Smoking Brisket Meat Side Up vs. Fat Side Up - Brisket Series part 2 of 3

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@jimmclendon5404
@jimmclendon5404 3 жыл бұрын
If there’s anything I’ve learned after smoking brisket for over 55 years is to never eat potato salad or deviled eggs at a family bbq . Someone is going to suffer. On the serious note please , always, give the elevator speech about safe meat temperature. I wrap in paper. I do fat side down yet I put a pan of water between the firebox and the meat so I’ve never spritzed and I’ve never had a dry brisket. I start at 225 for 6 hours then 250 for 6 hours, then rest it for 90 minutes. Kudos to you young guys that are in the 21st century. I’m not too old to learn . Very good content videos with great camera work. For those of us with hearing issues please do a scroll with the name of the products that you use so we do not have to “rewind” four times or call my wife in who usually says, what now ? I’ve had my butt chewed so many times that she likes fat side up or maybe meat side down , hellfire , I quit caring , yet she still eats the brisket and gives me a kiss.
@HewittsHolySmoke
@HewittsHolySmoke 3 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone is still learning even though they are all Pitmasters and been doing this for awhile
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the fun part!
@meatsloth333
@meatsloth333 3 жыл бұрын
When I smoke on an offset I do fat side up and wrap fat side up. When I do it on the pellet grill cook fat down but the I wrap fat side up so it softens up that meat side. They come out closer in texture that way. But that’s just my personal preference. There’s no wrong way as long as you love the results
@jaredandrews379
@jaredandrews379 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir! As long as it's good bbq! I'm always interested in how people do bbq!
@Bear-pw7nu
@Bear-pw7nu 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna give that a go sounds like best of both worlds
@bryan8799
@bryan8799 3 жыл бұрын
Finally made my way to your store in Waxahachie today. Great products. Happy to support a family business like Meat Church.
@rybren6172
@rybren6172 3 жыл бұрын
So I did a fat side up brisket for the first time 2 weeks ago because of your videos. Everyone asked where the smoke ring was because it was almost non existent. I didn’t have an answer for them. Now I do! Thank you for these videos. I’ve learned a TON! Hopefully I can make it down for BBQ School sometime soon!
@spacemonkey1983style
@spacemonkey1983style 2 жыл бұрын
I still get a huge smoke ring on the bottom. This video is misleading.
@judgemybbq
@judgemybbq 3 жыл бұрын
A great Brisket video... as always. I like mine with fat side up as it provides a continuous basting effect with fat and flavor.
@bmbertges
@bmbertges 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a stick vs drum style smoker. Where the heat is at the bottom like you guys called about. Would be an interesting watch
@dkrueger85
@dkrueger85 3 жыл бұрын
I go for taste/texture over presentation any day. (But damn that smoke ring is pretty lol)
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@1983mojo1
@1983mojo1 3 жыл бұрын
Every one of your videos gets me 1 step closer to a new good offset.
@2005Pilot
@2005Pilot 3 жыл бұрын
If u can get hard wood easily, enjoy fire management & authentic BBQ- then you are wasting time thinking about it. You are missing out on Fun & Flavors 😉. GET ONE ALREADY!!! You will Not Regret!! JMHExperiences
@williammyers5218
@williammyers5218 3 жыл бұрын
Great fat side up / down comparison. I prefer meat side up in my offset. Comes out great every time. Matt, all of your rubs go perfectly with briskets and that's what I primarily use. Thanks for a great product.
@GaryORiveraSr
@GaryORiveraSr 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please try this cook on kamado or pellet smokers. Interested in the difference. I love this series
@ryanr6240
@ryanr6240 3 жыл бұрын
The heat from my pellet smoker comes from the bottom so I do it fat side down to protect meat from the heat. A video showing both ways on a pellet smoker with heat from the bottom would be great.
@turbohayabusa01
@turbohayabusa01 Жыл бұрын
Pellet smokers have a fan that moves the heat around equally just like convection oven would. So you don’t need to worry about the top getting more heat than the bottom. Cook how you like but I cook fat side up on my Traeger and it comes out perfect.
