Nothing wrong with OCD when it come to your tools. I by no means have high end tools, but I take pride in what I own and make sure its spotless before it goes back in the tool chest.
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
Same. I remember one time I yelled at my dad for putting a greasy wrench in my box and didnt put anything back right. I definitely deserved the backhand that I received for screaming at him. But I guess both of us learned our lesson that day because hes never put a dirty tool back ever again
@Torontodude200004 жыл бұрын
Same here. I give them a good wipe down before I put them back. Especially these days.
@samuelw.39922 жыл бұрын
I get sick of people not caring about my tools addiction.
@joshcraven97814 жыл бұрын
"Every tool has a hammer side." - Eric O. - SMA
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Haha not my tools. You are welcome to use them as a hammer but you will replace them with the exact kind or newer version and you can take the “hammer tool” with you.
@eternalmaddness4 жыл бұрын
Not a screwdriver
@joshcraven97814 жыл бұрын
@@KoonTrucking So I was wiping down my toolbox last week, and i found quite a few paint splatters on the side, the workstation front and some drawers (my snapon box happens to be flat black). I was quite pissed off. The only guy that paints in the shop is my co-worker. And he does that after we are done for the day. His response was "I dont know how that got there." So needless to say i managed to get all the spots off, and i am looking at getting a toolbox cover from Snap-On.
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
@@joshcraven9781 save yourself a ton of money and do what I did. Measure the size of your box and go online and purchase yourself a BBQ cover. It works just the same at half the cost
@joshcraven97814 жыл бұрын
@@danieltubbs458 yeah i was gonna do some looking around this weekend as far as options.
@TyrantOfHellsLand4 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for wiping the crud out of the insides of your sockets before putting them back on the rail!
@Ram2253spd4 жыл бұрын
That’s really nice of Hamilton to look up part numbers for people in other countries. I can’t even get a snapon rep to come to the shop
@kennethorton36614 жыл бұрын
That Hamilton is such a cool dude a very good salesman I Braig to all my fellow workers we should have a salesman Like him The dealer we have upstate New York is crusty
@stevenragsdale96032 жыл бұрын
Hey clay, I know this is an old video, and you probably won’t see this but I think the reason I take such good care of my tools is because those tools are a reflection of my time... time you’ll never get back. You get paid for your time and in return with that money you buy tools to make you more money. I always think a person that respects and cares for their tools is someone who respects and cares about their time.
@KoonTrucking2 жыл бұрын
Exactly not to mention all the money they spent
@claytonscheiber34934 жыл бұрын
I treat my Harbor Freight tools the same as the few higher end tools. I may be a shade tree mechanic, but my tools are still an investment. It saves the money of taking my vehicle to a mechanic. I'm with ya on the cleanin. I dont like puttin mine away with finger prints, nevermind grease or oil. It cant get dirty unless its clean.
@davidpinnix74464 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I left my dad's pliers in the yard. Next morning he cut the grass.. Yep he hit the pliers! I was lifted up by the arm and whipped all the way to my room! And I miss him every day. Great video!
@kkswain962 жыл бұрын
Washed my Motorola razor out in the washing machine, and then ran it threw the drier. It still worked when I found it after the load of laundry was dry lol
@glenngosline1710Ай бұрын
I know this is a older video. Really enjoy your videos
@KoonTruckingАй бұрын
Thank you
@72gunslinger4 жыл бұрын
"fine looking box" needs to be on a tshirt !!
@keithmerce38634 жыл бұрын
I’m with you on cleaning tools . Nothing will set me off more than someone using my tools and putting them back with grease on them or if they abuse them.
@manpig19914 жыл бұрын
No doubt!! Not only is it rude but its straight disrespectful...
@drwisdom14 жыл бұрын
When you are OCD you don't care if others return your tools dirty because you have to reclean them even if they appear clean on return.
