WILL CEDAR POINT SUCK IN 2024?

Cedar Point is one of my favorite places, but is some of the magic being stripped away from this great place?
I think the answer may be yes. and we're gonna talk about the trajectory Cedar Point was on and how they seem to have taken a 180 degree turn in their plans over the last couple seasons.
So, let's talk about why Cedar Point might suck in 2024 and why I might be visiting a greater number of other amusment parks.
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THIS VIDEO BY TOPIC:
0:00 does Cedar Point want families or not?
1:26 I love Cedar Point
2:46 Top Thrill 2
3:26 Crowd Management
4:23 less money for associates
6:21 Fewer Shows
8:45 Snake River Expedition
10:04 change in brand quality (no local establishments)
12:18 No more Frontier Festival
15:13 recap of what has left the park
17:10 what do you actually want?
17:33 Why Cedar Point should encourage family attractions
18:57 What do you think?

[@rockintylerj9349]

Will Cedar Point suck? short answer: no long answer: noooooooooooooooooo

[@timk7576]

Yes it is going to be a shitshow this season. Anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional.

[@rockintylerj9349]

@@timk7576 you've clearly never been to a Disney park

[@nationalchampions]

​@@timk7576😆

[@Heatherofscots]

The kids do deserve more money. Working the rides is a huge responsibility.

[@notyournormalg1]

And we’re putting our lives in their hands!

[@PatrickRyan150]

​@@notyournormalg1 Especially on TT2

[@timk7576]

Not really. As a former ride host, ALL of the rides need attention of dedicated staffmembers, not just on the Dumpster.

[@jefflong1799]

In 2020 CP asked the entire coaster community "What things from anytime in the past, do you remember from CP that may or may not still be here? Because, we are trying to sew a lot of this into our 150 B-Day celebration... Reponders brought up things like Earthquake ride, original log flume, etc.

[@BeachcliffStudios]

Just fyi, cedar point only paid $20 in 2020 so this isn’t the first year with a lower wage for workers. And $15 isn’t a flat rate, it can go higher depending on position and experience.

[@user-vm9rl4yf7e]

Go to Holiday World in Santa Clause Indiana. It’s family owned in a small town. Comes with logs of perks such as free parking, feee unlimited soft drinks, free sunscreen, HUGE water park included in admission price. Almost never have anything close to the crowds that Cedar fair parks have. They have 5 big roller coasters and 1 kiddie coaster. The water park is huge with 3 water coasters. Later in the summer they have an AMAZING drone show that is most definitely worth it. Almost nothing inside the park is corporate. I have been going every year since 2004 and it is so so fun. It’s an amazing family and thrill park that supports a family owned business that has been opened since August 1946. I promise you will love the environment and find so many fun ways to keep you entertained during the day.

[@notyournormalg1]

Sounds like such a fun road trip stop this year! Maybe on the way to Dollywood.

[@koyostromek7816]

I feel like cedar point is way to crowded now. It was never like that when I was younger. Now whenever I go I see people messing around, getting in fights, and it’s not something I wanna see. I go there to have fun and sight see. I don’t go there to see the ignorant people fight. If I wanted to see that, I’d go to the ix indoor center lol.

[@DaleIlavskyJr]

Our exp in the park last year was bad. Employees rude and neglectful. Rides were always down or would go down as we were at the top of the line. Food options we loved were gone. Just a lack luster trip. We did two days in park and it was misery.

[@christopherduke2177]

I just went to CP, haven't been in a few years....We had a good time, but it did feel "different'. As if it lost some of it's charm. Few live events that I used to enjoy for the A/C, break from the walking. The employees didn't seem as "joyful". Seemed less music in the park. Pretty much every single ride was 1 hour+ wait. We hit on zero rides without significant wait time. Without fast pass, which I won't buy due to the expense, I doubt I'll return anytime soon. This video sort of explains it....also getting out of the parking lot after close was just silly. That being said, we rode Steel Vengeance for 1st time and it was awesome.

[@Spike-sk7ql]

2019 was the last year CP felt like a park that cared about guests. Until the fall hit, and they started selling the $99 gold pass. After that, it seemed like the attitude shifted to "get as many people in as possible. Get more people in! More! Money! Money! Money!"