@micahroberts3564
@micahroberts3564 Жыл бұрын
​@RSXXX no, just a fan that stokes the pellet embers.
@paulwhite254
@paulwhite254 5 күн бұрын
Direct heat, as opposed to offset (indirect) produces a great smoke ring when fat side is up. Best of both worlds!
@mikejanson1939
@mikejanson1939 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a Traeger. Love to see vid on that between Traeger and offset. Thanks
@PaulIsakson
@PaulIsakson 3 жыл бұрын
+1 here. Would love to see how they differ, doing fat side up and fat side down on both.
@greensquare4499
@greensquare4499 Жыл бұрын
same!
@banjopops67
@banjopops67 3 жыл бұрын
There's the answer I needed. Always cook 2 briskets 🤣
@aaronjwalkerga
@aaronjwalkerga 3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving these visiting Preachers!!
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
The associate pastors bringing the sermons!
@haroldmiller9942
@haroldmiller9942 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison! I have always done fat side up and will continue after seeing your test! The Traeger Timberline 1300 puts a great smoke ring on meat so I'll stick with it! Thanks!
@valentineconstancio3461
@valentineconstancio3461 10 ай бұрын
That's the traeger I just bought. I still prefer my stick burner though. There is something about a man making and controlling fire its truly an art. Big butt I do like the convenience of my traegy but I do it fat side down on the traeger because the flame is literally center of the brisket and it comes out great. I will not knock the traeger. Biggest butt stick burner for life though.
@christopherbaas1774
@christopherbaas1774 3 жыл бұрын
I have cooked my share of briskets but always fat side down simply for presentation. I’ve learned some thing here. I think it’s time for me to start cooking fat side up. Thanks guys!
@LPCliftonMusic
@LPCliftonMusic Жыл бұрын
I just finished trimming and seasoning my first brisket. Gonna let it hangout for about 24 hours in the fridge and then it’s going on my Pit Boss tomorrow night to slow roll all night. I hope I don’t screw this up. I’ve been doing lots of research and these videos are very helpful. Thanks for sharing info with the rest of us.
@Edible_Semtex_
@Edible_Semtex_ Жыл бұрын
How did it come out bud ? Doing my first one tmrw morning
@LPCliftonMusic
@LPCliftonMusic Жыл бұрын
@@Edible_Semtex_ well, I kinda messed up. Not bad but I could have done it better. Long story short, I had to leave it in the oven for a few hours to keep the temp right but that ended up drying it out a bit. Piss poor planning on my part and my hometown high school baseball team ended up in the State Championship game the same day. C’est la vie. I think under normal circumstances it would have been perfect. It still had great flavor but it didn’t meet my expectations nobody complained but me. LOL.
@avocadaedits2733
@avocadaedits2733 3 жыл бұрын
I understand the logic behind smoking a brisket fat side up. It has a basting effect on the meat while the fat renders during the cook. But on my smoker I have to cook fat side down because the heat comes mostly from the bottom going up. So this method, shields the meat from drying up and burning. My briskets have been all the better for it since. And that smoke ring is nice too 👍🏻
@flyboyrog3713
@flyboyrog3713 3 жыл бұрын
Love the vids Matt. One day I would like somebody to talk about what a “smoke ring” really is and that it is not directly caused by smoke. I can and have cooked a brisket in the oven and get a killer smoke ring. The chemistry of smoking deserves a video all on its own.
@derrickpomranky297
@derrickpomranky297 Жыл бұрын
The smoke ring comes from NO (nitric oxide) & CO (carbon monoxide) from incomplete combustion. I would be concerned if I was getting a smoke ring from an indoor oven, especially if it was not properly ventilated. Your house could be filling up with hazardous fumes, I'm sure you'll be just fine though. But you can also get a smoke ring if you use curing salt in your rub. Maybe that's how your getting a smoke ring?
@catchingadventures1
@catchingadventures1 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice for a video series! This has taught me a great deal of information. Looking forward to part three!
