorites. It's placed so perfectly in the track listing. Right after Geek USA, and directly before the much more toned down Spaceboy, leading into my favorite heavy hitting track, Silverfuck. I feel like that's something that's missing today, is enjoying albums as a whole. And this whole album is fantastic.
@Shovelglove545
@Shovelglove545 2 жыл бұрын
Check out calm
@christofyre
@christofyre 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically their definitive song. And that feedback, from James Iha, is the reason I’ve wanted a vintage Teisco Sharkfin (the blue one!!!) ever since I became a guitar player!
@ChuckWasHere
@ChuckWasHere 2 жыл бұрын
You can really hear the My Bloody Valentine influence on this one.
@someguy4157
@someguy4157 15 күн бұрын
for sure, i was thinking the same thing when i first heard this track.
@djsoulfilter
@djsoulfilter 2 жыл бұрын
Smashing Pumpkins were the sound of my teenage years!
@nickparsons337
@nickparsons337 Жыл бұрын
They were my absolute favorite band in high school; still love the old albums
@BrendanDufftronic
@BrendanDufftronic 24 күн бұрын
Me too man. What a beautiful time that was.
@craighenry2351
@craighenry2351 2 жыл бұрын
This, to me, is their best song. It has all you want in a song. You go from calm simple guitar to chaotic, distorted guitar, but, like you noted, when the vocals come in, they don’t match the loud, distorted guitar. The vocals stay soft and almost fragile, which creates an interesting contrast with the guitar. That’s why, I think that this song takes time to grow on people. But when you hear it enough, you realize how really good the song is. It deserves far more acclaim than it gets. Thanks for bringing notice to it, by giving this reaction.
@moleman1976
@moleman1976 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite SP song by far (and I love a lot of their other songs). You described it better than I could, but this song just comes together and WORKS for me! It hits me harder every time I hear it!
@nickparsons337
@nickparsons337 Жыл бұрын
I've loved this song from the first listen. Once I heard Disarm back when Siamese Dream came out, I was an instant Pumpkins fan.
@SupermanNew52
@SupermanNew52 Жыл бұрын
Mayonaise is my favorite SP song. Soma, Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Muzzle, Thru the Eyes of Ruby, etc. are all up there too. I love all SP from Gish-Machina II and some of the newer stuff. I like Zwan and Billy's solo stuff too.
@Ricardo-cl3vs
@Ricardo-cl3vs Жыл бұрын
There is a version with only acoustic guitars that uses the same vocal track. You can hear that there's a Flanger layered over Billy's vocals. That gives it the dreamy quality.
@theHYmaster
@theHYmaster 6 ай бұрын
Also my fav SP song without any hesitation….
@NeonPixels81
@NeonPixels81 9 ай бұрын
This is without a doubt not just one of the Smashing Pumpkins' greatest sngs (honestly, I don't think they ever topped it, even Zero and Bullet with Butterfly Wings don't hit me the same way as Mayonaise does), but it's in my opinion one of the best songs of that 90s era rock. I place this on the same pedastal as "Yellow Ledbetter", "Serve the Servants", "Paranoid Android", "Burden in My Hand", "Lightning Crashes", and "Nutshell" from that era. All standout songs for me from that early 90s grunge / progressive rock era.
@SebGeddy
@SebGeddy 2 жыл бұрын
OK, "Disarm" and "Today" (from the same album) are perfect but "Mayonaise" is the secret weapon of "Siamese Dream" (and of Smashing Pumpkings, to a larger extent)
@jonrobbin170
@jonrobbin170 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best albums of all time quiet and Luna are soooo good but definitely love the whole album through beginning to end
@craighenry2351
@craighenry2351 2 жыл бұрын
And as the secret weapon, of all the good to great songs on Siamese Dream, I thing it is the best (And, actually, the best in their entire catalogue.).
@MrNemie20
@MrNemie20 Жыл бұрын
I would say mayonaise is less secret weapon its more hidden than secret. HUMMER however HUMMER is the secret banger of this album
@northernelitegoaltending
@northernelitegoaltending Жыл бұрын
And "Soma"
@gossamer1234
@gossamer1234 Жыл бұрын
@@northernelitegoaltending I used to rank Mayonaise the best of the bunch, but Soma creeped back to the top IMO
@jademonolith
@jademonolith 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of memory triggers, I always hear the intro riff of Space Boy in my head after Mayonaise's outro fades out.
@TheRealLetharos
@TheRealLetharos 2 жыл бұрын
Space Boy is probably my favorite song on this album. Its all amazing. It's like picking your favorite chocolate chip out of a chocolate chip cookie.