[@user-bl5si5jj3k]

That’s Hershey park. Their annual attendance is approaching 5 million and they don’t have anything other than the parking to accommodate such crowds. The walking paths are only wide and mainstream at the front of the park, walk in a little deeper and it will get ridiculously cluttered. their staff is levels lower than cedar point. Remember, Hershey’s longest coaster is approximately the length of Maverick. All their rides are pretty short in length. That’s the only reason their operations appear good. Although wildcat revenge does have a way better station setup and cedar point should absolutely positively explore options on cloning the station for Steel vengeance. That’s pretty much the only thing Hershey does better. Hershey is a funnel for 5 million people that think it’s the best park in the country. Little funny but while everyone is there getting lousy ridership totals, I’m at just about every other local and semi local alternative crushing their ridership numbers. Last year before the 4th of July at Dorney alone, I got more night rides on all their rides, than most Hershey season passholders got the whole season at Hershey. Same with Kennywood, Darien lake, etc. don’t feed a funnel is all I’m saying.

[@freshjmcfly17]

​@@user-bl5si5jj3kand yet their ops at Hershey are still terrible at least when I've gone 3+min dispatches on Candymonium and a lot of other rides it's just crazy

[@Sliipjack]

Hershey got 3.4 million visitors, thats not "Approaching 5 million" but yes, it gets very busy feeling with narrow paths@@user-bl5si5jj3k

[@firemedic2572]

Agreed, long time platinum pass holders and we don't go anymore. The cheap passes ruined it

[@randomdefender1532]

Peak lineup was 2018-2021 between the opening of SteVe and closing of OG TTD.

[@MagentsAreFun]

Kentucky Kingdom just announced a Christmas event. Season passes are only $79.99 and they are extremely family oriented and feels much more intimate than the bigger parks. You should add it to your list.

[@notyournormalg1]

It’s on my bucket list!!! Can’t wait to go soon!

[@wrestlingandamusementparkl7789]

Plus Kentucky kingdom does a Halloween event similar to Tricks and treats

[@jonalynne8745]

100% agree with you. We need those family experiences for our vacations and MORE things to do with them..not less!

[@spaceistheplace2293]

To put it simply the majority of guests at cedar point didn't care about those attractions and events that have been removed, or at least not enough to justify the cost of running them. Most guests didn't even know about Snake River expedition or Forbidden Frontier, and most people who did know about them would rather spend their time riding coasters anyway. We all want to see Cedar Point be the best possible experience, but at the end of the day they need to make a profit as well.

[@user-bl5si5jj3k]

This trend started at great adventure. They were all about attendance. They’re 45 minutes from NYC and Philly. Two top 5 metropolitan regions. They wanted that business and they just weren’t prepared for it. Great adventure has cooled down with lots of crowd control policies. If you don’t have a season pass you have to take out a mortgage just to go there and that certainly kept the crowds at bay in some ways. Not all ways. But Great adventure does deserve some credit as the walkways are mainstream and wide from side to side and they at least have space to fit the people they dreamed of having in their park. They’re also right off an interstate. So they can absolutely get people in and out. Now cue Hersheypark. Hershey used to be a small family picnic spot that brought rides in gradually. It’s very landlocked and and it’s built in a small town that really wasn’t prepared for the traffic it’s getting these days with Hersheypark now taking a similar approach. Hershey will have close to 5 million annual visitors this year. The parking lot can handle such crowds but the park and staff can’t. The paths are only mainstream when you first walk in. Walk back in a little further and it’s gonna be cluttered! And their staff is never a top 5 amusement park staff. Remember the chocolate factory is also in town. Locals will get a much better package working at the chocolate factory than they will working at Hershey park. So Hershey is stuck playing 2nd banana in terms of employment and they basically get all the rejects from the factory. Hershey isn’t raking up the desirable employees. Ever since Hershey started trying to get as many people in as possible, they really have killed the experience. I do believe cedar point though Will survive. It’s an employment leader in their area, the walkways, staffing, can handle whatever they get thrown, I don’t think we have to worry just yet. But this is definitely not a good sign.

[@notyournormalg1]

Oh. They’ll definitely survive. One way or another, but they’re losing loyalty by not offering a variety of experiences for memory making.

[@user-bl5si5jj3k]

@@notyournormalg1 Geauga lake would be fantastic right about now

[@worriedman8634]

I’m worried about taking the family this year. Maybe early in the season during the week. Keep it up man!

