Snake River Expedition Closed - Two Cedar Point Themed Attractions Closed in Two Years.

NOTE: This video is based off the ride being removed from the website. NOT AFFILIATED WITH CEDAR POINT IN ANY WAY. Snake River Expedition at Cedar Point is closing after just three years. Forbidden Frontier closed last year after also operating for only three years. This video explores potential reasons why as well as explains these two attractions that were personally my favorite attractions at Cedar Point.
Dedicated to all those involved with the design, operation, or creation of these two creative attractions.
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• Cedar Point's Forbidde...
• 2019 PointCast Forbidd...
• Cedar Point's Forbidde...
• Cedar Point's Snake Ri...
• Cedar Point Live Enter...
• Snake River Expedition...
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Music used under license from Epidemic Sound, songs listed in order:
Tumbleweed Town - River Run Dry
Rub Off on Me - River Run Dry
Over Cripple Creek - River Run Dry
Lucky Bird - River Run Dry
I Believe in New Beginnings - Constellate
Snake River Expedition Real Estate Pre-Show and Exit Song - Cedar Point

[@CoasterCollege]

This video is more of a one off passion project, as personally these were some of my favorite attractions at Cedar Point. Let me know what you think!

[@MegaSpecies8472]

I have been a CP fan for almost 60 years. I had no idea that these two attractions existed. I had seen the forbidden sign many times, but thought it was part of Halloweekends. 😂

[@coasterboomer1067]

I feel they definitely could have kept snake river expedition as just a calm boat ride. It would suck not having the story but its would be better than nothing. And if forbidden frontier could have lasted (at least the playground) if they squeezed in a new bridge near camp snoopy .

[@pdotjdott]

These attempts made it clear that CP wants to enter the Disney-Universal type market of *experiences* rather than rides. But I think it’s much harder to slowly introduce these things to an audience rather than opening an entire themed experience like Disney and Universal did.

[@CoasterCollege]

Definitely agree, I don't think these concepts are dead though.

[@ErisIsAnAbomination]

Especially when Cedar Point appeals more to thrill-seekers. I have nothing against either of these attractions, but they’re just not what I go to Cedar Point for.

[@TheNinjaDC]

I think a big issue was the park they introduced these in. At Knotts or Kings Island, two more family oriented parks, I feel these attractions would have been a huge success. Cedar Point, the most thrill oriented park in the chain, trying to draw in more families with this was like trying to put lipstick on a pig.

[@CoasterCollege]

@@TheNinjaDC I think you're looking at this through a coaster enthusiast lense. All parks attract a huge family audience, CP more than most due to the resorts.

[@TheNinjaDC]

@@CoasterCollege They are not all the same demographics. Knotts & KI (and really all the ex-Paramount parks) heavily emphasized family audience, while Cedar Point focused on there thrill ride collection. It's like comparing Disney to Universal. They both target family, but Disney defiantly skews lower in target age. Kings Island has an award winning kids area, and Knotts was the OG camp Snoopy. Cedar Point just has 3 mediocre kids areas spread randomly on the right side of the park. Look how crazy popular the return of antique cars at KI. These two attractions would be obscenely popular if KI added them to Planet Snoopy & river town.

[@dominicjannazo7144]

Count me in the crowd of never knowing this even existed. That said, i go to cedar point for the coasters, so now that it's closed i want to ride it in retrospect, but don't know if i would have at the time even if i knew about it.

[@javierpowell4705]

i do hope this doesn't discourage leadership against theming. it's a lot of effort to get a land themed, staffed, and popular enough to return profits. I live on the west coast and likely will never afford a trip just to go to Cedar Point, but competition in the theme park space is sorely needed. Disney is outpricing everyone and Universal is poised to directly compete with them with Epic. More competition and more experiences are golden in my book. Hopefully leadership at Cedar Point learn from their mistakes and open up better themed lands in the future.

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

Don't bet on it. The park is definitely on the wrong track, no pun intended, but Kings Island is SOO MUCH BETTER THAN CEDAR POINT. They have it down, what's the problem at Cedar Point? Same owners too.