@hsmith38444 жыл бұрын
I had a customer try to get me fired years ago as certified Harley Tech. Guy walked into shop and walked up to my box and stated going thru my large Snap-on box. I told him to get F away from my tools, him and owner came downstairs to "Talk" to me I just told him I can have my tools in the back of my Pickup in under 5min with fork truck and he could let the guy finish his own bike. Turned around and told customer "Your Call, sparky?". worked there four more years then drug-up
@greymarket68344 жыл бұрын
im saving up for my first set of snap on wrenches
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
A snapon bottle opener and a Michelob Ultra are his only tools on the weekend
@jamesvarnell9917 Жыл бұрын
Hey Clay, I'm a big fan of your channel and although I am Not an auto mechanic, I was an industrial mechanic and taking care of my tools was a very big deal for me, my tools made me money, guys I worked with would talk very abou the way I would clean and organize my box after every work order, and I had a cheap set of tools I would use as loners, my good stuff for f my hands only.😂
@pbAdpcustoms4 жыл бұрын
I really like my snapon guy. He has always done me good and never let me down
@judosailor4 жыл бұрын
I’m just a DIYer and will probably ever own a snap on tool unless I get one as a gift. Lol. But you both seem like such nice dudes and it’s fun just listening to you guys talking about tools.
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Well thank you! I appreciate you watching.
@scubbarookie4 жыл бұрын
My Pop's had a crocodile 🐊 belt; that he would threaten us kids back then, when Crocodile Dundee was a big deal! Lol! He actually showed me one of the shop's bill, for tools purchased! I knew the value of the dollar; even back then, when I was just a kid. I was born in April 22nd, in 1974. I miss my old man so much! You guys are great! Thank you Clay!
@leandrewcordova39904 жыл бұрын
Your the reason I take time every day before I leave to clean my tools and make sure they are good to go next day . I appreciate how you put why you clean them up
@tylerharrison9126 Жыл бұрын
Great video, feel like it was painful to end it but it appears that this happens regularly and you both are profiting 🤙
@ranct18154 жыл бұрын
I totally agree I clean all my tools after my work shift ends and now the all their technicians at my job are seeing my toolbox and how organized in it is they're now starting to clean their tools and box... 👨🔧 👍
@southernfarmer85264 жыл бұрын
I dropped my razr phone from a crane 75 foot in the air. I saw it go into 3 pieces an when I got down to get it I put it back together an only cracked on the bottom corner! Loved those phones!
@T6Tarek4 жыл бұрын
Nothing better then clean tools. I have some of the first generation comfort grip snap on tools from when I started 20 years and you'd think they came off the truck yesterday. I have always taking pride in the tools I own. If I'm paying 200 for a set of screwdrivers I want them to look like 200 bucks every time.
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Exactly !
@ryanm90694 жыл бұрын
I bought those 100 year anniversary screw drivers too. They sat in my box wrapped up for about a month. Put them in my storage cause i dont want loose them or something lol
@upnorth54654 жыл бұрын
I am eternally grateful for your tip on using tub o towels. They work awesome. Especially with all the high viz snap on stuff I've been buying lately. I was taught just like yourself that you take care of your stuff. Whether it be guns, tools, vehicles or anything else that you have invested your hard earned money on. People like to call me a tool polisher but I am far from it. To me a tool polisher is someone who buys something and never uses it.
@rickwalling11482 жыл бұрын
I never leave my tools out overnight! Even if I’m not done with a project! That drives me crazy
@natevanlandingham19453 жыл бұрын
I just wipe my tools. Maybe not even a clean rag like you said. If the rag is too bad I might get a new rag.
@ecleveland14 жыл бұрын
I've got a buddy of mine that could take that demo and open everything back up and even get the updates down the road free of charge. It's a good thing he's an honest guy and has a security clearance where he goes to work.
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
Those are the guys you are glad that are on your side
@WizzRacing2 жыл бұрын
OCD is when you use fast orange on your screw driver handles.Then blue shop towels to wipe it off. As I hate grease and grime on mine...And they are stacked in order of size....
@bluefj-wc3vz4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the Razor being my favorite old school phone. Dang that was trustworthy .
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
I could go 3 weeks without charging the thing
@anthonymason7014 жыл бұрын
I much preferred the samsung hue flip phone... dont know why but i did
@PDPIE10293 жыл бұрын
I’m with you. You pay good money for something, take care of it and it’ll take care of you.