@nowayagain8141
@nowayagain8141 7 күн бұрын
@@TheRealLetharos "Feel it...break your bones, Mister Jones...."
@jbasti227
@jbasti227 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite song by them. The writing, the emotions it brings out, the tones, the progressions, the melodies in the guitars and Billy's voice, the massive wall of sound. It's about as perfect as a song can get.
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy 2 жыл бұрын
yep.
@jamasters62
@jamasters62 2 жыл бұрын
Word
@1Philmingo
@1Philmingo 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@dejavu3655
@dejavu3655 Жыл бұрын
Same
@AIKnowYou
@AIKnowYou Жыл бұрын
I didn't grow up with their music and only knew the popular tracks like Disarm and Tonight Tonight etc. I don't know what radio/list I was on on Spotify yesterday, but it brought up Mayonnaise. God damn this song hits the feels hard. I wish I had heard it long ago, and I can't imagine what it's like for people who have known it and listened throughout their lives.
@lemurdream
@lemurdream 2 жыл бұрын
Been a huge fan since Gish. I bought this album the day it came out. Went straight home, smoked a fat bowl and laid down on my bed. It blew my head off. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. The production. The songs. The drumming of course. After it was over I was speechless. I'll never forget that hot Summer afternoon high as Hell in my dark cool bedroom. lol All their albums are very different animals, but Gish is still my favorite. : )
@thetheRedundant
@thetheRedundant 2 жыл бұрын
I fucking love that story
@judsonwright
@judsonwright Жыл бұрын
Great story. I did the same thing with OK computer with my friends. We got the CD the day it came out. Went into my friends basement. Smoked a bowl, turned the lights out and put on OK Computer. Totally blew my mind. Pumpkins and Radiohead were all I listened to for a while. Can’t think of modern bands who are the level those two got to.
@lemurdream
@lemurdream Жыл бұрын
@@judsonwright Hell yeah. OK Computer was definitely a mind melter.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
@@lemurdream first time I saw Radiohead they were playing Paranoid Android live on TV. My 1st thought was this is Pink Floyd level. Got the album quickly after.
@leslieburz
@leslieburz Жыл бұрын
@@johndef5075 I just tweeted about Paranoid Android. Probably one of the greatest songs of all time. I just watched some musician on KZbin go through the 4 sections of that song for every instrument. So good. I’ll never forget when that album came out. My god. I was fucking floored. Just listened to the whole thing for the 1000th time earlier today haha! And no joke, I listened to Siamese Dream last week because I was gonna post about either Mayonnaise or Soma. Such a fantastic album. I can’t believe it’s been almost 30 years! Jesus
@stevenclark1624
@stevenclark1624 Жыл бұрын
I think Mayonaise is a perfect song, and it's great to hear someone talking about it with such accuracy. Butch Vig did an amazing job :)
@nathanielfitzgerald4583
@nathanielfitzgerald4583 Жыл бұрын
30 years ago as a Freshman in Highschool while Grunge was breaking the 80s version of Rock I was familiar with, I bought this album on cassette for a friend and we listened to it together driving around in this old 70s beater on a summer day through the park! Changed my life then and there.
@chathamj73
@chathamj73 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, I feel the same way. Graduated 92, all those groups Pumpkins, U2, Alice in Chains, STP so many greats bands in our time
@Fng_1975
@Fng_1975 Жыл бұрын
@@chathamj73Exactly! Graduated in 94 and took these guys to war with me over many deployments. They kept me human.
@dl7905
@dl7905 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those songs that immediately takes me back to the 90s.
@D1m3b4gD4rr3ll
@D1m3b4gD4rr3ll 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy is such an underrated drummer. I say this as a guitarist who probably misses the finer points of comparing drummers. But he's always in the right spot for Pumpkins music...at least to my untrained ear. Just don't hear him getting the credit (I think) he deserves.
@TheAlibabatree
@TheAlibabatree 2 жыл бұрын
One of the all time best. Check out his first solo record “Life Begins Again”. Its kind of jazz fusion mixed with alt rock, and its amazing.
@ianmason2003
@ianmason2003 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not underrated. Anyone who knows, knows Jimmy. And Billy knew he was the key to the pumpkins.
@kristopherguilbault5428
@kristopherguilbault5428 2 жыл бұрын
In Modern drummer magazine out of 100 drummers. Living or dead mind you.. he was voted 5..... NUMBER 5 !!!!! Out of all the GREAT drummers of music in the last 70 years! To me that's saying something.
