I consistently get sub MOA with Federal Gold Match 168grn. It's a great rifle and my go to war .308.
@ZFlyingVLover7 жыл бұрын
Show us. Not saying I don't believe you but my wallet is . I always hear that the m1a and the AR10 are capable of 1moa but for some reason nobody is able to show us.
@GENODELMAROATL7 жыл бұрын
do you think live free armory or dimond back can compare with this riffle
@Plainsimple674 жыл бұрын
@@ZFlyingVLover WATCH NUTNFANCY CHANNEL HERE ON KZbin, HIS RIFLE IS HALF MOA AND HE SHOWS IT!!
@wcsdiaries3 жыл бұрын
do you have a link?
@barrybrian54582 жыл бұрын
I also get 1 mos out of my M&P 10 with Fed GMM 168 gr. Just my word. I don’t have any targets to show.
@danpflaum42822 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle. Excellent review and very impressive shooting. I'm sold.
@danielguadian27164 жыл бұрын
That was an outstanding review and a very good opinion on this rifle. It really is under the radar.
@Whiskey102097 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Was thinking about picking one of these up. You may have justified the purchase. Seems like for the price point, you're getting a lot of gun. No frills but good value. 🙂👍
@fakest66887 жыл бұрын
Just FYI the group was clover leafing. Not key holing. Key holing is when the bullet tumbles in the air and hits the target sideways.
@ronws20073 жыл бұрын
True. And also, the AR-10 came first. The Army was retiring the M1 Garand. Eugene Stoner had been working on battle rifles and had one in 7.62 x 51 mm NATO, meant to compete against and outperform the AK-47 and also, to replace the M1 Garand. The Garand was a long rifle and the AR-10 was more portable. However, a crap ton of politics came into play and the M14 was chosen. So, Eugene Stoner kept working and responded to the need for a smaller and shorter rifle for CQB. Like shooting a handgun round with medium range ballistics. So, his next gen, the AR-15 was a suitable platform. And that became the M16. However, he did get good results. And some AR-10s like mine (different maker) are going to do best with heavier grain weights because of the twist rate. (google what is best grain weight for 1:10 twist rate in .308 W. Basically, 165 gr or heavier is going to do it.
@codyhanthorn4270 Жыл бұрын
do 7.62 tumble often out longer ranges, or if better ammo keep straight?
@jimeastridge23457 жыл бұрын
that's my next buy I've wanted her for over two years now, I think it's the best of big calibers
@uncafunky16 жыл бұрын
Good review. Well spoken.
@holdernewtshesrearin54716 жыл бұрын
you completely overlooked the most important feature of the rifle. the FULL ambi bolt control with both a catch AND release. it has become mandatory imo and the main reason i bought the DD5V1 along with the awesome $1700 deal! i would have been perfectly content with the S&W M&P-10 though and would have come out $300 cheaper after installing a free float handguard, trigger and other accessories that the DD came with. im loving my DD5V1. its reliable and sub MOA accurate but the S&W is cheaper and lighter and its fully ambi controls are excellent.
@jakelee43727 жыл бұрын
I have heard this gun likes heavier grain bullets. Which would make sense being that your heaviest was your best group.
@NoGoBu4 жыл бұрын
That's good enough for Sasquatch protection👍
@cosmiccharlie82945 жыл бұрын
The variation in groups is from barrel harmonics. Rifle would respond well to care hand load development.
@BC-li6zc2 жыл бұрын
Would love to own one but banned in Canada. Along with almost every semi auto rifle there is.
@vince74166 ай бұрын
Mine likes the 180 grain Federal power shock hunting load.
@stillnupey026 жыл бұрын
The Smith likes heavy bullets. Pretty much everyone has found that to be the case, which explains why your groups get better with heavier bullets. So now, you need a heavy match grade bullet.
@roosterboy73576 жыл бұрын
That’s not key holing. Key holes come from 1 bullet tumbling in flight
@danmeyers7084 жыл бұрын
I have large hands and can't pull charging handle with one hand any suggestions? Fingers don't fit between scope and charger
@wooddawg48684 жыл бұрын
I grouped 1 1/2 inches with 147 at 100 yards with PMC.
@robrademan41795 жыл бұрын
1-10 twist designed for 180 grain and up.
@yt_life16107 жыл бұрын
I dont have one and maybe im wrong but Doesn't it come stock with a flash suppressor and not a muzzle break?
@SuperJuiceman115 жыл бұрын
Question: On the Herters 180gr load that you said shot the best.... you said it keyholed at 100yds. By keyhole do you mean the bullet was tumbling and hit the target sideways? Or do you mean that 2 shots went through the same hole?