@baroy38
@baroy38 3 жыл бұрын
Like Joe said in the first video, I’m lazy and look for the easiest way through the cook. So all things being equal, fat side up and I don’t have to worry with spritzing.
@Ardie321
@Ardie321 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimately that’s what it comes down to, what works best for the person cooking it. Next time I do an overnight cook I’ll probably do fat side up so I won’t have to worry about spritzing.
@savagebastard191
@savagebastard191 3 жыл бұрын
From Detroit Michigan, I was wondering about that, thanks i will continue to smoking it fat side up!
@Hankxiong
@Hankxiong Жыл бұрын
I cook far side up, and am able to achieve a great smoke ring. But i also cook it lower and slower than most.
@shawndejong6699
@shawndejong6699 3 жыл бұрын
Well I did my first brisket on a GMG fat side down, as that's the "preferred" method for a pellet grill apparently. Cooked at 275 for roughly 12 hours to 203 internal. Came out fantastic, but compared to some of the local BBQ joints here in Ontario it wasn't as pull apart tender as you guys have also noted. So, the next one I do, will definitely be fat side up. I'll report when I do another.
@Bear-pw7nu
@Bear-pw7nu 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Shawn did you find a difference?
@shawndejong6699
@shawndejong6699 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bear-pw7nu Honestly, no. Both we're fantastic and incredibly juicy. I think it's more myth than reality on which way it's cooked. Wrapped at 165 internal with butcher paper. Cooked to 203-212 internal depending on probe tenderness.
@kevh7785
@kevh7785 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, I’m really appreciating your content and the channel! Thank you sir
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here Kev!
@peppers6037
@peppers6037 3 жыл бұрын
Do grilled brisket tacos (the best) 1.) Slice raw brisket thin 2.) Season with season all or lawrys 3.) Grill on high heat (watch for flare up's because of high fat content) 4.) Using a clever chop meat (because of toughness) 5.) Serve on grilled corn tortilla (chopped onion, cilantro, lime, and salsa opcional) Creamy green salsa (most people think it has avocado but its a lie) 1.) Grill 5 jalapenos 2 serranos 2 cloves of garlic and a 1/4 onion 2.) Once charred blend everything together 3.) Crucial step slowly drizzle canola oil while blending to emulsify (if oil seperates stop and remove excess oil and reblend) 4.) Add salt to taste (even though it has a lot of peppers it is not a very spicy salsa. Really creamy in texture)
@willwiens1485
@willwiens1485 3 жыл бұрын
Get some PT Alpine fly bait to help with those flies! Loving the series, awesome video
@brgable
@brgable 3 жыл бұрын
I cook on a WSM so I’ve traditionally cooked fat side down. I’m going to give it a try fat side up next time to see how it turns out. Great video!
@steveyork8069
@steveyork8069 3 жыл бұрын
On my WSM I do fat side up on top rack and fat side down on lower rack.The juices from the top rack drop on the lower rack and I rarely wrap at all,if I do it’s paper.
@pamelawalker9056
@pamelawalker9056 2 жыл бұрын
​@@steveyork8069 thank you for answering my question that I was about to ask. I will be doing my 1st smoke brisket and have an 18" WSM and wondering in how to cook two brisket, one on the top rack and one on the bottom rack.
@steveyork8069
@steveyork8069 2 жыл бұрын
@@pamelawalker9056 If you can fit them both on the top rack do that.If they won’t then just keep an eye on the bottom brisket it may cook quicker and you may want to rotate them.If I do wrap I wrap by the feel of the fat melting not by temperature.I want the fat to be rendered soft mushy state before I wrap.
@thebudda0424
@thebudda0424 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen it done, maybe I've just missed it somewhere down the line, but has anyone ever done a rotisserie basket to hold a brisket flat and spin it for the first part of the cook? Would that give you the best of both worlds? Would it matter once wrapped, spinning or sitting flat? Just curious. Thank you for all that you do in teaching us and the amazing products we get to use to feed out families and others with.
