What Nobody Else Told You About Tandem OLED and M4!

[@jdtransformation]

Optical engineer here reporting in: Quinn, you *nailed* the tandem-OLED description! Thank god you're there to educate all the other KZbinrs reporting on the iPad! ;) Srsly... ur stuff is SO damn good. Thx for what u do!

[@snazzy]

Haha not true but appreciated very much! Always fun to see the true experts here. Thank you!

[@TheNameOfJesus]

He's also clear and concise. I'm not sure if I agree with him 100% of the time, but he does influence me.

[@JohnSmith-op7ls]

I mean, he just read the description that came up in Google

[@Loanshark753]

Apparently Apple is using LG tandem oled displays and will use Samsung tandem oleds in the future. So it is highly likely that the new displays have a micro lens array

[@PeterbFree]

And what do you say about the color accuracy and color rendition of OLED? I note that to date no reference monitors use OLED. To my eye, the OLED iPhones have significantly worse image quality when comparing the same photo on any OLED iPhone vs any LCD device. And all the OLED iPhones have no white point, with a slight change in viewing angle changing the color balance noticeably. And for the record, I have a masters degree in Photography, not that I claim any specialty in color grading, but my eyes picked up these differences immediately when I laid eyes on each generation of “Pro” OLED iPhones

[@GauravPendharkar]

Being from the Ph.D. background, I really appreciate that you have given a reference from a reputed journals (Applied Physics Letter/Organic Electronics etc.). Almost none of the KZbinr reviewing phones and tablets or any device review for that instance have ever given any such authentic reference. A big fan of your videos. Keep up the good work...

[@snazzy]

Thanks so much!!!

[@Melchirobin]

5:45 Never apologize for being too nerdy. That is why I watch your channel even if i watched the entire apple event. I love when you get nerdy.

[@cinebenjamin]

Haha that was my note. 😅

[@Melchirobin]

@@cinebenjamin It was a funny note. I also loved the addition at the end with the Magic Keyboard

[@Hammy16]

Musician and audio engineer here. I’ve been waiting for a larger iPad Air. 11” is a little tight for sheet music, and I could never justify the cost and overkill of getting an iPad Pro just for the larger screen size. The larger screen is also nice for digital mixing. Can’t wait to get mine!!

[@tenorenstrom]

Get an 2018 iPad Pro. Its the best choice for sheet music. Almost as thin and light as the 2024 iPad Pro. But cheaper than iPad Air 13 inch. Last year I replaced my 2018 iPad Pro. With another 2018 iPad Pro. It’s really the best choice for sheet music.

[@Motawa88]

musician here too. Just do it on the Mac bro.

[@nikcampbelltrumpet5306]

​@@Motawa88you can't really put a Mac on a music stand

[@jimmymac2292]

Why not just buy an m2 pro 12.4 inch?

[@snazzy]

I use my 13” for sheet music and it’s fantastic!!

[@GoFastGator]

Glad I wasn’t the only one that was missing the iPad Mini!

[@p82d]

All I wanted was FaceID 🥺

[@GoFastGator]

@@p82d requires at least an M7 processor. 😝

[@bw4593]

Nope, the only iPad I care about, and they have seemingly abandoned it. A slimmed down iPad mini with an Oled screen is the only iPad I’d consider buying, until then my MacBook Air does anything the bigger tablets would better.

[@Mr.Marbles]

As an iphone mini lover, we gotta stay together! Gives us mini stuff,

[@tomjjen]

Yeah. Just make 3 form factors for the iPad Air.

[@GhastlyHunger]

The most exciting part of this event is how previous gens, which are basically as capable as the new iPads, will be going down in price for the general audience. Edit: referring to non-Apple stores and the used market

[@joelmulder]

It seems only by $100 or so

[@TiggerLyOne]

It's not iPhones. Apple will discontinue "previous" gens. The original "ipad" was way over priced to begin with.

[@GhastlyHunger]

I'm referring to other stores and the used market.

[@bazzers]

Might see some amazing deals on the 9th gen while supplies last.

[@HernanSoberon]

wait for the WWDC and then decide if the old models are worth it or not.

[@yeknommonkey]

This is the kind of video that highlights the difference between a soso and a great KZbin channel. The technical knowledge and the personal flair are off the charts. The filming and video editing are super high end too. What a YT masterclass this is. 👏

[@danoindigo2]

Great review. Just wanted to say that for someone like me that normally has to have closed captions on all movies, tv shows, and KZbin videos, you speak clearly enough, enunciate well enough, and sound quality is good enough that I don't need captions. Thank you.