@robertbowser18834 жыл бұрын
I can remember when I was a kid back in the 70's, watching Saturday morning cartoons and there would be a commercial come on that talked about using the right tool for the right job the right way. I guess that has always stuck with me. I learned the value of clean tools when I turned 16 and started buying tools to take care of my truck. No regrets.
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
Amen to that.
@theone95644 жыл бұрын
I always remember Mr. Koon saying there is a tool for every job. Something like that😉
@danielroncaioli68823 жыл бұрын
Treat your tools like your life depends on them…..because it does. My dealer offered to trade me a full set of new instinct grip screw drivers for my original soft grip screw drivers because they looked almost new. They are 16 years old now, and they still look fantastic.
@RobtheAviator2 жыл бұрын
I find that cleaning your tools, even wiping them down if they’ve been sitting for awhile, is a good way to fight corrosion. I live on the coast and when you’ve got a ton of tools, it’s pays to keep them clean and well maintained
@ryanchase80872 жыл бұрын
Koon you are awesome, you and Hamilton are funny guys and always make me smile. Keep up the hard work I love your videos, especially tool box and “what you need videos”
@KoonTrucking2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@calvin22884 жыл бұрын
I clean my tools after every job being a marine mechanic, my mates look at me and say why are you cleaning your tools. The simple answer is if you take care of your tools the tools take care of you
@boystoyz89224 жыл бұрын
I Got me a high viz 3/8 ratchet and it does not get used. I just love how bright n shiny it is. I just can't bring myself to getting it all greased up.
@mikethemechanic73954 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I work in a shop where I am the senior mechanic with 20 years. I have guys with less then 4 years of experience. These guys would work on a truck and leave spills on the shop floor, dirty tools, parts everywhere. They did one engine swap on a F250 and swapped parts and never washed or cleaned the intake or anything. My OCD went nuts and my manager and I had a big talk about talking pride in our work and keeping everything clean. Most of the problems is just being green and new. My guys at the end of the day would have piles of tools on their boxes and would frantically hurry up and put them away. I would tell them to wipe their tools down as they use them as they go. It takes extra time to clean but it’s with it. I replaced a radiator and used all new bolts and even pained them lol. I have had Snap on since day one. Every Snap on mechanic has OCD. Everyone else are usually not as clean. I am not being a snap on snob. I have known mechanics who do not have snap on and keep things clean also. But it’s rare. I think because you spend a lot of money on your tools for work. You care about keeping things clean. I always say this. Great mechanics keep their tools clean and work on cars on their days off. Their cars are clean and their house also. One tip I have for snap on guys is to get a Cover for their snap in box. My current Snap on box I almost cried when I came in on my day off and a coworker was grinding right in front of it. He embedded metal in the front. A lot of mechanics who don’t have snap on don’t care about other people’s stuff. I have been in my shop for 6 months. I have had to tell 2 guys to wipe my tools off when they are done. One guy used my snap on chair and left grease all over it. I told him I sit in it every day to change into my boots and use it often in the day. The guy got pissed and called my picky lol.
@Na7ure4 жыл бұрын
Mmmm I love these long form videos. I put em on while I’m workin in the shop
@Toolaholic74 жыл бұрын
You are right about using the tub o' towels cleaning tools up,got me to do it.Grease,oil and dirt come off easily what a rag does not remove.I keep one on my tool cart now on my 2nd one.Look up this on youtube,Yes Dear Court.It is an episode of Caught in Providence,you and Shiloh will laugh watching it with the husband saying this: Yes dear.
@claytonscheiber34934 жыл бұрын
Also... the true light sure makes Hamilton a sexy devil. Just look at that thumbnail, what a handsome glamour shot. LMBO🤣🤣🤣
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Haha model material !
@216mechanic24 жыл бұрын
Put my Netflix show on n pause just too watch snap on Friday....then I saw it was a half hour long I grabbed a 🍺 and ate some 🍕 nothing like snap on Friday👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thank you ! I really appreciate you watching !
