SNAP goes the axle! 8570 combine BREAKS!

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That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey

That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey

Күн бұрын

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@douglasbaker3344
@douglasbaker3344 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Chris glad nobody was hurt. I'm always so amazed on how talented you are not just a hard working farmer but multi expert at repair of farm equipment obviously a testament to your hard working parents Godbless and thankyou for all you do for us all
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, and for watching!
@judithcoffing6326
@judithcoffing6326 3 жыл бұрын
We did a similar thing to a 1460 IH several years ago. Not wanting to one up you but ours was in February trying to wrap up the last 10 acres. I feel your pain. Like you we were thankful it happened in the field and not running down the road. You picked the right way to go with the whole final drive. Man those things are heavy, Glad you didn't wait for dryer weather as dry weather is not happening. At least not here in NC Indiana. Looks like you had some good help getting her back up. Watching you thread the F/D back on with the skid steer was great. I think you could tie my shoe laces with the skid steer. You appeared to be "white knuckling" the steering wheel on your way home. Be safe out there. Remember what happened to me, working on the combine.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Rain has been terrible here. At least it finally cooled off, that humidity we had last week wouldn't let anything dry out. Today would have been a much nicer day, but it seems like when I put things off, I find something else that is wrong and I'm on hold again, wishing I had started sooner.
@natethegreatone
@natethegreatone 2 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to us on our 1480 except on the other side. We weren't as lucky though, it took the ladder off and we were running a 22 foot header. Ended up tweaking both the header and the feeder house. We had to finish the job with the Massey 750.
@stephenfonder7409
@stephenfonder7409 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about your bad luck Chris. On the bright side it sure made for a great video!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
If only I had started recording 20 minutes sooner, I would have had fantastic footage!
@farmark457
@farmark457 3 жыл бұрын
Had that happen to me on a 2670 Case going down the road and hitting a bump. Had duals on and they came up to visit the cab. Broke the cast housing that supports the wheel. Glad your ok and know you’ll have it up and running for sure. Thx
@joegotz1971
@joegotz1971 3 жыл бұрын
We broke an axle running duals on a IH 915. Fun trying to jack up the combine and all you are doing is pushing the jack into the ground. Even better, Thanksgiving morning.
@peterhaan9068
@peterhaan9068 3 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the guys that helped you put that beast up on blocks. Looked like a solid job! Glad it is up and running. I guessing it was a good thing the head was off the header when that tire came off. That couldn't have been good for the head or header!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
If the header had hit the ground it probably would have twisted the feeder house, and wouldn't have done the head any favors either. I'm sure glad I took the time to take it off before moving it. If only I had listen to my brother and recorded it, this video would have been even more interesting.
@reclinerdriver1489
@reclinerdriver1489 3 жыл бұрын
Good stab any day from my recliner .. Cudos to the fellers helping with the jacks and blocks .. U gotta have skills , talent , and luck when U working by yurself . ;-}
@malcolmmeer9761
@malcolmmeer9761 3 жыл бұрын
December 1979. 510 Massey. Friend of mine had a 1953 army tank retriever. Worked really well
@donnebes9421
@donnebes9421 3 жыл бұрын
I never say to myself that a repair isn’t going to be bad. I think to myself this is going to suck and take forever. That way I’m not disappointed.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I like that 👌
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 жыл бұрын
The satisfaction of when the new final drive slipped into place with the skid loader was awesome 👌🏻
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@corydriver7634
@corydriver7634 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, ouch! Dude that sucks, at least nobody got hurt. Also glad to see people where willing to pitch in and help out. Don’t see a lot of that these days.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rodhector4331
@rodhector4331 3 жыл бұрын
Happened to me with international going down the road what a trip
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I bet!
@randymonninger9913
@randymonninger9913 3 жыл бұрын
Love music great job
@jeffgrier8488
@jeffgrier8488 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that makes for a bad day, but at least you got it fixed and the repair went well.