[@snazzy]

Thanks for that!

[@Vanessacatcat]

@@snazzy Agreed! It’s very helpful!

[@houdini9067]

5:40 I love that your channel goes deeper into the technical aspects. One of the reasons I will always watch your reviews (even after watching several other ones)

[@lvseka]

That ending point is very important, yes, it’s the perfect computer for a lot of us (An Architect for example) doesn’t feel limited in many ways. It’s actually better for loads of other work.

[@ParkourBrian]

Tattoo industry here: I use it for 100% of my admin work and my artists use it for 100% of their creative and marketing work. It’s perfect!

[@pedrocavalcante4939]

Illustrator here! No better tool for on-the-go illustration work anywhere than an iPad with Art Studio Pro or Procreate and an Apple Pencil

[@PhilinSaniachen]

Pretty much every med student I know and myself use it in lieu of textbooks for writing notes, watching video lectures and when you need to haul it around with you. There's a lot fo industries where the iPad is just more convenient

[@Regantdarcy]

Some might not be happy, but as an artist, I’m thrilled with this update to the iPad Pros. Bummed that the mini didn’t get an update as well. I like to take a mini with me as a digital sketchbook when traveling too.

[@TalesOfWar]

I'm guessing along with the iPhone mini, they just simply don't sell enough of them to put so much effort in. Ironically I bet they still sell more than other tablet makers sell of their entire line up lol.

[@Regantdarcy]

@SilverJoystix bot account? Lol. Just cause I’m thrilled? 🤔 Mmm okaaaay. Perhaps thrilled is a tad dramatic. But this is the first time in 6 years I am actually tempted to upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro. That’s a long time. These things really hold their usefulness better than most Apple products.

[@kuriaspaul]

4:10 Honor Magic 6 Ultimate was released 2 months ago with a BOE tandem OLED display. So the iPad isnt the first. But the iPad is twice the size diagonally so its still incredibly impressive.

[@dado380]

LG as always patented tandem oled.90% of all automotive displays is made by LG and Meecedes S class has a custom made LG tandem p-oled for years while HP xps is the first with tandem oled in laptops!!

[@nuggyfresh6430]

btw Snazzy this is a fantastic video. The technical explanation on display here is spectacular, 10/10. Best explanation of both the tandem OLED and the M4 that I've seen yet.

[@edcgadgets-de]

For me the iPad Pro replaced my mobile computer many years ago. All I need for mobile work is browsing, mails, watching KZbin/movies. I had the 12.9” iPad Pro since the beginning in 2015, then the 2018 and now the M1. At home I watch mostly on loudspeaker so good quality quad speakers is a must. And I love the mini-LED and 120Hz screen. But in theory the new 13” iPad Air would work fine for me too if I could live without the nice to have features of the pro. I will skip this generation of pro because my M1 is really all I need. Even the 2018 was more than enough.

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

Get a good surround syatem and connect the tablet to it. It makes a huge difference when I'm on the couch.

[@aarohanyt7374]

if you get the air, i think you'll definitely miss pro motion , at least for the first few weeks

[@doso4486]

Please read the fine print in the specs. The air screen is not 13" it is 12.9". Check the specs for yourself.

[@tasosjw]

At last a youtuber who acknowledges that not every ipad costumer is a video editor. ❤

[@BrianMcKee]

Implying every person who wants more out of the software experience at this price point are video editors 🤪 iPads should be optioned with mac os at this point, it's insane they're not.

[@tasosjw]

@@BrianMcKee No they shouldn’t. Having “the option” to choose is ok but don’t ruin my experience because of your persistence to use a tablet with a non touch input UI.

[@DEVDerr]

So Apple basically told us that since they put the m4 chip into the new iPad "Pro" they had a choice to: - make the tablet thinner and keep the current battery life - leave the form factor as it is and gain more battery life ... and somehow they chose the first one

[@DEVDerr]

FOR FREAKING TABLET FOR "PROFFESIONALS" (where the battery life is crucial factor for them) Agh, it's 2015-2019 Mac era over again (but for iPads). Just don't touch the Macbook Pro, since it's a goat as of now

[@DEVDerr]

Also... new iPad Pro is thinner than iPad Air Makes sense XD

[@ruschein]

And that was the right choice! I have a 12.9" M1 iPad Pro and it is clearly too heavy for me and I can only use it comfortably when I rest it on my belly. So hurray for a lighter iPad Pro!!