@alexbonilla16694 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about the snap on scanners because I’m looking for one to do side jobs and I’m not sure which one to buy
@ryanm90694 жыл бұрын
I have an ethos pro, bought maybe 3 years ago. Reads codes and you can also see some freeze frame data, or you can look at monitors, like various sensors. Think i paid like 1800 for it though. Still use it to this day though
@Terry_Baker4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Clay. Love me some Snap-on Fridays...
@jaymechanic12284 жыл бұрын
Pearl blue just came out as a new colour over here in the uk. I picked up a 1/4 drive long hard handle and 40oz hammer in it , love that colour
@6548ww4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with keeping your Tools clean between uses no matter if they are Snap On or the cheaper stuff I have a little bit of everything of every brand but have accumulated a lot of Snap On + Mac and some SK Tools as of late still got all my Craftsman, Husky and Gear-wrench stuff no need to throw them out just because I got some higher end tools in my Box
@bigturbost6662 жыл бұрын
Watching some of your older stuff and I'm a new-ish technician in the field.. between my dad teaching me how to treat tools and stay organized like yours did, and tech school pounding us with weekly roll cart checks and marking us if something is out of place or not cleaned.. you best believe that shit stuck with me and everyone who goes in my box comments on how clean and organized every drawer/tool is. Makes you feel better and it's almost unexplainable but the people who are like us know exactly what we're talking about LOL
@christopherelrod87884 жыл бұрын
I always put my tools away in their proper location although they don't get the attentive clean often probably once every other month. Just a quick wipe off and put up so there are finger prints and general grease marks but I only spend two minutes cleaning and organizing tools
@cucolopez19424 жыл бұрын
Clay can i get the part# on that light HAHAHA just kidding. Always look forward to your videos thank you for the content
@kissmybasskindle96624 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking all over for a pearl blue handle ratchet no one around me has one
@theone95644 жыл бұрын
My 11 year old son is starting to buy some harborfreight tools. I'm excited!! I always left my dad's tool all over place.
@mr.sandman68734 жыл бұрын
Finally rained today...stood outside for about 10 minutes just to cool off! Hope you guys are finding someway to keep cool.
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
Keeping refreshed with cold beer is an easy way. Drink up brotha
@gregcothrum40454 жыл бұрын
Great video y'all have a great weekend and stay safe 👍
@ethanwhitehead65954 жыл бұрын
Best day of the week
@redwarrior3204 жыл бұрын
My 55 inch box looks just like that blue one! I have a roll cart same color, almost bought a Matco box but the Snap-On man offered me more on trade for my old one and let me put it on my truck account at a reasonable payment! No credit account!
@stevenjones18244 жыл бұрын
Another great one, I'm a heavy duty mechanic and found the pliers you showed for the push lock air fittings very interesting I would love to see how they work if you ever have time to show them thx.
@paulmendenhall52264 жыл бұрын
I can't for someone to use my tools and put them back dirty or in the wrong place lam training 2 new techs. And it is hard i have to tell them everything like you don't use my crome sockets with the impact and my matco 42 in prybar with the striking cap don't mean that you can use a sledgehammer on it
@WA-zl6ju4 жыл бұрын
FYI. Clay got my mini cobra pliers 87 00 100 They are mini. About 1/2” overall shorter than snap on AWP45. The cobra head is also narrower.
@michaeledwards63354 жыл бұрын
My tools are my partners and I never abuse or leave my partners behind. They work and they get cleaned up and put back in there spot ready for the next job. Good Job and really like your videos.
@JoeyShelby784 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the video Clay!! thank you for your hard work on the videos! the hard work always shows! nice,Hamilton has pearl blue ratchets! hard to find!
@marksbuggy4 жыл бұрын
I watch all the time I am from West Virginia
@larryborkstrom35804 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with taking care of your tools at all I'm fussy about mine as well
@ChevyConQueso3 жыл бұрын
I was a Bill one time way back when, but I changed my ways. It's too easy to toss an old blanket over a seat or use a fender apron, put on some nitrile gloves so you have clean hands in an instant when you need them, and it's too easy to give a tool a wipe down with kerosene or WD40 (one thing it's good for). Really dirty stuff gets a good soaking before wipedown. Why work hard when you can work smart? I enjoyed the banter fellas.
