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[@snazzy]

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[@XSTAYUPX]

Did you torture your wife to videotape you networking? You got a keeper.

[@bostok6]

looks like Arc browser

[@CotyTernes]

How about Vivaldi? Oh wait this is an advertisement lol.

[@MistahHeffo]

You told a LIE! Chrome/Chromium IS Webkit!!

[@ChristakyMe]

@@MistahHeffo I had to look this one up. Google once used Webkit for their browsers but abandoned it in 2013 in favor of their own version which was heavily influenced by Webkit.

[@Col_Crunch]

Note about MoCA: While it is backwards compatible, the entire MoCA network will work at the speed of the slowest adapter on the network. So if you have a mix of 2.0 and 2.5 devices, the MoCA network will work on 2.0 speeds.

[@Nael000]

Just like ram sticks

[@mlies37]

I invested heavily into powerline stuff last month. It was a mistake. It blows. Thanks for spreading the word about that!

[@semi-senioritis]

It works for me because my home's cabling isn't that bad, the distance isn't too big and i can only get 200mbps from my isp anyways. So i get a decent connection i wouldn't otherwise be able to get without laying cables.

[@jameljami11]

Yea, powerline is super case by case, it definitely worked wonders for me back when I was in high school with the router being across from the house

[@JeffGeerling]

I like the quarter-round hack the best; never thought of pulling up a wood strip and replacing with that track! Great for some wood floor rooms where you can't tuck the cable under the trim. The inside turns are a little tight (especially for Cat6A or better), but as long as you don't have too many of those bends... should be okay.

[@kameshganeshan2894]

Get a flat Cat cable. You are sorted

[@AldoInza]

Would optical work?

[@ChristmasTvGames]

oh a JeffGeerling Comment

[@JeffGeerling]

@@ChristmasTvGames It's an older comment, sir, but it checks out!

[@ChristmasTvGames]

@@JeffGeerling you must've liked the video

[@TheUnderMasked]

Last time I was this early he still was baby faced

[@LuigiVN]

on a segway about to do missionary work lol

[@philippemiller4740]

I really like how you take the time to explain and present the problem at the beginning of your videos. Really makes the difference to get me hooked. Compared to the one liners most channels do to explain or present the problem.

[@snazzy]

Thanks!!

[@EthicalAllele]

@@snazzy I liked that you went out of your way to present the issues with powerline adapters by showing us their performance in the best case scenario. You could've just said "powerline adapters are slow," but you instead presented it in a way where we can really understand how slow it is.

[@semi-senioritis]

@@EthicalAllele Should have added though that the powerline adapters need to go straight into the wall for the best performance, not in splitters.

[@dankspain]

I believe there is now the option of placing a tiny naked fiber optic cable next to the edges of doors and underneath them that makes retrofitting a wired connection possible and barely visible. I believe Movistar was testing it for consumers in Spain to avoid drilling holes and ugly cables.

[@anthonydiiorio]

It's called Corning Clear Track Fiber

[@snazzy]

Corning Clear Track is super cool, but it's still a pretty intensive installation and you'll need to punch through walls any time you need to leave a room. You also need all of the fiber termination tools which don't come cheap! Very cool tech indeed, but not quite within the DIY scope of this video.

[@dankspain]

@@snazzy Yeah definitely not a cheap solution if you need to buy the tools. Thanks for the info and the video of course ;)

[@bookofdaveandsteve]

This exchange was super wholesome and heartwarming 🙌🌈🌟

[@sarah1202]

I have similar setup like that. Fiber hidden in corner of the room. 10G between all switch with no latency and discrete usualy ;)

[@erinwiebe7026]

Thank you for this! I live in a condo, an older concrete building where WiFi signals are easily absorbed. I initially bought a WiFi Extender to use with my Asus router, and while it 'worked', it never boosted the signal to something I was happy with. The condo has coax cabling throughout, and after watching your video, I immediately bought the gocoax starter kit with 2 nodes. With the MoCA setup, I'm now able to run ethernet to areas of my home I wasn't able to before and the speed increase is dramatic. I repurposed the WiFi Extender to work as a wired Access Point and my WiFi coverage & speed now makes full use of my internet connection. A fantastic solution all around!

[@mojajojajo]

Who’s paying $10 per month for a browser?

[@WilliamNeacy]

The kind of people that don't know what $10 is.

[@anthonybenjamin4311]

People who want privacy and don't want their data in the hands of big companies

[@KalphosZeromar]

​@@anthonybenjamin4311there are open source browsers for that dude

[@Mad_Snow]

If it’s free you are the product… but I agree with you

[@mojajojajo]

@@Mad_Snow why do you think they won’t be collecting your data either ways? Also, what’s so valuable about your telemetry data?