@thomascooper5668
@thomascooper5668 3 жыл бұрын
Well done fixing your Combine
@bigun447
@bigun447 3 жыл бұрын
Now you have the optional fender flares on the right side that cut the amount of mud thrown up onto the sides. You made my ancient joints ache just watching you. At least you had the header off before she went down so your feeder house and header did not get twisted beyond use.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
The lazy part of me said, "Just lock the header up and tow it home, it's only a quarter of a mile or so." I'm glad I didn't listen to Lazy Chris.
@hubbardfarms8174
@hubbardfarms8174 3 жыл бұрын
Happened to me twice on my 7700. First time in the driveway full of corn the final drive snapped off. The second time was heading home to get out of the rain and the axil snapped. As I was sitting in the cab I was saying catch on fire catch on fire. But no insurance check just lots of work. Be safe out there we need you.
@straightpipeacres6365
@straightpipeacres6365 3 жыл бұрын
Sum bioch!!! I did the same with my Case IH. Blew the final drive up but was lucky I didn't bugger up the tin!!!! Have a good one buddy!!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@asmrhead1560
@asmrhead1560 3 жыл бұрын
Oof, that's rough. A "better late than never" tip for the one-man heavy object show: hang a small chain hoist off the fork so you can adjust the height without having to go back and forth into the skid steer.
@petepeeff5807
@petepeeff5807 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a little 3/4 ton CM lever chain hoist lives in my skidloader.
@edwinhopcraft5974
@edwinhopcraft5974 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see you got it back going. It's a good thing it happened in the field and not the road.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
It sure is. If it happened in the road, my next video would have been "Oliver Guy goes combine shopping"
@garybridger6707
@garybridger6707 3 жыл бұрын
So you grow axel breaking beans?? How about mounting a engine hoist on a frame so you can use it on the forks? Just another day at the office!!
@Adam_Poirier
@Adam_Poirier 3 жыл бұрын
Haha the axle breaking beans are a rare variety that only grow in the right climates
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
The tank wasn't even half full, that's a good test weight!
@paulpochan9631
@paulpochan9631 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work...!!!
@farmingforfunandprofit940
@farmingforfunandprofit940 3 жыл бұрын
I would have thought that an Oliver guy would have had a White Combine.......I remember a IH 715 combine owner bought one of those John Deere 6 row crop soybean heads... and the wheel drive support tube started cracking and the drive wheel started leaning in.....He called my brother because he did a lot of welding repair........ We jacked the combine untill the 1/2 in wide crack closed, V -notched welded the crack ( overhead and vertical) and fishplated all 4 sides.........Never saw or heard from it again
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
To me it is a White combine. White was just putting this machine into production as the 9320 in the mid 80s. They were in financial trouble, so they sold their combine line to Massey Ferguson. The 9320 became the MF 8560, which was eventually updated to the MF 8570.
@jamesstanley9839
@jamesstanley9839 3 жыл бұрын
Happy you got it fixed up ! Rough spot to work at but better than on the road! Thanks for sharing with us! 🎃
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I think the road would have totally the machine when that wheel went back into things it shouldn't have. But jacking it up would have been easier!
@rtruth8378
@rtruth8378 3 жыл бұрын
We had 3 8570,s never ever had that happen. Great combines. We now have 5 8780xp,s same internals. Just a little more hp and a wider stance and different planitarys than the 8570,s love em.
@BG-vq9fd
@BG-vq9fd 3 жыл бұрын
Goodnight Anna
@snowman5609
@snowman5609 3 жыл бұрын
We had that same thing happen 4 times three on ours 8570s and once on a 1480 international the masseys all happened while running down the road now that will get your attention and the 1480 happened in the field with a 8row corn head on it in the mud now that was a fun time. Let me tell ya chris you got lucky because when that wheel comes off running down the road you wreck alot of shit ask me how I know.