[@aikohikari6587]

I know that some attractions make less money than others, but as a park you need to have a good mix. The park I work at keeps removing it‘s darkrides for new roller coasters. They are awesome. But people are starting to complain. Familys want some more relaxed attractions and even enthusiasts would be happy with a new dark ride.

[@oriolesongbird5224]

I feel the issue with Cedar Point specifically is they're not really known for being the most family-oriented park. There's a couple kiddie rides, but Cedar Point is known for being for the thrill seekers and most families who are interested in this type of attraction will likely go elsewhere unless they're in the immediate area. I do really love themed attractions and I hope they can succeed in the future; it just feels like Cedar Point doesn't have that reputation and it will be hard to build it up.

[@aaronpatalune4363]

Spot on. Only two coaster enthusiasts in my family of six. Parks need something for everyone.

[@jamierusovick-smith6422]

This makes my heart so sad. Our family took an impromptu trip to Cedar Point in summer of 2022. The boat ride was the only thing we could ride all together and it was my kids’ favorite ride of the whole trip. 😢

[@tylermannor4290]

As someone who has been going to cedar point annually for most of my life, I didn't realize just how much I had missed out on. I regret dismissing both of these attractions back when they were still around. I'd love to see more videos from you in this style, talking about other defunct attractions and their history, could still work with the whole "education" theme this channel has going on. Great video overall

[@winnifredtorrence8418]

I'm very sad about the Snake River Expedition closing. I remember the paddle boats and then there was another boat ride about 20 years ago, I think. I was so happy that there was another boat attraction opening. Hopefully they will come up with something new. We liked Forbidden Frontier too. And yes, the bathrooms were awesome. Haha. I've been going to CP for nearly 50 years and it's fun to think back on all the old rides. Disaster Transport was my favorite. It was great to get out of the sun for awhile.

[@SunnylandProds]

Aw, man! I’m not surprised that Snake River Expedition is closed, but I’m disappointed. It was like Jungle Cruise meets the Great Movie Ride on the American Frontier. It felt like a Knott’s attraction! I think it just didn’t have great capacity, and was likely expensive to run.

[@InsaneCoasterJunkie]

Forbidden Frontier was one of my favorite attractions at Cedar Point and it was a great side quest to do when crowds were busy. Actually still have a gold nugget from my first experience in 2019 and some posters. Never got to ride Snake River Expedition though which I do regret

[@blainebasil6577]

Yeah it was so fun but I never did snake river expedition

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

You didn't miss anything

[@couch2558]

I really enjoyed Snake River Expedition. I liked the story that wasn't always the same, and it was a nice way to take some time sitting down and get a break, like after eating a meal.

[@DoomPlague]

I was impressed with Snake River Expedition when I rode in 2022 but I convinced my sister's family to wait a good bit to get on it in 2023 (they were only running a couple boats) and it was a super watered down version. Instead of actors playing out story, it was mostly just the boat driver making dad jokes as we passed the various animatronics and effects, some of which weren't working.

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

It was a stupid thing to do especially for the big 150th anniversary at a park that's known for roller coasters and thrill rides. For what that ride cost, they could have put in 2 to 4 good flat rides like at Canada's Wonderland or even the two put in by Zamperla at Kings Island in 2023. This ride was another money pit, like Shoot the Rapids, which was called Shoot the Budget by us employees.

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Your analysis was spot on, You also described why sci-fi shows get dumped for sit-coms and why sit-coms get dumped for reality TV and why reality TV gets dropped for shorts on Tick Toc and KZbin. If you can get a profit for cheaper then listen to the prophets and go for it they always say, and to heck with high quality that costs a fortune.