[@techexamined]

I’ve been looking at MOCA since I setup my desk upstairs.. love your clear and concise setup for it. Going to setup my WiFi with this too.. awesome video

[@snazzy]

Thanks, Mike! Hope all is well. 👊

[@blakelarson93]

I use MOCA for an upstairs home office. Works perfect.

[@chimastudios]

Easily one of the most captivating hosts on any tech channel. Love your channel!

[@snazzy]

Wow, thank you!

[@drawer111]

2 notes about MoCA: 1. If you use a splitter, make sure you get one that supports the frequency range that your MoCA adapters work at. 2. Some providers (DirectTV is one) operate in the normal frequency range of MoCA and have their own MoCA "equivalent" requiring different equipment.

[@malrofo]

Also time warner cable uses moca to pass video for whole house dvr

[@kalmtraveler]

TIL DirecTV still exists in mid 2023. Bravo good sir.

[@MrSchimpf]

And the splitter used in the video is an absolute no-no...put good money into one that's high quality, along with quad-shield RG6 cable, not just the same cheap cables you bought in the analog age. It's not 1979 any longer, and why anyone still sells those low-quality Menards special tin splitters is beyond me.

[@fitybux4664]

3. WTF how does your cable operator not say "please don't spew your garbage signal on our line". (Especially if there aren't filters. And even if there are filters, they're not magically 100% effective.)

[@choahjinhuay]

The biggest downside to MOCA is the price. Adapters start in the $100range. Do they have proprietary information? I don’t know why else they are so expensive.

[@cyphenkore]

I have been using MOCA in my home network for about the last 6 months. It is as close to a wired ethernet solution as one can get without being Ethernet. It is fast and stable and that minor latency hit is negligible to the point of being imperceptible. I run VMs directly off my NAS with near zero impact to performance. I'll be watching for the MOCA 3 devices. I don't need 10GB to the internet but I'd love it for my home lab and server / NAS devices.

[@ThisIsTechToday]

Ha! I was just looking into this and found the same solution. Glad to have the Quinn approved method.

[@snazzy]

Haha smart man. Good to see you!

[@daniel19831123]

After browsing so many videos to try to find out more on powerline vs coax, I came across your video. So many other videos are done by people that doesn’t even know how to properly compare speed and don’t even know what good internet speed is. Thank you for hosting such informative video with such accuracy!

[@illstateofmind]

Some MOCA adapters are plug and play. Some also have bujlt in splitters for cable boxes, etc. Great video!

[@jaysonwilliamson970]

Modernist Cuisine at Home on the shelf. Vitamin blender. Thermador microwave. Nice. Quinn seems to appreciate quality in all aspects of his life, not just in high tech stuff.

[@snazzy]

I'm a kitchen snob, for sure.

[@RandomGreymane]

Also for hiding cable in cracks I recommend a window screen spline installation tool. It looks like a handle with rollers at each end. One has a groove in it. Use that to just roll the cable under the baseboard trim or anywhere you need it to go.

[@janves]

Great Video! I watched it back when it was released and bought 3 MoCa Devices. It was very flawless! Now that I got fiber I directly bought a fourth one. Thanks a lot!

[@jurgenmichiels]

So, I never ever watch the inline ads, unless it from Quin, and I'm so glad I did because I just start using SigmaOS. I was always looking for a combination of Safari and Chrome so thanks! And even learned a thing of two, didn’t know about Moca. So good job Quin!!

[@ben.childers]

This is the first time I’ve seen a sponsor spot that I’m actually interested in. Quinn, would you do a deep-dive on SigmaOS and it’s features? Looks dope, I’ll be trying it out.

[@alvallac2171]

*its (possessive) it's = contraction of "it is" or "it has" *dope. I'll (to fix your comma splice run-on)

[@tedsanft7420]

MoCA works great, I have the gocoax 2.5 for my Eero’s. The only big caveat is if you have Directv (Why?!?!), MoCA devices interfere with the satélite signal. (Best option is cut the cord and get rid of Directv, but if you must have it there are slower adaptors (non-MoCA) that work with Directv)

[@JOFEGUBA]

I pay youtube premium just to get a 3min ad lol ☠

[@MrAwesomeaditya]

Get revanced, if using on pc get sponsorblock

[@MrAwesomeaditya]

Use sponsorblock

[@uss-dh7909]

Rip, brave and sponsorblock like others mentioned is where its at. SB bros where you at? I've skipped 12,975 segments ( 3d 22h 9.9 minutes). :D

[@mhaustria]

Great stuff, I did not know that one. I just had to do a similar task, but decided to go for home fibre. These tiny glass fibre "cables" are very easy to install, because they are super thin. You can pull them through your existing power lines or just underneath your carpet. I pulled a 40 Meter cable from the first flor down to my studio and gigabit works great, also the latency is super quick.

