I love how Dagda is so good in this game that low-turn-count strats need to specify that they’re not using him.
@russmcmacken9001Ай бұрын
Honestly I don't find anything useful about dagda that another unit cant do better, hes mostly in my party for danu to use the gauge skill.
@cantthinkofbettername5065Ай бұрын
The gauge skill is the reason his absence is worth acknowledging.
@ababyharpseal6534Ай бұрын
@@russmcmacken9001 Fair enough, but Dagda was an absolute godsend for me when I was dealing with Masakado (even without the gauge skill) thanks to his passive skill proccing at an opportune moment. He seriously kept Masakado asleep for two full turns!
@Enchilada1994Ай бұрын
@@ababyharpseal6534 Lucky! It only happened once for me, then I got my ass obliterated. ...in Casual Difficulty.😢
@Mega1UpManАй бұрын
Man I really wish Dagda was better on his own terms. Lost Hit is so cool, but I feel like it should pierce or always crit to have it be like actually useful
@mrhbombman2 ай бұрын
A Young Man and his Giant Blob beat up a Guy with Tattoos and No Shirt. In all seriousness this was a cool setup. Atlus really went wild with the innate passives. Has led to seeing a lot of demons getting use when normally wouldn’t in Vanilla.
@Kiri68419Ай бұрын
Thanks and THANKS SIX MILLION! I wanted to beat Demi on my first run through in COC, purely to gain access to his bank account. I wasn't getting anywhere even on casual with what I had, so I scrambled to make what's seen here and quite easily followed along! (helped that I had half the stuff i needed in the party with me, though I did need to use my stockpile of almost 50 insence, but only used half of it after grimore save scumming, much like you noted in the desc). And to put the rest of this into words: Demons HATE HIM! Learn how this one Naohobino made 6 figures in one day using this one weird trick!
@acidgod9072 ай бұрын
My man CTOBN
@HispachioZ2 ай бұрын
MAGAfiend is something don't know possible
@baguettetheweirdguy25292 ай бұрын
He's not wearing a maga hat lmfao, it's the cap that one kid wears in Persona 5
@HispachioZ2 ай бұрын
@@baguettetheweirdguy2529 😯😯 LMFAOOOOO how can I see with that amount of pixel
@baguettetheweirdguy25292 ай бұрын
@@HispachioZ You can literally just check his profil and see a bigger profil icon
@bothdoorscares38782 ай бұрын
Interesting. By all accounts, you can add an extra 5% damage by removing Arahabaki for a Slime at the last hit when it's set up. Not a necessity but it helps for reliability's sake.
@cantthinkofbettername50652 ай бұрын
True, I wish I thought of this sooner. I believe you could also swap it for Huang Long to get a slight bigger overall boost, as 2.1 x 1.06 > 2.2 technically. Or actually, Bicorn would be a bigger boost than that, giving the last hit an overall 7.381% damage boost. EDIT: when I said 7.381%, I think I punched the wrong numbers into my calculator. It's actually more like 4.884%, as opposed to Slime/Black Ooze/Siegfried giving 2.326% over what I did
@bothdoorscares38782 ай бұрын
@@cantthinkofbettername5065 Wait, I'm not comprehending this. Why Huang Long? Doesn't his innate passive only work for Multi-Hit attacks? As for Bicorn, is the critical damage boost really worth it? If I have the right idea, you should have a 190% damage boost (since Bicorn only has 2 weaknesses) multiplied by 1.1x. And I don't think that's stronger than 220%.
@cantthinkofbettername50652 ай бұрын
compared to Slime's 5, so you go from 2.2x to 2.05x. 2.05 x 1.1 = 2.255. Bicorn's innate is only insufficient to out-perform Xiezhai as Gogmagog support.
@cantthinkofbettername50652 ай бұрын
Huang Long's innate has been grossly mistranslated and misunderstood. It's like Nyami-Nyami or Zaou Gongen, but for other party members with Omagatoki effects.
@russmcmacken9001Ай бұрын
@@cantthinkofbettername5065 This is the first place Ive heard this and it makes so much sense in my testings im mad i didnt figure it out before, ty so much!