[@Loanshark753]

The keyboard is lighter as well, since it does not need to be as heavy to counter balance the iPad.

[@87togabito]

My mom wants a larger iPad for watching shows off Netflix, so she only has the pro line to look at. A lighter pro line pretty much would benefit her more than a longer battery life, so there’s that. And if you haven’t realised, most “pro” users don’t buy pros, because they need a pro model. That said, I’m still more than happy using my M1 Pro for work 😂😂. Not upgrading, but just wanted to point out that “professionals” aren’t usually the main user base for pro models

[@MatsueMusic]

PLEASE keep doing these nerdy deep dives. MKBHD covers the high level main stream stuff, we need someone to also go deeper and explain the technical stuff (or what to google to learn more).

[@webluke]

Wow, that's dirty 9:22. They announced the M4 with 10-cores, but only if you pay for the top specs. The RAM difference is also crazy. I get the binning of chips, and the early runs are going to give them crap, but for a $1000 base price computer missing cores and memory is kind of crazy, and not until you spend another $600 is crazy. Ya, Apple rakes in the extra cash with memory and storage but it's dirty hiding the details on the chip.

[@snazzy]

I wouldn't say they're "hiding it" per se, but they definitely don't draw attention to it. It's a bummer. Should be listed and stated more prominently even though most users (even "Pro" users) aren't likely to hit that limitation big-time on an iPad.

[@halami2149]

They announced it saying “up to 10 core cpu” as opposed to flat out “it has 10 core cpu”. The “up to” is a clear indication that you’d have to pay extra somehow to get the non binned chip. It’s been like that with the MacBooks, although they have that on the configurator front and center

[@paul958]

They are always like this, dirty and greedy.

[@irun2sanaxox]

pay too win

[@skyMcWeeds]

Google and Samsung wishing they had the pull that Apple does

[@vibhavrsingh]

i was just looking for the AI compilation.

[@snazzy]

AI 5G AI 5G 5G AI AI AI 5G

[@vibhavrsingh]

@@snazzy Sundar Pichai bracing himself for AI 2.0 on 14 May 😄

[@brimple]

Stroke victim

[@Edgerunner90]

Dr. Ian Cutrss on TechTech Potatos has an AI compilation from the last Intel presentation. it was hilarious

[@TheFeedRocket]

@@snazzy Imagine a drinking game at WWDC, every mention of AI take drink.... you should run a contest for guessing how many times the word AI is used in the Keynote! It's going to be a lot.

[@TinRapper]

I could watch anyone for an Apple update. But no one does it quite like you do. Always excited.

[@karanveersinghdulku]

When u realise that they bumped up the screen size from 10.9' to 11' and 12.9' to 13' . 😅

[@iatia88]

Excited … And educating! 🧐😏😇

[@L0SSES01]

Great video! Love the new highly technical angle you are going with. Those details provides some context that is missing from other Apple channels. Please keep it up!

[@matttypes2695]

Can we talk about how the IPad Air is now thicker and weighs more than the Pro models?

[@tambourine_man]

In Apple’s universe, Air means cheap, Pro means nice. The original meaning has been lost ages ago.

[@HearMeLearn]

@@tambourine_manwell cheaper than pro at least, the cheapest iPad has no moniker

[@oljobo]

Yeah, the Pros are now lighter than air 😊

[@yippiecalle421]

It’s called Air because has more air inside than the pro models

[@Zaidoesstuff]

@@tambourine_manbut the 10th gen is the cheapest

[@pedrocavalcante4939]

Dude, you got a new subscriber and a like just for the last comment on the perspective of the iPad for artists and creators. I'm an Illustrator and since the event I've seen no reviewer even comment on the artist perspective. Mac OS would nice and all, but it makes no difference to most artists that simply wanna use the iPad as what it is for us: the best tool for on-the-go quality illustration work currently on the market.

[@AaronMcFarland]

I have a five year old 2018 11 inch iPad Pro. I bought a 12.9 inch M1 iPad Pro, strictly for the better display. I immediately ordered the new one for my replacement 11, just for the display alone.

[@Yuganshankar]

was waiting for your video

[@snazzy]

Thank you!