[@cedarpointless]

I agree with so much of the sentiment around this. We didn't discover Snake River Expedition until the fall of 2022. But once we discovered it, we loved it and rode it multiple times that season. Once we came back on in spring of 2023, we were so disappointed to see how much of the ride had been cut. We only rode it once that entire season because of that. I really hope that they don't give up on this type of ride because I think the original version of the ride worked extremely well, it's just that it was too costly. If they could figure out a way to make it cheaper but with the same level of experience, they're really on their way to something great!

[@roller_coaster_geek]

I got on both of these over 2 visits to Cedar Point, and I was a fan of both. Forbidden Frontier was a nice break to just walk around in the shade and talk to the actors. Snake River was also a nice change of pace on a particularly busy day. Was confused and sad to see them both go, but this video definitely explains a a lot.

[@kittikat4124]

It's a shame these didn't work out, but hopefully Cedar Point takes what went wrong with these and comes up with better experiences in the future. I feel like Cedar Point could do themed attractions if they're done right and well advertised

[@InterestsMayVary2234]

We rode the Snake River thing. It was kind of fun and a good chance to sit down and relax. We were there for three days though and wouldn't have bothered had we had fewer hours to spend there.

[@chessie2003]

I really wanted to ride Snake River Expedition, but the wait times were always horrendous. Hard for any guest to justify unless they're avoiding all the thrill rides.

[@chekherjoy]

Forbidden Frontier was super awkward as an introvert. At Knott's I could talk to a character or guide in Ghost town, but then go do something else. Also Knott's has more self guided experiences. Like explore the museum then go ride Pony Express. Forbidden Frontier felt more like we need to do all this at once and also didn't know where to start. We did 1 activity and they sent us to go look for a character and we had to talk to 5 other people to find the one character. So we did 2 things and were done. And it was so far from everything that we weren't going to naturally stumble upon it again unlike Knott's. Integrating these types of experience into Frontier Trail would have worked better. Like have these types of experiences at the Glass blower, barnyard, fort, and experiences we already have. I will walk the Frontier Trail a couple times every visit to get from Millie to Maverick. I didn't know there was a climbing structure on the island until we did Forbidden Frontier. Giant playground could have attracted families by itself if they knew it was there. Snake River Expedition was fun, but hard to find. A little awkward going into Camp Snoopy to find it. It's similar to taking the train through Boneville, but not as iconic.

[@chessie2003]

I'm still so bummed out that CP closed their museum for good.

[@chekherjoy]

@chessie2003 Me too. I've seen other people's videos and pictures of the museum. I vaguely remember the old/ vintage frontier items. I don't remember the park specific and coaster items. Maybe the frontier stuff was somewhere else or the park stuff wasn't always there? I would definitely remember the Gemini cars as a photo op.

[@what1fun1v3rs3]

The first version of this ride seemed great but hopefully they can try again with a themed ride like this

[@scootergirl3662]

Those attractions are really cool, but I wonder if it is better done as its own thing with its own company dedicated to that.

[@Slytheringrrl2]

A lot of it was $$$. They really cut the live E budget so of course Forbidden Frontier had to go. And once it went, I knew the boat ride wasn't long for this world. Really disappointing. The theming and interaction was super fun.

[@UltimateCoaster2Creations]

I remember these attractions. They were amazing. My family and I are cedar point regulars so we went all the time. My sister loved forbidden frontier so much my mom had to drag her off the island to go get food

[@aaronpatalune4363]

My daughter would spend all day at forbidden if we’d let her.

[@davegladieux3077]

yes THANK YOU very much for documenting these things !!! to many things get lost FOREVER ....... Dave from Toledo, Ohio.

[@kaylawhipple7570]

These attractions were part of me trying to convince my not coaster fans parents to visit CP one day with me. Guess i have more work to do now.

[@LeftForTheBirds]

I went to Cedar Point twice as a child and Paddlewheel Excursions and the railroad were my favorite things in the park. I went just before they closed Paddlewheel Excursions, then again a few years later during Dinosaurs Alive. I remember being incredibly disappointed that the boat ride was gone. I've always loved the themed areas and going there as a child kind of sparked an interest in dark rides/animatronics/themed rides. I've been going to Cedar Point annually for the past 3 years and was very excited to learn that the boat ride was back, but it was closed every single time I went. I go to Cedar Point because of the coasters but the added elements of frontier town and the railroad have always been an integral part of the park to me. Like the other comments have said, I hope this doesn't discourage them from utilizing themed lands/rides.