@valentineconstancio3461
@valentineconstancio3461 10 ай бұрын
I've done rotisserie and it took 22hrs you have to evenly cook it and it came out dry in my opinion. You have to have the oven effect in my opinion
@bernardgagnon1626
@bernardgagnon1626 3 жыл бұрын
Really would like to see comparison offset and pellet smoker. But they REALLY did look discustingly GOOD.👍🍻😁
@koltentilley5329
@koltentilley5329 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos sir!!! I do have one argument 😁 the whole fat cap up or down. I have a 500 gal offset Stick Burner. I also use a massive heat management plate in the belly so it allows me to utilize my entire smoker chamber without scorching any meat. That being said, if I go fat cap up, I will dry the meat side that is facing the heat plate. If I go fat cap down and meat side up, that fat protects the meat from the heat source.........love the new pit sir💯
@MrPitblue80
@MrPitblue80 3 жыл бұрын
I cook on a RecTec and I always cook fat side down. When I cook fat side up, the flat of my briskets take too much heat and will get crispy and hard on the ends. The RecTec's firepot is right in the middle and even with the heat shield, the drip tray, AND a BGE pizza stone over the heatshield, it still gets too hot there. And that's with me cooking a little below 250* and my brisket pushed all the way over to the side in my smoker.
@leeg45691
@leeg45691 Жыл бұрын
I have the same issue brotha. Recteq 590 and I roll 225 all the way. Point is really moist but flat gets crispy at the bottom. I was wondering what was the issue.
@MrPitblue80
@MrPitblue80 Жыл бұрын
I’ll actually cook around 190° with the extreme smoke function and let it roll overnight. Then wrap in butcher paper in the morning and turn the heat up. That’s the best way I’ve found to cook and it not get crispy.
@leeg45691
@leeg45691 Жыл бұрын
@MrPitblue80 ok this might work! So if I need it at 4pm the next day would I still put it like at midnight the day before??
@thetattooedtrader9816
@thetattooedtrader9816 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos Matt! Keep it up sir, very interesting things happened when cooked upside down. Hey can y’all post a smoked turkey leg video next?
@dcgregorya5434
@dcgregorya5434 3 жыл бұрын
Celery seed in your rub and you'll never lack for a smoke ring.
@3rdcoasttactical689
@3rdcoasttactical689 3 жыл бұрын
Helps Bark Build thats forsure
@atomicscum
@atomicscum 3 жыл бұрын
Matt/Joe Great video. I grew up on a side smoker and have always done fat side up. I now cook on a Treager and have done 3 briskets on it and have not been able to dial it in to perfection. They turned out ok and tasted good but I was not pleased as I have been in the past on other smokers. Recently I have had guys recommend cooking it meat side up, with tallow, using injections, etc. I will continue fat side up after watching this video. Both of the briskets look great. I look forward to the cooking with tallow video. Please do the treager vs big green egg vs side smoker vs barrel smoker that would be awesome.
@agalvin1313
@agalvin1313 3 жыл бұрын
Try meat side up and lower temp, like 225F vs the 275F you would do on an offset. Offsets bring heat across the top of the meat so it makes sense to go fat side up to protect it from the heat. Traeger is better fat side down as the heat source is at the bottom. It is apples to oranges and has to be based on what type of smoker you are using. Also tallow when wrapping in butcher paper is amazing..
@2005Pilot
@2005Pilot 3 жыл бұрын
@@agalvin1313 also depends on size of offset. On my small Wrangler- heat is coming from below as I have crisped up some meat on bottom when temps got too high. Fat side down works best for my setup. Longer smokers I would try fat side up first
@jmill1334
@jmill1334 3 жыл бұрын
Never have done fat side up on my Traeger, but now i'm going to have to try it! Thanks!
@bbqwithmonchis-smokinmonch9108
@bbqwithmonchis-smokinmonch9108 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that rig is awesome. I’ve seen those smoke ring comments 😂 I’m also a fat side up
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
👊🏽
@brianmayo
@brianmayo 3 жыл бұрын
I balance mine on its edge--best of both worlds!
