What if Goku Stayed DEAD Forever? (Full Scenario - Ft. SaladSaiyan)

[@SmugStick]

Here is the other collab I did with Salad, where Vegito stayed FUSED forever! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqjcppycjq92bqM

[@Youngturntsnipers]

@UC_HSqiX7Ko9LqVLwpo9xgLg satyed

[@Youngturntsnipers]

⬆️⬆️

[@cainku1883]

Love the videos SmugStick when will part 3 of what if Goku and vegeta went to the Past

[@SmugStick]

Cainku Plus Ultra Soon for sure. Might be the one I make after next week

[@cainku1883]

SmugStick alright Thanks I love your videos my friend

[@SaladSaiyan]

If I were Goku I simply wouldn’t die. I’m just built different.🥶

[@ClubberOntop]

Not different *Perfect*

[@VV-qi3wx]

Lol

[@allmight1hero380]

@@ClubberOntop nice 👍

[@theultimatememelord5494]

DH productions, is that you? Also, how does Goku have SSJ3 after just 9 months of being dead? He said that he hadn't had much practice with the form by the Buu arc.

[@ClubberOntop]

@@allmight1hero380 lol

[@revolt23]

24:34 "IS THAT ME?! IS THAT ME STRONGER THAN ME!? I'LL KILL ME!"

[@mattalcantara4317]

i trained whole year yesterday

[@TheUSM25]

@@mattalcantara4317 oh you think your being cute

[@syedmajidhassan4051]

This comment chain is way too good

[@MegaKazooRider]

@Casual Bejito *insert 69 seconds of semi-perfect cell fighting vegeta here*

[@Artsig06]

Trunks: arent you two married?! Vegeta is that some kind of food?

[@Darkspine501]

"He'll see them again when they die." That's got dark quick

[@alex-sun_]

Fr god damn

[@yamahakid450f]

"I'll see you all again, when you die... See you guys soon!" Krillin *gulp* "Wait, what did he mean by that?"

[@flippant5138]

@@yamahakid450f rreeeeeaaaal soon

[@Infamoss_Arch]

Heh, I guess you could say Gohan killed Cell single handedly ;)

[@SmugStick]

Ahhhhh

[@Yea6er]

Heh I guess you could say gohan single handedly killed cell (better way to say it)

[@dcnation1558]

Bah dum crash.

[@Celerott]

You really went out on a limb for that one huh? 😏

[@dcnation1558]

@@Celerott He did.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

You'd think they'd try playing avoidance with Jiren once they realized who couldn't be beat, and just wait out the clock.

[@lordvasha5246]

They didn't even do that in cannon

[@yamama5998]

@@lordvasha5246 Yeah but Goku was the Strongest in U7 in cannon. In this they're dumb asses decided not to be smart.

[@doritos4956]

@@lordvasha5246 guess they are all stupid in all timelines

[@cheeze3939]

Goten: il revive u tries to steal his halo*

[@SmugStick]

Lol

[@cheeze3939]

@@SmugStick i have question can u make bardock king of all saiyans perhaps

[@diceuuu4012]

pimp king homies theirs this kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpy6Z6WveJidbqc Not by the same person but it’s still bardock as king

[@Stormy120]

Lol

[@Someguyyt1]

Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kushagrakishore627]

Man I think there can be an alternative and better ending to this, basically goku tells Vegeta and gohan about the fusion technique since he did learnt that, and use that against jiren to fuse gohan and vegeta to defeat him, and then gohan wishes for all the universes to return

[@believevoice9354]

You guys had so many cool chances like giving Goku ssg before the tournament and giving it to goten and trunks

[@xeno4693]

Ssg goten and trunks? That sounds corny asf.

[@taylormccall7224]

If you like that thought you should watch salad Saiyan's what if Goten trained like goku

[@crown926]

@@xeno4693 straight facts, they got school and shit no time for rigorous god training.

[@b4nished595]

What about gogeta

[@RamielEdits]

Hell, everyone could have became ssg, i don't see why they *didnt* do that.

