Help me understand how people are mad that they’re “not using the wrenches as intended” but there’s KZbin channels that make a living torture testing ratchets and people will reference those as quality gauges but not this. Yes snap on cost more, but it’s showing the higher quality steel used to produce. Likely similar results with other American brands like wright, Cornwell, and Martin. So take the snap on vs harbor freight out of the equation and you’ll see that there’s a difference between American virgin tool steel and Taiwan
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Right on, great comment
@justinleonard44119 ай бұрын
Show me a recent cornwell wrench that's made in America
@tmurph2479 ай бұрын
Show me some steel that was recently made in America @@justinleonard4411
@EricEric-rj7dd9 ай бұрын
Wright doesn't play second fiddle to anyone.....there isn't a better wrench made in the U.S.A. and way cheaper than Snap On
@clintonmclimore83709 ай бұрын
I mean no shit did you read the caps. It clearly states proof is in the steel!!
@djka80129 ай бұрын
Even better is the one dollar yard sale drop forged wrench from grandpa’s time.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Dude you nailed it!!
@danialphaomega9 ай бұрын
Yep i have many hand tools from the late 90s and early 2000s from SnapOn and matco ALL MADE IN THE USA BEFORE they started to be made in spain, Germany or Taiwan or China 😂
@shidukirider9 ай бұрын
Ive got boxes of those, brands I never heard of but they look like good tools
@sumkneegar27669 ай бұрын
Yep im 25 my dad is 64 he has a whole garage full of tools new and old. He has a whole toolbox from the 50s of rachets, sockets, and wrenches. (They were his dads) And i can 100% tell you no new tool i have ever held has felt as heavy duty and as quality as those tools. Broke a few wrenches and sockets on stuck bolts trying to use a pipe or extension on them. The moment i go grab one of those old tools and put the pipe on them. They dont even so much as bend and always get the bolt loose.
@burpostockings9 ай бұрын
For real. Idk what brand they are, but I could probably loosen the bolts on the statue of liberty with em 😂
@clifford24279 ай бұрын
I'd really like to buy American, but snap on prices are outrageous! & i have a hard time getting them exchanged when they fail.
@danhigbee22839 ай бұрын
That's the rep I've never had a issue with snap on. Wright is a great tool. If you shop garage sale and flea markers keep a eye out for billings have never been able to break one even with 5ft plus cheater pipes. Got a 25/32 socket for over 50 years hell the 1/2 drive end is a clean as the day it was made. The grade of steel is the difference
@kirkeicher61228 ай бұрын
I’ve got 3 cracked SnapOn sockets and 1 torque wrench in my toolbox for past year waiting to get them exchanged.
@Ecocleanpw8 ай бұрын
And they are made in China now so why pay higher price.
@Nick_Barone8 ай бұрын
@@Ecocleanpwand since harbor freight employs Americans, you can technically still feel “patriotic” when shopping there. (If you’re into that)
@zack99120008 ай бұрын
@@Nick_Barone Most of the Icon tools come out of the same factory as snap on gets them from.😂 There is a ton of USA made Icon tools and that are identical to snap ons lol
@MikeAnderson-uj3oo9 ай бұрын
Im a professional mechanic. I don't buy only one particular brand of tools. I buy the ones that work for me. Some tools, like line wrenches for example, you need to buy top quality like Snap On. A 2 pound hammer,,, HF will work just as well as a Snap On. Spend your money wisely. If you are just starting out , buy some cheaper stuff and replace them when they wear out or break. I have lots of tools that i purchased 30 years ago that still preform exactly the same as when I bought them. So why replace them ? It's way too easy to get yourself in major debt with these tool trucks. Having a big fancy tool box loaded with only one brand of tool will not make you a better mechanic. Just be smart people.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Me neither smart man
@NateDog_WDE9 ай бұрын
Well said, I think most good mechanics understand that snap on tools are better than harbor freight but in my opinion having the best of the best stuff is not worth going into extreme debt for especially as a new tech. If you have to choose between quality and quantity for your tools I'd choose quantity any day.
@johnnyboi56619 ай бұрын
Well said, I have some Milwaukee impact, but as for my wrenches your looking at a $140 tool box that came with 430 pieces off amazon, and it’s been doing me well for year. No need to go expensive, my cheap tools works just as well as expensive ones.
@toddk13779 ай бұрын
I usually hit up garage sales and see what I find for tools. I scored big time last year, this lady's husband passed away and she was having a huge garage sale. I found an older US general toolbox (the three tier style on wheels) full of Snap on, craftsman, and S K tools. For what I imagined to be $1000 or more worth of tools since we're talking about wrenches (both metric and eas, complete sets), sockets (same as the wrenches but in 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 inch drives) , screwdrivers, hammers, crowbars of various lengths up to 36", ratchets, extensions, saw, and an angle grinder. Only thing missing was a welder and a torch, lol. I bought the entire set for $250, which is pretty damn cheap considering everything I got.
@MrRickwe769 ай бұрын
There is always a difference between the quality and the reliability of different tool brands. Perception plays a big part also. While a lot of my tools are from HF I also understand the concept of the different brands. I don't do work professionally, just my own and some general maintenance on family vehicles. Maybe in a more professional setting, I would probably lean more on the big names in the market for the reliability of the brands. As a home maintainer, I just can't justify the cost of the big brands. My actual mechanic uses mostly the big brands, and has a few HF I don't care if they get ruined tools in the shop.
@Flynn_Stones9 ай бұрын
Is Snap-on better than Icon? Yes, without a doubt. Is it as much better as it is in price difference? No, absolutely not. Does Snap-on charge exponentially more for being better quality or for being made in America? Neither, it's for having the "Snap-on" brand name and because they can. Lots of Snap-on's stuff is made in the same asian factories as Harbor Freight's stuff. If anything Harbor Freight's lifetime warranty is easier for most consumers as it's just a trip to the store on the same day it breaks. If money is no object to you, then sure go ahead and buy Snap-on. But if it is, then why would you? It's like buying designer clothes. You know the markup is like 2000%, and 1600% of that is just them charging you for the brand name.