@Brok33nrubber
@Brok33nrubber 3 жыл бұрын
“You’re not supposed to squeeze your meat but it’s so fun “ 🤣
@TBONEVIKING
@TBONEVIKING 3 жыл бұрын
Matt - loved this video. Can you do the same test on a pellet grill and see if the results are the same?
@coybarnett8036
@coybarnett8036 2 жыл бұрын
I done both way's and determined on my Pit Boss that Once the bark starts forming, I flip my briskets every 1.5 to 2 hours and spritz then also.
@kevinbongard6772
@kevinbongard6772 3 жыл бұрын
Mill Scale for the win Dream rig is right Another great side X side cook
@JayBates
@JayBates 3 жыл бұрын
Smoke 'em if ya got 'em. I'll gladly take either of those :)
@TheFPSCENTRAL
@TheFPSCENTRAL 3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing channels I’m subbed to in a different part of KZbin. Is this what you do with your scraps Jay?
@brandonthebuildertx
@brandonthebuildertx 3 жыл бұрын
It's jayyyyyyy!
@CatfishHunters
@CatfishHunters 3 жыл бұрын
Ok on my pitboss vertical I smoke mine meat up, when I wrap I put fat up to finish and rest.
@jamisonescott2300
@jamisonescott2300 Жыл бұрын
My first brisket was fat side up. I got a beautiful, pronounced smoke ring, on top, just under the fat. And this was with a pellet smoker, without smoke tubes.
@mikeunderwood7383
@mikeunderwood7383 3 жыл бұрын
Nice smoke ring but I’d go with the texture over looks.It’s like being stuck between a rock and hard place because a smoke ring adds to the presentation but is a firmer compared to the fat side up.
@BBQSchwabe
@BBQSchwabe 3 жыл бұрын
This videos are so great to see the difference about every step 👍
@valentineconstancio3461
@valentineconstancio3461 10 ай бұрын
Ive been stick burning for 15 yrs still love it the most. I recnetly bought a traeger. The traeger is good but i jabe to say it is semi direct heat since the hot pot is rigjt under the meat with a small flame. For the traeger i prefer fat side down but stick burner fat side up. Im my humble opinions
@drillsgtlangdon
@drillsgtlangdon 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison guys!
@hnaser3
@hnaser3 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad yall brought up the Pellet grills going fat side down. I honestly go fat side down on my Pellet grill bc it renders fat faster then meat side up. Let me know yalls thoughts.
@roycenelson6370
@roycenelson6370 3 жыл бұрын
I like the smoke ring but I also cook fat side up because I could be wrong but I think it is juicier but that is my opinion
@ryanpetrovic3097
@ryanpetrovic3097 3 жыл бұрын
my thought on the subject and why I cook fat side up is because the fat will travel through the brisket as you cook it keeping it extra juicy and tender. Now I will say I have only cooked one brisket so far, so my opinion isnt worth much but that's my thought, the fat and juices wont travel upwards through the brisket if its cooked fat side down.
@jakewoodisgood1
@jakewoodisgood1 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, couldn't you say cook the brisket for the first 3 hours meat side up and then flip it over to fat side up for the rest of the cook to get the best of both worlds? I haven't tried it but I've heard that the smoke ring gets formed in the first 2 to 3 hours of the cook before the meat actually gets to a certain temperature. And after flipping it to fat side up you would still get that darker bark and more tender meat. Would love to hear your thoughts on that idea.
@edancummings7738
@edancummings7738 Жыл бұрын
I like this theory. Was thinking the same thing. Trying it out on a brisket today!
@edancummings7738
@edancummings7738 Жыл бұрын
And at the end, I am going to flip it back to meat side up to cut and make that beautiful smoke ring present better!
@dustinworkman4272
@dustinworkman4272 Жыл бұрын
@@edancummings7738how did flipping the brisket work for you? What was the end product?
@edancummings7738
@edancummings7738 Жыл бұрын
@@dustinworkman4272 Worked well. I did fat down, then fat up for the wrap portion. Then turned it back to fat down to cut. Had nice smoke ring to present. Not sure until I try again if I would get any appreciable difference putting it fat side up in the beginning, though.