[@markerichson6760]

Same here. As a kid, two of my CP experiences were passing the skeletons on the train ride and seeing the live actors on horses on the same ride. ('Course, then again, I also loved Earthquake and the Pirate Ride, so...)

[@teribarrons4287]

@@markerichson6760earthquake and pirate ride were my favorites, too! I’m actually one of the few that stopped going to Cedar Point every year when it decided to focus on just roller coasters.

[@Calakapepe]

i wish i would've gotten to try it! i didn't think it'd leave so soon

[@patmjr22]

I went in July 2021 with my girlfriend and we loved Snake River Expedition. It was a great breather between coasters and honestly one of the most fun experiences I ever had at a theme park

[@h1jen1x]

Snake River boat ride was good for sneaking a peak at the TTD construction. I liked the shade in both attractions, as there seems to be a shortage of that at cp.

[@Jillousa]

I liked Snake River expedition during moments where I felt like I just wanted to chill instead of have a thrill.😊 It's always nice to have places to chill.

[@timk987]

A very well done video! Nice historical record of these 2 attractions. I'm glad I got to experience both in their respective inaugural seasons. While I predicted FF would last less than 5 years, upon its announcement, I was surprised at the overall investment upon my first visit. I liked SNE for the 150th anniversary and thought it was a nice nod to Paddle Wheel Excursion and Western Cruise, but I have to admit I think they tried to do too much and wonder if tying it to FF set it off in a bad trajectory. My guess is that most people would have been happy with some corny puns by the captain calling attention to a few animatronics. A nostalgia ride not unlike Kings Island bringing back antique autos a few years before their 50th anniversary. I think they would have faired better with a second load/unload at the former Shoot the Rapids site with 2 boats stopping at both docks (transportation rides: Gemini midway to and from Frontier Trail) and 1 boat leaving each dock and returning to the same dock (full circuit ride). I'd also prefer a name like Cedar Creek Cruise. A gentIe wake created by the boat sells the stagnate lagoon as a creek, but a river is a bitt of a stretch!

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

Well that's a darn shame... I didn't know they had closed these, or that there was even anything different about them (hadn't done too much regarding them in the last few years, but I was thinking they were still the same 🤷🏿‍♀️); glad I was here to experience them in their prime, I guess...

[@MatecaCorp]

It’s a real shame that these attractions didn’t work out. I wish there had been a way to put them in Knott’s instead. The boat ride needed to be more like Jungle Cruise, with a track, animatronics, and the only actors being the skipper.

[@user-jq6xw4um3t]

Totally loved Snake River and Forbidden Frontier!!

[@jayducharme]

Thanks for the credit. I really liked Forbidden Frontier. It seemed popular the times I was there, and also had a terrific food concession. The shade was welcome. And there were lots of opportunities for families to do things together, something that was sorely missing at the park before. I also enjoyed Snake River Expedition (and Paddlewheel Excursions before it). I'm disappointed that they've both closed. As you imply, I think the huge amount of staff needed to run those attractions sealed their doom. Personnel is one of the biggest costs in a park, but I wish every attraction didn't have to be about making tons of money.

[@CoasterCollege]

Thanks for filming!

[@diveloopthrills7613]

I rode Snake River Expedition a few times. And it was awesome. I loved it. Such an amazing ride. Cedar Point had a slam dunk on this ride.

[@danthecoasterman22]

I’m going to be completely honest. Something this video opened my eyes to was that I failed to see the bigger picture with these attractions. I worked at the park 21-22 in a position where I was able to roam the park. Walking through forbidden frontier was always sad because it was dead. And then snake river expedition was just seen as a worse jungle cruise. But I never really appreciated that Cedar Fair / Cedar Point was trying to do something new and enter the themed attraction space. I just saw them as failures and that CF/CP should have seen this coming. when in reality the ideas should have been appreciated. Your comment on CP being a concrete jungle really struck me. CP tried to do something to break that mold and people, like myself, just laughed in their face

[@CoasterCollege]

Glad it helped open your eyes!