@janolavfest1415
@janolavfest1415 Жыл бұрын
There is no one like Jimmy on the snare drum
@TheEthNick
@TheEthNick Жыл бұрын
My fave JC performance is ‘Thru the eyes of Ruby’. The drums are allowed to dominate there & gives that track life.
@fenderfox5080
@fenderfox5080 Жыл бұрын
I don't care who you are, this song is a masterpiece, it's the perfect song, perfect mix, perfect 👌
@ItsTheBueno
@ItsTheBueno 2 жыл бұрын
100% love the Siamese Dream album. Huge staple in my soundtrack of life. 90s rock at its finest.
@nancywade3428
@nancywade3428 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite smashing pumpkins song… best album ever!!!
@revylokesh1783
@revylokesh1783 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite SP song. That clean intro with a slight phaser, the wall of sound created by the OpAmp Bigmuff.... just divine!
@iaminyourwalls4553
@iaminyourwalls4553 2 жыл бұрын
That intro (as well as most of the clean parts on Siamese Dream) was a flanger. Billy mainly used phaser in his solos
@stevenbatke4167
@stevenbatke4167 Жыл бұрын
@@iaminyourwalls4553 there’s phaser in there too. I know that Corgan and Vig ran a number of tracks through a Mutron Biphase too. But most of it is subtle.
@psykoholikslag
@psykoholikslag Жыл бұрын
Yep, It cannot be stated enough!!! That wall of sound that only tube, effort, effect, and heart ( and audio engineers) can bring to fruition!!!
@jasonpettitt7322
@jasonpettitt7322 5 ай бұрын
Was it not a tremolo pedal. Swear I either read or heard him say it was a tremolo on that intro. Could be wrong though.
@jleddy
@jleddy 2 жыл бұрын
Smashing Pumpkins are hands down my all-time favorite band…that said, I’d love to hear your reaction to Silversun Pickups (namely “Lazy Eye”), another great band that gives many Pumpkin fans familiar vibes.
@robriginio530
@robriginio530 2 жыл бұрын
Great song!
@tarrasacid1612
@tarrasacid1612 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite songs.
@natemartinez2745
@natemartinez2745 Жыл бұрын
They have so many songs to choose from. I’d love to see Panic Switch too
@ronparsons8786
@ronparsons8786 Жыл бұрын
Love silversun pickups. Have seen them three times live they are fantastic
@junked5214
@junked5214 Жыл бұрын
I love Silversun Pickups but they have so many songs that are much better than Lazy Eye, and Lazy Eye is a good song. Surrounded(or Spiraling), Three Seed, Checkered Floor, Catch and Release, just to name a few
@zmarko
@zmarko 2 жыл бұрын
This whole album is fantastic. In my top 10 of 90s albums.
@smackthatfemale
@smackthatfemale Жыл бұрын
Siamese Dream had so much more replay than so many other "best ever" 90s albums. I can not put on Nevermind for example and enjoy it the way I can Siamese Dream, even though it was my Bible when it came out.
@justiceforall3973
@justiceforall3973 Жыл бұрын
Smashing Pumpkins was the greatest thing that came out of the 90’s…
@fadedidentity
@fadedidentity Жыл бұрын
this song gets me emotional every time. I love how it’s a ballad yet has the wall of distortion and feedback from the guitars. such an amazing combination
@jacobseal
@jacobseal 10 ай бұрын
The most 90's song and album. This takes me right back to driving around the middle of nowhere in a truck with broken AC. Brilliant song.
@frankymcdonald7176
@frankymcdonald7176 Жыл бұрын
i always loved this song because of the guitar feedback that is actually part of the song rather than being a unwanted noise
@quintmylodonrecorders8387
@quintmylodonrecorders8387 Жыл бұрын
This is such a brilliant album, mixed by Butch Vig and Alan Moulder who had such a great touch with making vocals feel like part of the song (as opposed to above the song). True genius
@stopbunsen
@stopbunsen Жыл бұрын
It's always been my favourite SP song. Turns out that I'm not alone. James came up with such a cool chord progression, and Billy filled in the blanks.
@michaelmarhal
@michaelmarhal 2 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite things about the smashing pumpkins is how fun it is to play their songs on guitar or drums.
@Lord_Narcowookie
@Lord_Narcowookie 2 жыл бұрын
Still here, love this song. I didn't like Smashing Pumpkins when I first heard them, I found Billy's vocals grating, then I got outvoted and had to learn the bassline for 'Quiet'. Changed my perception of the band and Siamese Dream turned out to be one of the rare albums for me that has no skippable track.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 2 жыл бұрын
The first few times I heard his voice I wasn’t a big fan either. I’m not sure when it was, but the switch flipped & I completely got it. I’ve loved them ever since (probably around ‘93-‘94).