[@zombieford]

Do what if Yajirobe didn't eat half the huge pot of senzu beans in the Original Dragon Ball.

[@erijak2935]

unlimited regen

[@lordmorgrath6618]

Abuse of the Zenkai boost

[@TheDickHandler]

Uselessness degraded from 70% to 69%

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

Kid Goku would’ve eaten it instead

[@the_negus]

@@TheUncivilizedNation no kid goku wasn’t that dumb he even told yaijarobe not to eat that much lol

[@SacredSaiyan]

Loved watching this series, Watching you and Salad Saiyan really helps me improve on my own What Ifs

[@jueezzzz]

Imagine how powerful Goku would be if he came back to life then because of all those extra years of training.

[@phakamilesiyo5313]

Your some random guy

[@amolvijayachandran]

@@phakamilesiyo5313 and you aren't?

[@phakamilesiyo5313]

@@amolvijayachandran and you aren't

[@invictus6176]

he'd be weaker since dead bodies are more durable than living ones

[@lancetheking7524]

@@invictus6176 imagine if he got specifically revived for the ToP, with his halo and then somehow goes mui because Beerus and Whis magically trains him lmao

[@disorganizedbones8139]

And Gohan got God Ki and it's pretty cool *then everyone died*

[@linkfan6555]

Yeah, it sucks.

[@SmugStick]

Lmao

[@kushagrakishore627]

Man I think there can be an alternative and better ending to this, basically goku tells Vegeta and gohan about the fusion technique since he did learnt that, and use that against jiren to fuse gohan and vegeta to defeat him

[@LibrarianOfLeng]

Suggestion: What if Goku was raised by the Red Ribbon Army

[@zombieford]

That's already a thing. Search up What If Goku became an Android.

[@SmugStick]

Kinda already made it. What if Goku was turned into an Android.

[@marquisthomas4550]

Yeh

[@abhabh6896]

@@SmugStick Its not same. We want the RR army from OG DB. Would he become a general?

[@foquitajeej2399]

That just be communist Superman

[@bullymaguire632]

9:34 This thing in portuguese means "now, we are going to visit Zeno-sama"

[@MegaKazooRider]

in a sarcastic matte :wow thats really cool

[@alicio0059]

Crl menor, muito foda

[@judge3318]

it would be classic to see gohan hugging freiza :D

[@xnekomcx6353]