[@j.johnson7891]

Thats not to say something like this wouldn't work somewhere else in the park. When you have one, relatively hidden point of entry on the entire peninsula, it naturally will get less foot traffic. The theaters at the front of the park still do daily shows. But it's in a highly visible spot by the entrance Im sure they'll attempt something similar in the future. It could have simply came down to it not making sense for it to exist in its current location

[@aaronpatalune4363]

My daughter absolutely loved forbidden, and the whole family had a blast (no pun intended) on snake River in 2022. In 2023 she didn’t even care to go the park after forbidden closed. We skipped snake River last year. Glad we didn’t get the real estate sales pitch. The cost and efficiency numbers you mentioned make sense, but who wants to go to an amusement park run by accountants…

[@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037]

Cedar point is known as THE roller coaster park. They can’t change that, and I think it’s silly to try. I think they need to keep their focus on thrill rides, especially since the operations have been declining the past 5 years.

[@markerichson6760]

This was fascinating! Thank You for this excellent video! 🔸️I never knew these attractions existed. I wish I would have gotten to CP those summers.🔸️I can't quite picture where the "island" is. Does it occupy the space that was once Jungle Larry's African Safari?

[@CoasterCollege]

It's in the direct middle of the park, where millennium force does all it's turns.

[@patricktho6546]

10:07 having the boats on rails, with no operator would have helped a lot

[@CoasterCollege]

I agree

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

Can't really do that, the lagoon is natural not man made

[@patricktho6546]

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv you can still install rails underwater. We can build highway bridges that have footers etc in the water. We should be able to do that for small metalsticks guiding a metal rope. Yes, it is work, but still not that hard.

[@davidfrischknecht8261]

The first one you talked about would have required to much active participation from me for me to enjoy.

[@zuper1133]

I wonder if a modern take on Magiquest would be an option for Forbidden Frontier - it would allow the experience to more or less work although being automated and not needing nearly the amount of staff yet having a similar experience.

[@bagthecadran]

Dang, I came to the park once RIGHT before forbidden frontier was to open then my next visit I didn’t get a chance to participate but I went on the first version of Snake River which I really enjoyed. Sad to see these themed experiences close

[@Lilkay93]

I had no idea either of these were things and I’m really disappointed because I would have loved this!

[@SenpaixSteve]

People might say this has nothing to do with sixflags merge. But i think it has alot to do with it.

[@CoasterCollege]

It genuinely has nothing to do with it, the merger hasn't even happened yet.

[@RobertTheHaunter]

It’s genuinely depressing that these had such short life spans. I’m a massive fan of actor driven immersive experiences and I want more of it, not less! I’ve experienced ghost town alive and it’s truly incredible, it’s such a shame it didn’t work out for cedar point. Immersive theater is such a fascinating thing to me. :(

[@CoasterCollege]

I really want to experience ghost town alive! I do have a gut feeling that this is not the end of this type of attraction at CP though.

[@RobertTheHaunter]

@@CoasterCollege I think where ghost town alive took the win is it does seem to feel more authentic. Knotts’ ghost town is how the park started after all so the location already had a significant history behind it, and being located in one of the busiest areas of the park it was very easy to come across. From chatting with some of the performers at ghost town alive outside the park they really do put their all into it and from my trip to the park it is a very amazing immersive experience. I believe it’s all in house and Knotts keeps it very well staffed. It was just overall an incredible experience and I wish more parks would invest more into live entertainment. BGW has been dabbling in it so it gives me more hope for the future.

[@CoasterCollege]

@@RobertTheHaunter the performers on the island did a great job too, I am a huge Live E fan too. The rest of CP live E is still pretty amazing I must say. Hopefully in the future when budgets are more relaxed something like the island can return to frontier trail.