@itstheonethatsaysbmf31559 ай бұрын
💯
@jeep13ca9 ай бұрын
Their wrenches fit where the others don't. The open end holds on better. When you use them for a living the higher cost is offset by being able to do the job quicker and easier. Just my 2 cents. Buy what you can afford and what works for you.
@XJag96849 ай бұрын
A wise man in the back woods of Mississippi told me it's called "SnapOff" for a reason. Only tools I've broken and seen break✌️
@WilleJamesHuff7 ай бұрын
Exactly right on the markup. A lot of tech schools have student discount programs. The one I went to you could get anything you wanted 50 percent off. Including boxes. So if they’ll just take 50 percent right off and it’s ok think of how little they probably have in making it.
@tylermacconnell2177 ай бұрын
Almost every Snap-On hand tool is made in the USA. Try again.
@Asbivilian8 ай бұрын
When I first started as a mechanic the Snap-on 19/21mm flip socket for lug nuts was around $50. I went across the street to Harbor Freight and bought 1/2" drive 19mm and 21mm deep impact sockets. They were $0.99 each. This years makes 21 years that I've had them. I did end up getting the flip socket for work, but I always used those at home. Still going strong. Most of my tools and box are Matco. They had the better deal when it came to financing it. Over 10 years I spent close to $30k on tools. I used to get a plaque from the Matco man each year that showed how much I had spent with him. He gave them out to his top customers. The Snap-on man did give me a pair of socks though!
@Materthegreater569 ай бұрын
I’ve had my icon set for 3 years everyday use no problems. I do have snap on stuff too but I’ll save money where I can. Icon has treated me great.
@joshk.44709 ай бұрын
@@markchidester6239It doesn't always have to be a measuring contest dude. Some of us can't afford to drop serious money on the best tools out there when we are living paycheck to paycheck and a cheap tool gets the same job done just fine.
@KHunterK39 ай бұрын
@markchidester6239 my snap on wire cutters are junk from trying to cut 10g copper wire. Alignment is off and they won't cut a plastic zip tie...
@michaelfolchetti46249 ай бұрын
If you use tools as they were INTENDED THEY WILL LAST.I HAVE CRAFTSMAN TOOLS FROM 1970 I USE EVERY DAY!
@Slingchain8 ай бұрын
@@markchidester6239 both have great warranties, so my guess is you'll both be happy.
@spikespiegel22468 ай бұрын
Yeah you're not torquing anything with such a tiny wrench that it would be likely to break anyway. But I do love quality.
@eduffy49377 ай бұрын
Being able to bend a wrench the wrong direction is not a great selling point...
@BroneOppa7 ай бұрын
You can make your own angle wreches.... For much more cost
@dev.b96859 ай бұрын
My Forman told me that if you use the tool for the job it was meant for as intended you’ll never need to buy it twice.
@maxpulido9 ай бұрын
My foreman told me the tool provided was fine even as it wouldn't even turn on, half of it was missing, etc. Etc.
@dev.b96859 ай бұрын
@@maxpulido he damn right now go grab some vice gripes and crutch that broken wrench.
@jonathanwright55509 ай бұрын
Depends on what industry. I've worn out spanners and impact drivers. It's only irrigation work so doesn't require high end tools
@clayton91368 ай бұрын
Your "foreman" is an idiot.
@Crowfist8 ай бұрын
My foreman once told me a certain bandsaw was a piece of shit and belonged in the river.
@megastick93249 ай бұрын
I have used a lot of “ store brand “ wrenches over the years , and generally they do just fine, BUT, there are particular tasks, especially with open ends, that I do spend the coin on the high dollar stuff. Most open ends cant take a lot of force before they start to spread and slip off or round a bolt/nut. Snap on and some of the older expensive brands will take a lot more before opening. So I do keep a small collection of high dollar stuff for special jobs, but mostly store brands will work for day to day wrenching. It’s the same with screw drivers , Allen wrenches and other tools, sometimes the best tool for the job IS the expensive one, I save them for those jobs and use the hell out of the store brands on the daily.
@cslloyd19 ай бұрын
I am far more likely to lose a tool than to break one. So I buy the cheapest tools that solve my problem. If it breaks, then i consider moving up in quality. I am not a pro and, for the frequency i use most tools, disposable is fine with me. If this strategy wasn’t best for me, i’d reconsider, but it’s served me well.
@orange32039 ай бұрын
To be fair temper is always a fine line. You want the open and box ends hard to keep from stripping the bolt. I prefer tests that show the tool compared in its actual use. That being said i dont buy icon wrenches becase they are overpriced for what they are. All my standard wrenches are gearwrench.
@billlee17249 ай бұрын
Bingo!!!!!! A lot more thought went into this test then face value
@madjackgamingandfitness4985 ай бұрын
You don’t buy because they are over priced for what they are. Then say gearwrench. Wtf.
@orange32035 ай бұрын
@@madjackgamingandfitness498 gearwrench is a decently affordable tool that I've found to be higher quality than icon and way cheaper than snap-on.
@jeremyhopkins57468 ай бұрын
Can confirm. Snap on’s metallurgy is top notch, I have a set of long zero offset wrenches for alignments and I use them to ‘forcibly adjust’ camber all the time.
@iankerr15498 ай бұрын
Love the 0 degree offset wrench’s, I have a set of snap on and a set of gear wrench with the flex head on one end
@PedalTheGlobe9 ай бұрын
Show us both sides before inserting into vice. Could have easily partially cut backside of icon first.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Lol
@PedalTheGlobe7 ай бұрын
@CPthetooladdict I was trolling a little, but then I noticed they re-did video after. 🤣
@richardwang4745 ай бұрын
I personally don't use snapon because i am not a professional mechanic. Im just some asshole who changes oil and an ignition coil or pully every now and then. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for, and your tools need to hold up to the level of work you do.