[@Skyla286]

It's really feels like a slap in the face they're getting rid of some local restaurants like tops. Those guys have been around forever together. It's almost as iconic as happy friar there. It be rough if they got rid of them, it really sucks have corporate everything nowadays is.

[@freshjmcfly17]

For the engagement...I rode icebreaker at SeaWorld Orlando and I gotta say going backwards is super fun. It was also fun on hagrids way too long of a name rollercoaster® and on big bear MTN at Dollywood so I'm super pumped to go that fast backwards on tt2

[@notyournormalg1]

See… those are the parts of BOTH those rides that I don’t like. Hahahah

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

Cedar point should get an icebreaker clone ngl

[@notyournormalg1]

@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od looks like that’s similar to what kings island’s new family attraction will be.

[@notyournormalg1]

That sounds like a fun road trip! Knoebels, Hershey park, Dorney Park would be fun.

[@jandrew1994]

knoebels is like a 2 hour park like bay beach in wisconsin

[@wrestlingandamusementparkl7789]

U should come to Kentucky Kingdom as well

[@Spike-sk7ql]

Cedar point is really starting to disappoint me. Especially getting rid of Tofts! I hope KI doesnt get rid of Graters. CP is becoming what i said it was going to be when they moved the cedar fair headquarters to Charlotte. Disconnected leadership who dont care about the guests.

[@timk7576]

Are you crazy/ Blue Bunny is SHIT!! Toft's is quality hometown ice cream. LIke saying Bud Light is superior to Linenkeugel!!!

[@movingtargetproductions5046]

@@supersanic1254 Are you sick in the head? I've had Blue Bunny and it tastes like absolute garbage

[@toddlusher9687]

This is one of the few times that I really agree with 1 of your videos. Cedar Point is a very, very special place for me. As well. I currently live outside of Atlanta, Georgia but grew up in Toledo Ohio and I really can see everything that you're talking about as far as Cedar Point. Going corporate national, whatever you want to call it, but they still do need. That intimacy with people who have gone to Cedar Point for years and years and years. I've been going to Cedar Point since 1987 good video again. I hope you're wrong but I really do see where you're coming from. And I'm kind of seeing a little bit of that as well. I'm a little nervous about the. Merger with Six Flags as well. But Cedar Point is a very, very special place. Every time I drive down that causeway I. Almost start crying and I'm 51 years old. But again, good video I hope you're wrong but you did hit home on some very good points.

[@bcaliber7028]

I'm pumped for CP 2024!!! I go there for coaster riding only. I've been going to CP since 1996, and have never once watched a show or parade. (Except for the dolphin show on my first visit). So for me personally, I couldn't care less about entertainment additions or deletions. I would like to see more thrill rides, flat or coaster, being added more regularly like they did back in the day. I definitely agree that removing those entertainment options won't help with crowd control. Also it could be that CF was in a phase of focused family options for CP, and decided that what they added during that phase was sufficient. I'm assuming that SRE wasn't cost effective for the traffic it was getting. Keep on riding and I hope to see you out there this season!!!

[@metallicnole4514]

We’re no longer in the coaster wars era where parks competed to build the biggest and baddest rides. Amusement parks are going for family friendly rides since they bring in the most guests. You’ll never see a ride like i305 built again in the US.

[@bcaliber7028]

Yes, I understand the time frame and reasons behind the coaster wars lol. But Trent asked for viewer opinions, so I obliged. Is a new 150ft+ ride addition every 3-5 years too much to ask lol? Yes, almost certainly, but that's what I want from CP. I know I'm in the minority of CP visitors, (unmarried & no kids) , and I spend practically $0 in the park thanks to Gold Pass w/ drink pass added. So I get why they're not overly concerned about pleasing the "me's" out there. I hope your pumped for the upcoming season at your home park!!! Keep on riding!!!

[@ifensler]

@@bcaliber7028I agree with everything you said and I have a family of 5. We go strictly for coasters and only care about other entertainment to keep people out of the coasters lines😂

[@triadrailfanproductions]

When do you buy tix for coastermania?

[@fractions]

I 100% wholeheartedly agree with you. I have not renewed my season pass this year and don't think I'm going to. (Maybe for Halloweekends, though...) But yeah, cutting corners and paying people less is NO BUENO.

[@notyournormalg1]

Exactly!!