@2008redsi
@2008redsi 2 жыл бұрын
Butch Vig is one of the best. I love the ending of this song when he holds that note for what feels forever. My favorite is Geek USA on this album. Best guitar solo ever.
@aaronl4242
@aaronl4242 2 жыл бұрын
Soma solo is my fav
@guitaristssuck8979
@guitaristssuck8979 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronl4242 Soma solo is the most intense in music history
@aaronl4242
@aaronl4242 2 жыл бұрын
@@guitaristssuck8979 oh mate, there is a cover on KZbin of that solo. The guy just goes off! Agree, absolutely love the solo
@guitaristssuck8979
@guitaristssuck8979 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronl4242 I did a tutorial on the Geek U.S.A. double solo since I couldn't find the right version online, there's only wrong tabs and videos around: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5aUoJ6spryfbpo
@charlesdjones1
@charlesdjones1 Жыл бұрын
I used to put Geek USA on repeat for hours lol now it's one of those songs that had its time in my life but I enjoy the other tracks that maybe I didn't put much emphasis on back in the 90s as a teen. Mayo is one of those, it's incredible.
@JD_Slacker
@JD_Slacker Жыл бұрын
Loved this song from the moment i first heard it nearly 30 years ago. Pure 90s nostalgia.
@ca9968
@ca9968 Жыл бұрын
It starts off so delicately, there`s so much been said through the guitars, then it drops with a wall of pure sonic eargasm! What a track from in my humble opinion, one of the best albums of the 1990`s!
@ojmcbaggins
@ojmcbaggins Жыл бұрын
Siamese dream was one of the first albums I bought growing up. Every track is flawless. I highly suggest listening to the album sometime
@clurin
@clurin 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many wonderful deep cuts of the Pumpkins, and this is definitely one of them! Loved the breakdown! "Galapagos" is another favorite off of Mellon Collie. Their hits are good, but some of the subtler songs on the albums are even better!
@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns
@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns 2 жыл бұрын
MC is their best album
@SnapMeBollix69
@SnapMeBollix69 Жыл бұрын
There’s one I love called an airplane flys something something… can’t remember now but it’s so good… I remember seeing a live Version from some French festival maybe 97/98
@nickstarkey4378
@nickstarkey4378 Жыл бұрын
@@SnapMeBollix69 aeroplane flies high turns left looks right! Such a heavy song!
@GhostlyEcheveria
@GhostlyEcheveria 2 жыл бұрын
The Smashing Pumpkins have been my favorite band for almost 30 years. This song has always been in my top 10 favorites. I'm glad you finally got around to listening to it.
@aaronl4242
@aaronl4242 2 жыл бұрын
This and Soma are just amazing. Top 10 album for me. Love it ❤️
@waynegoodman135
@waynegoodman135 2 жыл бұрын
Soma is the centerpiece to the classic album. To me anyways
@JoeHartman80
@JoeHartman80 Жыл бұрын
Soma is my second favorite SP after Thru the eyes of ruby
@fizzletrie1592
@fizzletrie1592 2 жыл бұрын
i see smashing pumpkins, i click
@Lateralus138
@Lateralus138 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite SP album. Nothing starts an album off kicking ass better than 'Cherub Rock'.
@CitizenScorn
@CitizenScorn Жыл бұрын
Trivia: the feedback sound on the guitar in the chorus at the "pause/break" was because one of their guitars during recording had some sort of malfunction that if it wasn't being strummed or picked it would just give off feedback, so they stuck with it and didn't fix it, letting it come through in this song. One of their best, no doubt. 🤙💙🤘
@wangalive
@wangalive Жыл бұрын
True this. It was an old cheap guitar Billy had bought years before for $65.
@MrSulfor
@MrSulfor Жыл бұрын
@@wangalive it was like a thrift store find iirc.
@frankymcdonald7176
@frankymcdonald7176 Жыл бұрын
im guessing this was more of a gain thing from the pedal sounds like a big muff
@mr1zog
@mr1zog Жыл бұрын
@@frankymcdonald7176 high-gain single coil magic 😊🤘
@johnniea4684
@johnniea4684 6 ай бұрын
Yup. He still owns the guitar iirc, or at least he did as recently as a few years back.
@20th_century_specter
@20th_century_specter 2 жыл бұрын
The Smashing Pumpkins song "Bodies" is my personal favorite.