Going to make a few points for myself on things that I noticed that didn't set too well. First point being with Gohan not unlocking his full potential. Despite being dead, we've easily seen Goku (Dead) still use instant transmission to show up to the Kaioshin World in DBZ, which will lead to Gohan unlocking his full potential. I'd frankly say that once Goku picks up on Gohan's increasing ki due to his training in the same realm he's in, he would show up. Once his power unlocks, he'd more easily finish off Dabura once following him to Babidi, and that encounter stays the same. Now that his full potential is released and he can access it, this easily allows Gohan to quickly gain strides in power as well as allowing him to fully access all his raw potential at any given time (which would make Vegeta even stronger anytime the two may spar, seeing as Gohan would be far above Vegeta. If not sparring, than at least motive Vegeta even MORE to train harder than ever before.) With continuous training, that potential always increases therefor he's always peaked, always able to tap into his absolute 100% (will not effect the events of Frieza returning, would still go the same way as it had with this What If's Gohan offing Frieza before he reaches his Golden Form.) All while without needing to master anything or worry about stamina or ki loss. And supposing Gohan "could" theoretically or actually could tap into Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 on top of this, he only grows exponentially stronger from there. (So no need for a god form.) This may also effect how the Multiversal Tournament plays out, as seeing Gohan accessing his power allows him to push Goku to SSB, which for this specific time frame prior to the TOP, I'd say it would be no different- Gohan would at the very least would match closely behind Vegeta's power. Again, proposing the idea that he can tap into ssj and ssj 2, he would easily become overwhelmingly more powerful than Hit. Or just like this What If, if he can't stack ssj on top of his full potential, he would be knocked out and tell Vegeta about the time skip which results in Vegeta narrowly beating Hit. Next point: The Goku Black (Or Rather Vegeta Black) Arc. An issue with this is the very beginning, revolving around Vegeta fighting his imposter, Zamasu/Vegeta Black. Vegeta, unlike Goku, takes more pride unto himself and how far he's come. Seeing someone steal a Saiyan's body and the fruits of it's training, coupled with that Saiyan being Vegeta himself, I don't see Vegeta taking that first encounter the same way Goku did. Vegeta would simply end the fight and kill Black then and there, the transpiring events move forward as expected, Universe 7's Zamasu is erased and Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan still go back to the future, use the sealing technique and hand Zamasu off to Beerus and Whis. Thus starting and ending that Arc. Lastly, The Tournament of Power. After the events of the Multiversal Tournament, I would imagine Zeno "might" conceive the idea of hosting his own. While Zeno was probably intending to erase more universes down the line, he wouldn't have done it for probably a long time. The only reason the TOP happened was due to Goku mentioning another tournament similar to the Multiversal Tournament and his going on to want to fight other strong opponents- to which Zeno granted as it allowed him a more entertaining way to remove more universes. Without Goku being involved in these events, I believe the TOP wouldn't happen and DBS would progress to Moro as it is now in the manga. That's simply my take on this What If, just a few details that immediately caught my attention. I hope some people enjoy this little spin on the What If, my take on it, on how things would've more logically played out in my personal opinion. Regardless, SmugStick and SaladSaiyan still did a good job, and I appreciate they're work. Keep it up guys *Thumbs up*

[@anmonkey2314]

Why did you spend so much time writing this .-.

[@xnekomcx6353]

@@anmonkey2314 It actually didn't take very long if you'd believe me

[@anmonkey2314]

xXNekoMC StudiosXx so copy and paste?

[@xnekomcx6353]

@@anmonkey2314 No? I just typed it all out o.O

[@anmonkey2314]

xXNekoMC StudiosXx ok

[@SirJorb]

Wait, I thought in canon, Gohan agreed to the tournament due to Videl blackmailing him about her secret identity, and then after he rounds up a few other people, THEN Goku's like 'sure, I can enter too!'. Wouldn't it be like that, without Goku popping in?

[@paozu1152]

that is what happened

[@diceuuu4012]

34:39 Thxs a lot jiren you had to be selfish 🤦‍♂️

[@diceuuu4012]

This “what if” was interesting still

[@toddpeterson8222]

So basically if Goku had stayed dead, everyone would’ve been screwed

[@PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay]

Pretty much

[@NolDragon]

Imagine Gohan would have gone and revived Cell for the Tournament.

[@mutasimmuhammad9672]

Doesn't seem like a bad idea. He can produce more fighters.

[@tonyblank2022]

Maybe they would have won then XD

[@vegitodev]

2:18 It’s soo funny how there’s a picture of goku smiling and a picture of goten smiling but then there’s some random photo of baby goku crying

[@ClubberOntop]

Love your work man keep it up !

[@JohnZ-]

I gotta say thanks god Vegeta didn’t get the constant Humiliation this time

[@virtueofdragonsdreamer7783]

I... I just got a notification for this... 5 days later...

[@lordH3957]

Love these videos

[@Frenchdatfry]

Perfect title: what if Vegeta was the main character

[@B88]

Hey.. an anime where the end is the end🤣😂🤣love this guy's👏👏👏

[@mymanpant9433]

Love your work keep it up

[@fimble_wimble]

Gotta love Salad popping up

[@VV-qi3wx]

Nice vid smugstick

[@13mamala]

Trying to get a heart I see

[@detectivenuthead7869]

I do see how this story would end this way, since they did confirm this in the anime

[@pralayajin-woo2700]

I was hoping Golden Frieza would break the z sword, and once Frieza was defeated he could get mystic that way. Both working as ironic since frieza would make a remark about not dying by the sword again, but him breaking it actually made Gohan power surpass even Vegeta’s, once the ritual is done. Also he can stay in a mystic ssjg like state all the time, training the power meditating, and controlling it at all times, while he’s at home, and at work. (Maybe not at work, I can see people finding it weird he just have red eyes, and hair, but than again you have launch, and people like Bulma with blue hair.