[@RickSample]

I'm just not super excited for Top Thrill like I was for Steel Vengeance or Maverick. Especially after seeing the full cycle posted on social Media yesterday. It takes off so slow, only goes up a quarter of the way before the roll back. To me it looks like a much weaker version of the dragster. It may be busier than normal... but then again if it's just slightly busier and everyone of those extra people are waiting in top thrills 5 hour line... would it make the rest of the lark that much busier? I just can't see thousands more a day coming just to ride this. I love roller coasters and honestly I'm not even thinking about riding this

[@notyournormalg1]

I think that is a possibility… that TT2 drains the park of extra people,

[@randomdefender1532]

I predict it will be popular in its opening season but that will die down fast once people realize it's not as good as they thought it would be or as good as the original.

[@user-cp8mg6cu6g]

I'm a big fan of cedar point and love this place but I can truly understand your frustrations on this and you have some valid points. Them taking out forbidden frontier and then snake river expedition is a big disappointment. Plus they haven't done anything with the town hall like they said they would.

[@FAFO4wisdom]

They don't generate crowds, that means that the crowds are heavily concentrated elsewhere which causes longer lines and consumer disappointment. If every part of the park pulls semi equal portions of the crowd via distribution, lines are shorter at all attractions. It's highly complicated to pull this off, especially when there is a cult following at attractions that don't hold their weight numbers wise. No one likes to close an attraction that some people really love, but if that group is considerably smaller than the people who couldn't care less, the majority takes presidence.

[@alanbishopman2022]

I loved theme parks as a kid but we had Geauga Lake. The last time my kids went they hated it. Waited in lines for 2 or 3 hours for a 2 minute ride. We enjoy smaller places like Waldameer Park in PA over ceder point

[@ScottCLE]

I believe that the Town Hall project was axed completely. They did an auction a while back for some of the museum contents.

[@movingtargetproductions5046]

I'll still go (I'm South of Toledo and it's a decent park within a 90 minute trip up US 6) but what really pisses me off is the changes with passes for the year. You need to have best of the best to even get early entry and that's $350 a pop up front. Like, c'mon

[@Calakapepe]

We definitely need to find a way to get you a reverse Pov of your first ride on TT2. Imo I agree with your sentiment of too much corporate feel... which has been bleeding into entertainment at my park the last few years more and more. Not my preference when I specifically liked my park allowing each performer to be their own personality.. BUT I hear lots of praise for things like chain wide tinkers, Hot Rhythm Nights (now ROYAL) & ppl love Carnivale.. so what do I know? 😅

[@mlucking85]

i Bet it was because of ridership that snake river expedition was taken out. when ride like that is gone in 3 years normally points to that reason.

[@dreams2reality410]

Will be there the last week of August for 3 days. All I have to say is Top Thrill 2 better be running. Looking forward to it.

[@MileHighGrowler]

Some of these changes are interesting because they wouldn't really be noticeable to anyone coming to the park for a standalone/non-local visit. But I think the numbers show that most attendees at amusement parks are local, so things like festivals, food options and entertainment should matter significantly.

[@Maxspeed7Dab]

Did they get rid of all other attractions bc they spent all their money on tt2 and they dont have enough? Also considering the employment pay cuts and all the high ticket cost events before cp even opens.

[@wrestlingandamusementparkl7789]

I want to go to CP again but I don’t know. I rather go to Kings island instead. But I rather go to parks like Holiday world, Dollywood etc. as for dippin dots. I know Kids and teen love them

[@kaylamyrice-smith8309]

I wish they would announce they shows and what they plan to not have anymore. Before the time to renew our passes.

[@hillorisartin6129]

The new cp app still shows tofts. No blue bunny. Its updated because snake river expedition isn't on it.

[@notyournormalg1]

Then good! If it’s a rumor, then that’s perfectly good with me! I’d rather it be a nasty rumor.

[@christiel18]

I hope its not a disappointment this year! I was really bummed about snake river expedition getting axed. This is the first time ive ever bought any kind of pass for an amusement park, but thankfully my son will be happy just to ride the skyride and all the flat rides on the boardwalk. My first trip to CP was in 1987.....i have always loved it for its atmosphere but alot of people over the years have considered it a concrete jungle with not alot to offer families. I thought over the past few years this had changed.....they may be busy this year because of TT2 but it will start to slack off every year if the whole family cant enjoy themselves. Even though I will never ride TT2 (im too scared haha) , I am excited to see it since I was there on a family trip the year that dragster opened.