@victorrafa6540
@victorrafa6540 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these differences. Looking forward to tallow info.
@Epheshians6.10-19
@Epheshians6.10-19 2 жыл бұрын
No matter which way, I love my leftover brisket for home made corned beef hash
@trollsandfools
@trollsandfools 3 жыл бұрын
I made my first brisket last week on my Pit Boss pellet grill. I got that same smoke ring with the meat side up. I was so happy. I let it go to 205. Too well for me. Next time, 165. Also, I put celery seed in my rub. It has nitrates that enhances the smoke ring. Tomorrow I'm doing a pork butt. Gotta slap it first, lol.
@BG-io7ev
@BG-io7ev 2 жыл бұрын
What temp did you smoke it at ? Pulling it that early is going to be a disaster . you have to get to the 198-203 range so the fats can render down properly.
@oro5z
@oro5z 2 жыл бұрын
Next time you are cooking the meat tmep to only 165? Let us know how it came out because that sounds to low???
@stevehorvat69
@stevehorvat69 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. So meat side up produces a nice smoke ring. Why wouldn’t meat side down also have a nice smoke ring on the downward facing meat side? I would have thought any meat that doesn’t have a fat cap would absorb the smoke there no matter which way it’s facing. Thanks.
@nickma71
@nickma71 5 ай бұрын
I cook meat side up in my Weber. I think in their (Weber's) BBQ guide it mentions the smoke and heat rolling off the round top on to the meat. It is about eating not presentation to a judge.
@bigmikesheeran
@bigmikesheeran 3 жыл бұрын
When I had a Kamado, I did meat up because I felt that the bark was better. The bottom would be mushy if I did fat up.
@mikefields1776
@mikefields1776 3 жыл бұрын
Matt2: love the channel and the content which advances the evolution of flavor in our shared passion. Lawd have mercy, I believe!
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan!
@otiskeithwatkins1679
@otiskeithwatkins1679 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, if you're going to do a "direct" heat use a WSM. I've always used that type and do fat side down. People do it both ways and argue the heat comes from the bottom put the fat down. Or...the heat is diverted and comes up the side and over the top. Put the fat side up. I'll do fat side up next but never thought about not having a smoke ring but I have never even think about a smoke ring until I cut into it and see it. You are correct, you can't taste it but people do freak out when they don't see one.
@KP-bg3sr
@KP-bg3sr 3 жыл бұрын
"You're not supposed to squeeze your meat, but it's.... so fun" That literally made me LOL! So great!
@markbranch6427
@markbranch6427 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the pellet smoker brisket video.
@sidespin314
@sidespin314 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Pit Boss Sportsman Series 7 and have been thinking about this very issue you two are talking about at about 5 min in. (The issue of pellet grills and people going fat or meat up when using a pellet grill). I have done fat up the past few times, but I am considering trying meat up. I've noticed from doing racks of st. louis ribs and whole racks of wings in there, that the hottest part of the smoker is in the back wall (those little wings get pretty crispy back there in the corners of the rack). My biggest concern with meat up is that juices from the fat side will drop down into the water pan and I'll lose that flavor. I'm only 5 min into the video so I'll see the outcome here, but I just wanted to comment on how the smoker I'm using cooks. I have a brisket sitting in the fridge, so maybe meat side up kitty corner into my smoker is the next experiment for me. Edit - watching through the video, my question or observations is more about the flow of heat. In the offset, which way does the heat flow as opposed to an offset pellet smoker, or a vertical smoker? Now you're going to have to run this experiment with different cookers and heat source directions. Have fun! Keep it up. Love this series and the analysis of different methods!
@chrishenicke2052
@chrishenicke2052 3 жыл бұрын
When I see a steer I see a Ribeye then I blink and see a brisket! 👍
@kellyklotz1744
@kellyklotz1744 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had watched this before yesterday when I cooked a brisket fat side up versus meat side up for the first. Had awesome large smoke ring but the flat was dry. Never experienced a dry brisket until fat side down. Won't do it again!!