@duaneelsbree34604 жыл бұрын
Keyhole is tumbling. I think he misspoke
@RealHank1791 Жыл бұрын
@@duaneelsbree3460 No he said it twice. He thinks that's what it means. He's ignorant and never looked it up. He also seems to not know a 1-10 twist is never going to shoot well with sub 165gr. Honestly that's pushing it. Also didn't know the Federal 168 GMM ammo is also a Sierra MatchKing bullet. I own the 16" version of this rifle. It will shoot well with a properly worked 168 SMK load and "Tack Drive" or "One hole" (
@sancharino4672 Жыл бұрын
@@RealHank1791 Well, while you are correct that 1 in 10 twist 30 cal is not ideal for lighter bullets. It doesn't mean they won't shoot. For example my 20" 1 in 10 loves 125 sst. Which I believe is a blackout bullet. Also shoots 110 Barnes well under an inch at 100. 110 sierra varminters after some load development will also shoot well. 155 full bore shoots great. And of course 168, 169 and 175 match kings all shoot good. One bullet that I never got figured out was 110 VMAX 2" was the norm. Jacket concentricity and cartridge runout become more important at the higher rpm's and "over stabilized" bullets. But it isn't a deal breaker. Oddly my 1 in 12 308 shoots 178 hpbt amazingly well. While the 1 in 10 is terrible with those
@NiTr0747 жыл бұрын
Hornady sst 165 grain does best for my M&P10
@thewhiteangler2 жыл бұрын
Nice rifle. What flip up sights are you using on here?
@maplelanemusic2 жыл бұрын
Nutnfancy was pounding a target at 707 yards!
@MrCozycat5 жыл бұрын
nice video!
@tonycolca22412 жыл бұрын
I Hand Load 155 and168 bullets for this rifle the accuracy is amazing I have bolt .308 none of them shoot as good as the M&P 10. CLOSE but not as good.
@Luis.M.Castillo6 жыл бұрын
So what kind of rail options do we have as far as a two-piece drop in? Is magpul the only one that fits?
@Kyle_gallegher6 жыл бұрын
Luis Castillo utg makes a cool no free float quad rail similar to the military kac on m4 carbs
@FilmThePoliceFTP6 жыл бұрын
Kyle Rice I have it it fits PERFECT
@BOYBROU4 жыл бұрын
What brand of iron sights do you have on this gun?
@Alejo__6 жыл бұрын
How come you havent changed that rail?
@Blacksheeprc20245 жыл бұрын
I use herterz in all my s&w firearms
@mattman88227 жыл бұрын
Do ar10s get dirty real fast?
@kevinyoung9477 жыл бұрын
Matt Man88 no I've had a windham src 308 and shoot the cheap stuff tho no steel and it isn't any more dirty does hit up a lot faster
@garyjcsizmar46365 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha! I harvested a lot of deer with 150 gr bullets. Mine did outstanding with hand loads but not so well with LC match.
@ws87417 жыл бұрын
Which BCM charging handle did you use? The M&P 10's charging handle was included on the list of proprietary parts. (Obviously incorrect since you have a BCM installed) The BCM web site ALSO says neither the med/large handle will fit the M&P 10 but then has a disclaimer saying "...it might..no guarantees." (Again, obviously it might and does... fit.) This is great news for the same optic and preference reasons you stated in your review. My M&P 10 arrives tomorrow and I am making many of the same mods you have completed..Free float hand guard, back up irons, and exclusive scope/mount. I'm hoping you will share which charging handle you purchased (med or large) and if any mods were needed? Are you planning to install a variable gas block? TNP suppressors failed (too much back pressure) until installation of a variable gas block solved the fail. Thank you again for a very helpful review your review... hoping you will reply. Sincerely, Ward Stephenson
@AZTrigger7 жыл бұрын
I have a Bravo Company Gunfighter 7.62 large charge handle on mine and it works fine. Not sure why their website sales otherwise - mine works just fine with it.
@ws87417 жыл бұрын
Thats GREAT to hear. Do you recall if you have a med, large, or the ambidextrous one? A video showed needing to use a dremel tool to get the handle to fit correctly. Sorry to bother you... but I plan to get EXACT model you did.
@chrisgoad21215 жыл бұрын
Radian Raptor Ambidextrous 308
@barrybrian54582 жыл бұрын
I also use the BCM charging handle. Modified just a little
@Shooter7point627 жыл бұрын
What is an optic system?
@johnbrown46274 жыл бұрын
Nikon 6×40 I believe
@deesminutemansupplywarhamm60786 жыл бұрын
Free float that barrel.
@duroisgawd7 жыл бұрын
did the bcm charging handle require any modification in order to work in the mp10?