[@steviedchannel2574]

I like this what if I think you did a good job I think the ending is absolutely perfect with how the story went in the show I think you did a good job on this one. So I give you attaboy

[@elvisushindi2584]

Awesome video, it's sucks that in the end everyone died.

[@MountainDewIdaho]

It’s funny that for most of this what if, I was wondering what goku was up to in other world.

[@amaansiddiq4361]

While fighting Jiren ,Vegeta and gohan could have used the potara earings to fuse

[@dianne74]

I loved this so much good job it made me so happy just watching every second of this

[@samuraixsquadgaming111]

I wouldn't say the Vegeta Black thing would exist unless he fought Zamasu to get him to want to steal his body, Gowasu should be able to talk some sense into him.

[@kpounder4908]

Goku only met zamasu because of goku black appearing in the present. So he’d do it anyway

[@samuraixsquadgaming111]

@@kpounder4908 no because goku fighting Zamasu is the straw the broke the camel's back. He was already pissed at mortals, but goku was the breaking point.

[@llIllIlI]

Without Goku, there is no Tournament of Power. The Omni King was simply just going to destroy all the universes.

[@yamahakid450f]

No he wasn't! He only said that so the fighters would have motivation to give him the best entertainment possible. That's why he foresaw the winner wishing for all the universes to be restored...there was no risk. if they didnt do that, then they'd be erased for making a selfish wish. If he truly wanted them destroyed, he wouldn't want a mortal to make that wish and definitely wouldnt punish them for wishing for something different. If they did anyway then he'd erase the universes again after the wish to restore them was granted ... You think making that wish just magically made him forget he originally wanted them destroyed prior to the tournament? Of course not, he never had any intent on erasing them permanently to begin with. It's crazy how much goes over people's heads when they literally state it....

[@jahnelss]

Tarbel: who are you Whis: come with me if you want to live

[@zonoroarozo3306]

Dude!!! It was going so well until the ending. You should have had Goku taught Gohan and Vegeta fusion so they fought Jiren.🔥🔥🔥

[@ARs0null]

Love the Tiny Vegeta cameo 🤣

[@carololela5793]

Man This is awesome

[@SmugStick]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ozzythepoet]

Soo...what the dragon ball series wouldve been if it werent the fans years back then

[@stephanieacuna2120]

If that story was really canon that mean dragon ball would have ended a long time ago thank god for goku being alive

[@daboofhigh6907]

Hi I love your videos.

[@13mamala]

Trying to get a heart I see

[@saada5369]

13:14 smugstick: from the prince of all sayians Windows: fuck the video activate windows

[@mushfiq258]

i loved dis series now i can watch it 5 more times

[@dannemmanuelpasumbal6633]

@SmugStick I just don't get how base Cabba would win against ssj2 trunks like nani tf how?! Add that to the fact that Goten and Trunks trained with Gohan in this what if so they are stronger than their original selves so how? I don't intend to put some hate on your video. I just really want to understand and be enlightened. In fact, I really love these what ifs so please keep up the amazing work. Thank you very much!

[@tristanmabbitt9828]

Vegeta blue @ vegeta black: “Is that me?! Is that me stronger than me?! I’m gonna f*ckin’ kill me!!”

[@marquisthomas4550]

Suggestion: What If Only Gine and Goku went to earth

[@zlord3604]

In my opinion the tournament of power has been done because of goku so i think they will not be a tournament of power and they will not be a zeno expo cause they never braught zeno from the future

[@locosword3985]

Goku: I don’t wanna come back. *Buu, Frieza, and Zamasu walk into the room.* Goku: Still think i shouldn’t come back and get that new hip and cool super saiyan blue that Vegeta and Gohan have.