@rayaskew
@rayaskew 3 жыл бұрын
Love this series! Informational and love getting the guest cooks. And yeah, fat side up.
@koltentilley5329
@koltentilley5329 3 жыл бұрын
With out the heat management plate, the typical offset has heat that builds from the top down. With the heat management plate, your heat comes from the belly up
@chrisberry3146
@chrisberry3146 3 жыл бұрын
Dropping that Tuffy knowledge. 📝 I’m all ears
@derrelldurden8683
@derrelldurden8683 3 жыл бұрын
I have cabinet smoker with the stack on the top. I cook brisket meat side up to protect it from the heat source as much as possible. I need to do fatside up and see what happens. If i had a traditional offset id probably cook it fastside up.
@allieandbo
@allieandbo 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been told you turn it according to heat source so that's how I've cooked, which is meat side up. My smoke rings look just like what yours produced. Beautiful. Brisket is tender, juicy, hits all the notes...pretty much. But I've never really hit that good giggle brisket. Guess how I'm doing my next one?
@SinisterMD
@SinisterMD 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I don't have an offset and am a pellet grill plebe so would really like to know the difference with fat up/down. Though there is convection like with a offset generally the heat is still bottom up even with the diffuser and drip tray. Not sure if it makes a difference though. Thanks again for a great video.
@phillip11625
@phillip11625 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve cooked it both ways many times and I like meat side up just because it looks better when I slice it. IMO neither brisket is more moist than the other.
@BigDawgLeather
@BigDawgLeather 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I’m gonna continue to smoke mine fat up. I just like the way it eats.
@edmatthews4640
@edmatthews4640 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be up there visiting your place real soon. The wife got a teachers position in Waxahachie and we are moving to Hillsboro within 2 weeks time. Eager to see your place and I hope I get a chance to meet ya. love the vids and I always learn something. Now I have to get used to eating fresh water fish instead of my trout and flounder down here in Galveston. God Bless and see ya soon. USMC66'- BTW. Maybe you can talk about the difference in smokers that radiate heat from the bottom and those that have air flow from the top down. That may have a difference in how you cook a brisket.Fat side up or down!!
@jarrodstarr2566
@jarrodstarr2566 3 жыл бұрын
Do the pellet grill fat down Vs offset fat down experiment and fat up Vs fat up that should answer many questions 🤙🏻
@Independent_Voices
@Independent_Voices 2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that you do not need to trim or only trim very little when you're cooking the brisket meets side up.
@2010gt1
@2010gt1 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video of the same thing on a traeger please!!!
@Schooletto1776
@Schooletto1776 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to argue with that beautiful smoke ring.
@SinisterMD
@SinisterMD 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about that though is clearly it didn't make a difference for flavor...if anything the meat in the flat seemed more tough per their taste. Smoke rings are for show but if they don't affect flavor then I think we're overplaying the importance of the ring.
@Schooletto1776
@Schooletto1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterMD I tend to agree. I was just commenting on how nice the smoke ring looks. You definitely don’t need it for flavor though.
@2005Pilot
@2005Pilot 3 жыл бұрын
@@Schooletto1776 but... The Ring is old school and a Beautiful Thing!!
@Schooletto1776
@Schooletto1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@2005Pilot Agreed!! 100%
@matthewflores3553
@matthewflores3553 3 жыл бұрын
Always watch Meat Church Videos!
@TheDarienJim
@TheDarienJim 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Loving the color shine on the Mill Scale.
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
We wiped her down with beef tallow.
@shalamigri
@shalamigri Жыл бұрын
Just a thought, but maybe try smoking the brisket fat side down and then wrap it fat side up. Also, maybe smoke it meat side up for 5 hours and then go fat side up until stall temperature is reached.
@ThaGreatestAlexander
@ThaGreatestAlexander 3 жыл бұрын
what happens if you flip fat side up after your smoke ring and bark develop and then wrap fat side up aswell… maybe avoid spritzing but get a pronounced ring
@mrod1975
@mrod1975 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the pellet vs offset comparison!