@cuteasxtreme
@cuteasxtreme 2 жыл бұрын
Top comment for me right here
@dirtyhistorian
@dirtyhistorian 2 жыл бұрын
Bodies is an amazing song. I still get chills after all these years, even just remembering the opening riff. The first five songs on that album, from Where boys fear to tread to Thirty-three and 1979, are just masterfull.
@20th_century_specter
@20th_century_specter 2 жыл бұрын
@@dirtyhistorian agreed.
@shangobango77
@shangobango77 2 жыл бұрын
Right up at the top for sure.
@SourPlanet
@SourPlanet 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Jimmy track, that one. Really driving beat with kit obliterating fills.
@nineteenninetyfive
@nineteenninetyfive Жыл бұрын
The lyrics aren't usually what i find most interesting about SP, but where he says "try to understand when i can, I will" hits hard. Also, it's well know that Billy played all the bass on this album.
@smprather
@smprather Жыл бұрын
Darcy just kinda hung out with the band.
@johnniea4684
@johnniea4684 6 ай бұрын
@@smprather That's not true tbh, she actually worked on the album in the studio, but due to the way Vig recorded Siamese Dream it required a lot of multi tracking and he was meticulous for the pieces being flawlessly played. James and D'arcy weren't able to do this as efficiently as Billy - who is a technically superior player - so he ended up recording all the bass and almost all of the guitar parts, for reasons of studio time and money. This caused a lot of resentment in the band and they never worked this way again - or with Vig, incidentally.
@docbrown6797
@docbrown6797 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could go back and hear this for the first time again. I envy you.
@guitaristssuck8979
@guitaristssuck8979 2 жыл бұрын
Same... but the very first time I heard it it was on Vieuphoria, I was watching that VHS before getting Siamese Dream...
@louiecmancuzo2903
@louiecmancuzo2903 Жыл бұрын
100%
@brettrobertleasure
@brettrobertleasure 2 жыл бұрын
one subtle nuance i've always appreciated about billy's lead work and it never really gets mentioned, but his use of reverse bending here and there i think really adds a nice layer to his voicing. also, he tends not to just widdle away above the 12th, but billy will solo in lower registers and i think it adds a nice balance/movement to his leadwork.
@SourPlanet
@SourPlanet 2 жыл бұрын
The solo in this song is really something else. You're totally right that moving through the scale voicings makes it absolutely soar.
@BudoDave76
@BudoDave76 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a guitar player but I’ve always loved how melodic and musical his solos are.
@stevewest5397
@stevewest5397 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this. I know alot of their other stuff gets far more attention, but this is my favorite Pumpkins song by far.
@mpk33
@mpk33 2 жыл бұрын
Siamese Dream is my favourite alternative rock album of the 90's. It is peak Pumpkins. It is the perfect album, a 10/10. The distortion, the harmonics, Jimmy's mind-blowing drumming (rock mixed with jazz precision & those chops & flams & a super precise hi-hat time keeping left foot). Jimmy Chamberlin is one of the greatest drummers of all time. If you've heard his JC Complex albums, you'll know how amazing he is at jazz too. Life Begins Again is also a fantastic rock album. I'm a huge JC fan & he is criminally underrated, but can play rings around every drummer of that era, or any era.
@jeffnielsen2508
@jeffnielsen2508 2 жыл бұрын
Love that you broke this one down man. It gets my heart every time I hear this song
@caulinwilson3620
@caulinwilson3620 Жыл бұрын
Almost always cry to this one. No one knows, where our secrets go.
@iantrenter9201
@iantrenter9201 2 жыл бұрын
I’m seeing them live in 3 months and I’m so excited! Them and janes addiction!
@jpvisuals726
@jpvisuals726 2 жыл бұрын
Me too in Seattle
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
You are in for a treat!
@iantrenter9201
@iantrenter9201 Жыл бұрын
@@jpvisuals726 I’m seeing them in the twin cities.
@iantrenter9201
@iantrenter9201 Жыл бұрын
@@johndef5075 I know right! That’s what people have been telling me
@kristopherryanwatson
@kristopherryanwatson Жыл бұрын
youre very lucky! that tour is going to be so strong. i have not seen the Pumpkins live since 2015. but i did seem them 3 times on the Mellon Collie tour. of the 50+ shows ive seen over my lifetime, those shows, and, seeing them at Lollapalooza in 94 were my absolute favorite. that show changed my life.
@ronparsons8786
@ronparsons8786 Жыл бұрын
Sad, beautiful, melancholy, powerful song. On my forever playlist
@shanefraser7764
@shanefraser7764 Ай бұрын
It's been nearly a year since my mate passed away.......this was the last song played at his funeral, FOREVER in our Hearts Jamie Cook ,1 OF New Zealands Best🛹🙏🇳🇿❤️🍻
@wok138
@wok138 Жыл бұрын
I was so grateful that this album was my introduction to the band, when it came out. This album has a very special place in my heart.