@michaelfreehling1914
@michaelfreehling1914 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video so sorry it was on a tough breakdown. But I did learn something I'm play Bluegrass to my tractor going down the road so it will go faster LOL
@johnwarren-649
@johnwarren-649 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain on that one I had a 7720 JD do the same thing not fun at all I'm just glad yours happened in the field an not going down the road it wreck the feeder house corn head an sheet metal very expensive fix for the final drive
@Adam_Poirier
@Adam_Poirier 3 жыл бұрын
Being a mechanic that works alone frequently I feel your pain having to get in and out of the skid loader a few times to line things up. If i didn’t live in CT i would come give you a hand lol.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind crawling in and out. If that's the worst thing that happens to me, then I had a good day.
@Adam_Poirier
@Adam_Poirier 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I admire your positive attitude and approach on things. Be careful working by yourself man we need the Oliver guy around for alot more Sunday mornings haha
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
The guys that helped jack it up said they would help get it replaced. It was rainy, muddy, and just generally nasty out, I wasn't going to ask them to work in that when I knew I could get it done.
@nicklambing9268
@nicklambing9268 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Good job on getting it back together solo, in the mud to boot. Not any fun at all. Great example of typical situations we farmers face far too often. Nick, North West Farmer
@billknoderer8202
@billknoderer8202 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the time I snapped the rear axle off my 1680. Luckily there wasn’t any major damage but a trip to the junk yard for a new center beam and trunion is all.😂
@charleskittler4330
@charleskittler4330 3 жыл бұрын
Great job of working the breakdown 👍👍
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jamesguralski5156
@jamesguralski5156 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Joseph!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I had gotten his email and a couple days later found out he works at my local Agco dealer!
@mischef18
@mischef18 3 жыл бұрын
That sure made for an interesting video bro, glade nobody was hurt and was able to be fixed in the field. Safe travels
@b.abrackus6403
@b.abrackus6403 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry that your combine took a beating..But So glad your safe! This has been quite a Fall..
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
It has. Ive got about 1-3/4" of rain in the gauge since yesterday afternoon, and it's still coming. Guess that means I get get some shop time in.
@jeremyverworn5298
@jeremyverworn5298 3 жыл бұрын
Its just lucky stuff likes this happens in the field sometimes and not on the road, still a crappy situation though.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be looking for another combine if it happened on the road. That wheel would have gone back into the clean grain elevator, and hitting the hard pavement would have messed other things up.
@scottpayne7876
@scottpayne7876 3 жыл бұрын
"Looky there!" 😂
@scruffy6151
@scruffy6151 3 жыл бұрын
Bummer about the break down just glad you were able to find parts.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Scruffy. I thought they might have to come from farther away which would mean shipping. With a weekend in there, I could have lost some days in the field. We had sun and wind today, I should be able to get back at it tomorrow.
@scruffy6151
@scruffy6151 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris good to hear the weather is getting better for you.
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 3 жыл бұрын
Our shop had to replace a cracked square tube that the axles mount to, on a combine. Biggest problem is what do you Jack on, since normally you would Jack on the square frame member. Very sketchy repair, when we had to get under the machine to remove and replace that frame member. At least we were working on pavement.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
We dug under the frame where it wasn't quite touching the ground and used a bottle jack.
@millardhayes1884
@millardhayes1884 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully when you get that sheet metal banged out some you'll feel better too. That was a big lick to take. Wow.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Every bump and thump is going to make me nervous for awhile.
@allannantes8583
@allannantes8583 3 жыл бұрын
I would get replacement sheet metal from a parted out machine and then mount the old sheet metal on the shop wall. That way when your grandchildren ask “what’s that grandad” you can tell the story about what happened back when you were a young fellow. However new sheet mental means a new paint job but your up to that challenge and she deserves to be pampered. It will get rid of her moodiness. Remember a happy combine means a happy life.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
@@allannantes8583 More for the wall of shame!