@joshrod2941Ай бұрын
@@richardwang474 🤣
@malbright459 ай бұрын
Most of you don’t get it First off I broke the wrench. That’s me in the video and the icon wasn’t notched and I’ll gladly do it again and show a 360 of the wrench before I put it in there. But let’s break this all down. 1. Of course you don’t use a wrench that way. That isn’t the point. The point of breaking it 90 degrees was to show the quality of the metal. The icon just snapped and the snap on I had to push and pull to break it. It wasn’t a trick. I honestly just wanted to see if I could do it. And I kept going with bigger sizes. 2. Congrats you made it this far in reading. I’m proud of you. 3. Americans specifically I’m speaking to you. Times are tough as hell and I get it as much as all of you. I see $2 dollars for this icon wrench or $100 for the snap on or whatever the cost. If you have an old lady and she did the shopping you probably go with her now to tell her “hold up put that back we don’t need it” because everything’s crazy now. I get it! But that’s the damn problem! We let the Chinese, Taiwanese, and all these Asian companies produce lesser quality products for a cheaper price. You still may pay Fortune 500 business owner but that’s not at all going into an American line workers pocket. No American Forged that Icon wrench. That was some dude in china or Taiwan or whatever for .50 an hour or even less. Snap on charges because ALMOST all of their product is made here by American hands. And paid a quality rate. Now how can they charge low prices at high quality if they are paying somebody $15-20 hourly not including paying for tooling to build when china can pay somebody 50 cent hourly. I’m not saying buy snap on I’m not saying icon is the worst ever but their has to be an American company that makes a wrench the same quality as icon that’s a few bucks more. So what? Spend the extra 10 bucks and buy the American set over the Chinese and put it back into American hands. I buy snap on because I mean look at me, I’m obviously somebodies trophy husband.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
You made a great comment now you see why I get so frustrated people want to hate no matter what you say do or try to explain they could care less to find some sort of reasonable conversation but rather start talking about the absolute dumbest things they can think of. Good job, Matt!! Plus look at it this way their are 1700 👍 and 400 comments and half of them are saying the same dumb things the smart people just like because they know the comments are where the fragile hf fanbois cry lmao!!
@shawnheath71289 ай бұрын
Do it again
@malbright459 ай бұрын
@@shawnheath7128 bet
@malbright459 ай бұрын
@@joseulloa8769 boy you didn’t read the entire thing and I can tell you
@Tolohtony9 ай бұрын
Most of my stuff is Craftsman because I worked at a Sears Auto Center and got 33% off. If I was just starting out, I would go Icon to get going and replace as I was finding the weak links. Gotta look out for my own pocket first.
@jasonsechrist19 ай бұрын
I inherited some snap on tools from my grandfather and I'm gonna tell you they are legit, the sockets are well above any I've ever used. They grab tight and don't strip.
@RedneckBaller9 ай бұрын
Not much difference for $9 a wrench for icon VS $100 for snap-on
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Nope none at all ray charles
@mrvalhalla65779 ай бұрын
@CPthetooladdict no one uses wrenches this way so his point stands
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
@@branchtana315It's best to let people think you're an idiot rather than open your mouth and prove it.
@nobuddyimportant21069 ай бұрын
Years ago, saw a kid shatter a brand new HF 19mm impact socket taking off a lug nut. First use of the socket. Got a small piece lodged in his cheek, under the eye. Snap-on or Matco. Nothing else for me. Well worth the cost. CP, keep the videos like this coming. The younger techs need to understand how valuable good tools really are.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Another 1 in 50 comment that brings in real world knowledge thank you!!
@sungear8 ай бұрын
Agree that snap on is better and this test demonstrates the material property difference. However, i use wrenches for turning the heads of bolts, not as pry bars, chisels or anvils. If the test compared torque capacity there might be less difference.
@andreranch61618 ай бұрын
Got a couple wrenches they just say “Canada” on em. Grandpa used em during the war fixin planes
@AToolWithTools8 ай бұрын
I'm curious if those were made by Gray. Which Gray is still around and still making tools in Canada.
@richardmann4006Ай бұрын
Harbor freight has these snap on dealers looking stupid 😂😂😂
@CPthetooladdictАй бұрын
Love the empty calories in your comment. Did you miss the knowledge download at birth or just decide to wing it from day one?
@richardmann4006Ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict this might be the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while. Explains a lot 😂
@CPthetooladdictАй бұрын
Apparently, sacrasam is lost on you - maybe it's time to dust off those Hooked on Phonics CDs?
@smeerdsn9 ай бұрын
Not a flex, but I've got most people's mortgage just in my ratchet drawer. Took me 10 years of hard work to get my box as full as it is with 90% snap on stuff, including the box. I have no regrets about it, I'm feeding americans, not slave labor countries that put out the bare minimum when it comes to their "quality" work. Bring back american manufacturing
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
I do as well lol
@SOLIDSNAKE.9 ай бұрын
Jesus man you've made me feel better about my expenses
@trelang55419 ай бұрын
I see forklift mechanics with more tools then my whole shop has when I go to different shops really if you want something ur ganna get it
@TerpsPurps9 ай бұрын
That’s cool, along with many others…what do you want? A congratulations? Did no one ever give you validation? Ok, “Congratulations dude”
@bendominick2129 ай бұрын
You bend over for your snapon guy too? Plenty of American quality tools that are just as good quality that aren’t a mortgage worth. Vim, mayhew, martin, proto, lisle, etc.