@ronkhoo
@ronkhoo Жыл бұрын
4:10 Siamese Dream had one of the best mixing of Corgan's voice. Butch Vig took out the harshness, added some phasing and mixed it in low, an MBV showgaze way of mixing vocals with fuzz guitars. I think it was also a conscious decision to sing softer to get that whispery quality, again another shoegaze influence that can't be easily replicated live. Later SP albums started to mix the vocals more dry and front to different effect, the nasal quality become more grating and less silky.
@NeonPixels81
@NeonPixels81 9 ай бұрын
That light phasing during the chorus is such an inspired touch I'm surprised that it isn't mentioned more often in "rock historian" conversations. No one else would have thought of it and no one would have missed it if it wasn't added, but after hearing it it's impossible to imagine the song without it.
@johnniea4684
@johnniea4684 6 ай бұрын
MCIS was recorded pretty much live to tape by Flood, as he's more of a "feel" producer than Vig, who is meticulous. As a result, it doesn't have the intricate, layered smooth feel of Siamese Dream, which is particularly noticeable on the vocals. So Billy's voice is much more dry and brittle and kind of hidden more in the often dense instrumentation. I think both approaches work pretty well, though no doubt Vig's approach is more demanding and not as much fun, from the musician's perspective. Recording Siamese Dream wore the band out and caused a lot of problems internally. They all have said they enjoyed recording MCIS (which is almost twice as long a record) far more than SD. I don't think the way Billy's vocals were recorded from MCIS onward were a problem as such, as original SP mixed them well. From the time of the reunion (Zeitgeist) the vocals have been mixed far too prominently, and it's a problem as Billy is just not a great singer.
@Lulubelle.III.
@Lulubelle.III. Жыл бұрын
The bass guitar portion is always quite fantastical. Thank you Billy!
@MalinLH
@MalinLH 2 жыл бұрын
I love this song. It was one of the songs I used to learn drumming interdependence between my high hat foot and my bass drum foot. It seems simple now. But at the time it scrambled my brain.
@metalboy27
@metalboy27 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I tried to learn the main beat in this song when I was in high school, but carrying the beat with the left foot like that felt so weird. It sounds simple, but it is definitely not common, and of my two arms and two legs, my left leg was typically the most "behind" in rhythmic ability.
@Pastryarchy
@Pastryarchy 2 жыл бұрын
Same haha
@kristopherryanwatson
@kristopherryanwatson Жыл бұрын
this is one of their finest songs they have ever done. just like a few songs where James contributed, it is a testament to just how talented they were. somehow it releases a nostalgic vibe for just about anyone. its a favorote and classic from siamese dream, i dont know anyone or have ever read a comment online saying anything negative about the song. brilliant compositions.
@dkozlak922
@dkozlak922 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite SP tracks. I saw them close out the Minneapolis stop of the Lalapalooza 94 tour. Playing this song as the sun was setting and it felt “right”. Beautiful.
@eqseep
@eqseep Жыл бұрын
takes me back to being 13 with my walkman on at the bus stop. so good.
@BlakeElliott35
@BlakeElliott35 Ай бұрын
Considering how much Geebz actually knows about music production, engineering, mixing, composition, etc… His reaction to this is just awesome.
@99bajakid
@99bajakid 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact @key of Geebz - that guitar squeak was due to Billy picking up a thrift shop guitar that would constantly squeak/squeal when not being played, he thought it was cool and utilized that "defect" in a fun way. Also this song will always remind me of middle school, it was in an 8th grade class where I had an amazing teacher that really opened my eyes up to music. Every week a kid would bring in a song and we would listen to it and break down the lyrical meaning. This is the song I chose as a 13 year old super into Smashing Pumpkins. - Also i'm still here. Much love dude.
@Firsttube11
@Firsttube11 2 жыл бұрын
I had a teacher who did this as well. Illinois by chance?
@destroytheangels
@destroytheangels 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic story, thanks for sharing
@99bajakid
@99bajakid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Firsttube11 No, this was in San Diego (poway to be exact)
@himynameis3664
@himynameis3664 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is he used that "defection" in the guitar perfectly. He could have easily got carried away and used too much, but typical corgan used it to perfection
@leslieburz
@leslieburz Жыл бұрын
Aw man I wish I had a teacher like that! I hung out with a band all throughout high school who really opened my eyes to so much great music. So at least I had that. The Beatles, Radiohead, Pink Floyd, The Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Bowie, AIC, QOTSA, Stone Temple Pilots, etc. Cause before that i was listening to rubbish! Haha! I’ll never forget listening to the Abbey Road medley for the first time. I was like, Mean Mr Mustard what?! Never heard anything like it😍
@Chyrnobyl66
@Chyrnobyl66 2 жыл бұрын
this may be their best song ..great choice "Can anybody hear me, I just want to be me ......When I can, I will."