[@kurikuraconkuritas]

excuse me... the few artists that still use wacom pens? literally wacom is industry standard, the vast majority of artists still use wacoms. ipad is not the standard yet

[@tai6188]

Especially after they replaced their own artists with AI, they’re definitely industry standard

[@TeslaFlex]

I ordered an 11” iPad Pro to replace my 2018 12.9” Pro 😁 It’ll be my new short form editing beast

[@espaciobarra]

If there is a takedown of today's keynote for me is that screens for the future iPhones are gonna be sick as hell. Can't wait to see the new iPad Pro in person. ¡Tremendo video como siempre, Quinn!

[@metamon2704]

Would be great with an OS that could actually make it useful.

[@NikolasStow]

Last fall I upgraded from and Air to the M2 12.9 Pro because I wanted something bigger to read comics on. The new 13” Air would have been great, but now the M2 pros are probably gonna have some great deals for anyone wanting something with more power and a better display.

[@rileyhance318]

The new air is just the old pro but with less features

[@doso4486]

Please read the fine print in the specs. The air screen is not 13" it is 12.9". Check the specs for yourself.

[@rileyhance318]

@@doso4486 its name is "IPad Air 13 inch" though.

[@RunnersZehai]

I think snazzy labs is easily the best tech review blog out here...

[@57z]

I love love the level of nerd you share with the world. Your research skills are excellent as is your attention to detail. I wish more channels had your insight. The only bummer is when the video ends. I also appreciate your no holds barred approach…. Been subscribers since you took apart the iMac Pro years, and visited the Apple Store, years ago and will continue to be a loyal subscriber and tell people about your channel . Keep it up, dude, and team.

[@snazzy]

Thank you!

[@profosist]

When they compared to the iPod I had hope for a split second that the iPod was coming back!

[@PrograError]

that would take Jobs to come back.

[@basdfgwe]

Just wandering why they just don't show the iPad in their most common use case... - watching yt/Netflix - browsing web/Facebook etc...

[@kaylakaymorgan]

you mean *your* most common use case

[@rogerward7060]

thank you for going over the memory speed/cpu choice aspects of the breakdown. I know a lot of people review based on power/battery/something else, but you help to uncover something that others may not see! Thank you.

[@wasir3703]

This was the most thorough and technical breakdown of a simple keynote that I ever saw. Makes me proud to be your subscriber.

[@snazzy]

And I’m proud to have you as one. Thanks!!

[@smc2232]

Best commentary of the event thus far for me

[@robertbryanlitao347]

Is there a calculator app though?

[@NizarElZarif]

probably WWDC

[@jaw2112]

No

[@BrentChua87]

Man, so glad KZbin suggested me your channel. You’re the coolest and funniest tech nerd channel out there! Subscribed!

[@hunterbsmith]

What a great video and breakdown Quinn! If Apple can step it up with iPadOS 18, I’m buying one!

[@teemuve]

Hot take: I take iPad as a computer when it has multi-user OS

[@snazzy]

It really should have one-especially considering how often kids use them.

[@joeykeilholz925]

100%

[@bozhidarmihaylov]

There is a “Shared iPad” option..check it out. Hope you don’t need to “Open a School” to use it..Couple of tools needed for management ;)

[@BulllRush]

Coldest take I’ve ever heard. Real computers are for more than one person

[@sandyclawzz]

It will also boost sales of the larger spaced models. More users, more storage needed.

[@joelmulder]

The lack of the second camera on the Pro is such a shame. It means no spatial video, which really sucks.

[@ruschein]

Who in their right mind would use a heavy and bulky device like an iPad for recording a video??

[@CityScapesYT]

@@ruscheinMoms

[@joelmulder]

@@ruschein I can think of two sorts of people who’d do that. #1 is the same people who already shoot Spatial Video with their actual AVP. Those people are insane, but hey, if they wanna bring their AVP to a mountain top to shoot in Spatial Video, more power to them. They’re probably the same people who were already bring their iPad to do regular filming. The other group is people like me, who want to be able to shoot spatial video but don’t want an iPhone Pro because they just don’t use their phones enough to justify the price of a Pro, or refuse to buy a new iPhone because I will keep my 13 Mini ‘till it’s dying breath. I admit, that’s a pretty niche group of people. But wouldn’t you expect Apple’s impressive new mobile device to be able to shoot its newest video format? Especially when the M2 was already capable of doing it (just not officially supported). A new and more expensive piece of tech shouldn’t be taking steps backwards.