@cameronboyce4695
@cameronboyce4695 3 жыл бұрын
Had a similar issue a number of years back on our 1420 International. We had a full hopper, made a turn at the end.of the row and popped all but two of the bolts holding the final drive on. The two that held were the top to and it bent the top of the flange over at a 45 degree angle. Our combine was an earlier model that used 5/8 bolts for the final drive, they later used 3/4 because other people were having similar failures.
@darrintraywick8042
@darrintraywick8042 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a Massey combine axel break before just John Deere with grip tracks
@RobertFay
@RobertFay 3 жыл бұрын
*- Consider: a longer loop of chain to the clevis to give yourself more repositioning/swing.*
@Oliver66FarmBoy
@Oliver66FarmBoy 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s rough. Been there done that on my 525. Luckily I noticed the final drive was sitting on the rim so we didn’t try to move it. It puts a knot in your stomach when a combine stops moving for no apparent reason.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
The flange the holds the seals is strong enough to support the hub, so it doesn't move much, until the taper on the inside of the hub walked it out when we moved it. Going to head back to the field today. That puts a knot in my stomach.
@Oliver66FarmBoy
@Oliver66FarmBoy 3 жыл бұрын
Could have been worse. Gotta look at the bright side. If it had to happen at least it happened in the field and not on the road. A little sheet metal damage and a final drive are a lot easier to fix that totaled combine. Like with my 525. If that thing would have snapped even 3 minutes sooner I would have been on the road doing 20 mile an hour. I don’t even want to think about what could have happened in that situation.
@onehappyfarmer3461
@onehappyfarmer3461 3 жыл бұрын
You made that look easy for a one man repair crew. Got any tricks up your sleeve on getting the side panels straightened up?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
A hammer, or maybe I'll leave them as a badge of honor.
@OOpSjm
@OOpSjm 3 жыл бұрын
Word block and hammer
@Adam_Poirier
@Adam_Poirier 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Chris I’m sorry that happened. Thats a shame about the sheet metal, that combine is so straight and clean. Coulda been worse though that clean grain auger looks like it got lucky the ground was soft. The other thing that’s crazy as you said that you had crawled under it to look at the coupling imagine if that casting had broken when you were under there? I do stuff like that all the time as well, it just goes to show you don’t really know what can happen. Awesome video I really like the music in the background
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing afterwards, that wheel could have popped out while I was under there. Thank goodness for small favors.
@jordanriggins4954
@jordanriggins4954 3 жыл бұрын
We had one to snap like this one but ours was a 750 MF we were going down the main highway
@Murphyslawfarm
@Murphyslawfarm 3 жыл бұрын
G'day Chris wow i am so glad you are safe and so glad the Old girl did not roll over
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Murphy! Thanks! How have you been doing?
@Murphyslawfarm
@Murphyslawfarm 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Its going good been busy with family
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 3 жыл бұрын
That's wild! I've seen spindles break off grain carts, and once in a while a tractor axle breaks, but never a combine! Do you think that was a factory flaw?
@allannantes8583
@allannantes8583 3 жыл бұрын
That must have scared the poop out of you, glad to see your ok. Thank god for that. You have way to much love in this girl to be mad at her. Just put in the hospital until she’s all healed up. Let the neighbours come by to finish the harvest.
@badencraig7778
@badencraig7778 3 жыл бұрын
How have you never seen a combine axle break
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm not the only person to break an axle on one of these, but I've seen ones with duals, aftermarket bin extensions, not to mention I run the smallest grain head they made for this machine. It's not like I'm stressing it compared to some of what is out there. I've got to wonder if there were a bad batch of axles. Maybe to too much crystallization in the case hardening? I know Oliver had some bad ones in some of the bigger 55 series. They generally didn't break, but would flake off chunks at the keyway.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Doug Cultra, interesting. I'll check the service manual and see what it has to say about maintaining bearing load on these units. Thanks for the tip.
@michaeloedy1568
@michaeloedy1568 3 жыл бұрын
Two pieces of machinery made my dad and I a lot of money was our massey 8570 combine and our 2705 Massey tractor. No major breakdowns or setbacks for 20 + seasons over 550 acres a year. Now have a 7485 and hire the harvesting out. Don’t owe the bank nothin!
