Snake's Revenge - Last Boss!!!

[@calcifieddirt4120]

i like to think this is a power fantasy for venom and even then he loses

[@GuyOnAChair]

I like to think this is a shitty game.

[@stevekapschock6785]

Like The Rock says... "It doesn't matter what you think!"

[@donkeykongisytpooping3002]

GuyOnAChair ​​ I thought this game was good.

[@InsurgentHarbinger]

I am pretty sure it was Ultra Game’s intentions for Big Boss in Metal Gear NES and Snake’s Revenge to actually be him and not his body double since Kojima wasn’t involved with these games and existed way before MGS5. These were considered spinoff games that are probably canonical in their own way.

[@HalDanGhor]

Without those NES games, the series wouldn't have existed though.

[@BBMK23]

"This is Big Boss. You destroyed Metal Gear. And make me a cyborg. Now I want revenge." Oscar winning writing right there.

[@VickybabySJ]

Yes, there are substancial differences... except the NES games, good or bad, gave the series a wider exposure (the MSX was sold in Japan only) and tapped into an even bigger market which made the series the juggernaut it is today. owenitzura also "forgot" to mention Hideo Kojima actually likes Snake's Revenge. Let's just take this game for what it is - an unrelated spin-off. "Ha, ha, ha. I have no weak point you can penetrate." o_O

[@1983parrothead]

Snake's Revenge and its Tiger LCD Handheld counterpart seem better than first Metal Gear NES version, because both Snake's Revenge versions have Metal Gear while first NES Metal Gear did not.

[@TheTrueBro]

Holy crap, I never imagined Venom Snake's horn like thing would make him a mechanical monster (Maybe Kojima remembered this game and used the lol cyborg thing as inspiration)

[@QuiGonZel]

I remember if you let the time run out when trying to destroy Metal Gear, if you were in the same room as it, you could see the missile launch from its back.... and then it said "Game Over".

[@owenitzura]

Snake's Revenge is not based on Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (MSX) in any way. Snake's Revenge is a completely different game, not a port, but made from scratch. It is non-canon, but it still can be considered as a sequel to the NES version. It's plot, design, characters, etc are completely different than the one in Metal Gear 2.

[@AshKrimson]

*My personal experience when I was 6 years old fighting against big boss’ 2nd form* *runs out the room to recollect* Me: okay I need to figure out how to beat him- *big boss opens the door* Me: O_O!

[@HalDanGhor]

Ha! Ha! xD

[@lordgargamel4124]

On god. Great times.

[@GuyOnAChair]

0:42 Uhh are those Walker Gears or early Gecko?

[@Dragon-cy8zu]

Yep walkers they are not early gecko's.

[@UltrawaveProductions]

I guess "Snake's Revenge" meant BIG BOSS's revenge. :/

[@Loader2K1]

Snake's Revenge was only released in North America and Europe.

[@regeneradorescodvit7583]

Big Boss's Terminator (Venom Snake)

[@axlplays512]

Where were you when Big Boss became Samus Aran.

[@owenitzura]

The first "Metal Gear" on the NES is a port of the MSX version. Storyline is basically the same, but some of the layouts of the fortress have been changed. Another major change is that the Metal Gear itself doesn't appear on the NES version (You destroy a huge computer), while in the original MSX version, Metal Gear does have an appearance and you have to destroy it (However, it is innactive, only protected by two laser-shooting cameras).

[@HalDanGhor]

It is Called "Snake's Revenge", a "Nintendo" game that was done by "Konami". ;)

[@Loader2K1]

He probably did. I just remember reading an interview about him talking about his early days at Konami and how the original Metal Gear came to be.

[@PossessedbyPhoenix]

Yes, it's Naked Snake's revenge! This game is a prophet and was telling the future!

[@marhansgamingchannel4732]

well i think it's venom snake, not naked snake

[@HalDanGhor]

Thanks for the infos. I really thought that the NES ones were the real first ones to be created. So it means that Metal Gear NES and Snake's Revenge NES aren't exactly the same games as in MSX even if they are the same titles?

[@stevekapschock6785]

It took me FOREVER(!!!) to figure out you had to use the mines on Big Boss 2.0!

[@justinbailey1234]

this is a metal gear game no matter if kogima did it our not its like levis and lee.the two are just as good . iloved this game and played it so much that i was able do became invincible without using cheats etc...nice trip to the past !!!

[@Loader2K1]

This was made in the NES days. What do you expect? Back then, all the storyline of a video game needed was a good guy to go stop the main bad guy and his underlings and save the world/girl.

[@coolsomeXD]

This is Big Boss you destroyed Metal Gear 1 and made me a cyborg and now I want revenge.

[@luminuslynx]

Wow, nostalgia!

[@conradojavier]

Cyborg Big Boss = Solidus Snake

[@mockasin]

Metal Gear for NES isn't completely different nor terrible. Sure it's lame that you don't fight Metal Gear, and they added the jungle and stupid mazes etc, but a lot of the floor layouts in the buildings are exactly the same as in the msx version and I think the general experience is pretty similar. It may be inferior to the msx version but it's still one of the greatest games of the NES era and one that had a huge impact on me as a 10 year old. And it has an awesome original soundtrack too.