[@einerus]

@@ruscheiniPad mini is great for recording and photos. Bigger screen makes huge difference.

[@ruschein]

@@joelmulder From what I understand, the spacial separation on an iPhone Pro's cameras is so small that spatial videos are not nearly as impressive as ones taken w/ the AVP. I would have expected to be the same for a dual-camera iPad.

[@KwingF]

First 15 seconds of this video are gold.

[@eduard6450]

It is not the first Tandem Oled display on the market. Honor uses it on their Magic 6 RSR which was launched like a month ago.

[@wojciechbancer]

I'm hoping that Apple will show new 32" monitor with the same OLED technology :) The old 32" Pro Display XDR is now pretty old.

[@TheFeedRocket]

With ProMotion too, that would be well worth the gazillion dollars it will cost, I can't wait for that to come to the iMac or the 32" Really want that!

[@CraigCruden]

The M3 was stated to be a 20% processing power improvement over the M2, the M4 is stated to be 50% improvement... which by simple math means they are actually claiming the M4 is suppose to be a 25% improvement (M3 = 1.2 x M2 and M4 = 1.5 x M2 therefore M2 = M3 / 1.2 and then M4 = 1.5 x (M3 / 1.2) = 1.25 x M3... or 25% improvement.

[@TalesOfWar]

Which is still rather impressive. It's pretty rare to see such big jumps from one gen to the next these days in the processing world. Intel were shoving out 5-15% at best "improvements" for years before AMD became competitive again and forced them to care. They've only really been getting better performance in more recent years by just throwing more power at the problem too. Look how crazy hot the "14th" gen stuff gets and how much juice is gobbles.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Well, don't forget the extra cores, they are just efficiency cores, but it's still counts in the performance, don't make the same mistake like Snapdragon X Elite hypers do, they are compare the 12p core against 4p+4e cores, and they are happy.. is that really a big success if 12 adults are stroger like 4 adults and 4 childrens..? So always keep your eye on the cores amount difference too, and M4 got 2 extra cores, im not saying it's not impressive, it's just not a 25% jump (btw at this level of technology, even the yearly 10-15% is a success)

[@jamieknight326]

I find your analysis extremely useful and insightful. Thanks for sharing these videos. They are brilliant.

[@MaisistkeinGemuese]

I would love to see sideloading so I can use it as a proper PC as well. This would leave all the beloved functions for current iPad users and widen the market for the it's not a real PC users - like me.

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

We've been asking for this since the OG iPad. Geck, thry could've put MacOS on rhe Air2 from 10 years ago, but they choose not to.

[@manaphyex3964]

If the iPad Pro 2024 uses MacOS, I will never buy a MacBook again. The iPad may be better except for battery life and interfaces. It is more portable, has an OLED touch screen, a rear camera, and a detachable keyboard.

[@snazzy]

It will not, unfortunately for you.

[@The_Wicked_Wookie]

Would be a neat project to hackintosh mac-os onto m1 and up iPads

[@spencercarruth9706]

@@The_Wicked_Wookie That's never going to happen, seeing as you can't access the bootloader or anything else dealing with the operating system on iOS devices.

[@bazzers]

Although you can play pretend with a Mac on the network and extended display.

[@Dwilsonmusic145]

Not to mention is available with cellular so you’re always connected

[@d.wolfin152]

When did we rename infomercials as keynotes

[@snazzy]

When were we under the allusion that keynotes weren’t always informericals?

[@verlinswarey507]

I really appreciate you giving this great device a fair,unbiased review. So many big tech tubers love to hate on the iPad. They seem to be withholding praise untill the iPad becomes a Mac replacement. THE IPAD IS NOT A REPLACEMENT DEVICE FOR ANYTHING!! It’s its own thing,you freakin maroons!

[@AlonAbraham1]

You should give more examples like the tandem OLED. Really great value for the video and us

[@bruhgamerwolf7936]

Can’t imagine the cost to replace those new displays…

[@snazzy]

Yeah, don't break it lol

[@gag_singh]

@@snazzy 4:13 Actually the first comercially available phone with tandem Oled is Honor Magic 6 Ultimate and RSR. 9to5google covered it a while ago.

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

The biggest thing that happened today, other than the price reduction of the 10th gen iPad and release of the M4 chip (although it’s not needed in an iPad) is the eradication of the thorn-in-the-flesh, the 9th gen iPad.