@doublediamondgarage3031
@doublediamondgarage3031 3 жыл бұрын
Technically you're not farmin if you don't break stuff! The glass replacement looks top notch, nice work!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
True. I might have to start wearing a hat and leather work boots too.
@Davefromrollinghillsfarms
@Davefromrollinghillsfarms 3 жыл бұрын
You are amazingly patient and talented. I would have had to pay a dealership big 💰
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was trying to figure what it would have cost if I had called a dealer. I'm not sure what an in field service call runs these days.
@Jane-rq7sv
@Jane-rq7sv 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing it didn’t break in the road. Did you try the scrubby tric or have you not had time. Do you know we’re I can find a surplus of Oliver combine parts
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't had time to try the scrubby yet. I'd try Larry Svehlak in Taylor Texas. Do a google search for Svehlak Tractor and you'll find him.
@Jane-rq7sv
@Jane-rq7sv 3 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks for the help finding combine parts. I am trying to find sources fir parts for when I do the 431. Almost got my hands on a corn head for one. It would have been neat to have ot.
@AmosMosesJr
@AmosMosesJr 3 жыл бұрын
Was there grain in the grain tank when it broke?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, somewhere around half full.
@shawnclark7051
@shawnclark7051 3 жыл бұрын
Skill chris nothing but skill👍
@whiteout1962
@whiteout1962 3 жыл бұрын
Dang! Now I would be wondering if the other side is going to snap!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I hope not, but it makes a guy nervous.
@isaacwegner6714
@isaacwegner6714 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody is talking about the sheet metal I think based on all the other things you have done you can definitely fix that
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I started grabbing onto and bending back some of the sheet metal by hand, once it was back in the barn. It doesn't look like it is going to be too tough, but I was wet, muddy, and dinner was ready. I decided that part could wait.
@donaldelrod9172
@donaldelrod9172 3 жыл бұрын
so was there an o ring or a gasket to go between the axle housing and the planatary assembly?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
No, the final drive assembly is self controlled.
@briansmith1514
@briansmith1514 3 жыл бұрын
Positives - Wasn't muddy...wasn't 20 degrees out and snowing...didn't happen going down the road....most of all no one got hurt. How full did the swear jar get?
@briansmith1514
@briansmith1514 3 жыл бұрын
oops didn't watch far enough before comment...ok at least it wasn't muddy when you were cribbing it up.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
The swear jar runneth over.
@gordoncarpenter1552
@gordoncarpenter1552 3 жыл бұрын
You sure made that look easy
@brimptonestateservices3317
@brimptonestateservices3317 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 167 I was combining on sidling slope, and ALL the wheel bolts broke free and the wheell fell off. Fortunatly the wheel that came off was on the upside. That was fun, re boring and tapping the hub.(in the field on a slope)
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it was!
@brimptonestateservices3317
@brimptonestateservices3317 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Its that sinking feeling when you realise exactly what has broken. "What do I do, who do I know who might be able to fix it, how do I move the "Vehicle/machine?"
@theda850two
@theda850two 3 жыл бұрын
Auxiliary fuel tanks in the fenders on the 2050?, both sides?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@edzimdahl1158
@edzimdahl1158 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that's a pisser, at least could be a field fix and didn't require hauling in, when we had crap happen pa would say you rip it apart and I'll head for parts, will call before heading back to check if you found anything else needed
@frankwurth5375
@frankwurth5375 3 жыл бұрын
Chris, good save, glad it didn't fall while your under it! We had a 915/ IHC do the same thing years back, I did notice the oil seal leaking but didn't worry as we had work to do and figured to replace said seal later. I now know better, if the seal leaks, the shaft is loose or something like what yours did. On mine the wheel fell into the machine so it wasn't as bad as yours. Our present 1660 had a seal leak right after I got it, checked it out right away, found the outer bearing bad, so it happens more than folks think. What was the story on the cab glass?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Moving to another field during wheat harvest and a semi kicked up a rock that shattered the windshield.
