Smoke Grenade Comparison: IWA vs Enola Gaye

UPDATE: I made a new comparison video, check it out here: • Smoke Grenade Comparis...
In this video I am comparing two popular airsoft smoke grenade distraction devices. These are usually used in airsoft, emergency situations, and more by civilians. Enola Gaye and IWA are two of the smoke devices I am comparing - I am curious which one do you think is better? Which of these two smoke distraction devices would you choose?
Also what do you think about the concerns I shared with IWA, outside of their device itself. Would this bother you?
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[@CivilianWarrior]

Which of these two would you prefer to buy? Let me know in the comments.

[@ryanr1639]

I would choose EG. Also I do recommend you check out the battlefield smoke by sport smoke. Still 25.00 per smoke, but required minimal 4 pack. Although they burn a lot longer and put out more cubic ft of smoke. They do add shipping costs into the pack when you add it to cart. I believe it’s around 150 total.

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@ryanr1639 thank you for the recommendation I'll definitely check them out! I did want to include the EG mil-x but I wasn't going to buy one and pay the $30+ for shipping. Maybe once I can get a sponsor.

[@ryanr1639]

Mil x would be cool to see. Haven’t ordered any myself yet. I believe it’s by phone and requires more hoops to purchase, but hadn’t looked into it much yet.

[@ryanr1639]

Definitely don’t like the names and addresses on the haz doc

[@frenzyforestreaperairsoft3346]

I use Enola Gaye and hands down much better

[@DeepBlueDiscoveries825]

This video is enough for me to know to avoid IWA. If you, paid for your items with a CC I would dispute the charge to equal the amount of the single dud unit. That's ridiculous to force a customer to have to purchase more items just to be made whole.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Great minds think alike!

[@happygilmore5591]

Agreed..won’t be buying the IWA knowing they don’t stand by their product🤷🏼‍♂️

[@HaydenHKD]

But they did offer a replacement..

[@DeepBlueDiscoveries825]

@@HaydenHKD You're responding to a two year old comment dude 🙄. It's not a replacement when you have to purchase more product for you to be able to get the "replacement". That's a sleazy "to get this [item], you have to buy that [item or items]" sales tactic.

[@HaydenHKD]

@@DeepBlueDiscoveries825 I can read. Thank you. It is still a replacement none the less. It’s not that sleazy. There is a chance any ordinance may not fire. It’s implicit and by nature. Don’t be a turd.

[@bubbaholzer9983]

You’re absolutely correct about what you’re saying. You definitely saved me a lot of ass pain with IWA. Keep it going, I love the content

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you!

[@zandercoronado7811]

Pro tip for the Enola Gaye, shake em a bit once the fuse goes off. It will cause the chain reaction faster. you can also cause the chain reaction with a 2nd Enola Gaye if you happen to pull the entire fuse out when trying to light the first one. Lots of fun at airsoft events!

[@scott_hunts]

Funny how these airsoft products seem to work much better than the ones marketed for real use by civilians.

[@CivilianWarrior]

100% agree. That's why I was so surprised in the flashbang video when I tossed the taginn. I wouldn't have guessed it would be louder than the more expensive one.

[@watcheryegr]

@@CivilianWarrior you should check out tagin flashbang

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@watcheryegr check out my previous video. It's about the taginn product

[@watcheryegr]

@@CivilianWarrior ok

[@LeonK291]

@Civilian Warrior you should try the actual flashbag Taginn makes. The one you used on the previous video was one of their frag devices.

[@davidgraemesmith1980]

I've been using Enola Gaye products for about a decade never had issues with them unlike some other brands, according to a buddy who does lots of cinematic pyrotechnics they're excellent value as well as being safe enough for airsoft and paintball when others about the same cost are banned

[@brucecarson1778]

I just found your channel witg the flashback video and I got to say you deserve more subs. Thanks for your personal but to the point videos and giving transparent descriptions of the products. Keep it going and thank you.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you I appreciate that!