[@notyournormalg1]

Agreed.

[@BradleyHoychick]

Watching cedar pojnt content bc i grew a obsession with it last season

[@dindog22]

did they axe the shows at Lusty Lil's and the Red Garter Saloon? how about the Motown show on the main midway?

[@Paranimal86]

I was kind of disappointed in many of the bonehead decisions this era of management has done with the park. I hope they do something cool and themey with millenium island anchored with a family friendly multi launch coaster. Something along the lines of hagrids motorbike ride but cedar point custom theme to the jungle.

[@notyournormalg1]

That would be really cool. And put at least another walk through across the island and the water.

[@hatless_spider]

Is the 15 dollar thing for employees only for new hires, are they grandfathering in existing employees at 20? I would hope they would at least do that

[@hatless_spider]

@supersanic1254 wow that is a bad choice. They shouldn't anger existing employees, it will cost them more money than the savings in the long run with new training required and general worker discontent

[@jefflong1799]

I was there in 2020, at $20. I went the next year, it was $16. I did not inquire last year, but still may this year.

[@Doofles]

I think Cedar Point wants to become a theme park with offerings for everyone, such as Live Entertainment, family attractions, and themed experiences. However, when no one is waiting in line for those experiences and offerings, Cedar Point has had to reevaluate them and eventually axe them. It's really strange. It's like they're stuck in a loop.

[@mlucking85]

if they wanted to be a theme park they would have kept snake river expedition. they would have added something to the ride to give it more appeal and try to added to the ridership.

[@Maxspeed7Dab]

I'd they wanted that they would add a THEMED ride like disaster transport.

[@CourtJ1076]

Sometime during last season, they replaced Domino's Pizza with their own "brand" pizza for the resorts. I've noticed one by one they seem to be replacing ALL outside brands with their own "in house" branded food. I never thought about Dippin Dots being an outside brand, but you're right they are. Wonder what's up with that? 🤔

[@notyournormalg1]

My cynical theory is that local brands pay less for contracts. In house makes more money, but national brands like Starbucks and dip n dots pay more.

[@CourtJ1076]

@notyournormalg1 that could be. Do you know if Cedar Point is responsible for providing the employees in some of these chains or are the employees provided by the chains themselves? I was thinking that places like Tofts and Melt supplied their own employees and just ran the locations as just another one of their other locations. Similar to how they would at a mall food court or something.

[@wrestlingandamusementparkl7789]

@@notyournormalg1that’s may be true but people espically kids and teens love Dippin dots

[@timk7576]

No, all the food outlets are staffed by Cedar Point employees, even the franchised locations like Melt, Famous Dave's and TGI Friday's in the Breakers.

[@CourtJ1076]

@timk7576 thank you. I wasn't sure

[@kennethboozer6148]

You should try to go to carowinds this year. Get on that fury 325

[@jandrew1994]

b&ms are like pizza, it's hard to get bad pizza but even the best pizza is not anywhere near the ballpark of "best food". Low ceiling, high floor.

[@Maxspeed7Dab]

Going this next weekend!😎

[@DrNickRiviera995]

I agree, I wouldn't want to go to CP this year. Crowds will be insane, lines slow, staffing poor. Also don't forget they never reopened the museum neither, speaking of less family things to do. I still like the park, but not near as much as I did 20 years ago. I like a well rounded park experience with some slower paced things and atmsphere, I think the coaster lineup peaked in 2000 for me. I'd rather have things like White Water Landing, Paddlewheel, Disaster Transport etc over the off the shelf modern rides. Fastlane has also helped kill the park to me, lines are so slow now, plus I think they purposly don't care as much about efficiency in order to sell more of it. The early 2000's, park was so good at throughput, not anymore.

[@triadrailfanproductions]

I’m making the trip from Nc and I’m worried that CP won’t come through like last year…

[@bobsweatt6888]

Yay, RNR Coasting made it into the intro of this video.

[@MichiganStance]

Man i must go at perfect times or something the park is always amazing whenever im there

[@clinton5623]

20 dollars an hour??!! Here I am working at Hersheypark for 13

[@notyournormalg1]

Well it’s down to 15 now.

[@CisForCoasters]

I'm disappointed in the direction live entertainment seems to be heading. I dislike the aesthetic of the new TT2, but I realize that is just a personal thing for me. Most people probably won't mind it. The food got better in recent years so that is a positive thing. I will always love the lakeside setting, Maverick and SteVe. Those things are enough to get me there a couple of times a year, but will I make over a dozen visits in a season like I did last year? Probably not. I'd rather get some new experiences at other parks.