[@somebuilds]

But I like the 9th gen. It had a headphone jack

[@skyMcWeeds]

The pandemic tablet 🤣 9th gen ipad

[@TalesOfWar]

Don't conflate you not having the need for the power the M4 chip offers with nobody needing it. You can be certain many people will push that thing to its limits with their workflows.

[@DoodleDan]

​@@TalesOfWarnah they won't, it's just "too powerful". Maybe in 10 years we will have software on the iPad that requires such power, but for now m1 is oddly enough

[@HeathWright]

6:45 A14 Bionic debut in the iPad Air before iPhone 12 so its not the first the iPad got a new silicon before other products.

[@joelediger1728]

I just bought the iPad Pro M2 a month ago and I'm not even mad. Thx for the vid Quinn!

[@TheFatherOfGod87]

Must suck …

[@UnDark1]

You’re probably still in the return window

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Great video, my friend!

[@snazzy]

Thanks dude! Very excited to see your benchmarks for M4!!

[@JohnSmith-op7ls]

Artists, musicians, 3-D molders… so, like maybe 1% of the potential market

[@ivovass195]

Finally someone to actually explain this double stacking oled stuff, thank you. And great job giving us the down to earth, non fanboy, not hyped specs overview and highlighting the possible performance gap of the lower storage version, aka usual apple shenanigans

[@XiaoxiaoYuyu-ug3gy]

can i drop files with usb now and not itune?

[@user-zj7ks6pu2z]

BTW, Apple removed 5g millimeter wave on cellular models of iPad Pro. 😂

[@snazzy]

On the one hand, when would I use that? On the other hand, why? So dumb lol

[@MrDragonorp]

​@@snazzy simple cutting cost ad much as possible while having enough features to drive people to buy in bulk. The 5g millimeter was needed to make it stand out to the m1 device. Now they have the oled screen so they can cut cost. The same with thinning the device. Just cost cutting.

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

“Biggest day for the iPad since the original iPad“. What a meme. I won’t be able to take apples marketing team seriously anymore if this is what they consider a big day. 50% faster chip in already overpowered and underutilized machine? No thanks, how about battery life, battery life, battery life. Oh, and did I mention battery life? Then there’s software, Software, OLED screen, and SOFTWARE. In case you’re wondering, yes, I am butt hurt because none of the accessories for my iPad Pro M2 will work on this new one. I just bought my M2 in July.

[@das.gegenmittel]

R u really saying this? Its apple, its amazing, mind bending and revolutionary. Its Apple Marketing the Sh*t out of you.

[@perkulant4629]

Anymore? It’s been a meme for a long time time now.

[@TheLastElderDragon]

​@@das.gegenmittel what revolutionary? There is nothing revolutionary apple has done in ages that can be considered revolutionary

[@PvtAnonymous]

Apple marketing: "What's a computer?" Me: "certainly not the thing that runs iPadOS, that's for sure."

[@tobiasjennerjahn8659]

The double layer oled is super exciting. My ipad works perfectly fine, so I'm not going to buy a new one just because of that, but it's very cool to see the progress in high end display tech continue. I really really hope they figured out a way to properly cool both of those oled layers, otherwise we might see a much shorter lifespan for those compared to older ipads. And replacing the screen will probably be insanely expensive.

[@DanLetts97]

You should call Apple. They probably weren’t smart enough to think about that, good thing you were.

[@tobiasjennerjahn8659]

@@DanLetts97 Ah yes, because apple has never ever released products that had any kind of thermal issues whatsoever. They're way too smart for that.

[@Sidattack1]

Can I tell you something bro, I've been watching your videos since the "Klipsch Image S4" review. I followed your mission trip and eagerly awaited when Jon would read your letters updating the channel. You have come so far dude. I can't believe I'm still watching after all this time. A real legend of Tech KZbin - sorry KZbin (period).

[@snazzy]

Wow that is a LONG time! Thank you for your years of support!

[@user-ih2jq8lx8s]

No Dynamic Island tho??

[@snazzy]

why tho-it has bezels to hold on to.

[@joeykeilholz925]

You want them to cut a hole out of the display?

[@joelmulder]

Why would you want that when there’s a perfectly good bezel to put the cameras in?