@SolamenteVees
@SolamenteVees Жыл бұрын
That cozy purr guitar tone is an Op-amp Big Muff. It’s all over Siamese Dream.
@michaelcain1225
@michaelcain1225 2 жыл бұрын
Please do "Obscured"! It's my favorite Pumpkin's song!
@yabbadabba2887
@yabbadabba2887 5 ай бұрын
This song will be played at my funeral. Some of the lyrics don't quite fit, but others are spot on. The emotions on display by just the guitar work could be the reason alone.
@PinePrince
@PinePrince Ай бұрын
My favorite SP song. I remember sitting in my room as a teenager listening to this. So long ago. I got to see them live in the late nineties and they performed “Rock on” by David Essex
@Kingepticon
@Kingepticon Ай бұрын
Siamese Dreams, Dookie and the Blue Album were the first albums my little brother and I ever bought with out own money. Talk about legendary music. Even at that young age of 14-15 we knew we were listening to timeless music. That's the impact this era of music had on us. We were exposed to the 50s, 60s and 70s music and knew it would never get better than those eras. I feel sorry for kids growing up these days. Their era of music is completely forgettable.
@laurabuer4714
@laurabuer4714 6 ай бұрын
I was 11. I was already in love with rock music, thanks to my dad, and I discovered Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Rage Against the Machine, etc... growing up. But Smashing Pumpkins will always have a very special place in my heart. Today and or Rocket would be wonderful to see you react to if you haven't already.
@Ajayen--
@Ajayen-- Жыл бұрын
The nostalgia, the feels, takes me back. Their song from Mellon collie "here is no why" still one of my favorites.
@caryharper9190
@caryharper9190 Жыл бұрын
Nothing can out do the Pumpkins. When it comes to the change up. The youth! Have no clue. Of what they are missing. It's timeless. It speaks to everybody. While reminding us all! We are nobody's! We are zero's. Caught in a dream. In a dream of Siamese.
@monkeyfarm
@monkeyfarm 2 жыл бұрын
'Sculpting a Space' best description of mix/mastering, so true. So difficult to do it right.
@davidlyon3185
@davidlyon3185 Жыл бұрын
This and Soma have always been my favorite SP songs ❤ Bless the algorithm and thank you for your excellent insight!
@KiIIua_
@KiIIua_ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still here. Great dissection of probably my favorite song off of that album, these guys just had such a way of being unique and timeless
@davidmatheny1993
@davidmatheny1993 2 жыл бұрын
I love this song as a whole, but the dual guitar intro is what gets me in a better state of mind every time. I always seem to imagine myself just enjoying some peaceful time in a setting like out in the woods or by the lake, or maybe driving through some beautiful setting at sunset or night time.
@Suleclo
@Suleclo 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! Smashing Pumpkins will always be one of my favorites. Was lucky enough to see them in 2000 - one of the best concerts I've been to. Thank you!💚🌿
@matthewgarrison-perkins5377
@matthewgarrison-perkins5377 2 жыл бұрын
Soooooooo good. The ebbs and flows in this one just brings on the goosebumps.
@obliv3on
@obliv3on Жыл бұрын
i love your reactions man, you seem like a genuine and just cool guy and someone i would deff chill with and talk about life. Thank you for all the awesome and fun content.
@wesleyalan9179
@wesleyalan9179 Жыл бұрын
Good show! Thanks! When I was a lot younger, this was my favorite band, it was hard to pick a favorite song off this album, but this one holds a dear spot in my heart. I barely listen to these guys anymore. I used to listen to this album over, over, & over. And this song too, lol! Thank you for doing this!🤟
@DrJeebles
@DrJeebles 2 жыл бұрын
This has been my favorite Smashing Pumpkins song since this album came out. It also has some great memories attached to it for me. Thanks, Geebz!
@craighenry2351
@craighenry2351 2 жыл бұрын
Billy is talented, but, I think people always underestimate James Iha. Remember, Maynard chose him to play in A Perfect CIrcle. Incidentally, speaking of Billy’s talent, Courtney Love, owes him for writing the music onHole’s best song, Celebrity Skin
@johnniea4684
@johnniea4684 6 ай бұрын
True, he wrote (or co-wrote) five songs off that album. The chord progressions at any rate, not the lyrics. James didn't write or contribute to many Pumpkins songs, as he's not in Billy's class as a songwriter, both in ability and sheer volume and isn't as good a player, either, but he has a nice tone which blends nicely with Billy's more eclectic playing.