[@michaelanderson5209]

Personally I've never cared about the live shows, i think it would be cool/fine to have 1 show and then i really think they should bring back the big projector screen and do shows on that just before the park closes like in the past

[@jandrew1994]

If they get rid of chickies and petes they will lose me, it's the best thing on the mealplan. Chick-fil-a was always overrated, though what they replaced it with is atrocious.

[@notyournormalg1]

Agreed.

[@timk7576]

The Mormons and bible thumpers LOVED thier Chic-Fil-A!! Clutch my pearls, IT"S GONE!!!!!!

[@austinsoza1907]

I really want to go to cedar point this year I know it’s going to be crowed even when it’s bad weather too!!

[@notyournormalg1]

you should DEFINITELY go! Cedar Point, even on it's worst day, is still better than being most other places.

[@johnd551]

I agree that the quality is lacking at cedar point. Rollercoasters closed, restaurants (that bring in additional revenue) closed, poor operations...not the Cedar Point that I remember. But you keep emphasizing that they are cheating the loyal public (you and me) to make the stockholders more money. This may be true but remember two things. Any stock held corporation has a primary obligation to bring a return to those who invest in their business. Maybe what they are doing now is not the way to do that for long term favor by the guests and the stockholders. And also, in the discussion of the Cedar Fair and Six Flags merger, I believe it has been stated that Six Flags AND Cedar Fair are each like $2 billion in debt. I am sure that Cedar Fair is trying to save $$ where they can to pay off the debt and the interest they are incurring as a result of it. Not an easy place to be in, I'm sure. I agree with you though...coming to the park and having all these food locations and coasters closed is NOT good for business...that is you and me spending our hard-earned money there!!

[@alanbishopman2022]

I'm done with ceder point! Its too overcrowded and expensive. I'm not waiting in line for 2 hours for a 2 minute ride. I loved theme parks as a kid especially Geauga Lake but my kids don't even wanna go back after their last visit to ceder point.

[@jefflong1799]

I TOTALLY AGREE on TOFT'S... Toft's is the oldest dairy in Ohio, and CP is 150 years old (!) It makes total sense to stay with it .. Also, even liquor stores in Michigan sell little cups of Toft's... ALSO, CP removed Subway from the main drag.. Is Panda Express Next??

[@jefflong1799]

@@supersanic1254 Why do they need to "expand"? Also, loyalty and tradition mean nothing now, huh??

[@pennykrumnauer9547]

I plan on taking my daughter and her friends family in August.

[@HARMONTY100]

Kings island is going to have the same issues I think because of staffing 😒

[@zachfarb9039]

Going for the first time this summer with kings island also being a stop on the trip

[@notyournormalg1]

So glad to hear you’re hitting both!! Let me know if you have any questions.

[@zachfarb9039]

I'm doing season passes because planning multiple days at both parks with meal deal. Is there a major tip you would suggest for a beginner to cedar fair parks?

[@notyournormalg1]

@@zachfarb9039 think counterintuitively If you think most people seem to be headed in one direction, then try to do the opposite of the crowds. Take as many days as you can to see the parks and ride all the rides in lieu of spending money on fast lane. And don’t worry about everything being perfect! Just have fun!

[@thrillrides1012]

Well since I'm moving to Virginia now I won't be at cedar point most maybe opening weekend and closing

[@TheCoasterSerpent]

The problem with Cedar Point is that it gets so packed busy. Unlike KI, I feel like they have a bunch of low capacity rides that you have to wait for, even with fast pass. At KI, more rides seem to only be a station wait with the pass. I can often go to Kennywood without needing or even wanting their Quick Que because its not bad most days. Only during Phantom Fright or events like that does the park just get slammed. For Cedar Point to scale back on things like shows and family friendly events, its going to result in even more lengthy rides. The park needs to immediately install 4-5 new flats just for the extra capacity, and to offer new good flats.

[@MrKillerRC]

We will miss The big playground in Forbidden Frontier

[@lynndemartini9379]

ALOT of families liked and miss that area!! Pretty cool back there!!