[@MickelMart]

This is what I needed! I just moved to a two story house and my office is upstairs. I get decent fiber speeds on the eero, but I really want a hardwired connection to make the most out of my 2 Gig speeds. Since there is already coax in every room, this is a great solution! Thanks!

[@colororb4105]

I'm about to rent a newly constructed house (So new that I'm moving in the same week construction finishes). For some reason, the landlord decided to wire the house with CoAx but not Ethernet 🤔⁉️ Glad to learn about this!

[@SwissPGO]

Coax coming back - I remember building 10BASE5 COAX ethernet networks as a graduate student maybe 35 years ago and now throughout can be increased 3 orders of magnitude: WOW.

[@patricknelson]

Awesome video, going to be great for folks who don't realize MoCA is a thing! FWIW (as you noted, but to reiterate), MoCA goes up to 2.5Gbps, so if you're doing a "10 gigabit" retrofit, the max throughput once it hits MoCA will be capped at that 2.5Gbps speed, even if the rest of your ethernet is 10Gbps capable. I do have it on my LAN since my house is really big and I use it for a few spots in my house where I don't have ethernet and the WiFi signal is 💩. So far it has been amazing and I was thrilled to realize I had that option; I had no clue it existed.

[@vanCaldenborgh]

If you really need to use your power line for Ethernet, I advice to use the brand Devolo instead of TP-Link. Also just acceptable as temporary solution, because still slower, but much more stability.

[@snazzy]

A good suggestion! I'll throw a link in the description.

[@damiendye6623]

There all the same chipset so nothing more than firmware which is changeable

[@paulbeaucuse2092]

@@damiendye6623 Well, electronics are more than chipset and firmware. I am not pretending to know what Devolo does differently, but I think, it is partly comparable with DA and AD converters: exactly the same logic, but different signal quality and error rate. It has its price though, everybody has to decide how important network stability is.

[@damiendye6623]

@@paulbeaucuse2092 lol right so your one of those people that think more expensive==better. So tell me if chips and firmware don't make up the product what exactly does ?

[@paulbeaucuse2092]

@@damiendye6623 No, I don't think expensive is better and please read my comment again.

[@TheRussellStover]

14:25 OMG FLUFFY KITTY!!!! What a good-looking cat! 😍😍

[@dandelfuoco171]

Recently, I’ve been deployed to work remotely for my company and my router is way too far to have a viable ethernet connection recently I was looking at getting a mocha adapter, but it was kind of underwhelmed by how few videos there are on it. I’m thankful to see you made one :)

[@HPad2]

8:20 That splitter is fine for MOCA, BUT thats a big no no if you have cable service/TV/Internet. If its "gold" throw it out or from any big box store.

[@VexillariusMusicEDM]

MoCA saved my basement. The family room was part of an addition to the house in the 80's and behind concrete... That's where I have my desktop PC and Xbox. I needed a hardwire connection and MoCA made it possible!

[@WyattUTFT]

I used MoCA for years and I can attest to it being no compromise. It was excellent and never had any hiccups. After initial setup I don't think I ever touched it again until I moved out.

[@markbooth3066]

Powerline is essentially Wifi without the aerial, where your mains wiring is used as a wave guide to vaguely constrain that wifi signal. It even runs on the same 2.4GHz and 5GHz unlicensed radio frequency bands. We used to run a powerline network when we were renting and got around the same performance with our Homeplug (85Mbps) and AV200 kit as this video shows with AV2000 kit. I'd always assumed the problem with Powerline was that it wasn't keeping up with the latest innovations in wifi, but it looks like even with those innovations, home wiring isn't often able to take advantage.

[@arranmc182]

FYI Most people are using powerline adapters use them wrong and end up with slower speeds than they should, when using powerline adapters when ever you plug them in resync them together so they can work out the fastest speeds as if you dont they will probably be running in the default out of the box state which could be reducing the speed you get, as most powerline adapters come defaulted to a slower link speed for reliability by resyncing them together they will then try to handshake for the fastest speed it can handle on your power cables in the wall, iv seen people complain about slow speeds then iv done a resync for them and boom faster speeds, remember most powerline adapters are defaulted to normally the slowest speeds available to them for maximum reliability not maximum speed so always resync them every time you have to unplug any of them and adding a new powerline to existing ones with out doing so can slow them all down to default speeds.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I didn't know MOCA had advanced that much. This is going to be a great tool for those with larger homes.