@theone8619 ай бұрын
Both guaranteed for life.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
LiFeTiMe WaRrAnTy
@Redawesomeoby8 ай бұрын
I remember the last time I was undoing a fastener and needed to bend my wrench sideways.
@CPthetooladdict8 ай бұрын
You are living proof that manure can learn to walk and talk.
@Redawesomeoby8 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict You wanna let me how much credit usage you're at this month? Or is that all under a personal loan
@CPthetooladdict8 ай бұрын
That's your problem your to stupid to understand that when you work, you make money and can pay bills and not have debit wild concepts, isn't it? Get off welfare and stop living in mommies basement insufferable human.
@Redawesomeoby8 ай бұрын
Spoken like a shop owner, I can say this though. ICON ain't gonna put you into tool debt the same way snap on does and it'll get the job done. Besides, less money spent on tools means more money I can spend on other stuff outside work.
@CPthetooladdict8 ай бұрын
Snap-on doesn't put you into debt either, but once again, you are so insufferable that you can't comprehend financial responsibility.
@campbellbuilt9 ай бұрын
I”ve never seen anyone pull their emblems off their Snap On box to install HF emblems but the other I have. I’m not ashamed that I am a Snap On wrench fan boy, especially 15mm and smaller.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
That's funny I think you just gave me a idea lol
@trailblazer6329 ай бұрын
I mean why would you pull off a 30k emblem for a 3k one?😂
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Because I can and it will piss off more snap-on fanboys
@campbellbuilt9 ай бұрын
I’m just gonna go straight to my corner and start crying 😭😫😭.
@trailblazer6329 ай бұрын
@CPthetooladdict sure but... short of the joke aspect obviously no one is going to make something expensive look blatantly cheaper. After all most snap on or other tool truck fans are quite... proud... of their debts lol
@holdernewtshesrearin54719 ай бұрын
I dont give a damn what anybody says there is most definitely a huge difference between chinesium alloy and good old American iron! Often times, HF tools are good enough but if it comes down to REALLY working and stressing your tools, the USA, German, Japanese tools will prove far superior.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Amen tell them how it is!!!
@Mac-mu9cs9 ай бұрын
There all getting china steel , lol
@holdernewtshesrearin54719 ай бұрын
@@-jimmyjames - China is made in Italy.
@benfarms319 ай бұрын
@@Mac-mu9cs not true for at least SO and Wright. Probably not true for Proto ie mac knucklesavers either if they have any government contracts too
@Tools_and_Guitars9 ай бұрын
How is it possible that so many people seeing this test don't grasp that it is merely demonstrating steel strength. And It should be of no question that wrenches are not intended to be used in this way. Again, simply a robust/torture test of steel quality. This has become a really crazy world.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
People are so delusional that they need to grab on to any little thing to fill the insecure feelings
@bradleywise8359 ай бұрын
@@D4nkrupt i use wrenches all the time that way when i need to extend a wrench for leverage
@edward19379 ай бұрын
Sometimes you have to. When I first did tie rod ends I didn’t have a pulley on me at the time, so used my craftsman USA 1 1/16 wrench, wedge it between the ball joint and knuckle, and just stomped on the end of the wrench. It did the job amazingly (although it does send the wrench flying).
@dabratton809 ай бұрын
Its because you can see the slit they cut in it
@ThatsQuacktastic9 ай бұрын
because people are dumb
@davepollnow32739 ай бұрын
I don't like icon either it's expensive. But if you buy Pittsburgh it's a lifetime warranty. Without paying the snap-on price! So if I break my Pittsburgh I just return it and get a new one.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
At least you can say something intelligent it's rare that anyone in the comments gets it. it's not about what I like it's about what works best for you, and you are happy!!
@katnerd6712Ай бұрын
Well, the primary difference is the Snap-on costs $99 for a single wrench and the Icon costs, what? $15? Snap-on's quality is, obviously, better. Anybody who has used the tools never questioned that. Is the increased quality equal to the savings? Probably not. It's the warranty that matters and they have the same warranty. If a tech needed to replace all their tools I'd recommend the Icon's over the Snap-on's simply because they'd do the job without putting the guy in debt for the next twenty years. I prefer the Mac and Matco guys anyway though on the rare occasion I buy of fa tool truck anymore. And for wrenches the starter stuff I recommend to kids building their initial toolbox is usually Gearwrench. You get that nice set of top tier wrenches a couple years in.
@CPthetooladdictАй бұрын
Well you overlooked the biggest difference icon had less than 5 yrs of industry exposure and snap-on has a 100yrs 50 yr old snap-on wrenches are still worth more than 5 yr old icons but I also have mac wrenches not either snap-on or icon excite me.
@katnerd6712Ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict Yeah,you commented right as I was editing my post, LOL I view these mainly as "starter" sets for people getting their first professional job. That and I'm not really fond of the Icon wrenches. Gearwrench is cheaper and at least equivalent quality to Icon. I got all my tools stolen when I had a job that provided tools. When I got a job that needed tools I had to replace stuff fast. Harbor Freight did save my butt since I was very paranoid about getting in debt with the tool trucks (past experience). But, as others have said, you gotta be picky. Some tools need to be top tier, others not. I'm still replacing my starter stuff with higher quality as needed though.
@edgarcorrea78669 ай бұрын
Snap on has its purpose but most everyday tools for professional use dont need to be snap on and for the love of god please dont ever buy snap on eletric tools theyre literally chinese remakes of hart tools. GARBAGE.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
LiFeTiMe WaRrAnTy
@tre25639 ай бұрын
Ah yes. For 3-4x the price you can use your wrench as a pry bar. Sometimes the justification people try to use are just ridiculous. Whatever helps you sleep at night though lol
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Essentially, I was demonstrating the level of intelligence of an average harbor freight user.