[@MrKillerRC]

Are you doing this video on the toilet? 😂

[@notyournormalg1]

😂

[@NIKKI-1979]

I feel like it will be what you make of it. I can care less about the family stuff as my kids are grown and out of the house but to someone else they may be upset. I am going the day after memorial day for three days. Figured it should be pretty dead since kids still in school and people went during memorial day weekend including monday. I am so excited! I usually go each year since I moved to pittsburgh from california. I missed only two years last year and the one during covid. I also never attend any shows. Do not care for those at all but I do see what you mean about crowd control. Do you think they removed that snake river ex. to make room for a new coaster in 2026 back in that area?

[@bisem433]

I would much rather go to Knobels! Free admission, free parking, good inexpensive food ......or pack a picnic lunch and bring your own. I always make it a two day trip with Hershey park. Don't get me wrong. I love Cedar Point but if I have to spend two days at Cedar Point to get through the lines to ride everything I'd rather combine two parks elsewhere like Busch Gardens and Kings Dominion or Kings Island and Holiday World. I also spend a week in Tampa every year and spend a couple days at Busch Gardens. If you go a week or two after Halloween they are decorated for Christmas and the rides are practically a walk on. Last year I rode Iron Gwazi 10 times in one day along with every other ride in the park! Also you can usually buy a yearly pass before the holidays which gives you the rest of that year and the following year to ride. Well worth it even if you only use the pass 4 times!

[@jefflong1799]

Um...some thoughts... First, I think that some of the things they did in 2020 WERE, paying homage to it's past.. Maybe thats WHY (?), they are in 2024 (saying): Can we move on now?? I DO though think they should have kept Snake River.. At the same time though, as someone who has been going there since (true) 1969 (!), I was VERY impressed with the investment and determination they showed, with the quality of the 150 parade and show in 2020, so MUCH so, that I was a little saddened by the fact that there were so many people who (because of covid) did not come, and did not see this GIANT surprise from a park that never did it before - BIG KUDOS! All that aside, your observation on crowd and a cash-cow year was something I was ALSO telling people - Last Year... I was like: Vengeance, Boardwalk, additions from 2020, parade and show, and NOW - TT2... I was like OMG.. BUT, you're also hitting an important thing: a shrinking feeling of history, tradition, the regional feeling of "this is the park I grew up in".. leaving a hint of awkwardness (to some) some change that may take a minute.. but again, maybe they think they already addressed this.. Footnote: When yiu go on GateKeeper now, and you exit exit through the gift shop, you no longer see the Disaster Transport T-Shirts for sale, like in 2020. I still love CP for the things left in my head over the last 55 (!) years, and I WILL BE on TT2. Jeff in Detroit.

[@notyournormalg1]

That almost makes it worse. If it was like “FINE… we’ll give you what you miss and then PLEASE just SHUT UP about it after that” Then Cedar Point knows what fans want and just, straight up, doesn’t care. Which tells me that they DELIBERATELY took the air out of snake river expedition.

[@jefflong1799]

@@notyournormalg1 Ihmmm, okay.. I really liked Snake River, they did a good job on that.. :)

[@notyournormalg1]

@@jefflong1799 I liked it too. Until last year. Cuz they took away the heist scene and the live actors. Which I think is what made that ride so great!

[@timk7576]

That was a stupid ride, and I cannot see why everyone is boo hoo-ing about it. Wicked Twister was a frigging GREAT experience and they take THAT out for YET ANOTHER restaurant!! Cedar Point--America's Buttered Toast!!

[@jefflong1799]

@@timk7576 Ok, well, that being said... CP did a really great thing, on taking the physical boardwalk, from the Breakers to the front gate .. Second, they created the "Boardwalk" area.. Also creating the new parade, show, and 4 new eateries for the 150 anniversary, and opening 2-3 new places to stay when you are in the area... And NOW , the most talked about attraction for the last 4 years, has FINALLY solved a big problem: NO MORE, will you wait 2 hours for a 17 second ride... For THAT ALONE, no one can shake a stick .. LOLOL, thanks brother! Jeff in Detroit...

[@ronaldlatosinski4066]

I also expect it to be extremely busy with opening of top thrill 2. That's why I decided to go with my wife during the middle of the week in the first week of June. Hopefully I made the right decision. Also have you been to Holiday world or Dollywood? I live about 2 1/2 hours from Holiday world & about 3 1/2 hours from Dollywood. And both parks are great and both have very friendly & professional staffing.