[@Nef619]

I'm glad I watched this before ordering, thanks

[@gunnersecuador7515]

In my opinion even though the burn time was shorter on the EG, it appeared to have a better burn rate, which results in a denser cloud. That, is the whole point of a smoke, to mask movement, or mark a position etc. I agree with you on IWA, they should have eaten the costs and replaced the item at their cost. That would speak to customers as to what kind of company they are. However, duds are fact of life. Mr. Murphy is always watching and will intercede whenever possible, it is what it is. Over the course of my 22+ years on active duty I have, myself chucked several dud grenades' as well as smokes . Shit happens, grab another and let'r rip. Good content, you could trim the fat a bit on intros but I am not at work and have time to listen. BZ.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you for your service! GoPro customer service it amazing, my camera was just hit by a ricochet. Went straight threw and completely destroyed the serial number. I sent GoPro a pic and are sending me a new one for $100 per their zero questions asked camera replacement warranty. Now that is amazing customer service!

[@zandercoronado7811]

I am not a service member, my only experience with war being airsoft or video games. But I would hate having a dud frag or smoke when I need it the most, IE under heavy fire. I get that its a fact of life, but this is what quality control is for.

[@garthhunt7238]

Looking to make my first smoke grenade purchase, and appreciate this video, very much! IWA will definitely NOT be my go to supplier! Thanks again for this video!👍👍👍

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you

[@sikleqt]

Absolutely. I would purchase 2 of each in some cases just so I can test 1, then have the other as the actual use item.

[@ryanr1639]

I agree with you on IWA. Enjoy being able to choose the amount I want to purchase. Not each paycheck can be used for a big bulk buy of a set qty. Also saw ansgear sells EGx smoke and changed it to where you had to buy set qty of 10.

[@seriouos9855]

Thanks for such a great review and calling this business out. And you’re doing them a favor as far as being a better company, some good tips for them

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you!

[@magnusmagnuson6162]

Not being a tactics snob but just FYI proper positioning of the spoon while pulling the safety pin prior to deployment would be in the palm/webbing of the hand and not at the fingers.

[@brotherbrovet1881]

Beat me to it.

[@glasstactical4428]

Dudes not very educated. They are very different items, the IWA is far superior.

[@50shadesofcerakote]

@@glasstactical4428 Literally just watched the video as to how that statement is false.

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@glasstactical4428 lol they are both intended for airsoft so how are they very different?!

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@50shadesofcerakote 🤣

[@highdesertdrew1844]

I've never heard of IWA before. I think I know why.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Lol

[@jackwong2059]

ive gotten that same list of everybodys names in my package from iwa, no clue why that is but its definitely a privacy concern

[@CivilianWarrior]

That's not good! Was hoping it was just me but that's why I included it in the video

[@maabrazelton]

i’m super happy to find you in this time of your channel, you’re getting seen in the algorithm and about to get so much more

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you!

[@nathanbarnhart2250]

just saw this as i was comparing them across websites. glad i found this. thanks so much

[@CivilianWarrior]

Glad it was helpful. Thank you!

[@DeltaD80]

Oregon coastal area.. Nice. Great video agree with you on forcing us to buy three is B.S.

[@ryans663]

Good video. Have to say It’s an interesting approach to disclose some names and cities of other customers to make a point about how pissed these same customers should be to have their names and addresses disclosed in the packing sheet.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you and I cut out more than half. It took a while to go through the whole list so I decided to edit most of it out.

[@chrissantilli8666]

I love my M14 smoke grenades!! They’re the best and I’ve tried them all!

[@tocolee6127]

Sure there are failures or duds in military exercises but it doesn't come out of the soldier's pay.

[@andrewharrison916]

Read previous comments he did get his money back on the dud device!