@RussellHoughton9 ай бұрын
So you proved that both brands will break if used wrong.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
No I proved that harbor freight fanbois are the most insecure and fragile people on the planet read the comments I accomplished exactly what I wanted triggered insufferable maliciousness and never said anything bad about icon or harbor freight in the video.
@RussellHoughton9 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict yes interaction I know how it works.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Lol
@masterxace9 ай бұрын
20 years ago I used a (if I remember correctly) 23mm wrench to tighten down the pinch weld clamps on a chief alignment machine. The snap on wrench snapped off and flipped around sticking in my forearm. Few stitches later and I have never purchased another wrench set since and use Mac husky and icon which has done me just fine.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing I have all mac wrenches
@tanjajohnson46599 ай бұрын
I don't have many harbor freight tools, but when it comes to small drifts, I buy the harbor freight because when they break HF doesn't tell me that I didn't use it in the manner it was intended and refuse to replace it. HF just says, sorry and replaces it. The only thing is that they need me to bring in the entire set and they replace the entire set.
@greapsoho9 ай бұрын
Even if you dont have the money for snap on( which is really one less energy drink a day)you could buy Wright wrenches and still not send american dollars overseas to never be seen again.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
You got it 👍
@andrewthetool9 ай бұрын
Now I want to go pick up a set of icons and see if this happens.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
LiFeTiMe WaRrAnTy
@OACSOME9 ай бұрын
Yes we all know that’s not what a wrench is for. (usually) You can use harbor freight, but don’t pretend it’s same quality of the tool trucks dude. (except Matco, that shit is junk)
@beansmcdonough17828 ай бұрын
Wow I expected more from the snap-on. Thanks for the informative video.
@CPthetooladdict8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@larsbambi15759 ай бұрын
I appreciate the video. I always wondered how these icon tools were. They look so similar to Snap-on. I am basically just a weekend mechanic not sure if I can quite afford Snap-on but I do believe we should support American jobs.. I want to find the perfect medium. It used to be Craftsman but I see they went full on Harbor Freight on me. What is the perfect American Tool for the backyard Shady Tree mechanic?
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johnharbaugh94719 ай бұрын
I will keep on using my Snap On tool(s). Some from my grandfather, some from my father and all going one day to my son.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
That is awesome!
@timothyhiggins64309 ай бұрын
If we got rid of everything outsourced that we own, we'd all be naked, sleeping outside next to our snap on box and tools.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Exactly people are so ignorant thinking buy cheap garbage is helping anyone but themselves
@timothyhiggins64309 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict Yeah, I think it's all too late structurally for everything to go back to the way it was. Made in America by Americans. Rebuild instead of replacing. Like when you could buy starter rebuild kits etc. Now it's throw away and buy another.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
@@timothyhiggins6430 I'm afraid you are correct destroy to rebuild
@HVACR_ToolNut9 ай бұрын
The truth is the truth, no matter how much it hurts the fan boys! Snap on for the win AGAIN!
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Usa made craftsmanship and quality topnotch people just need to understand that no one cares. If you buy an icon, just don't try and pretend it's as good it's not the same quality.
@johnbrinkley14409 ай бұрын
Ok but who would do that to a wrench and also if icon breaks you get a free replacement and the cost is way lower . Snap on is not ver priced it’s great tools just too expensive
@RedneckBaller9 ай бұрын
How is it a win it still broke with about the same amount of movement and also harbor freight is open 7 day a week and i can swap it out same day and dont have to be without a tool for a week
@V.AJackson16119 ай бұрын
It ain't beating a MAC either
@HVACR_ToolNut9 ай бұрын
Well respectfully, this was just a test to show how much more pressure it took to break those wrenches. It clearly applied WAY more pressure to break the snap on one. The test could of been done a little more accurately with how much actual pressure it took to break it, however it 100% broke that wrench with WAY more pressure than the icon. The steel used is a higher grade steel that just feels so much more better in your hands and is just a pleasure to use. Icon is a good brand for people starting off in the trades.. But once you get a job that actually pays you what you're worth (skill set) then you can upgrade to snap on's. They are without a shadow of a dought the way more superior tool no matter how butt hurt anyone gets! These are just facts! Mac is also a awesome tool brand as well! Also if you don't have new snap on tools that you are actually using then how can you knock em and say they're the same? They're 100% NOT the same at all! FACTS 💯 SNAP ON FOR THE WIN! 🏆 🐐
@anthonyfulton32182 ай бұрын
I use Pittsburgh wrenches and haven't had a single issue with them yet. I get some stuff from Snap-On like air tools and some miscellaneous items, Milwaukee for electric tools, and Icon inpact sockets. All that stuff works great and I've only spent about $5,000 almost filling up my toolbox. I will say, Snap-On is king of ratchets and chrome sockets as far as I'm concerned
@CPthetooladdict2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@timothy93609 ай бұрын
That's just because snap on has a better hardening process. Icon is still decent quality tools.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Man, look, it's another intelligent person you are about 1 in 50 so far thanks!!
@timothy93609 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict Well I have about $100k in snap on tools I turn every day, so....
@Lisandro69 ай бұрын
Snap on flank drive wrenches. best wrenches ever and save your life every time working in the rust belt
@Tools_and_Guitars9 ай бұрын
That's a great point on safety. I think that often gets overlooked a lot by the HF maniacs. Tools (like wrenches) need to made with strong steel that is less likely to be compromised, especially with daily use. I am not a professional technician, but still, when I am deep in the engine bay, I don't want to use something can potentially break on me and cause injury if can be avoided. So for those circumstances, I have more trust in Snap-on or Mac.
@EricEric-rj7dd9 ай бұрын
Wright 2.0 best the Snap on
@smokeskull9 ай бұрын
Snap on is less likely to leave you stranded. They are professional tools made to withstand daily use and abuse
@meegstomtom9 ай бұрын
I like my snap on stuff but have stopped buying it cause if when they do break, now I'm stranded for weeks waiting for the crappy routeman to come back and replace it... The routeman can make or break it as a tool is only as good as the warranty. And the warranty is worthless if he doesn't show up for 3-4 weeks even after calling him.