[@b_is_alive]

I accidentally came her searching for what if Mystic Gohan fought Majin Vegeta since Goku stayed dead... but got here to this gold mine of a what-if instead. nice one guys. too bad Jiren fucked it up.. R.I.P Dragon Ball Verse

[@MrSplosh]

The ending could of also went the fusion way where goku gohan or vegeta gohan fuses with potara

[@tristan9648]

So there's no possible way Gohan or Vegeta could've gotten ultra instinct?

[@ppnexus2000]

Gohan, maybe. Vegeta? Hell nah

[@tristan9648]

@@ppnexus2000 also Goku was still there. Just because he's weaker doesn't mean it just wouldn't happen

[@ppnexus2000]

@@tristan9648 well you didn't mention goku so I assumed you wanted gohan or vegeta to get it.

[@tristan9648]

@@ppnexus2000 oh sorry

[@craigshiman6421]

And no way goku could have taught gohan and vegeta fusion before the top

[@Aero_96]

WTF THEY ALL DIED!? Omg, terrible ending but make so much sense. Anyways please make more of “what if” videos, i really enjoy them.

[@gamingandthings907]

I love both of you guys

[@13mamala]

Trying to get a heart I see

[@Kozi15]

Wait up just a thought In this Timeline Vegeta had more a LOT more training with Whis than the original timeline right. 1.) On Vegeta Black Arc, wouldn't Vegeta unlock Super Saiyan Blue: Evolved in here? Especially when Black would decimate Vegeta at one point and starts telling him that he stole his body and kill BULMA and TRUNKS. Vegeta sure would be enranged and push to his limits and remember Vegeta is training a so MUCH MORE with Whis in this timeline so he is much more powerful and had a lot more mastery of his Blue form. 2.) Is there a possibility of Vegeta unlocking Ultra Instinct in this timeline? The Offensive side of Ultra Instinct rather than Goku's Defensive. Since he trained a lot more with Whis in this timeline and Whis was trying train both Goku and Vegeta in the original timeline explaining the concept of Ultra instinct. If so MUI Offensive Vegeta could decimate Jiren? 3.) Is Goku stuck with SSJ3 with Kaioken? Goku always tends to break his limits, and being dead for years all he do in the afterlife is train right? I guess he can't go SSJ4 because he need his tail?

[@plummerelijahep]

He either forgot or dragon ball fans in Japan wanted goku. Because gohan was supposed to have been that dude after raditz

[@mugiwara-no-lucy7802]

Silly question but who does the narration at the beginning of the vid? XD

[@SmugStick]

mugiwara-no-lucy @DragonBallUniversity

[@b4nished595]

I didn’t like this tbh, I thought you could add gogeta

[@allroadsleadtozero]

Is this a joke Or...

[@paozu1152]

goku: dead goku stans: I didn't like that....

[@lemonz829]

Man that was darker than most dorkly animations

[@gonsoku7701]

This is every persons dream who says goku is overrated

[@StrungArcher0]

This is interesting

[@8thgod769]

Dang I thought goku was finna show everyone his ssj4 transformation and I was finna be like “HES REALLY SUN WUKONG THE MONKEY IN HEAVEN NOW” but naw

[@bblanks9726]

Goku staying dead after the Cell Games and NOT coming back for the Buu saga would have been good for me.

[@AreteG]

Wait... Goku was dead when he visited Gohan on the Kai's planet. So he would've broke the sword.

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

Should’ve had Goku say dead when he died with Raditz

[@OmKumar-xx6cd]

then vegeta would have just fucked them and the end

[@Jason5818UI]

if goku stayed Dead it would've been dragon ball 💤

[@Doro237]

Gohan:*uhm*

[@Jason5818UI]

@@Doro237 what about Gohan?