@Mad77max7717 күн бұрын
If you don't challenge yourself for 1 turn kill, here is a strat *anyone can pull off 1ST CANON 1ST RUN !* The 1st turn to set things up: Shiva for minimum Defense, Arahabaki used Pierce buff, skip turn with the hero, switched 4th demon with Azazel to lower Attack and switched Shiva for Nahibeeho. 2nd turn is the last one : Nahobeeho uses Strategize, switch Azazel and Tzitzimitl back and forth (don't need Belial since Defense is already at minimum), then enter Amanozako to switch debuffs>buffs and Gogmagog to do 6 Figment Slash at 11000 damage each (He has 130 Str 95 Speed). I should have done that earlier. The hardest part was to beat Shiva, and give Null Physical to most demons.
@azchhnАй бұрын
Sorry for a dumb question but why do you switch nahobeeho in and out after attacking?
@cantthinkofbettername5065Ай бұрын
To refresh Impaler's Animus on Gogmagog
@garlanramadhan4291Ай бұрын
is gogmagogg with figment slash really the best for this strategy? what about keraunos instead as you can use charge and it may also crit 100% of the time with 24 demons in stock.
@cantthinkofbettername5065Ай бұрын
Demi-Fiend's not in your stock when you fight Demi-Fiend, and you want a full party of guys ideally (Zeus, Arahabaki, something to boost Zeus damage) with that setup, so it's at most 21 in stock. Assuming I use my 4th slot for Glasya-Labolas (who gives Zeus 1.5x crit rate), then Zeus still needs 155 Luck to hit 100% crit rate into Demi-Fiend. 155 Luck Zeus with a reasonable Strength stat isn't feasible without incense. Gog's damage multiplier is also over 2x, which more than makes up for the weaker Charge
@garlanramadhan4291Ай бұрын
@@cantthinkofbettername5065 Oh, does gog's vengeful might also count for the ailment weaknesses?
@shmurple7953Ай бұрын
@@garlanramadhan4291yes it does, which is why xuezhai affinitoes buff it the most
@Mad77max7717 күн бұрын
@@garlanramadhan4291yes, that's why it's even better to have the Cai-Zhi (the sheep) essence on the hero, it makes him very weak, but helps Gogmagog a lot !
@homerlol90582 ай бұрын
How does dagda cheese this fight? Or why you the no dagda tag?
@calvaflow3232 ай бұрын
Im assuming its because of his unique magatsuhi skill which refreshes all of his press turn icons, essentially giving you twice the opportunities to attack
@cantthinkofbettername50652 ай бұрын
ya Dana's Wisdom (the Dagda + Danu Magatsuhi skill) resets the press turn counter, and can also be looped for a grossly extended turn. Since Dagda is DLC, saying "no Dagda" is more or less equivalent to saying "no DLC", for people who perceive DLC as "cheating" or "pay to win".
@homerlol90582 ай бұрын
Thank You both :) I did not know that Atlus really went bonkers with some of the magatsuhi skills
@russmcmacken90012 ай бұрын
@@cantthinkofbettername5065 How would you generate enough magatsuhi to loop it? I assume it would take careful setup.
@cantthinkofbettername50652 ай бұрын
You need to set up 5 demons to kill themselves to refill the bar, refilling 15% each. If Nahobeeho is out when you use Dana's Wisdom, it's possible to have 25% or more still available after using it the first time. It's something you'd do pretty much only with strategize active.
@ArthurKH358.2Ай бұрын
No Dagda? Gimme some time to grind and I can demolish my way through just by using Beelzebub, Konohana Sakuya basically Idun on steroids. Donum Gladi and Masakado
@vanilla895611 күн бұрын
Well did you?
@ArthurKH358.211 күн бұрын
@@vanilla8956 change of plans I did this with Agrat, Sandalphon and Metatron for Almighty attacks. Forget buffing my way through I’m basically brute forcing with Almighty spams. Metatron’s Almighty attack crits thanks to Sandalphon and Agrat can simply give herself a crit. I simply equipped Lunar Hurricane and Moonlight Frost for the heck of it
@DistressedCrab11 күн бұрын
How’d it go
@ArthurKH358.211 күн бұрын
Change of strategy. Lunar Hurricane and Moonlight Frost. For teammates I have Agrat, Sandalphon and Metatron to damage my way through. Figured trying something else because Masakado is too broken and then there’s Dekaja and Dekunda