SMS vs. NES Part 1: Double Dragon

[@AlphaOmegaSin]

Double Dragon is still one of the all time best beat em ups. Really hoping they eventually make a Double Dragon Neon 2

[@jonathanjimmyshearman2500]

Im hoping for a Double Dragon RPG.

[@ArabKatib]

Rinry you make KZbin such a delight to watch! :-)

[@SharifSourour]

Happy to own the SMS version in box!

[@Hunt4Yoshi]

WHY U NO TALK ABOUT SEGAS FM CHIP THAT MADE IT SOUND LIKE A GENESIS TITLE

[@stradlemonkey444]

I had the SMS, the rest of the neighborhood NES. They had a 1 player Double Dragon with muddy graphics and altered levels. I had 2 player Double Dragon with great, bright graphics and levels that followed the arcade perfectly. That is something SMS deserves more praise for: accurate arcade ports. sure the graphics weren't arcade perfect, but level design was! Shinobi, Vigilante, DD, Time Soldiers, Altered Beast, Golden Axe, R-Type, Choplifter, RASTAN! (my favorite), Rampage...

[@Cameroo]

I got a good chuckle out of the elevator gag at the end. Nice job and great video comparing the two games!

[@14catorce]

It is rather curious in Spain everyone use to had Spectrum, wasn't like that in the islands? I guess SMS and NES arrived late here. Most people went straight from Spectrum to Megadrive and SNES.

[@thegreatgambino]

Great review! I had so much fun playing both of these versions growing up.

[@antlit1766]

You are beautiful, Rinry! Thanks for what you do, all your videos are really pleasant to watch. You know a lot about games and have a great sense of humor. And a very cute voice. Wishing you all the best!

[@RyuxChun-li1985]

I subscribed to your channel just because this video was so well done. ty you brought back so many good memories

[@JoLiKMC]

You have a very soothing voice. Your review/comparison was also quite informative and interesting. I'm glad I stumbled upon this video.

[@Riverhill]

Most fun and very informative! Muchly enjoying your series, you're easy on the ears aswell :)

[@zayzstation]

I liked the Sega version better for three reasons: 1) Two player co-op (I use to play the game with my brother back in the day) 2) Unlimited continues for the first three missions (you could have a LOT of fun screwing around). 3) NO platforming sections (it was a pure beat em up, like the arcade). I STILL like the Sega version better. Granted, I will agree that the hit detection for most attacks is weak (except for the jump kick. That attack ALWAYS worked). NES version has better hit detection

[@GXSCChater]

Technos always upgrade the moves and smooth out physics when porting to nes, its the only versions that run 60fps and has the best collision detection.

[@NeoGeoNinja81]

I don't think there are any matches where the NES versions don't come out on top. Honestly, regardless of how faithful or unfaithful to the arcade these ports were, the NES had the most enjoyable versions of all 3. It sounds almost blasphemous to say, or even think it, but I even think the NES versions are the definitive Double Dragon titles > the arcade versions! Double Dragon II on NES is just insurmountable imo as the best DD of it's time and one of the best NES games ever, to boot...

[@engroga]

Master System version wins easily. The main feature of the game is the 2 simultaneous players. The NES version should be called "Alone Dragon".

[@jonne719]

@ZeldaMario24 or no wait forget my comment!!! the song is from Double Dragon 2 Nes, it is the ending theme when i serched it.

[@SignOfTheTimes008]

best way to hearts in nes is punch and move. You can get all 7 hearts on the first screen, but most people probably know.

[@smokeyflea]

The soundtrack for these games never fail to impress me.. Also, great video!

[@StephenAlexWalker]

Funnily it was the complete opposite in England, no one had an NES it was all Master System and the various home PC's.

[@LCardoso17]

Every game I played in both NES and SMS, SMS was always better, the only thing I missed was in Ninja Gaiden's cut-scenes in the SMS version, because the SMS version of the game was perfect.

[@WeskerSega]

@Blueberrypassion The video is playing the game with FM sound enabled, which is only possible in Japanese Master System consoles and emulators allowing the possibility. You probably are playing the game with the default PSG sound of the console, which lacks that door sound.

[@JMFabiano]

What's Billy and Jimmy doing in the Impact Zone?

[@D3stinySm4sher]

Once again, great vid, Rin and friend. Hope RMC gets this on the site soon for the GoNins to check out! :) I love the random word bubbles that show up. It would've been easy to overuse them or underuse them but it's just right and they always brought a smile to my face when you did use them. Good stuff, I'm glad you got tied into GoNintendo or else I may never have found your guys' stuff!

[@WeskerSega]

@Nintendavin I bet the video is merely using an emulator with the FM sound option enabled.

[@pliniomsann]

I had the SMS version and in my opinion is superior. Better graphics + 2 players = more fun. I played for months with my friends, something that NES never could make happen...

[@Adrians_Ideas]

doesn't her youtube picture explain that?