[@draggonhedd]

i use 2.5gbit MOCA in my rental unit to network mine and my partner's computer to my gigabit network in the basement. Works GREAT. mine required absolutely zero setup.

[@flyguy8791]

Excellent overview of these options! I'm quite partial to MoCA for when I can't just run an ethernet cable - been using it as backhaul for a secondary AP for a couple of years now! Works perfectly.

[@DctrGizmo]

I tried power line adapters before and it was horrible. I’ve been just using like a 50ft long Ethernet cable from my PC to a router which is downstairs and it’s been great. I do want a more permanent setup though.

[@GrakUs-s8t]

I was passively researching all of this over the last year as I wanted to get a wired connection to my office, this is by far the best video on topic I have seen and I even learned a few things here (somehow I had the impression if you are using the coax in your house, you can NOT use MoCA, which I learned is not true). I ended up just dropping Ethernet everywhere I needed it from the attic. Not the cheapest option but definitely the proper one, although had I seen this video before I ran the ethernet I would have definitely went the MoCA route.

[@TechTimeWithEric]

I’ve been using ActionTec MOCA since 2017. I live in a pretty long mobile home with the modem in the front bedroom. I can tell you with 100% certainty that everything he said in this video is 100% correct. The back bedroom is essentially the exact same performance as plugged in at the actual modem

[@duncanlawrence8214]

As someone who felt they knew about most options, MOCA is a new one and a game changer. Thank you!

[@RandomGreymane]

Nice video! All MoCA adapters should have a MAC address on the bottom of them. You should be able to add a reservation in your DHCP server/router and it’ll automatically assign it the IP you reserved for it. That way you always know where they are on your network unless you change DHCP server/router. Then you know exactly where to go to configure them every time.

[@snazzy]

That's a great idea!

[@Guroji]

powerline user for YEARS>>> no issues EVER. Dumb easy to install no mess love it love it love it. Bring it with me to friends houses or anywhere i need to spread wifi. Its amazing cant speak more highly of it.

[@scharkalvin]

Verizon installed my router in the bedroom I was using as an office. The router needed both an ethernet and a coax connection. The ethernet connection is actually wired to support land line phones (I have FIOS internet, phone and tv service). The coax lines in the house connect to the FIOS fiber adapter, the router and any TV set top boxes connect to the coax, and phones plug into the "ether net" jacks (phone RJ connectors are backwards compatible with RJ45 ehternet jacks). I needed ethernet jacks in the living room so I ran a network cable to the router and tacked it along the baseboard from the office to the living room. Verizon didn't tell me they offered MOCA adapters that would do this, it appears that their router has MOCA transmit built in! Oh well, the ethernet switch and a length of cable were cheaper than the Verizon branded MOCA RX adapter ($99 from Verizion). I paid about $20 for the surplus 10/1000 switch. Each Verizon MOCA adapter has a built in 4 port ethernet switch.

[@calebblankenship3133]

When I was a Verizon FiOS technician, moca was my favorite easy recommendation for fixing bad wifi. Any current FiOS router already supports it out of the box and you can use any moca receiver not just the Verizon branded ones!

[@13Cubed]

Fantastic content. It was great to meet you at LTX sir!

[@transatlant1c]

Thank you Quinn! We have HFC for internet here in our mid-80s house in Aus but also as a result, co-ax in several rooms. I’ve been using unifi mesh for the last year but have been getting lots of drop outs and varied performance- I had no idea about moca! Will definitely give it a good for back haul

[@rivvvers]

That car is a unit

[@yellowdogparty]

SigmaOS seems cool…but Arc is the best. And it’s completely free-for all features. Sorry to crash your sponsored segment. 😂

[@gagnarork]

MoCA has been by far the best with little to no signal degradation. Now all my TVS and computers are basically hard lined.

[@BoricuaFez]

Bought some MoCA adapters when I was renting a house, was able to rewired the existing coax cable to make it all work with my network setup. When I moved into my current house, rewired the existing coax to make it all work. Ethernet cable will be the next step but have to layout the path for ethernet in a townhouse setup.