[@dakshkothari1200]

I liked but wtf was the ending holy crap

[@itsjayhere246]

Here's a good idea for a future what if 'What if Captain Ginyu was in the ToP'

[@elainesalinas7996]

ChAnGe nOw

[@lordmorgrath6618]

Cassualy swaps biddies with Jiren

[@itsjayhere246]

@@lordmorgrath6618 He would probably try multiple swaps just to mess with people that much more

[@lordmorgrath6618]

@@itsjayhere246 That would be smart. Plus I just rewatched the Goku Vs Captain Ginyu fight and can't believe I forgot that when he swaps bodies Ginyu can't access all of that person's strength.

[@radfordra]

I don't think the Z Sword would have stayed intact as it was broken in the future trunks buu arc

[@Artsig06]

25:40 Vegeta: I trained all day yesterday

[@excl1ps385]

my dude zeno just said,¨ no "

[@ultimatecantante1414]

This is awesome ! I got one ! “ What if goku trained by merus prior to moro”

[@shreyazgowda1050]

According to akaria goten was supposed to be the new face of DBZ after Goku died

[@ibroplatin4915]

Would it be better? Maybe.

[@moisesquerales6870]

Can you do part 2 what if DBS goku and vegeta going to GT and what if gohan went ultimate in the cell arc?

[@tans2155]

SALAD'S HERE!!!!!!!

[@clarenceoduor6504]

SmugStick Can you pls continue what if Goku landed on Kami’s Lookout with Plus Ultra man I love that what if it’s one of my favourites

[@SmugStick]

We are planing on it

[@jahnelss]

Do the tournaments happen If Goku isn't around to suggest them?

[@nathanharris25]

Can you do a what if on what if ben 10 was in dragon ball

[@OnyxXThePunch]

Saiyan , Majin , Namekian , Arcasian , Yardration , Tuffle , Kai , Demon , Metalman and Hit's race gets there racial abilities and there basic transformations . Would be interesting

[@YoungMoodYT]

32:47 bruh I expected ss4 not ss3kk

[@benmills4358]

Plus I do have 1 question. Why didn't Universe 7 try running out the clock vs Jiren in the TOP..?

[@mango481]

What if Gohan unlocked Final Gohan in the TOP

[@SILENCE_THE_MEDIA]

When Dragon ball gt came out it clear that dragon ball was completely dead if not after gt ended everything died.

[@SILENCE_THE_MEDIA]

Everything has an ending.

[@slash8614]

Bro vegeta is gonna get pissed 💀

[@benmills4358]

Super-KaioKen is cannon. Used during the Otherworld Tournament vs Pikkon.

[@TankYes]

That was filler

[@Terry-rb2br]

Alt title: What if Goku fucking died?

[@michaelmurphy4451]

Ugh maybe gohan and vegiita could’ve used fusion in the torment of power to beat Jurien with Veghan or Gogita... I’m sure that gohan would know about as he’s train with Kai’s

[@anupgulhane3821]

I have a question, what if Goku Reincarnated into Goten

[@chadmemerthegreat]

But wouldn't goku tell them about metamoran fusion?

[@batguy39]

Vegeta should have gone Evolution against Jiren, he was stronger after all :v

[@sir_hamk3644]

That wouldn't matter jiren could have just knocked him out of the ring

[@andrewtodoit123thetryer9]

Yeah but even that would not get jiren at full power, plus goku is the missing link to it all

[@sir_hamk3644]

@@andrewtodoit123thetryer9 ye

[@b4nished595]

They could’ve just fused into gogeta

[@phakamilesiyo5313]

:v

[@tomaschavez6424]

I was hoping for ssj4

[@iqgaming3916]

Suggestion:What if gohan died instead of goku

[@Capt_Nirox]

29:19 my ass thought it was gonna be Cell

[@fear2963]

oops shoulda been more specific i meant what if goku stayed dead in the saiyan saga

[@reddragon100]

Everyone on earth would be dead

[@blueengineer4554]

If goku stayed dead then vegeta would be the new main character ......... like that’s ever going to happen

[@andrewtodoit123thetryer9]

So.....we now can't complain about goku saving everything cuz if dead it will end us all