[@MegaGoat]

The jumping reverse kick in the SMS version was in the arcade Only 10 jumps are required in the final mission to activate unlimited continues

[@Mike.Garcia]

the versus mode on NES, is not "Okayyy" :P

[@matthewjchu]

probably the cutest sounding game review/comparison i've ever heard

[@iProgramInCpp]

What?! 720p HD quality inside a 2009-2010 video? How?

[@Azaelx13]

an angel from heaven has come down to earth to review the best retro games in the world

[@TXFDA]

Ha, so I'm not the only one that didn't know there was a Sega Master System.

[@UltraLuigi]

I was expecting some kind of side by side playthrough of both games but this was far better. It was a well thought out review/comparison.

[@Jest]

Huzzah, that was a really good review. Well put together and felt balanced.

[@shadowboss3]

@jjjred1987 Her name is Lindsey, her stage name is Rinry. And yes I think that she is Canadian

[@misc4jb]

Great review, very thorough. As a kid I used to argue endlessly about which was better as I had it on NES and a neighborhood kid had it on SMS.

[@loveandrockets4life]

I wish you guys would do more!!!

[@howardmalone3]

still have my original sms version i got when i was a kid in box with instructions

[@ThatOneSeong]

4:58 If I remember correctly, it was just because of coloring/palette issues with the NES hardware. This also explains the lack of simul-2 player in the main game, but don't quote me on either of these.

[@zeddtheguru2882]

Yes, it is.

[@sonicmario64]

You can actually pin your enemies in the NES version? I didn't actually know how you can do that! :o

[@AlanDeath1511]

Thanks for your Review. We are working on a Clash of Titans (for the 5th episode) between the both versions in our Podcast which will first air on April 10th. Would you mind if we mention your review on the podcast as a research? Thanks!

[@Link2466]

It's a real shame I never owened a copy of Double Dragon back in the day. Great comparison, Rinry! I enjoyed it!

[@AtroPunk]

Excellent comparison. I hope you do many more videos.

[@kyatos77]

amazing review, very nice shots and comparison. i love this work, is excellent: i'm gonna to check all of your videos. greetings!

[@ik1llpeeple4fun]

That door opening does sound like a fart tho.

[@DTysonator]

The NES version is actually my favorite of the series, so I'm glad that you also appreciated it more than the Sega Master System version :).

[@jonathannintendonerd]

What about another technos game renegade? they have it for both the sms and nes. or Rampage, both for sms and nes. SMS version has Ralph the rat.

[@decapattack]

I remember playing this game at the arcades and then.... Final Fight appears. I was so frustrated that my Double Dragon 2 copy was nothing even close to Final Fight...

[@tightlypackedcoil]

The sound without the FM chip is better. You must be playing on an emulator, unless you somehow acquired a US SMS with a sound chip installed.

[@Stier19812002]

The woman who explains us everything about double dragon has such an unbelievable sweet voice. At the end you see that she looks that sweet that she sounds.

[@DoctorTalon]

I like how you used the sound of the SMS port with the FM-Chip installed! Though an expensive upgrade since it can only happen through modding, it sound better than the Genesis version. I know, that port was unlicensed, but it's still worth noting for looking/playing closest to the arcade.

[@CandyMali9]

great comparison, very informative and funny at the same time

[@Blueberrypassion]

I have the master system version and the door opening sounds nothing like that on mine. Might just be your cartridge

[@JerryTerrifying]

Awesome I've always heard that the SMS version wasn't as good but never heard why. Excellent video!

[@Kipu2021]

Looking forward to more of your wonderful videos :)

[@drgroove101]

great comparison review cutie! This should be a cool series reviewing the same game on each console. My favourite of the series is double dragon II for sure! Favourite music is double dragon II stage 2, oh yea! Whats your fav?

[@Joeyboots80]

Still alive? I hope so.

[@colliric]

@stufaman Shinobi was a great Killer App for the SMS.

[@MrAwsome514]

I seem to be having some difficulty with my Power Base Converter on my Genesis. On every Master System game the left side of the screen seems to have about a 0.5 inch gap between the edge of the screen and the edge of the game being displayed. Genesis games display properly however. Anyone got any ideas what might be causing it? Or at least if there is a name for this particular problem so I can look it up myself?

[@quipher]

I recently bought my sms copy and i thought it might be defective because of the sprite flicker. Great game though

[@tightlypackedcoil]

The sound on your copy is very, very different from the sound on mine, likely due to the presence of an "FM" sound chip on your Master system (or the emulator if that is how you recorded the footage). The doors didn't sound like flatulence when I played it.

[@DeathShouldTakeMeNow]

1:54 Wow, almost 30 years later and I find out you can pin enemies and punch them in the face in Double Dragon. I'm gonna have to download an emulator and a DD rom to try it out myself.

[@themachine8277]

for real. I've never seen that one before!

[@SDSOverfiend]

7 heart.. Stand over the enemy and just press down lol

[@Nightsorrow1]

@jimmanjones I disagree, the SMS version its a better port of the arcade (especialy if you have the FM Sound chip).