@joshmx71614 жыл бұрын
Wipe it with a rag and let it go is how I roll. After a long, late day job I sometimes don’t even go that far. To each their own though haha
@Lsutiger2254 жыл бұрын
Man I was beast at t -9 texting sounded like you were writing a novel when really you were just saying “what’s up”
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
It forced me to memorize my keyboard so I could still pay attention and text in class when I was in Middle school and high school
@ChevyConQueso3 жыл бұрын
Had my buddy's teenage sister teach me how to text like a pro. I miss the old flip phones, but I miss my Blackjack with real keyboard buttons the most. Touch screens suck.
@jaysinclair9724 жыл бұрын
I wish my snap on guy carried cool new items. Half my dealers tools have been on there for like 15 years
@altonbarbee88644 жыл бұрын
I try to clean my tools at the end of each day, but not to the extent you do. One reason I don't like comfort grip ratchets is hard to clean handles.
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Get some tub o towels. They work great on them
@dylanandersen93184 жыл бұрын
Thats one reason I like the hard handles on the snap on ratchets
@philip600rr4 жыл бұрын
Get oderless mineral spirits it works on everything. Will not melt the plastic or bubbler on tools. Wipe on wipe off grasshopper.
@Walle15154 жыл бұрын
That roll cart is awesome, I have the candy apple red cart with black trim only issue is the top drawer rubs the top so that it scrapes the paint away eventually but its a tool box so...
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Oh heck no if it is a snap on you need to talk to your dealer they will make it right
@Walle15154 жыл бұрын
Koon Trucking my dealer retired about a month ago lol
@andrewduff47194 жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of getting grease in an interior. for a cleaner I would HIGHLY recommend the motocraft spot and stain cleaner.
@johanacosta83104 жыл бұрын
I want a flashlight like that one, right away.
@Michael-w8v4 жыл бұрын
It is relatable. I don't allow anyone but my coworker and me to fix our test generator.
@kirbyskilldustbunnys Жыл бұрын
Personally I was raised to take care of my possessions however I was also raised to used what I had to get things done. I use my tools as intended but I also use them as practical tools such as using a bladed driver for slotted screws but also as a prying tool that being said I don't use it for actually heavy-duty prying I use it for you know I'm in a pain shot got to use something that's right they're sort of situation. When it comes to cleaning my tools I keep my tools as you put it about 80% clean for the screwdrivers and stuff with like a plastic handle I wipe those down with a tub of towel but for like a wrench or a ratchet I don't have any soft handle ratchets I can't stand those ratchets so I always get the are metal handle because then I can just take her shop rag and just wipe it down and if I need to do extra you some type of towels but I don't make some showroom perfect. I use them and take care of them.
@firsttimediesels62893 жыл бұрын
I really like the snap on digital torque wrenches, do you have a video of him showing one off or not yet
@KoonTrucking3 жыл бұрын
Yes we have showed it in the snap on Friday videos before
@roaddoglv4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Solus Ultra. It’s got the trouble shooter . Last upgrade will be the next 2020 update.
@IMKINDOFABIGDEAL134 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine took his brand new diesel range rover to the dealer for service. The white leather was covered in grease as well as the steering wheel and dash and there was muddy footprints in the carpet when he got it back. He is just now recovering from a heart surgery and I am sure that may have been part of the cause.
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@carterdouthwright71653 жыл бұрын
that is called a true day light i believe
@jamesburch716 Жыл бұрын
Hope ol Hamilton is doing well. Yalls videos were great. Did you get another SO dealer?
@KoonTrucking Жыл бұрын
Not yet!
@johnn25574 жыл бұрын
I have to agree that Tub-o-Towels work great at cleaning tools especially plastic handles, but I have been using WD-40 for years to clean my tools. It removes just about anything and it leaves just enough of a oil film to prevent rust on certain finishes-ie impact sockets! I've been getting my stones busted for years over keeping my tools clean and organized but it's worth it!!!