[@RobertTheHaunter]

@@CoasterCollege yeah I love entertainment of any kind but I feel that a lot of shows are sort of the same. I prefer more experimental experiences, the late skeleton rooms at knotts scary farm are another example I think about. Most parks have generic musical revue shows and this and that but few parks have interactive improv based experiences. I highly suggest you research BGW’s burgermeister hideaway, it’s part show part immersive experience and it’s been a smashing success. Bgw also has roaming actors in Germany year round and then during Xmas town they have some other roaming actors in other locations as well. Even six flags New England started adding live actors to attractions like Houdini’s great escape’s pre show and their refurbished antique autos ride is also live actor driven as well. I think a potential future could be adding a live actor here and there to existing attractions because the ride can still exist and be entertaining without the talent but the talent adds that much more to the experience. When you build rides centered around live entertainment like snake river it quickly falls apart.

[@yvettewolf3872]

I would have experienced Forbidden Frontier if I had known that it was free to participate.

[@nickvilagi5151]

I've had a season pass for a long time and I never knew about forbidden island, and I assumed snake river was just bringing back the old paddlewheel boat rides where they told corny jokes. Advertising was definitely an issue, I don't think many people realized what they were. To be blunt, I don't feel like I missed out on much. I go there for coasters, and that's it. Neither of these attractions would have interested me. That said I'm sad they closed, I definitely support Cedar Point trying to branch out and get a wider array of attractions, and I think with a better roll out they have a chance of making something that lasts.

[@amusement420]

I haven't had time to watch the video. But if I did one let me add they also couldn't pay all of the actors. Live E! had budget cuts for 2023. They got the huge budget for 150 and Spectacular and the parades & floats which were only planed for two seasons. They did a good job getting creative within their budgetary constraints for the shows they had last summer and HalloWeekends seasons. Boardwalk/Wild Mouse/Grand Pavilion got the big budget last season. CP should have had the gigantic Forbidden Frontier sign on the Frontier Trail and an actor or two in 'attract mode' so people knew it was there. I liked both attractions.

[@rockintylerj9349]

Me and my mom tried to go on the snake river expeidition as it was one of the few rides she can do at the park. Unfortunately it broke down, lr something happened both times and we never got on. If i knew it was going away and that would be our only chance, i would have tried again, but i thought there would be time. Sadly its gone now :(

[@QuothHerNevermore]

I go to parks for the coasters, but I also love themed experience rides like this! I'm disappointed I never got to ride it.

[@wendyjaa]

I'm so sad that I never got to experience this.

[@hunterdail3777]

The boat captains opening year were amazing! They must of had great leaders!

[@victorellis8405]

Yes definitely one of the best ride crews and leadership the park has had!

[@thefergyfilms]

Before investing in fully themed attractions that they didn't advertise, Cedar Fair should have used the money to theme up the current park so guests would expect and desire these type of experiences in the first place. Both also had a criminally high amount of staffing required that arguably would have been better spent on more effects or animatronics to tell the story instead. If they want to do themed experiences like this in the future I hope they decide to fully commit as well as give it a proper ad campaign, only after they turn Cedar Point into a proper theme park first.

[@K1ngdaKa88]

Luckily we rode Snake River last summer and didn't miss out. But I'm still waiting for my property I wanted to buy for 1$! 😂

[@ckilbarger01]

I mean as a Central Ohioan, these just feel like attractions that would have played better in King's Island. I mean I do like that Cedar Point is trying to diversify but most people who are like me where it's pretty equidistant to go to Cedar Point and Kings Island tend to go to Cedar Point for high thrill and King's Island for family fun. Again, I know Cedar Point has family/kiddie things but that's just the reputation of the parks

[@EsOne4200]

I wonder what other plans they have with the island. It's a lot of area in a land locked park to not be using. I will admit that Expedition was better when Forbidden Frontier was alive, and kind of lost its story line without it. It wasn't the same after.