[@stradlemonkey444]

I must say that the SMS version did have some flickering trouble, but my copy plays smoother than the one filmed for this review.

[@MrCopyrightViolator]

Okay... I'm watching this vid for like the 4th time. Sure, everyone loves Double Dragon, and the info is fascinating, but I can't get enough of your VOICE. Can you just admit already that you're a professional voice actor? I think we could all sleep better knowing this was the case...

[@rinrygamegame]

My favourite is definitely the song at the beginning of Mission 4 on Double Dragon for the NES, which is commonly known as Stronghold :)

[@IIG]

The Master System version is leaps and bounds ahead of the NES. What I wanted was a game that was as close to Arcade perfect as possible, and Sega delivered.

[@mexicanwaluigi]

I was curios what emulator did you use to record the SMS version? cause the sms version actually has far superior sound if your emulator has a YM2413 sound chip function or if you play on a japanese console or you mod a non-japanese console with a YM2413 chip. But yeah the elevators still sound like crap, literally.

[@SeraphXion1]

This girl's voice is unbeliveably adorable, cute, charismatic, I could never grow tired of it. Great review too.

[@RuneyProductions]

My first double dragon experience was on the b/w game boy. From what i remember the stages were a bit different from the NES version which i bought on Wii virtual console about a year ago for a nostalgia rush.

[@MrAwsome514]

Aside from having better graphics the Sega Master System also output RGB video signals natively. You would have to modify an NES to get anything better than composite out of it.

[@jaycee237]

Double dragon trilogy will be release on ios soon!!!

[@satansbacon]

I could listen to her all day long

[@Magnus1718]

Love your video can't wait to see what you do next. What about Gauntlet or Ghosts 'n Goblin

[@Destide]

I have the 2600 version diagonal down to own

[@colliric]

I had this game, I have to wonder if the flickering was a problem of the NTSC version, I had the PAL version and I don't recall having such problems with it. The game was awesome. By the way the NES version is pretty great too though, I liked the port differences. Ports of arcade games used to have so many differences on each system back then.

[@aliguytorDX]

Awesome. You make the best retro gaming videos on youtube. I'm really looking forward for more videos.

[@Namadu7]

Rest in peace, Kyuubi.

[@mrfuzzer1]

Well depends on if you count AES as a home version or not since its really the same as Neo Geo mvs. Just got a hold of it and its really fun. Not at all like the other home versions, i havent played all of them though so i could be missing something good.

[@giantenemycrabX]

this was a really good video. Well done.

[@beatrix1120]

were is part two?

[@brazilmugenteam]

oh the old 30 reverse spin kick trick :) I did it a lot when I was a kid :)

[@McAster99]

Nice review, hope to see more of you on Retroware.

[@eb937]

What about the Sega Genesis version?

[@joeds_]

@jonne719 thanks!!! ive been finding that for years

[@dad7275]

please review the Atari Lynx version.

[@stufaman]

@colliric Shinobi was awesome.

[@distortioncharizardalive]

is that ulquiorra on your picture

[@MrAwsome514]

One thing that I really liked about the sega mastersystem is that it had RGB output through it's 8 pin mini DIN connector out the back. Plug in an SCART cable and plug that into an adaptor to convert it to component (or just stay with the SCART if you are lucky enough to live somewhere that SCART TVs are common) and you have the best damned clarity you can get with an analog setup. Not to mention Space harrier 3d was a very fun game.

[@GXSCChater]

Sluggish controls, bad collision detection, awkward animation like kissing headbuts? Farting sound doors? Oh wait it has 2 players, Yep true to the arcade!

[@donovanjd3]

great review. picked up the Master System version shortly after view...super cute, and amazing voice too :)

[@kinmanyuen]

@dragonfire836 luckily.. her voice compensated that..

[@willix2]

@willix2 sorry I mistaked. Rectification: SMS was tecknically better.

[@teknifix]

I used to have the model 1 sms and double dragon. I don't remember any flickering. I did sell it when I was 10 or 11, so over 20 years ago.. perhaps I just don't remember. I liked the sms version better.

[@Kyle0073able]

it's just you.

[@jonne719]

Yeah What song it is at 2:37 ?

[@dinkyflix]

Not a bad job on the video. Makes me wonder if James Rolfe influenced you a bit ;) Just a little tip: I'd recommend using a better mic for your on screen bit as on camera mic sounds a bit under par with your VO mic (and also adds an echo.) Also, you might consider adding a light to brighten up your shot :) Good job though!

[@ThatOneSeong]

Thats because the Neo-Geo version was based on the DD movie, not the original arcade game, thus it counts as a spin-off game (Like the movie). Also, on an unrelated note, wouldn't SFxT count as Street Fighter 8? (At least if you count all releases on consoles after SF4 as sequels) it sounds ridiculous, but it could happen at some point if Final Fight was originally SF2.