@timpalmer7614
@timpalmer7614 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Nice job on the windshield. I was actually looking back to make sure it was the same combine when you mentioned it.
@Kale050
@Kale050 3 жыл бұрын
my uncle hat the same happen to hes New Holland combine, axle snapped right off
@leoashrae4199
@leoashrae4199 3 жыл бұрын
Count your blessings. We had the axle on the 7300 break... right under the cab! What a mess. It had quite a few hours on it so after that disaster we parted out the header, engine, and whatever else didn't get mangled when the wheel came up against all those belts and pulleys under the cab. I've seen a John Deere 6600 axle break in exactly the same place as your Ferguson so, this must be a problem that a lot of combines share.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't seem to be brand specific. A nearby farmer was having trouble with the wheel bolts coming loose with his Deere combine. They finally figured out that making sharp turns with duals was stressing the bolts, because the outside dual has to travel farther than the inside when turning. They started making wider turns, or 3 or 4 point turns if needed, and the problem went away.
@purplerunner1715
@purplerunner1715 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh snap, that was a rough one, good luck getting her back together again, hope it was not to bad banged up after the dive. Looks like Joseph will have a few hours of work to do on his "new" 2050, hope nothing major and that it will give him many enjoyable moments years to come.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Joseph said the engine was seized, but he's got that freed up already. He's going to get the injectors checked out before trying to fire it up. It had been sitting outside for years when he bought it. I'm glad he's bringing the old girl back to life.
@aaronbenkert1141
@aaronbenkert1141 3 жыл бұрын
Glad no one was hurt but oh dang that’s not fun.
@billloomis4975
@billloomis4975 3 жыл бұрын
I shudder to think how much agco would want for that hub, if it's possible to get it.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
The axle shaft is $2,600 and shows as available, I didn't look up the outer casting that was messed up.
@billloomis4975
@billloomis4975 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris That's high enough, not as bad as I thought it would be.
@michaelstark703
@michaelstark703 3 жыл бұрын
The Phoenix has risen. Dang lucky it didn’t cut loose when you went under to investigate what was wrong.
@Tractors101
@Tractors101 3 жыл бұрын
A farm just down the street had this happen a couple years ago with their combine. I guess axles can be a weak point on them. They replaced the final drives with ones off a larger machine that had axles over twice the thickness.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about some of the newer versions of this machine. At some point they bumped up to a 300 bushel grain tank, I wonder if the mounts for the final drives are the same.
@bwfpfc
@bwfpfc 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris We've got an 8570 and an 8780. The final drive mounts are very different.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
@@bwfpfc thanks, that's good to know.
@warrickjones590
@warrickjones590 3 жыл бұрын
Good work sir that combine looks similar to my dads old WHITE combine his had a V8 Perkins engine what's yours ?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
This has a C series Cummins. A v8 Perkins must have been a 9700 or a 9720
@cesmith4566
@cesmith4566 3 жыл бұрын
Spalangers have never let me down! You would have thought White would have learned a lesson with the 8600s
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the final drives are one of the few parts that were actually from the Massey line and not the Whites. The axle shaft was used in the 850/855 and 860/865 machines
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I did some more digging, and it looks like the unit was identical other than the stud pattern on the back side of the housing.
@robmiller2919
@robmiller2919 3 жыл бұрын
The 8560s used White final drives, 8570 used MF.
@cw3339
@cw3339 3 жыл бұрын
Did you check the oil level in the gearbox?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@cw3339
@cw3339 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Good that would be a costly mistake to burn it up
@woodenhead8887
@woodenhead8887 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, that’s tough Chris. I think that’s a fairly common failure on those, same thing happened to my buddy’s machine. Of course there’s never a good time for a failure like that. I’ve wondered how hard it would be to get access to that area for an inspection, a mag particle or die penetrant (easy to do yourself) inspection could reveal the crack after it starts but before it’s a complete failure.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
The way the hub comes up over the final drive, the only way to inspect would be to disassemble.