[@danloosen8358]

I got to go on Snake River Expedition when I was there. It felt like an attraction that wouldn't last. When Disney does theming, they do so with great capacity. This had none of that, and it made the line super long, which made the experience disappointing when we finally got to go, as it was an average themed ride. If they could have solved the boat problem and tightened up the story, it would have been great, but capacity killed that option.

[@ThatDogBarks.]

Happy Truce day!

[@dylanalgate8130]

Too be honest, I always forgot it was there. It’s off the beaten path, and most of the time I think it was closed when we were there

[@TerrenceMarie]

I never got a chance to ride snake river last year which I suppose it's a good thing in the sense they cut the staff way too hard and was going to be less enjoyable....but also that means I'll never get to say goodbye. Everytime I went to ride it was closed for one reason or another.

[@rustyshacklefordrefined5756]

It would be cool if they built a water-coaster and ground up wooden coaster back there and where mine ride is.

[@ErisIsAnAbomination]

I went on Snake River Expedition the year it opened, which was my first and only time. I’m definitely not in its target audience and felt it was too cheesy and “kiddy” for my taste, but I definitely appreciated what they were trying to do. The 2023 retheme though… YIKES. I’m glad I didn’t go on it again. Something about it feels so rushed and cynical; I can’t help but think of Superstar Limo and its desperation to make something out of a deteriorating concept, not to mention how I’d feel if something like Jungle Cruise got overhauled to be nothing but a plotline about the Skippers trying to sell plots of land. In its 2023 iteration, riding it would just be a complete bummer imo.

[@adamdragster]

Adventure Island should become a major VIP area for prestige passholders

[@kathywiseman7944]

I think they might have failed because of the loss of "river" area. The old longer version was more fun.

[@Jillousa]

I was the guest that didn't truly know that forbidden frontier existed

[@aegisofhonor]

it sounds like the sort of themed attraction you'd find at Dollywood, Silver Dollar City or maybe even Fiesta Texas, not Cedar Point.

[@michaelmanning9144]

It is still listed as one of the rides

[@CoasterCollege]

No it's not on the website

[@h20s67]

Snake River Expedition probably won’t disappear, it will just return to the Paddlewheel Excursions/Western Cruise format w/ one captain and bad jokes. Just the way it was when I, Captain Crunch, worked on Paddlewheel!

[@j.johnson7891]

I thought this would make the most sense

[@Jeremy-jx4kq]

The first time i did Snake River Expedition it was a fun and fresh change from the typical Cedar Point attraction. Over the course of that first year (I think I rode it 3 times) it started to get old and repetitive. The second year they stripped out some of the effects (removed the shootout for a knife thing, as if that’s somehow less violent) and it was already wearing out its welcome. Last year they went with a completely different, real estate, theme that was really just awful (SOOO cringe). It was nice going around in the boat but the whole concept of a themed experience with a story quickly stopped working. I (and honestly I think most local CP attendees) would have been perfectly fine with a peaceful boat ride and maybe a CP history narrative or something like that. It’s a nice break from everything else….until it becomes so cringe that it’s annoying.

[@WaxyLT]

Hey guys. Worked at Snake River Expedition last year. Sorry I ruined it.

[@darnell2000]

Those sound amazing. I'm sick of being thrashed around on coasters and thrill rides. I love dark rides and such, but staring at a projected screen or a 3d screen like at Universal feels a bit lame. I love the theatre of this. I don't think theatrical performances that move the audience around from scene to scene need to be part of a larger amusement park, and I wish more attractions like this existed everywhere in lieu of traditional theatre. A well-scripted and professionally executed feature length production that runs a few times a day for several months or years before being changed could attract prices higher than broadway. A lot of the limitations of traditional theatre, like the cheap-looking 2-dimensional backdrops needed due to time and space limitations in a theatre hall could be solved by moving the audience from stage to stage, and through immersive environments.

[@darnell2000]

I guess the challenge is designing theatre spaces and a ride system that is flexible enough to adapt to various productions and have the capacity to rival normal theatre productions.