[@RickSanchez167]

Ive thrown a couple hundred smokes in the army and never once had a dud

[@KNIGHTFOX80]

(right, it comes out of us taxpayer's pay)

[@Tbowie13]

I agree with you, I would order more from IWA if you could mix things up and there wasn't a 3 minimum. I don't understand how their marketing team thinks this policy will make them more money?!?! Many times with products, I want to try something out to decide what I want a multitude of, rather than being stuck with something I don't need three of! Change this IWA! You'd get more business, regardless of what you think! IWA, you owe him a replacement, on your dime! On that note, I won't be using their products anymore if that's how they do business! I'll go out of my way to do business with a company that treats me right, but if not, I'm the type of person that is just done with said company!

[@umbertosorbo9151]

He didn’t mention it in the video but look at the comments he did got his money back from them for the dud device. I think you right about color option.

[@DH-xw6jp]

IWA has stupid shipping requirements (3 or more of the same products, no mix-matching), stupid shipping procedures (shipping lists of customer names/addresses to each buyer), and less dense, slower acting smoke... And thats if we ignore the dud (which, if you were on a hike and only had one with you for emergencies... You are screwed). I think you should try out the TAGinn smoke grenade (tag18), it supposedly burns from both ends to quickly create a really dense cloud. $128 for a 6-pack ($21.33 pre shipping) so it will be cheaper per unit than the IWA to boot, only a little more expensive than the Enola Gay

[@stevemontana5974]

I'm glad I watched your video to help me decide. I hope IWA watched this video and realize that each commenter on here is a potential lost customer.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Glad you found it useful, thanks for watching!

[@imune2mageRS]

are we really not gonna talk about the UFO just floating in the background the entire video?

[@CivilianWarrior]

Pls do! Lol

[@ni.ck4607]

100% agree with IWA changing that

[@poeticlydead]

From the drone view the IWA doesn't seem worth the expense.

[@FoulPet]

Nice to know who not to buy from if I ever need smoke.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thanks brother the comment. Still new to yt and learning as I go. Won't be rambling as much on future videos.

[@lehisilver1191]

I bought one at a gun show that had an expiration date I was expired that burned for 5 minutes.. I paid like $20 for it long time ago like 10 or 15 years ago.. It was for a boat or a ship or something signaling device it would burn in water.. And it would get real hot I threw it in the wheelbarrow on the 4th of July.. I was so impressed with it I wish I would have bought more

[@CivilianWarrior]

Maybe an Orion signaling device for boats?

[@tskenny4692]

We use maritime signal smokes in airsoft and they last forever, get alot more for your money than EG

[@michaelvick2872]

Those are the orange international distress signal smokes he was talking about.

[@egsmachine]

i've been happy with the EG

[@dorongabay29]

Seems like IWA smoke time was longer then Enola Gaye and it was duel vent. Btw did IWA refund you your money?

[@CivilianWarrior]

Correct and yes they did refund me $35 for the device but nothing for shipping and they refused to just replace the one smoke device like I wanted.

[@sidneycook3196]

I totally agree with you on that 👍

[@richardmartin3243]

A bright red a bright purple a bright green a bright Orange and white and white some white phosphorus wouldn't be too bad neither I'd be fun to have

[@_Acardboardbox]

From your videos you've spent a decent amount of money with IWA and potentially more. You'd think the company knowing this would just eat the $40 to send you a replacement unit. To potentially loose a customer that's already spending money over $40 isn't great business practice in my opinion.

[@joeytroutman9506]

I was already disliking them but when you said two pages of other customers names and addresses. Avoid them like the freaking plague! I'm a very forgiving person but my goodness

[@josephkendall5082]

I Definitely Agree With You!!!!!

[@victoriahedley4247]

anyone know what the life is on the EGs. when we use to train way back when i used regular fireworks stand bought smoke bombs, i would tape 2 or 3 together, put out lots of smoke and some flames, we had to be carful of the flames. the problem was they only lasted about a few years in a ammo box. about 1/2 would just flame with no smoke

[@CivilianWarrior]

EG says they don't have an expiration date. Personally I replace mine every two years at most

[@stevemontana5974]

When I order mine this payday I'm going to store them in mylar bags with oxygen abosorbers to keep out light, air and moisture. I do that with all my gas mask filters. It should significantly increase their lifespan.