@andrewwagner7992
@andrewwagner7992 3 жыл бұрын
I really hate to see that, it's a shame that it tore up your side sheets and your sheets around the cab as well. A crack like that would be next to impossible to detect and that could happen to anyone. Thank the heavens that the darn thing didn't fall when you were trying to diagnose your problem, and were crawling around it. Glad you're safe and got it back together again.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jimh6879
@jimh6879 3 жыл бұрын
My God you need a shop truck
@douglaskauffman2692
@douglaskauffman2692 3 жыл бұрын
You get your new parts at Spallangers? Just heard you mention Ohio. Glad you got it fixed.👍
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I did. This final drive had only 400 hours on a rebuild. It was just shy of a 3 hour drive. It was neat seeing so many combines out in the field. I don't usually get to see others harvesting, because I'm in the field, too.
@trevorfout4759
@trevorfout4759 3 жыл бұрын
Just around the corner from me great place to get used parts
@douglaskauffman2692
@douglaskauffman2692 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris They are about 40 miles north of me, good place to go. Have a safe harvest
@rogerburkholder7524
@rogerburkholder7524 3 жыл бұрын
@@douglaskauffman2692 About 40 miles west of me. Got some Gleaner parts there, but our Massey 9540 is too new for their parts.
@nelsonfarms20
@nelsonfarms20 3 жыл бұрын
Sucks that it happened, but glad you were out from under it when it gave way!
@devandulin6073
@devandulin6073 3 жыл бұрын
Did you go to that combine salvage yard around blufton Ohio?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, Spallingers near Bluffton. I think I got the last one for an 8570, but they only have 2 machines in the yard right now,
@devandulin6073
@devandulin6073 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I live about 20 miles from there. They sure do have a lot of stuff. Surprisingly they know where everything is.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
They look organized. I was in and out in no time.
@paulvanburen3834
@paulvanburen3834 10 ай бұрын
Broke one on our 8700 5 years ago. $600 for used final drive
@jeffhoman767
@jeffhoman767 3 жыл бұрын
Tough break least you weren't in it when it happened looks like the machine could tip fairly easily
@jeffdraper2079
@jeffdraper2079 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late on watching but to bad they didn't use bolts instead of the studs then you could have done it without taking the brake off glad you got it fixed.
@misterhipster9509
@misterhipster9509 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you had the safety pins out on the skidder arms, not a good day entering/exiting and accidently hit the wrong lever.
@Military-Museum-LP
@Military-Museum-LP 3 жыл бұрын
I bet this was a shock of just running along and this happens.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Flat ground, no holes or anything that would have stressed it. All I can figure is something in the past got the axle cracked, and it's been slowly getting worse until it finally gave up.
@Military-Museum-LP
@Military-Museum-LP 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris. It looked like it had been cracked for some time.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. There's no way to visually inspect it without disassembling it.
@gavinhenderson3861
@gavinhenderson3861 3 жыл бұрын
At least it didn’t happen on road
@edmikula9637
@edmikula9637 3 жыл бұрын
That seems to be an Oliver probllem. Ethan had the same problem minus all the sheet metal damage on his 7300 last year, I dunno man 30 40 years and they break, what's happenened to quality.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy. You'd think those shafts would get harder as they cured out.
@edmikula9637
@edmikula9637 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris You ought to check t he middle of that shaft, it mightjust be case hardened
@davidmarley9471
@davidmarley9471 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, sorry about your misfortune, but like others say, could have been worse. Glad you got it going again. Short war story: Years ago a local guy did custom work with a 5297 Minnie Mo, same combine as a 5555 Oliver. He snapped off the final drive housing making a turn at the end of a corn field next to the county road. The combine sat there for several years. I tried to convince a friend to fix it up, we got permission and went to fire up the 383 Chrysler and the separator. All seemed to work, but it didn’t happen. Gone one day, assume it went to a grave yard. Also makes me think of all these new combines lugging around 400 bushels.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how big the axles are in those monsters. 400 bushels, duals and a 12 row cornhead is a lot of weight.