@StationRussification9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I have suffered 3 burglaries over my Career & my Snap On Tools were replaced & even up graded with out any questions by any employer, insurance company or government agencies
@MrBear-lc5pz9 ай бұрын
I used craftsman... because sears was near by.. and I didn't have to wait a week for the snap on guy... oh yeah it was also 1/3 the price too... but I loved the old snap-on calendars..
@runningbear19825 ай бұрын
I bought a set of Kobalt that were made in the USA to get started back 25 years ago. When I see old Craftsman at garage sales and estate sales I get them. I've got some knick-knacks here and there. Snap-on, S&K, Cornwell, Proto, Mastercraft, etc. Most of them I found in Old vehicles at the junkyard. I prefer the Kobalt. My only complaint is when you go to Lowe's to pick up replacements for lost sockets, bits, etc, they're all made in Taiwan. I usually just replace them with a Tekton.
@CPthetooladdict5 ай бұрын
It's definitely a good call. I like your way of thinking!
@og_scuba_fishingsteveo79989 ай бұрын
Haters will say it’s fake but we all know who’s makes the best
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Amen 💯
@Kami8929 ай бұрын
it’s the fact that the tiny skinny snap on survived while the thicker bigger icon snapped immediately there’s no question that snap on has higher quality, some of the highest available. it also *shouldnt* be a question that the price is higher, america has this thing called federal minimum wage, not to mention the craftsman are probably making double it at least. but yeah china doesn’t have a minimum wage, so odds are one was made for less than 5 dollars while the other was 10 for materials but 30 to make it.
@clckhere8789 ай бұрын
I hope you meant cents and not dollars. Snap on doesn't have more than 5$ in any wrench.
@mrvalhalla65779 ай бұрын
Chinese tools and Taiwanese tools are not the same.
@Kami8929 ай бұрын
@@clckhere878 just in labor and the machinery needed to make the tools. yeah i think they’ve got 5 dollars in.
@clckhere8789 ай бұрын
@@Kami892 in each wrench. I can assure you, snap ons cost for each wrench is nowhere near $40
@Kami8928 ай бұрын
@@clckhere878 yes! you are right! the wrench itself doesn’t cost 40 dollars. what about the machine used to make it? or the person making it? those are free i guess? so why don’t you make your own wrenches. oh right, it requires extremely expensive (and large) machinery, as well as someone who knows and is trained to use that machine.
@malbright459 ай бұрын
Still bent the hell out of the 19mm icon and couldn’t bend snap ons at all
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Ya, I didn't use that video. The quality didn't come through as well, so thanks for sharing
@malbright459 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict I’ll just do a better one! Next week we are doing pry bars!
@Grizzbear939 ай бұрын
People can argue all they want Snap on is top quality with hand tools , and harbor freight will always be great value to me , tools you can break and not feel bad after
@fatjaysgarage9 ай бұрын
The icon stuff is pretty good. Not every tool needs to be designer
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Eric smidt is a crooked individual, and icon isn't no better than many other brands on the market. tekon is actually the best bang for your buck.
@nickdrewing59488 ай бұрын
Anyone saying they're "using the wrench wrong" has probably never worked in a professional capacity on vehicles. I work in a larger shop with nearly 30 other techs and I've seen ICON n Pittsburgh wrenches n ratches bend and break when a coworker has been trying to loosen a bolt. I've also seen Snap-On stuff bite the dust. That being said, I've lost count of the broken lesser-brand tools that have failed around me, and I can count on one hand the number of Snap-On tools that have failed. Snap-On has a lifetime no-questions-asked warranty on all hand tools because their tools are engineered to NOT fail, while ICON n Pittsburgh are limited in their warranty because they KNOW their tools will fail. Both brands can get a job done, but only Snap-On and the other Tool Truck names (Matco, Mac, n Cornwell) will continue to get many more jobs done, and with a better chance of you buying and crying once.
@brendancole51098 ай бұрын
I'm a professional aircraft mechanic, most of our hanger uses icon and pittsburgh tools, especially the old heads. If the tool does ever break we have a hf up the road and they take all handtool replacements without receipt or question. As for matco I am still fighting them to replace my Sockets after the chrome has failed on every one within 6 months of use. I enjoy using snap on and matco but for the most part HF is easier on the wallet, and the warranty all to do the same job.
@CPthetooladdict8 ай бұрын
Since when is icon F.o.d approved?
@502C.r.H7 ай бұрын
Snap-on DOES NOT have a "no questions asked" return policy I've had the most trouble getting their stuff swapped out over the lesser brands
@brendancole51097 ай бұрын
@CPthetooladdict well bud there's no fod if you use the tool correctly. Aircraft maintenance is a generally low torque. At my hangar all impact, and heavy torque Sockets and tools are supplied.
@Tools_and_Guitars9 ай бұрын
*_Snap-on_* since '1920 *Icon* since... no one with tastes really cares.
@joemahoney93189 ай бұрын
Let's be honest snap-on's not worth it unless it's the tools that put the food on your table
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
That's definitely one of the smarter comments and I'm thankful for people like you who get it...I personally don't think buying all snap-on is very smart but some things they have are absolutely perfect and I will not conced to anything less However I work on cars for a living so I need reliable tools.
@louisbertini9 ай бұрын
Smart and simple. Love it.
@ifyoutip9 ай бұрын
Goof had the wrench turned the wrong way. That was side loading it. I wanted to see if it broke or bent easy when loading the beam the proper way. But either way I like my MAC wrenches.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Love my mac wrenches bur your a fool if you think people don't side load a wrench or never actually have never done a lot of wrenching. It's called double wrench
@ifyoutip9 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict well, I suppose some do but would not expect a professional to as most professionals have the proper tools for the job. I have wrenches that actually are kinda like this scenario though. The X beam wrenches.