[@notyournormalg1]

Holiday world and Dollywood look AMAZING to me! I haven’t been in adulthood, but I’m really excited to check them out as soon as I can. Considering a road trip.

[@notyournormalg1]

What do you think about Cedar Point for 2024?

[@Thuggysmurf]

It's still the best amusement park in America (not best run, that is Kings Island). All your arguments are correct, but look at the competition. Cedar Point doesn't have Turkey Leg brawls, shootings in the parking lot, fight circles, my kids aren't going to hear the n-word 50 times in 15 minutes while waiting in line, etc. It feels safe for children in the park and walking back to Hotel Breakers. Management can make all the mistakes you've identified + more, and it's still one of the best places to visit with a family.

[@CisForCoasters]

I think for 2024, CP is putting all their eggs in a basket called TT2 . When the hype around that finally wanes in a few years, hopefully they will get back on track with festivals, entertainment and themed attractions. Is a themed dark ride too much to hope for?

[@notyournormalg1]

@@CisForCoasters I Hope not!

[@notyournormalg1]

@@Thuggysmurf I fully agree. And I’ll be back. I make this video every year to keep me balanced and give the worst parts of cedar point for those who want to know the worst. And you’re right, cedar point could do worse. But, it seems like they are on a trajectory that is not good. I know they are watching and I think they should know that we are noticing.

[@notyournormalg1]

Overall, this is the most upset I have been with cedar point.

[@PatrickRyan150]

We missed the shows at Lusty Lils.

[@notyournormalg1]

Agreed. I’d love to have it, or something similar, back

[@Hilton.Hotel_Reviwes345]

when will u be live again

[@notyournormalg1]

probably monday for my monday, tuesday, thursday walks. lol

[@songstressmiku3676]

I'm scared of top thrill 2 as well but not for the same reason. I never had a chance to ride top thrill dragster before it was shut down. And that big staring straight at the ground scares me

[@MrKillerRC]

My son worked at Kings Island for 2 years. He’s probably not returning for a 3rd year. Too many cuts. Better job options available

[@jandrew1994]

It will definitely suck if I don't find a relationship in the next 6 weeks or so.

[@happycoasterdad]

Hear hear!

[@kevinwest2826]

Tofts is still at the park

[@notyournormalg1]

Good! I hope so! I just was there and saw that the sign was taken down. So… I hope you’re right.

[@jefflong1799]

CP said that You are banned from their park now...

[@notyournormalg1]

Already been there since this vid came out. :) lol. But, this is a love letter to cedar point. I just wanna see them be awesome. and there's always gonna be something that can be improved.

[@jefflong1799]

No, this was just today...

[@notyournormalg1]

@@jefflong1799 UH OH

[@EricA-zs7vo]

After 2020 it went back to $15 and for halloweekends it has $20

[@nationalchampions]

😆

[@aidencamera8301]

Top thrill 2 should be called wicked dragster or twisted thrills

[@timk7576]

This park is definitely going in the wrong direction. Have been disappointed in the way this park has been operating. Having another charge for this Eclipse thing and not have passholders attend, makes no sense. Kings Island is SOO much better than Cedar Point, and continues to be a much better experience, and I wish I was closer, as this park is far superior to Cedar Point.

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

I don't really see how cedar point would be bad this year even after watching the video they still have the worlds best coaster lineup that alone is enough to make it great

[@notyournormalg1]

I’ll still be there. I don’t hate it. Will it have way too many crowds, and are they making me mad? Yes. To both,

[@timk7576]

Kings Island has s better roller coaster lineup and you don't have to pay an extra fee for their Fast Lane wristband to utilize ALL of their TOP NOTCH roller coasters either.

[@johnabraham4003]

So let me get this straight your crying because more people are showing up which is a good thing your saying it should just be you in the park how dare they make money how dare they actually get people back heaven forbid your not alone in the park they've been hurting in getting people to show up but nope no one needs to show up I'm sorry your mad people are coming back

[@notyournormalg1]

I'm glad there are people at the parks. Cedar Point needs to create more value in their parks and not take away the value for the people who are continuing to go. But go ahead. Pop off king. Your comment helps more people to see this.

[@timk7576]

What he is saying is the park does not seem ready to handle the anticipated attendance that is to be expected with the new Top Thrill 2--stupid name BTW. Busy days getting in and out of the park with traffic backing up on the Causeway will be a disaster. They do not have a handle on what is to come.