[@dominicus9891]

I think apple needs to take a hint from the late 90s, when Steve Jobs first returned, and simplified the product line: He made it into a 4-quadrant grid: Consumer desktop, consumer laptop, pro desktop, and pro laptop. Perhaps the ipad needs to be in a similar(ish) pattern, my idea being: Consumer medium-size (air 11", but renamed to just "iPad"), consumer small (Current iPad mini), pro medium-size (11" iPad Pro), and pro large (13" Pro). I wonder what other people think of this idea.

[@TalesOfWar]

Jobs simplified the line up because... they were literally days away from being bankrupt. They couldn't afford the big product web so they killed everything but those 4 basic things. Apple don't have that problem now. Their market cap is $2.8trillion, they have $162billion in cash on hand. They make more in profit in a quarter than most companies make in revenue in a year, or several. The times they have a-changed, and now they can offer a much broader range of SKU's for a wider range of markets and needs, including being super niche with things like the Vision Pro.

[@benmitchinson9831]

Only channel that talks about 3nm vs 5nm, thanks for the details around tandem oled! would be cool to see on an iphone pro sometime soon

[@spyharpy]

You just helped me decide which iPad Pro 11” to buy to replace my 10.5” from 2018. I bought a new M2 iPad Pro 11” w/512GB today. I want a thicker iPad as it feels more better in hand for me. Ditching the second camera on the M4 leaves many wondering. OLED is new to iPad and would rather wait until it’s proven on this platform. I’m just fine with my decision to buy the M2.

[@atkhodier]

No matter what iPad OS will ruin it so who cares about the pro. Tbh the iPad Pro 13 witn pencil pro and pro keyboard case will cost near a 14 inch m3 pro MacBook Pro lmao. Yeah just get a laptop

[@snazzy]

*for you*

[@TropicalCyc]

ipados is fine.

[@perkulant4629]

Agreed, as usual Apple will software limit great hardware.

[@atkhodier]

@@snazzy I mean yeah no shi but ultimately these won’t boost iPad sales imo and I agree with the sentiments of mkbhd and many others that this is just another spec bump iPad and overall…it’s still an iPad.

[@atkhodier]

@@snazzy it’s like a huge meme amongst gen z that iPads are cool in the first week but ultimately never see use and become dust collectors. Also the upgrade cycle is like 6 years plus for the average person lol nobody upgrades these things ever especially gen x users…they’re still on that 9.7 inch ipad grind and to apples credit those machines work amazing still for entertainment and web browsing. They do 99 percent of what any new iPad does. I don’t think price laddering has been good for the iPad. That 9th gen base model iPad does the best for a reason the last 3 years.

[@Treviath]

Can you explain how the light emitted by the lower layer passes through the top layer? You seem to be the youtuber with the most knowledgeable video out right now on the subject.

[@sinisalomikko]

Ipad is just perfect portable art tablet for digital artists. Curious to try the nano textured screen if it gives similar ”paperlike” feel than wacom cintiq etched glass

[@TheNovus7]

as far as i know the nano textured screen is only for better usability outdoors(less reflective) and there should be no difference when using the pencil

[@douglaswilliams9779]

Most thorough review so far, great breakdown! Leaving this comment on my iPad, really have tried so hard to use it in place of a laptop or pc for far too long.

[@TayGuy]

As a videophile and OLED lover. It was nice to get a technical deep dive on the display innovations in the new tandem OLEDs. Very interesting!

[@increiblepelotudo]

",,,Stroke Victim...", that was felt

[@jasondads9509]

So may others seem to not mention the tandem OLED enough, it sounds incredible. In a few years i may upgrade from my m1 ipad pro

[@josiahk5024]

I like your in depth analysis!!!!! ❤

[@Studio_4to1]

The only review I was waiting for. Thanks for this channel, Quinn. It is a mandatory watch. Every time.

[@siuolbourles]

You’re my source for nerdy detailed Apple products specs, thx !

[@chrisjohnston964]

Another great video! Your enthusiasm about tech and sense of humour is refreshing. You always present a LOT of technical information in a fun way, keep up the great work!

[@hashemhashem1983]

I am someone who needs to switch from iPad Air 2. So definitely I will need to get the accessories that will support the new device. I have seen multiple times on the Internet people requesting a new pencil/stylus for the iPad, now they are sad because they cannot use the previous version. Another thing, if you are not going to use all the bells and whistles from the Pencil pro, you can get the usb-c version as a cheaper option. Here’s the thing, and most of us know this, you don’t need to upgrade your device every year or 2, let it live with you unless you need the actual feature

[@harshithmonu1092]

Best part of this video is nerdyyyyy papers and explanation

[@KitelessRex]

Another great video Quinn. I;m sticking with my 6th Gen Mini. I love it and mainly use it for media consumption and sometimes text chatting, oh and the occasional Face Time call. I got the Mini the day it came out and expect to get many more years of use out of it. Boring I know.