@alejandroxx139 ай бұрын
I purchased Icon wrenches to start off & upgraded once I noticed the tool rounding off & not the bolt. Now.. I’d honestly prefer the fastener to round off before my tools that I make money with do. So I went with Snap-On & never had that issue again.
@stevenbatty43389 ай бұрын
I may not know a lot about tools, but that is one thicccc boi! Damn ❤
@hoodman4209 ай бұрын
This is just stupid wrenches weren't meant to be used that way. This would be like turning a 2x4 90° and building a house with it. It was never intended to be used that way therefore it doesn't work that way. Thumbs down Don't recommend channel.
@OMENsWork9 ай бұрын
My man, they're testing the material quality, if your wrench breaks easy this way its going to get loose and stretched on the open end and worn out on the closed end which will round up your bolts.
@oktober-vh6gl9 ай бұрын
they were testing the strength of the material, not using the wrenches as wrenches. how did you just completely miss the point like that? how do you say my IQ is lower than 90 without saying...
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
I appreciate intelligent people educating others thank you!!
@Amer_ica9 ай бұрын
I mean if the harbor freight guy did this the results might be the opposite 😂
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Definitely, they all lie
@gregwesterman21159 ай бұрын
My dad always said: If you have to buy a tool, see what brand has lasted the longest in your tool box. At that time, craftsman tools were a pretty fair contender. I bought a crappy plastic tool box at a garage sale for $20. The tools themselves were close to $200. A mixture of snap-on, thorsen, and craftsman.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Best way to buy tools is pre loved!!
@taintedsasquatch3988 ай бұрын
Bought a set of icon metric wrenches to see if they live up to their claims,and they fit standard size hex better than actual metric.
@CPthetooladdict8 ай бұрын
Lmao
@nicks30379 ай бұрын
Yep bought some icon wrenches and they all snapped in half during use.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised. I'm sorry to hear that
@christophermix68459 ай бұрын
I've been using the crap out of my icon reverse able ratchet wrenches no issues at all.
@neilbrown829 ай бұрын
I'll take s*** that never happened for 500 Alex
@nordicpride97089 ай бұрын
Hobo Freight fanboys are so TRIGGERED 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
For real, it's like you stole their last cookie at the lunch table, lmao!!!
@donmige819 ай бұрын
Harbor Freight fan bois about to go and cry them selves to sleep right now 😂😂
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Oh, they already are for sure lol
@noxzeitarts76689 ай бұрын
headed there now
@andrewmartin26509 ай бұрын
Nope. We just use our wrenches the correct way 😂
@donmige819 ай бұрын
@@andrewmartin2650 so I’m assuming you’ve never had to use a second wrench for leverage, old school professional techs understand that the proper way to use a wrench is whatever it takes to get the job done ✅
@ysasis9 ай бұрын
Call me crazy, but the tools are not held at the same level in the press, the pressure point is different, I don't want to say it's 100% the reason but it does make a bit of a difference.
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@csb116769 ай бұрын
I've broken many brands of tools, all have their flaws, all have their weakness. Sometimes the cheap tool is the best for the job because they don't make a tool for the job and you need to modify it. That's worth more than a $95 tool that has only one damn use.
@FSSCasino9 ай бұрын
But i have snap on, Matco, icon, gearwrench, the thing is I will never put that much force on a wrench like that! Right tool for the right job,
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@AndrewSouthern-d2s7 ай бұрын
3 things I love about snap on is wrench,ratchets,and sockets can't beat flex drive
@rondellschuyler70742 ай бұрын
Snap on are good tools, but they just cost to dam much.
@CPthetooladdict2 ай бұрын
Yep so does a ferrari that's why I drive a chevy l o l
@fightthelies43492 ай бұрын
They are both warrantied so if they break like this, which one can you return faster and get back to work? Just walk into HF and your back in business. With snapon you have to wait.
@CPthetooladdict2 ай бұрын
LiFeTiMe WaRrAnTy 🤤
@ZNA_Productions4 ай бұрын
They should rename Icon to "Snap-Off"
@austint11519 ай бұрын
My 8 10 12 1/2 7/16 and 3/8 are snap-on. Ratchets too. Rest are icon because i barely use them. Rest of my kit is the same. If it gets used daily, it's quality. Not wasting money on a 11mm or 15/16" snap-on I'll never use. Icon is great for either enthusiast diy or non daily tools
@catapult1829 ай бұрын
Every time you use a tool it causes ware . Having a quality/professional tool like Snap On you know it’s going to last and not where out so bad that it will start stripping fasteners before it will loosen them. That’s why professional mechanics choose the higher quality tools because of the high usage, the tool sees
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
💯
@Bowhunterohio2 ай бұрын
People will pick what they want. If someone wants to buy snap on then by all means buy them. If they want icon or Gearwrench then buy them. Do what makes you happy and buy what you can afford. It all boils down to what that individual wants.
@micronautseven9 ай бұрын
You know what sucks? Working in a remote location and having a tool fail. I gave the cheap stuff after tool failure happened twice. Lifetime warranty doesn’t help when you have to get the job done. I buy high quality tools now
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@Zamazama99 ай бұрын
Have used all brands over years of experience Can’t fail with snap on… donated all my HB tools and now owns 3 massive snap on tool box Never going back. You can also buy snap on used from retiring mechanics
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Amen!!! Smart man
@Skipdogg159 ай бұрын
I dont have their wrenches but i did get a set of deep and shallow metric impact sockets that i use everyday and they are great. I also bought tekton impact sockets for my garage at home and also great...i have all matco tools at home except for those sockets and i really see no difference
@Sirbuckerton7109 ай бұрын
As long as u don’t rely on tools for a paycheck then harbor freight or even Home Depot with husky stuff is still good for at home. I do autobody for a living and about 90% of my stuff at work is snapon. Quality makes a difference when u use those tools everyday.