@medlinj5
@medlinj5 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Pumpkins song. Thanks for digging into this one Geebz!
@StingrayMk1
@StingrayMk1 Жыл бұрын
I'm STILL here, my man! Love your vids. Smashing Pumpkins! Love em.
@StripeGurger
@StripeGurger 9 күн бұрын
I love you, Geebz. Going back over some of your older videos, and man, I really love this shit.
@tomatocan2502
@tomatocan2502 Жыл бұрын
Siamese Dream is such a incredible album. I feel lucky to have been a punk teen when it came out. How many changes was there in Geerk USA?
@hcmofo13
@hcmofo13 7 ай бұрын
Love your content Geebz. Keep going bro!
@loboarthur
@loboarthur 13 күн бұрын
This song is one of my favorites Pumpkins' songs ♥
@thasupremeoverlord
@thasupremeoverlord Жыл бұрын
i love how you stopped it and had so much to say. you're a true mentor, repping your truths. one of the greatest most concise music reaction vids of ALL-TIME right here 💯 🔥
@jhanna1347
@jhanna1347 Жыл бұрын
I remember being 15 in my friends VW bug driving this at night to this song, amazing
@ZyKLonBē
@ZyKLonBē Жыл бұрын
There isn’t a bad track on this album. It’s probably my favorite album from that decade.
@michaeljacyna1973
@michaeljacyna1973 2 жыл бұрын
Butch Vig is low key responsible for a lot of my teenage years...
@timacann
@timacann Жыл бұрын
Makes me feel like a melancholic teenager all over again.
@michaeljamrozy4299
@michaeljamrozy4299 Жыл бұрын
Butch Vig did some amazing work with The Pumpkins
@Boabywankenobi
@Boabywankenobi Жыл бұрын
One of the great songs, this song to me sums up late october/early november...that's my Pumpkins time of the year, every year.
@killbotone6210
@killbotone6210 Жыл бұрын
One of the best albums of all time.
@ArcanesWorld
@ArcanesWorld Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving such a wonderfully educated perspective on my all-time favorite song 🤙
@SourPlanet
@SourPlanet 2 жыл бұрын
This was always one of my favorite songs, even in the massive Pumpkins catalogue. It captures everything he was trying to do so perfectly. Same could be said for Soma, I think. If anyone is reading and wants more of this vibe, check out the Aeroplane Flies high box set (many of those songs were conceived in the same "era") and the EP Pisces Iscariot. Best SP era, IMHO. ALSO, if you're wondering about that wailing high pitched noise during the "chorus" chord progression: it's a broken guitar. Billy tried out a strat (I believe in a pawn shop) and noticed that whenever he muted the strings directly over the pickup, it would belt out a shrill feedback pulse. Fast forward to writing/recording Mayonaise and he found the perfect moment to capture it's bizarre inflection. You can even hear the "note" being used throughout the song- both in the vocals and the intro/outro progressions.
@emptybraincase4181
@emptybraincase4181 2 жыл бұрын
this is the song off siamese dream that every fan only loved after a month or so of listening to album. was good to begin with, then morphs into a favorite of all time.
@Nemo.404
@Nemo.404 Жыл бұрын
For me it became one of my favourite pumpkins song since the very first time I listened to it
@stevenreech8854
@stevenreech8854 Жыл бұрын
Love it man!
@gaprofitt
@gaprofitt Жыл бұрын
This song is amazing, those two guitar parts are unreal.
@projecte
@projecte 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing another Pumpkins track!
@drtoboggan7469
@drtoboggan7469 Жыл бұрын
This song is the lullaby of my teen years!
@yrmthr
@yrmthr Жыл бұрын
One of their best songs. No question!
@CarlosLiberated
@CarlosLiberated 2 жыл бұрын
Instant transportation back to drama and lazy days in university.
@briancoller7760
@briancoller7760 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction, great song, fantastic album. I wish upon a star that you would do Hummer from this album. The last third of that track is euphoric.
@FutureExitsMedia
@FutureExitsMedia 2 жыл бұрын
THIS.
@Hagfish1002
@Hagfish1002 3 күн бұрын
These guys set there own unique sound at the time when alternative rock and roll was stepping into the forefront pretty much putting hair bands out is business so to speak … to add that these guys are extremely talented musicians.
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