@davidmarley9471
@davidmarley9471 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris For sure, and a few out there with a 16-30 corn head.
@earlpierson8145
@earlpierson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Paint it green then you won't have that problem
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin 3 жыл бұрын
You should buy a lottery ticket!! Just think of all the things that could have happened... Stripped a couple of couplers on the JD 7700 we had.. luckily, never broke the drive axle.. broke a few rear axles too..
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
It could have been much worse. At least it still works and is still paid for.
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris exactly!!! And you are still here to show what happened
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 3 жыл бұрын
sterling effort, boss and a top result. i was quite concerned for your safety though, at quite a few points in the video. relying on that bottle jack
@ces188charles6
@ces188charles6 3 жыл бұрын
Well that sure gives a person a shot of adrenaline..... Bet there were a few chosen words said.......lol.... Glad you were able to get her back up on all fours and hopefully nothing else got damaged.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Everything else seems functional. Another day or 2 of drying weather and I should be able to find out for sure.
@joelthompson7564
@joelthompson7564 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about your misfortune. Good job on getting the combine rolling again!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@michaelobrien9764
@michaelobrien9764 3 жыл бұрын
one person jobs like this no fun been there Use a hand chain hoist between forks and hub get it close with skidd and go up or down with hand puller
@sambuntin7198
@sambuntin7198 3 жыл бұрын
Better check the other FD ASAP. One side usually follows the other.
@robertdaly9036
@robertdaly9036 3 жыл бұрын
How awful, you could've used help with the operating the forklift.... The guys at the start did a great job propping it up. Good you got it going again, could've been a lot worse..... 👍👍
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Those guys do all my spraying and fertilizer. I'm pretty sure they've had to do this to some of the rigs they use because they got right in there and got it taken care of.
@robertdaly9036
@robertdaly9036 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOliverGuyChris This was a very good video that you probably didn't want to make.. Any ideas why the shaft failed ? I've seen a few shaft pullys do this, but this seems very unusual
@jaycow3154
@jaycow3154 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 850 massey ferguson combine drove it home took 4 hours with 6 row head on it after seeing this I'm glad I made it you never know
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I had a hydrostat hose blow out after pulling out on the road, and had a half tank of corn. We towed it back into the field, but now I always lock the header up and have an empty grain tank before I hit the road.
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the windshield.... Yup, that's the side that hit the ditch...
@nicklambing9268
@nicklambing9268 3 жыл бұрын
Hello neighbor, hope things are going well! Nick, North West Farmer
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicklambing9268 hello neighbor!! Hopefully you have been well!! It's been a while.
@onealfarms9967
@onealfarms9967 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain here I don’t care what color combines are manufacturers they don’t think of jack plates or when something like this happens they are all in the same boat got to said doing this all by yourself 👏you deserve it my friend
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@farm2655
@farm2655 3 жыл бұрын
And I thought I was the only one that had this kind of stuff happen to, that being said its been a few years since I had a combine axle issue, last was the old Gleaner L2. It is good to see you are back up and cutting again, do you have many acres left to go? We are down to about 30, but I have a wobble box to replace in the morning. Good luck!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I'm closer to starting than finishing. Every time things get dried out it rains again.
@RJ1999x
@RJ1999x 3 жыл бұрын
L2 broke a front axle? Allis Chalmers used Rockwell finals that were made for duals, back before duals were common
@jamesbeavan9057
@jamesbeavan9057 3 жыл бұрын
looks like a quick power washing would make it a lot easier to get it cleaned up and ready to disassemble.
@localcrew
@localcrew 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly how the axle snapped on my combine. Actually, it wasn’t a combine - it was a front end loader. And it broke inside of the brakes and planetary. So not like this at all. Still - I feel your pain! You just got a sympathy subscription! 👍
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take it. Lol
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