[@98xj64]

I agree

[@jyack305]

IWA’s design looks way better imo.

[@CivilianWarrior]

I agree! I think I heard IWA might be releasing a larger unit that will put out more smoke but until then, I'm sticking to enola gaye

[@50shadesofcerakote]

design dont mean shit if it doesnt work. haha

[@ebayaccount675]

I agree with this

[@Awholeopinion]

Planning on going with taginn because the way iwa does there ordering

[@Fuzzy_Man-B00bs]

Hey brother, props for calling out this careless company, I just wanted to let you know that if you are mentioning the city along with the first and last names of these people, any bad actor could now easily find their addresses. I don't see a situation where you would need to do this again, but if you did I would recommend just using the first name and the state. A lot of cities may officially only have low 10,000 of people, but even larger cities like Scottsdale are still small enough that if I have their name I could probably find this guy on Facebook by looking at my friends from ASU who airsoft in northern Phoenix / Scottsdale. Just remember that even though there might be thousands of people with the same name across the US, a state is roughly dividing that number by 50, but a city is diving that number by roughly 3100.

[@samrowland2816]

Have you tried Tag Innovation grenades? I've not used their smokes but their bangs are excellent.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Yeah I have a video on the tag 19

[@Mophonic]

ita the best package packing i could ever imagine.

[@CivilianWarrior]

😂I think they have gotten better. They no longer require customers to buy a minimum of 3 of everything. They changed it to what I suggested

[@Boogra]

Have you tried Shutter Bombs? At about $10.50 per smoke, seems to me that you could carry a lot more and use them more often.

[@HaydenHKD]

They did stand behind the product, they offered to replace it with his next order. Plus 10% off…

[@noneyour2461]

same reason I can't buy from them, thanks for bringing it up

[@they_call_me_yeeter]

Maybe it's the TECC/TCCC training but.... why would you be manually clamping an artery with your hand? If you're that far out you should have, at bare minimum, a TQ on hand and preferably an IFAK, just in case.

[@CivilianWarrior]

I have a lot of TQs but arteries aren't just in spots where you can apply a TQ. Like the inferior gluteal artery that runs up and over your left hip or the interior epigastric artery. Or along the neck. In the end TQs can also fail. Having smoke doesn't cost much, weights next to nothing and can't hurt to have for other unknown reasons we have failed to imagine

[@MrShwaggins]

UFO in the background wanting to see this also.

[@yojamaca]

Yes

[@m.o.f.a2229]

Yea definitely will not be looking at iwa products between this and the banger video

[@thepatchman]

They should do wholesale pricing if you have to buy three of each item there’s a couple places I order from that do the same thing for embroidered patches with a minimum of 100

[@Skillshot_]

I’ve been using the IWA smokes for the past couple of years,I am very happy with them.

[@seanself75]

nice shot of mission valley.

[@CivilianWarrior]

I'm not confirming or denying I live there..

[@kevinmatthews9469]

I agree about IWA. What if a person wants to buy one to try the product? Greedy.

[@ricksmith7232]

Enola Gaye all the way, thanks for the great review!

[@dvgraphics7112]

obviously iwa as a company are far from professional. plus they over charge for everything. 10% off is a slap to the face imo and there is absolutely no excuse for sending out personal info of other customers..

[@tlip3480]

Sounds like a shipping Haz mat thing.

[@davidabernathy3197]

I haven’t bought IWA for the minimum purchase requirements as well. I just get smokes from Evike cause they’re affordable and taginn products prices are a much easier pill to swallow… and they’re not cardboard.