[@aoilpe]

Describing the Basilisk as a river snake is dumb. It’s A/ more of a lizard or B/ a winged snake with a rooster’s head and eagle’s catches ( Animal of the city of Basel/Switzerland ) …

[@Jillousa]

I feel silly for not realizing about forbidden frontier. Said I missed out

[@JB-bs1se]

The wind Seeker and the Sky Hawk scare the crap out of me. I love the coasters, but never will ride Wind Seeker and Sky Hawk again.

[@sonic-cr3tr]

Can't believe Cedar Point took out both the rides I helped build.

[@victorellis8405]

Right, all those memories and fun times spending countless hours working on those attractions.

[@jayreed9370]

I thought this was a poor use of manpower when they were chronically short on employees. They also misunderstood what non-coaster attendees are looking for. If people want shows, give them shows--and air conditioning! (during the same time frame Cedar Point conspicuously cut down on performances at the Jack Aldrich/Centennial theater and Lusty Lil's). FF: If they had just advertised a playground in the middle of the park with a large seating area where adults could watch while sipping adult beverages, this area would have been better utilized and still be open and profitable. That playground was awesome but nobody knew it was there because you had to navigate around a bunch of actors to get to it---everyone gave up or got lost before then. SRE: People liked the paddleboat rides because it was passive, you could take a load off get out of the sun. By removing the roofs from the boats and making crowds stand and listen to character speeches they made it tiresome and annoying instead of relaxing.

[@nv_spartan1771]

Snake River Expedition never had a chance.

[@Ihatethoosies]

This park doesnt seem to want have anything that isnt generic sadly.

[@coasterboomer1067]

These rides are just proof that cedar point needs a dark ride. Something for the kids to do and adults would enjoy.

[@295g295]

😅A CP first time or once in a year visitor is there for maximum thrills. A season pass-holder has been on all the thrill rides many times and craves some entertainment shows by humans rather than more of the ride machines.

[@THEREALJOJO-kl6gd]

I would just build some flat rides here and a roller coaster or two, dinosaurs alive didn’t work and neither did this. Of course there were staff shortages but the attraction didn’t seem that exciting at all.

[@batgirl5518]

The basilisk is not a snake it’s a legless lizard

[@molestingfood]

I did not care for forbidden frontier. I really do not miss it

[@gravestonegaming10]

Amusement park chains just can’t pull off theming

[@CoasterCollege]

I disagree

[@gravestonegaming10]

@@CoasterCollege I mean they can but it seems like they just can’t maintain it. Go to a theme park if you want quality theming yk

[@CoasterCollege]

These two attractions didn't fail because of theme issues, it was due to other issues.

[@turtz0]

Six flags has proven this wrong by keeping frontier city how it is

[@clevelandcbi]

​@@gravestonegaming10I'm with you.

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

Didn't like Snake River Expedition. Too long of a bad ride. Tried Too hard to replace Western Cruise. I feel these types of rides and attractions have run their course and takes too many staff members to be useful

[@LordLaroyalty]

Clearly, the ONLY good years for Snake River Expedition were it's last year and now because it is being removed! I can't believe anyone would ride something so horrible as when this opened!!! Cedar Point immediately came a place to AVOID when they opened this!!! I've seen better theming at Six Flags!!!!!

[@CoasterCollege]

touch grass

[@dindog22]

they should at least keep the boat ride. I love a good boat ride with corny jokes

[@Tank4Life]

The whole frontier thing never made any sense anyway.

[@scalkinsusmc]

Snake river expedition was horrible. Who ever came up with the idea should be fired. My Son loved the jungle gym and the food back there was really good.

[@chelseafn104]

Come on. Tell the truth Cedar Point screwed up!! Not the first tine and not the last. Look at Wild Mouse. It should have never been built. Complete waste of Money.

[@CoasterCollege]

Bro it's not that deep

[@GET_YOUTUBE_VIEWS_m054]

Loving it!