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
I agree about cleaning tools for sure. Way too much money not to take care of them
@THExLAWxMAN4 жыл бұрын
My dad taught me the value of tools at a early age. I found out that a ratchet is not a hammer. The hard way. Lol. All of my tools may not be top brands, but I take care of them, and they take care of me.
@donaldhollums32784 жыл бұрын
My Daddy had a tool set he bought at Montgomery-Ward's when I was a small boy (I can hear the Whipper-Snappers now, "What's Montgomery-Ward's"? After a while of trying to fix my bicycles and my friends bicycles my Daddy wouldn't let me use his tools anymore; I lost quite a few of them. No, he didn't buy me my own tools either. The military "dress-right-dress" has stuck with me all these years, although it has waned some. I used to drive my wife crazy. I'd say, "No, that one goes here and this one goes there." She would roll her eyes at me.
@drwisdom14 жыл бұрын
Being a Snap-On dealer, Hamilton knows the truth about tool boxes. I have a Blue-Point roll cart that is similar to the Snap-On one in this video but not as nice. I didn't like it because you have to take everything off of the top to get in the upper compartment, so I gave it to my wife who uses it for painting. She puts a small easel on the top and the tubes of paint in the drawers. So I wondered why would mechanics get a roll cart if they could just roll their KRL722 with nice work surface over to their job? The reason is they traded in their tool box for a huge KRL1023, which when full of tools is a pain to move. So they get a roll cart and live with its compromises. I have an old KRA-380 with a wooden board on top and I prefer that over my modern roll cart.
@P463454 жыл бұрын
I'm 51 years old and when I was a kid the term "time out" was only used in sports, my Dad never used a belt on me, he used a piece of my Hot Wheels track. Point well taken Dad, I still flinch when I see Hot Wheels track. ;-)
@thejeepinrealtor5742 Жыл бұрын
Miss some snapon Friday!
@TheTheomax4 жыл бұрын
This had to be one of the more entertaining videos I've seen with you and Hamilton. It had me laughing so much I couldn't help myself so I came back for round #2.
@funfunfun74414 жыл бұрын
Now that is service!
@tannerdamico98953 жыл бұрын
Man id like to have him as a snap on dealer here in NC
@prestonfrisbey14284 жыл бұрын
Man that was a great snap on Friday! Really enjoyed that one y’all! Much love from Missouri!
@KoonTrucking4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Sometimes it’s good to just shoot the breeze and laugh, I know Hamilton gets tired of talking about Tools, we honestly hardly ever talk Tools even off camera !
@lecompterc833 жыл бұрын
Took we a while to translate “tub-a-tile”, but I got there! Great video, keep’em up!
@airratchet73134 жыл бұрын
I'm the same way with my tools, and every guy I train turns out the same way.
@danieltubbs4584 жыл бұрын
That's how it should be. In college they should teach these techs like at UTI about organization and using a clean tool
@jon-erikbutcher36094 жыл бұрын
I heard you mention the Davie software... Davie sucks, atleast what I experienced with it. Gotta send parameters off to corporate to get approved and sent back. DDDL has an easy friendly software
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic3 жыл бұрын
Dont feel bad clay generally the best techs are ocd.
@philip600rr4 жыл бұрын
I use oderless mineral spirits to clean my tools.... I'm a clean freak as well.
@fredstroh43084 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just need to spend time talking about everything and anything. Helps keep you balanced
@oldman33884 жыл бұрын
I have in car tools and under hood tools I never throw or drop them just can't do it 🔧🔧🔧🔧
@dylan50014 жыл бұрын
Would you ask Hamilton if snap on carry’s any swivel head 1/4 ratchets in a long handle?
@DentsideAddict843 жыл бұрын
Off topic question, does Hamilton wear contacts? The way he blinks makes me think his eyes are dry from wearing contacts! 😂
@tiny06214 жыл бұрын
Hey clay so who’s box is it look Familiar but I’m not sure love the videos thanks for the cool content
@dieseldoctor92944 жыл бұрын
That is 1 of Clay's old tool boxes. He traded it in awhile back.