[@KevinStriker]

I thought he was quoted saying that he prefered the MSX for its sound and color palette.

[@Loader2K1]

Actually, when Kojima joined Konami, he wanted to be on NES/Famicom development team, but got assigned to the MSX development team. That's why Metal Gear 1 was made first for the MSX.

[@ShadowPhoenix142]

That was one of the most ANTI-CLIMACTIC fights with Metal Gear I have ever seen. And why is Big Boss a fucking cyborg?!

[@elloko25]

Honestly... i don't want to even trip about an MGS voice over with these lines. 1st line: THIS IS BIG BOSS. YOU DESTROYED METAL GEAR 1 AND TURNED INTO A CYBORG. NOW I WANT REVENGE. 2nd line: HA, HA, HA! I have no weak point you can penetrate. It has some epic quality XP imagine a mixture of CSOTN with this.

[@gruntguy007]

ACTUALLY, he's partially right. After Metal Gear NES was a financial success, Konami began making Snakes Revenge without Kojima's consent. It wasn't untill a developer for snakes revenage talked to Kojima about it where did Kojima began making Metal Gear 2

[@Nanabobo]

... Well, this sheds a whole new light on MGS4.

[@stuv1996]

It's not canon thankfully

[@donkeykongisytpooping3002]

@@stuv1996 The game would actually fit the canon pretty well, only a few changes would need to be made.

[@HalDanGhor]

@NadrianATRS Depends on the players. Personally, I preferred this one. ;)

[@FATALFURYKID]

Big Boss a Cyborg? Oh Snake you and your silly revenge.

[@Loader2K1]

I'm going to assume it was becuase of the NES's limited color palette, which paled in comparison to the MSX's. Honestly, in my opinion, if Solid Snake and his crew wore black, they'd look much better in this game.

[@Amandamotherbasestaff1971]

Either Snake dreamt this, or Solid Snake encountered Solidus Snake, after Metal Gear Solid 1 before Raiden awoke.

[@Loader2K1]

Actually, the original Metal Gear game bombed in Japan, but was a success in North America.

[@ClickForOutkast]

Well I agree it was a little weird first, but with MGS3 and MGS4 it got less stupid and started to make sense, actually Liquid Ocelot has become my favourite villain.

[@Loader2K1]

@MysticArksRevenge: I din't mind the simplistic music in the original.

[@Troybane]

I don't count big boss being cyborg lol

[@elloko25]

I know i know, but honestly it's hilarious.. it makes you love the game. You know many people complains about NES games but they do overlook the funniest part of those games. There are other NES that offers those 8 bit music & terrible "back up" lines & it makes it playable though. Up to this i still laugh at those lines from snake revenge.. they're awesome.

[@fhistleb]

Jesus christ! Snake just slammed him with mines!

[@Murukku47]

They sure went with way more Bond-style story and intensity with the ending here. Stereotypical evil guy, ridiculous time limit before the world gets nuked. Kojima went on to write more meaningful story and deeper characters instead with Metal Gear 2 MSX, but the game's way, way easier than this.

[@SpiritSnake1]

MG was originally for max along with MG 2

[@JT044-iz1cv]

Naked Snake's Revenge?

[@justsaucerawsauce8291]

Jack Taylor 044 Nope venom

[@mellowman1978]

I still have this game! I loved the boss music, and I loved the military train area. What was stupid though, is having Snake and his team running around in these bright red fatigues, esp in the jungle. Why not just put Christmas tree lights on? I think I'll go back, play Snake's Revenge, then play the original MG2 Solid Snake and decide which one I like more. It's been ages since I've played either one...

[@lordgargamel4124]

I could be wrong but i believe Snakes Revenge was out before Solid Snake. Solid Snake was Kojima’s response to that. I dont think he appreciated Konami allowing a Metal Gear game with out his hand involved.

[@xXxOUDYxXx]

at 2:03- ''I have no weak point. You can penetrate''

[@GanzoHasashi1911]

At least they kinda got the story right. Kinda...

[@Loader2K1]

Also, even if Snake's Revenge never happened, there's still a good chance Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake wouldn't have came out in North America and Europe at the time anyway. The video game was very adult-oriented at its time, and Nintendo of America was very strict with its squeaky-clean image of video games (although a few titles slipped past NOA's radar). Also, the NES couldn't handle as many colors as the MSX could, not to mention NOA ruled their third-party support with an iron fist.

[@VVeltanschauung187]

Which snake is the title really talking about?

[@luisreyes1963]

Venom Snake. A reference from MGS5.

[@molemanninethousand]

@NintendoSegaSonyGuy Really, this isn't actually supposed to be Metal Gear 2 at all.

[@CRITTERBUSTERS]

I love this game myself and it's story mainly because its very different.