@brantlittlejohn3856
@brantlittlejohn3856 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta go offset vs reverse flow , stick burner vs stickburner
@texasbradley
@texasbradley Жыл бұрын
If you're on a pellet smoker meat side down is the best way to get a good smoke ring. Now that I have the new Camp Chef Woodwind 36 with the smoke box I can get a healthy smoke ring no matter which side I put up or down.
@370375
@370375 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and love that cutting board
@jlpowell8432
@jlpowell8432 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you cook a brisket on a Kamado and critique it. I have a kamado Joe and LOVE IT!!!
@kylekromer8047
@kylekromer8047 3 жыл бұрын
I have a vertical smoker, and I still have always smoked fat side up. That said I tried hot and fast once and the bottom 1/2" of the brisket was like eating jerky, maybe meat side up would have worked better there??? But fat side up 225-250 is still just killer on the vertical.
@askarchris
@askarchris 2 жыл бұрын
“You’re not supposed to squeeze your meat..but.. it’s so fun” 😂
@Metal_Auditor
@Metal_Auditor 3 жыл бұрын
With a kamado grill, if you’re using a heat deflector, the heat probably will be more intense at the top, so fat up is the way to go. Same with a kettle. It’s drum smokers where you get more of the benefit of cooking fat down.
@JorgeMartinez-ji1nw
@JorgeMartinez-ji1nw 7 ай бұрын
What about turning it half way through? Start fat side down. Maybe you get a bigger smoke ring but also the benefits of fat side up later in the cook?
@khristopherbourque4221
@khristopherbourque4221 2 жыл бұрын
I always do fat side down, I use a offset cabinet and I am going to try the fat side up This week. My bark set nice but never a really dark set bark and it drives me crazy, because I want it.
@tarawilliams6375
@tarawilliams6375 3 жыл бұрын
Meat up sounds strange. Fat side up or fat side down ahahahaha…loving the content!
@savagebastard191
@savagebastard191 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the fat renders into the meat with all that smoke flavor!!!! Game changer, get you some beef tallow and set in a pan in your smoker amd smoke it at the end of smoking your brisket before wrapping pour it all over that beautiful delicious meat🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 so good👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@rix480
@rix480 3 жыл бұрын
Saw your comments on some of the "little guys' " channels ...good lookin' out, man. Also loving the new Mill Scale beast and videos/products you're putting out there - great stuff, keep it up! I go fat cap up on the kamado, since the heat deflector makes it hotter from the top down if placed on the upper rack in my experience. Fat side down on the Gateway Drum Smoker does make for a noticeable difference with the heat coming from the bottom ...know thy pit, I suppose.
@MeatChurchBBQ
@MeatChurchBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
👊🏽
@stephenveerasammy3074
@stephenveerasammy3074 3 жыл бұрын
Great content! Can you do traeger vs big green egg?
@meredithflynn9076
@meredithflynn9076 Жыл бұрын
I see that this video is a year old; I have just recently gotten into smoking briskets. What a labor of love. I have an 18 pounder dry brining in the fridge. I live in Key West, Fl so I don’t always have the option of a prime brisket. Hence why I am doing a dry brine. We have choice mostly, unless I go to the butcher and order a prime. Beyond my means. Is the dry brine going to improve tender and juicy? I’ve smoked 3 choice briskets without brining. I use my Masterbuilt 560 gravity. My smoke ring is amazing….I’m tender-ish and pull apart-ish. Just trying to improve and work with what I’ve got down here. We are literally the southern most point; then there is Cuba 😳. Any advice is appreciated. 10:17
@deez3913
@deez3913 Жыл бұрын
Do you have Costco? They usually have prime
@noahi23
@noahi23 3 жыл бұрын
Would it make a difference if you used foil like in Part 1? I feel like the fat down brisket would come out just as tender as fat up.
@xiholliday
@xiholliday Жыл бұрын
I will be going to Zavalas to try one of these briskets
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