[@jayrock363]

Good point

[@danielroberts7627]

From the looks of it, the enoyla gay obviously worked better, because it actually worked….but i almost think you got more smoke out if the enoyla as well. To be fair, wind plays a big part of it, so it may just be that

[@CivilianWarrior]

True. Still waiting on my order confirmation from a purchase I did on black Friday. Might have enola gaye mil-x which has a spoon etc so more similar to IWA. If I do get them, I'll do another comparison and use the last IWA smoke I have

[@graysoncole9475]

I would buy so much stuff from them if I didn’t have to buy 3 of everything

[@CivilianWarrior]

I would have too but then I found better stuff that's cheaper

[@michaelwoods6754]

Totally agree

[@brianreynolds622]

I would bring a lawsuit against the company for giving my name address and everything out on a long list

[@hrdknox2000]

I agree with your sentiment regarding having to buy 3 of a kind, but I'd like to suggest you get an Oryan flare/smoke combo signal for REAL emergencies.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you! I have 2 in my bugout bag.

[@quintezmurry3850]

Agreed

[@a.s.3567]

Wow that was a great video on product quality. People probably thought it was a gender reveal in the neighborhood.

[@dantedamean]

I would mail a letter to all the customers addresses and let them know. Could be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Good idea!

[@CynicalRebelGaming]

Between this video and the distraction grenade video I'm personally gonna avoid IWA as well, I do both airsoft and shooting, and although TAGinn is having a hard time right now ( Russian Company getting hit by the sanctions because of Ukraine war) Enola Gaye also makes an frag/sound grenade that emits a very loud bang ( IMO it's equivalent to the IWA grenade in terms of boom ) called the EG67 Great videos, you got a new subscriber in me, look forward to future videos

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you, much appreciated! I'll have to look up the EG you mentioned. I was able to speak with Taginn, they shut down all Russian plants and moved everything to Latvia. As of two weeks ago and per taginn, they were seeking US approval to export/import their products again to the US within two months.

[@CynicalRebelGaming]

@@CivilianWarrior oh hallelujah I've missed my TAGinns, the few I have left now I only use in much needed situations ( airsoft) like clearing a fortified structure. And yeah the EG 67 is a good little grenade, be advised though it does not have a spoon so as soon as you pull the pin, toss it because it has a 3 second fuse

[@50shadesofcerakote]

EG67s are super quiet, just had one go off 2 feet away from me yesterday and I was like, "Oh ok". Where as with Taggs, that shit has made me jump and actually reconsider some decisions haha. Tagg is probably the best one time use distraction device out there right now.

[@Jake-fm5oe]

Glad I didn't switch to IWA for smokes. But I will be buying there multibangs 👍

[@CivilianWarrior]

I'd like to try those out too even after I was disappointed in their single bang units

[@charlesxavier5420]

some people just don't understand customer service

[@CivilianWarrior]

Agreed, customer service comes into play when something goes wrong. Not when you place an order and get it on time. That's just them doing what they are supposed to do lol. GoPro customer service is amazing. I won't say what I did to my brand new camera but it was clearly my fault. I didn't think they would ever replace my camera for the $100 fee they usually charge. Well, they are replacing it for free! They didn't even ask me to pay for the shipping label for me to send the damaged camera to them or for the replacement. Now that is great customer service!

[@datoneking744]

Try the enola Gaye mlx

[@rickkephartactual7706]

Thank, I think I will be switching away from IWA.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Should be getting some enola gaye mil-x smoke grenades soon which out out even more smoke than the EG18X. Hope to upload another comparison soon.

[@KenoshaKicker]

Great vid

[@bthemedia]

Have you tried Shutter Bombs? They have several different types of colored smoke and seems to be cheaper.

[@CivilianWarrior]

That company just resells enola gaye devices at a discounted price

[@bthemedia]

Civilian Warrior I was thinking that could be the case… saw similar ones online but did not price shop. Dual exhaust smoke should fill space better.

[@50shadesofcerakote]

Theyre just the mini/15sec burn time Enola Gayes

[@Danefrak]

Found a local paintball store selling these for basically MSRP!

[@CivilianWarrior]

Nice!