@AZTrigger7 жыл бұрын
Good question. For me - no. I have seen other sources say theirs did but so far mine was a simple drop-in and go with no mods.
@duroisgawd7 жыл бұрын
excellent. thank you! i'm gonna go ahead and order one.
@Ronin____50006 жыл бұрын
Why aren't your BUIS canted off so you don't have to take your scope off and mess up your zero?
@CupofTea37 жыл бұрын
arent those 1 inch squares...?
@AZTrigger7 жыл бұрын
Yes- one inch squares. So at 100 yard, each square in 1 MOA
@CupofTea37 жыл бұрын
if they're 1 inch squares then that gold medal match group is definitely not 1.5 inches lol. more like 1 inch
@joslinnick7 жыл бұрын
Why don't I see M&P 10's with M-LOK rails? Is there just no compatibility between the M&P 10 and aftermarket rails.
@KDXL6537NJoy7 жыл бұрын
Nick Joslin good question. I just read that most of this rifle wasn't interchangeable with other after market parts. I don't know whether to believe them. Seeing magpul stock makes me think its that dudes personal opinion and problem.
@dallas53747 жыл бұрын
This rifle is not compatible with rails out there. I have tried Geiselle and learned the hard way.
@W1ckedAmbitions6 жыл бұрын
There are ones that are compatible but the problem is the gas length is proprietary with a picatiny top gas block and the barrel is insanely thick towards the receiver
@Kyle_gallegher6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Christian barrel diameters never been a problem. The proprietary gas length and upper reciever hinder most handguard options. Although it is dpms low profile height, most any rail will still be off quit a bit.
@chrisgoad21215 жыл бұрын
Troy Industries Alpha Rail is perfect match
@glentpollard674 жыл бұрын
Mine shoots anything. Put a new trigger in it. Shooting sub moa at a hundred. Three pigs down so far.
@carnivalwrestler7 жыл бұрын
Did you have any feed problems with the 180 grain flat nose rounds?
@FilmThePoliceFTP6 жыл бұрын
carnivalwrestler I have one and am having feed problems like crazy. Still haven’t had a proper break in, but if I get to 500 rounds and continue to have problems I’m calling S&w
@carnivalwrestler5 жыл бұрын
@@FilmThePoliceFTP Sorry for the late reply, but I never received a notification and I was just reviewing this, since I've seen so many conflicting opinions on accuracy. Thanks for the info, I suspected that there might be some feed problems. Are you still having feed problems? Edited to add: Have you tried different magazines? Sometimes they can be the problem with feeding heftier rounds. And sometimes the feed problem can be towards the end of the stack or towards the beginning. Have you noticed that (does it FTF when you first put a new mag in, or towards the last few rounds of a mag?)
@FilmThePoliceFTP5 жыл бұрын
carnivalwrestler I tried different mags, different ammo etc... I sent it to smith, got it back in 3 weeks with a replaced barrel and it worked flawlessly. I ended up selling it, though because I couldn’t put a binary trigger on it due to a nub that would keep the selector from going into binary position... built myself an aero precision and I’m more than happy with it. Doesn’t speak badly about the M&p 10 though, it’s a GREAT rifle.. just with the binary trigger I bought for it and a lower that didn’t work with it sitting collecting dust, I decid3d to do something with them.
@carnivalwrestler5 жыл бұрын
@@FilmThePoliceFTP Thanks for your quick reply. I'm looking to buy a .308 semi-auto AR type rifle, and your info will help me greatly in selecting one, and I'm leaning towards this one, but I want an 18" barrel on it. I just need a little extra zip out of the spout.
@FilmThePoliceFTP5 жыл бұрын
carnivalwrestler I think they have it in an 18inch barrel
@Jakil0077 жыл бұрын
You keep saying AR15, it's an AR10
@AZTrigger7 жыл бұрын
Yup - my bad :-)
@ArmedMechanic3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna get technical, It is an LR-308 design, not an AR-10.
@JohnSmith-rf7zy5 жыл бұрын
Its a 1moa 308 why would 600 yards be the max? That makes no sense.
@duaneelsbree34604 жыл бұрын
Do you practice at long range frequently?
@tommyroberts8674 жыл бұрын
Now that you have the ammo that the gun like, go ahead and sight it in better.
@dano77804 жыл бұрын
Almost ALL AR-10 platforms do much better with heavier bullets
@jacquesbeliveau2716 Жыл бұрын
Don't waist y time with useless comments stick with accuracy and options used,,,
@GoogleAccount-cj6gy5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get past the 4 minute mark without thinking of Darth Vader and Brenda Vaccaro. I quit watching because that hard breathing is off-putting; kinda like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXTaoqyFac2Dh9E