@darrenporsch9 ай бұрын
Not surprised that the snap-on was better at all. kind of surprised the icon broke that fast. considering it's supposed to be forged steel should have enough tensile strength to hold up better than that. I'm not a pro and snap-ons out of my price range for a lot of stuff I prefer american-made hand tools so I buy Proto and Williams which are anywhere from a half to a quarter the price of snap-on. Because if I can I'm going to support American made products
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯 great comment!! Great observation!!
@Dolla-Bill9 ай бұрын
As a home joe mechanic that uses my tools a few times a year on our cars. Harbor freight tools are so cheap, get my job done, and if they break I take it in and get a new one for free. If I depended on my tools everyday to earn my living yes high end stuff is more reliable and more accurate
@2wheelsurfer9 ай бұрын
I went to grab a rivet gun, grabbed the cheap one, guy asked why not get something you wont need to buy again. Well sir, cheap one has done 1000+ so far and still works for me, i just cant find it at the moment.
@hooliganandroguefilms2 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with snap on but I get a kick out of the guys who post videos justifying paying over 10 times more for tools that pretty much do the exact same thing in daily use. Not trying to start anything but why do this? It's obvious that snap on is a better quality product...they have a great track record but you can't deny that the icon brand at HF is a great deal at the price point. Not everyone wants to spend multiple thousands on tools when there are good choices dramatically cheaper.
@SouthSideChiTown4 ай бұрын
From what I understand, Snap-on develops and patents their own alloys for each line of tools that they have, wrenches, sockets, hammers, and screwdrivers. All different Alloys and all proprietary to snap on.
@UsLay19 ай бұрын
I inherited a ton of snap on tools. The wrenches are worth the money. Everything else though, I wouldnt buy. The lifetime warranty only applies to hand tools only. So when my floor jack bit the dust i replaced it with a harbor frieght daytona for a fraction of the price.
@oakcliffpride9 ай бұрын
I agree with this man snap on wrenches are superior in quality bar none icon or tekton will never have the same quality I’ve owned and used every brand here and no one compares
@mitchstaff82819 ай бұрын
It's like any other tool. If you use it all the time buy a quality one. If it's something you rarely use buy cheap.
@tbaca6199 ай бұрын
For a get a few projects done are what chinese tools are for. For the professional who makes a living, that's what snap-on is for. I've had the same Cresent set for 15 years and wrenched on a ton of vehicles just fine
@Dan-gj1hz9 ай бұрын
Is Icon overpriced? Yes. Is it terrible? No. Ive used gearwrench and craftsman for years and have sets of Pittsburgh wrenches as my beaters. HF wrenches are cheap but reliable. If you manage to sheer HF wrenches, perhaps you aren’t using the right tools for the job. Only point I agree is that Icon is overpriced, but then again snap-on is insane. Never will buy snap-on.
@natewhitbey46159 ай бұрын
Here’s what I think… if you can afford snap-on comfortably (especially without the weekly payments) then by all means buy snap on… they definitely have some tools that just work better vs the competitor and will withstand the beating they take on a daily basis… however, I am a strong advocate of buying affordable tools. Buying snap-on as a new tech or even someone who’s just starting to have more work roll in after a couple years in the field probably isn’t a good idea… again, some tools may a good option to help with stuck bolts, grabbing onto filters better, etc… but most are a rip off for the guys just getting started out but most snap-on dealers don’t want the new techs to see it that way. They’ll allow young guys to go into debt (especially with the tool boxes) and then the guy can’t afford to make the payments, snap-on man will have to repo the box and then sell it to someone for a lot cheaper depending on the condition of the box. It’s all a shit show waiting to happen for these new guys and I feel like many of them lack the knowledge to see the problems they’re creating.
@iitzDiRTYАй бұрын
If my icon wrench breaks I can run down to harbor freight & replace it 3 times in a day. How long before the snap on man shows up again?
@CPthetooladdictАй бұрын
You must be a gas guzzling guru or something, I swear I only break Snap-on stuff on leap years, but if wasting two hours and a tank of fuel daily is your thing, then Harbor Freight is your jam, buddy!
@iitzDiRTYАй бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict even with wasted time & fuel, comes out being cheaper than putting the snap on man’s kid thru college
@JackJack-ld5eo8 ай бұрын
Harbor Freight, home of the "good enough" tool. I have a 10" brick saw that I bought 15 years ago from harbor freight for $250. I use it weekly, and it still works great. a 10" MK saw cost $1400 back then.
@CPthetooladdict8 ай бұрын
Good enough, it doesn't work for me. I won't accept that in professional life
@brucebruegger20519 ай бұрын
I only use my wrenches occasionally, so I purchase less expensive, if I worked with them everyday, I would purchase top quality
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Right on
@awesomeness71178 ай бұрын
I have drop forged wrenchs, got them for super cheap and yet they are the best set i have ever used
@MCatwar9 ай бұрын
hell, my tekton and ikon tools, even regular pittsburgh or husky tools have held up great in my full time shop use! one place i usually won’t skimp out is power tools, though. i’m all milwaukee, ingersoll rand, or cornwell
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@anthonycarrasco77849 ай бұрын
So would snap on still warranty the tool when it was misused??
@CPthetooladdict9 ай бұрын
Dealer was right there said to do it
@TooljunkieDave5215Ай бұрын
Everyone comparing snap on a d icon. Forgetting that they’re competing for second place 😅 meanwhile MAC is quietly chillin in the corner doing its thing 😎 it’s all subjective but in my opinion MAC is second to none in wrenches.