[@QuintenKilborn]

Thank you for your in-depth and at the same time easily digestible videos. Really helps us sort through it all!

[@steveoverstreet5635]

Thanks for a super-great intro to these new IPads. This is the best and most objective breakdown review I’ve heard so far. Now for an example of who likes the new iPad Pro and what they intend to do with it, I suggest checking out the latest Petapixel podcast here on KZbin. The title is something like “Apple is now a camera company.” One of the reviewers loves Mac and does a lot of video shooting and editing (more than KZbin.) the other one hates Mac and owns a monster microsoft laptop. Yet both of them love IPad and use it in their workflows. The review of the new Final Cut is what you need to pay attention to.

[@micleeso]

Haptic feedback on the pencil is interesting, looking forward to your review on it. I would have been more impressed if the blunt end was an eraser. I do have a question for people with the 16GB models, Compared with 8GB models does the reload/refresh of apps occur when multi-tasking between apps? I assume this happens because the machine needs to cache memory to disk due to the limit of 8GB. Any direction to an explanation why iPads reload content while switching apps would be appreciated.

[@terribletimes902]

This iPad seriously makes the previous one way more appealing as an upgrade for a 2018 or 2020 model. Benefits of going M2 over M4 - You get the faster storage on the base model - You don’t lose a camera - You don’t have to buy a new Pencil or Magic Keyboard One of the benefits of the M4 model, which is obviously the performance, is already compromised by the binned chip on the base model. Is a binned M4 even that much better than a full M2?

[@DRMadeIt]

I have an m1 studio max. The only thing I use it for is Lightroom, sketchup and occasional photoshop. Everything else I do on my phone. I was torn between the 13” iPad and a MacBook. I chose the iPad. Only time will tell if I made the right decision

[@webig1805]

Nobody else (other reviewers) seem to even mention or raise concerns about the burn in that you might encounter with the long term use of OLED screens but it's something I am really worried about. Like for example if you are an artist using the same drawing app daily with the UI constantly showing on your screen that would possibly leave a mark and damage your screen overtime

[@snazzy]

Almost certainly not.

[@nidusyaldabaoth2428]

Finally, a tech reviewer that doesn’t want to put macOS on everything, and appreciates that the iPad is what it needs to be for many artists.

[@NtGism]

Everyone puts out these videos in launches (especially Apple launches) but damn, even if Quinn's take a bit longer to be out sometimes, I feel like they are ALWAYS the most informative. The nerdiest, sure, but we follow tech news, we're bound to be a bit nerdy ourselves as audience. Much appreciate your effort guys.

[@HighYield]

I love how technical you get, learned a lot about OLED technology. One comment on N3B: Intel has also booked N3B volume at TSMC and afaik Lunar Lake will use N3B, so Apple isn't the only company.

[@haniatra9620]

The best KZbin channel covering macs

[@ili.qfiddy]

That “stay snazzy” smile at the end had me smiling back

[@arunantony3207]

Great videos Quinn. But a fact update, this is not the first commercially available tandem-OLED. Huawei new Porsche design RSR (something like that) launched it first technically and is available to buy before the iPad

[@jonathanlennard2472]

Snazzy always has the best explanations

[@andrewberg9611]

100% came here two see the clickbait that I’m sure every one else was saying about the iPad, only to find a deep dive that no one else was talking about. Great vid have subbed

[@snazzy]

Thanks and welcome.

[@tracybeeeee]

Never watched a video. Never seen your face. But 6am? Okay. Subbed.

[@ThatTimeTheThingHappened]

It’s been blowing my mind how many people don’t understand the awesomeness of the OLED screen. I think we will see a lot of people change their tune when they get their hands on them and see it for themselves

[@volvo09]

The display is the coolest part of this release. Makes me excited for what could come for OLED displays! The rest, it's just another tablet that got thinner, lighter, etc... I want the display!

[@florents.27]

Why nobody talking about battery life anymore. Is it good or not?

[@johnmyviews3761]

Apple claims 10 hours [min settings?] as with older iPads so not good