[@juver890]

At that cost per unit DIY become a option

[@SultanKahnBey]

I agree completely

[@TexasLegionaryGuard]

Their smoke and bangs are considered hazmat. Which kinda makes sense

[@CivilianWarrior]

Correct

[@jerrydonquixote5927]

That was a great comparison!

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you! Recently order the enola gaye mil-x which puts out more smoke, has a fly off lever etc. Hope I can do a quick comparison soon and upload that too.

[@jerrydonquixote5927]

@@CivilianWarrior that's pretty good stuff I wish it wasn't so pricey but it's worth it!

[@TimothyCaldwell-mt5zc]

IWA sending out customer information is a big no from me. mistake or not I will NEVER buy from them.

[@scottcain9384]

Agreed on the order complant

[@raulingaverage]

Thanks!

[@drone2day-theworldfromabov381]

Have you checked out the Taginn product line up?

[@CivilianWarrior]

Yup, I wish we could get more. See my other vid with tag19?

[@m.col.6440]

I'm not dealing with IWA anymore.

[@wildbillavl]

Idk if anyone else has said this, but I guess iwa listened to you. It’s 3 smoke/bangs total. You can buy one smoke, one thermal, one distraction or whatever. Still almost twice the cost of 1 eg though.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Haha yeah you're the first to say it! I did notice they changed it a few months ago, when I was thinking of trying their multibanger options.

[@theremnantman6289]

ARE YOU LEGIT? I was told I was selected a winner for a P365 XL Spectre.

[@CivilianWarrior]

What? My account seems to be getting a lot of spam comments, something similar has been happening to the 1911 syndicate guys too. Sorry about that.

[@t3hPoundcake]

You should have set up the camera to face perpendicular to the wind. Kind of hard to judge the difference when all we have is a red screen on both.

[@CivilianWarrior]

What about the drone footage?

[@paulbryan7670]

What the hell in is in the air, over his right shoulder? LOL!

[@CivilianWarrior]

If you saw till the end then you saw drone footage of the smoke....

[@SquishSquash_]

Start at 7:06

[@joearledge1]

I'd sue the piss out of Iwa if my info was given out. Clearly they don't enjoy having a business, or having money.

[@CivilianWarrior]

And I cut out more than half the names. Took me too long to read them all. They never apologized and another person commented they too got a list of names etc with their order.

[@joearledge1]

@@CivilianWarrior yeah, I'm sure those aren't the only lists of customer info they've ever sent out. Crappy products, crappy customers service, asinine rules, and not even priced competitively is more than enough for me to never buy their stuff. Giving out my private info to random people without my consent would definitely end in a court case.

[@littlebiscuits]

Why can't another company make a decent smoke grenade that actually looks like a smoke grenade?

[@CivilianWarrior]

There was one called patriot smoke. Put out a good amount of smoke but they've been MIA for a while. Think they went out of business during COVID.

[@variableknife6616]

Was going to make a large purchase with IWA… I don’t need to spend over a grand with a company that doesn’t back their products. Sitting on 12 of their smokes… Will they work? Now, who knows… No thanks

[@CivilianWarrior]

Damn, I hope they do. They did change their purchasing policy like I suggested

[@sphinx858]

Whats floating in the sky?

[@CivilianWarrior]

Think you have to rewatch the video. I explained it

[@novascotianinfj]

first one burned hotter, both same smoke imo last one just drew it out longer

[@Pnwmedia]

Tag works way better

[@ww2guy88]

Hey what's the shelf life?.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Iwa says 2 years from date on their sticker. Enola gaye doesn't have one. Going to do another comparison of enola gaye mil-x smoke to both of these. Should be uploaded within next two weeks

[@teaganwindago3132]

Good video! I will never order from them!!!

[@joshmajor8662]

Patriot gear smoke is the way to go!!! If they're in-stock Lol

[@CivilianWarrior]

Oh damn I just saw their site, thank you for letting me know about them!