[@Girkon]

Correct, it lacks any of the qualities that made Kojimas previous works great

[@miguelmastroberardino5544]

Snake Revenge es una serie no canonica de la saga Metal Gear

[@CRITTERBUSTERS]

I thought the idea of big boss as a cyborg was cheesey but cool and as for the ending it seemed very sad to hear that both of your freinds are dead or MIA but i laughed at that world peace day part. but i seem to like the story of this game much more than any of the other MG games because it's so different from the others.

[@KevinYama]

WTF, LOL just... WTF. Big Boss turned into a cyborg

[@energiesoler]

the first attack points are New York, Moscow and... Tokyo ? why is it always Tokyo ?

[@stevekapschock6785]

Why is it always New York as well? Why not Detroit or Seattle or something?

[@Jarock316]

I think it's because the United Nations is located in New York.

[@2はすまに]

すごい…幻のやつじゃん！

[@NadrianATRS]

which game is better? this one or the first game?

[@JamesPlaysGames95]

big boss says he wants revenge. but isnt this "SNAKE's revenge" ?

[@Aivottaja]

He has no weak point for Snake to penetrate!

[@HalDanGhor]

@TheTaylorJohnson1 Not really. Solid Snake will only die if Metal Gear 2 succeeds into launching his attack against the world... Snake could also die if he gets careless with his weapons... ;)

[@TheTaylorJohnson1]

So can Metal Gear 2 attack you

[@owenitzura]

Do you have a source on this? (Not saying it's false, I just want more info)

[@anth00000]

Snake is supposed to be an agent, not a fucking boxer...

[@daghik15]

Well, MG wasn´t so serious back then. It was a great game for it´s time, but story wise and logic wise it was still a lot like the games of that era. It didn´t make any sense, the only point was that it was superhero and militairy like. From MGS 1 forward it really started to get deep and interesting.

[@osmangarcia2693]

hard hard game

[@FATALFURYKID]

Yeah why would you start off saying that your Big Boss? Snake already knows who he is. So whats the point? I guess it all comes down to bad translation.

[@Swedish666787]

yeah like what is this have to do with anything

[@HawkOfGP]

This game propably isn't as good as the MSX Metal Gear's but the soundtrack is kickass! I like pretty much all the MGS games but I have to say that in MGS2 and 4 the story goes ridiculously over the top. But they're good games anyway. But if I were to put every Metal Gear game I've played in order of preference, it would be: MGS3, MGS, MGS4, MG2, MGS2, MG1, Snake's Revenge, NES MG

[@ClickForOutkast]

Yeah, well. MGS got very complicated and mindfucking with the sequels, if you don't like that kind of things then MGS is the wrong series, but to be fair MGS had a veeeery deep plot and a message. So MGS1 isn't that different from the rest. I think MGS1 has the most plot twists.

[@ClickForOutkast]

I lol'd hard when I reached Big Boss. Many people rate this as the worst Metal Gear, it's not any worse than the other Metal Gear's in terms of gameplay. But the story was a little bit... weird.

[@A3you]

me too

[@thepolacek]

This game blows. I got it for xmas one year.

[@Ocelot04]

Big Boss a Cyborg, WTF is this ??

[@luisreyes1963]

Video Game Logic 101.

[@Sjono]

Big Boss is so stereotypical here. Petty vengeance is so out of his character

[@ZeriousErnand]

It takes 14 missiles to destroy metal gear

[@HalDanGhor]

13, 14 or 15 depending on luck. ;)

[@BusterSlice]

we are looking at a disgrace to mgs

[@CraigSmithII]

I could never beat this game

[@RioBrando_]

Konami may have made the game but Kojima had nothing to do with this game at all. So this Game was never really considered a real MGS game.

[@RidgeForrester]

Hmmm what game is this?

[@darwinsimborio671]

wow

[@owenitzura]

False. The MSX games came first, and are the original games. The NES Metal Gear game is a poorly-done port, to which Hideo Kojima refers as "garbage". Snake's Revenge is a game Konami made without consulting Kojima. Both NES games are non-canon to the Metal Gear timeline. The MSX games are.

[@WCarnation]

I don't think it is more anti-climactic than MG1's

[@TheTaylorJohnson1]

The only way this can be "canon" is that Snake dreamed this one night when he went to sleep

[@SpiritSnake1]

Msx I mean.d*** auto correct

[@Ironmaiden654]

The NES Metal Gear is good, but the MSX version kicks its ass.....but this game.....just fucking horrible.....the only cool thing about it is the little Metal Gear things that attack "Lt" SNake

[@PolarPhantom]

This is good... Isn't it?

[@GuyOnAChair]

Nooooooooooooo!

[@marhansgamingchannel4732]

yeah.

[@saiyajin11]

well without kojimas help... thats why it sucks

[@CRITTERBUSTERS]

don't litsen to that stupid game manual it was a joke! back in the day's of the NES konami was very lazy when it came to making game manuals for their games.even the first metal gear had a screwed up story in Metal Gear 1 you were taking on some guy called "Vermon Cataffy" when it was really big boss!

[@darwinsimborio671]

wapak ka pare galing mo

[@argamaggedon987]

I DESTROY THE METAL GEAR IN RANK 5

[@gunma747j]

the nes version are garbage,the true sequel msx version have a superior fight