[@alvallac2171]

*to rewire (infinitive, not conjugated)

[@JoseFBarriosG]

Gran video. Justo estaba pensando en apostar por una red Powerline para construir mi red doméstica. Finalmente me decidí por una red Mesh Wifi 6. Este video me confirma que hice lo correcto. Saludos desde Colombia.

[@TimoMM]

This was just the video I needed. Just bought a new place which has plenty of coax but almost no ethernet. Once again you're my hero, I'm staying super snazzy!

[@chaosfenix]

I tried powerline and ran into those exact issues. Didn't think my run was too far but ended up only getting 40Mbps which is honestly not as good as my wireless connection using unifi APs. I then went to moca 2.0 adapters and they are much better. Really powerline probably shouldn't be used anymore at this point. You are going to be better off with moca or any type of wireless mesh system.

[@chaddimmack]

I installed one of these power line systems in my apartment yesterday. Wifi interference was awful. Slow, but no jitter or packet loss is a good trade-off for me.

[@logibeak]

Just installed a mesh Wifi 6 system using MoCA for an ethernet backhaul on the satellites and it is working great! bit pricey for the adapters but worth it overall

[@CommodoreFan64]

I took most of my coax out years ago after I cut the cord with DirecTV, and got I rid of Breezeline cable internet earlier this year due to high cost, leaving me with only one coax run, so I had considered power line adapters, but like you said it's not the most reliable, so when I went with T-MO fixed 5G(my other option was overpriced really slow DSL) to save some money(i'm still pulling between 400Mbps - 600Mbps + down/ 50Mbps - 150Mbps + up with pings between 16ms - 40ms being the worse I've seen, with all that consistently), and had to put the 5G gateway in my front living room for best signal, I went with a 4 base(they come in 3 packs, and I got the 4th one used) TP-Link X20 mesh WiFi setup, and I'm still getting close to my speeds at the Gateway across my house, so I don't think I'll be running any cables across my house anytime soon. So yeah a proper WiFi mesh setup can still be really good if you don't have more than a 1 gigabit connection.

[@pablomax9376]

Speed is the least of the issues with power line adapters. By definition, they put a LOT of noise on your AC lines. This can cause a lot of issues with various electronics, from humming and popping on your audio system, to wifi connected power switches constantly resetting. They can cause all sorts of trouble.

[@sarjitkaur2205]

As an Indian I have to say American plug look like they are so amazed 😢 and cute 🥺 at the same time

[@Dustmix]

You can actually use different branded powerline adapters, they just need to use the same protocol. Also you can mod some powerline adapters to use 2 wires not connected to mains (like phone lines) making the connection stronger in homes where coax and long ethernet runs are not a solution

[@Holy_Hobo]

Another option that is slightly more "invasive" but doesn't require drilling or holes is using existing telephone lines for Ethernet. It would have to be a relatively newer house that uses 4 wires of a cat 5/6 Ethernet cable instead of actual telephone line, but if you can see the full cable behind a faceplate, get some cheap tools and a KZbin video and you can turn it into Ethernet lines with gig speeds. Similar caveats with Moca, would be easier with a known central location you have access to and depends on implementation but it's an option.

[@Lancers262]

Check with the age and quality of your coax with your cable company. I remembered living in a remodeled apartment complex in Reston Virginia but they kept the same coax cable from the 80s. When had Comcast installed cable internet, they warned me that I will cancel my internet service within a month because the coax cable is damaged.

[@alaingraham]

In the UK, only the living room has coax you're talking about (in the UK we have 2 coax standards. One it the freeview standard, the other is the satellite/cable standard. Nicknames, btw, IDK their actual names, the one you want is the Satellite/Cable Coaxial cables, the most expensive kind). So a coax method isn't feasible here, so Powerline or Mesh Wireless are the 2 types most typical in the uk. You can still have a coax system even if there's only initially 1 point, you could expand it using new cable, but now you're running cable all over the home/flat (albeit still more reliable, and less costly than ethernet) you could get your whole home wired internet for about $15 + cost of the adapters and use a single run vs maybe about $60 ($40 with the advice I mention later, +$30 for every termination point. worth of ethernet + terminations, tools and in multiple runs (though if you use switches at every termination point that can also more easily be a single run, at an increased power usage and significant increase in cost.)

[@JadeAhlers]

Great video. Ive used MOCA adapters for a couple of years now and it was a game changer for sure

[@TornadoBarrage]

I live in an NYC apartment with a bunch of SSID around me, I have FiOS and struggled to get the max speeds, however just found out from your video about coax cable connection, now I have max speed on my Xbox and PC without wifi.

[@proce09]

3:30 ish, those sockets will be wired in parallel, not series

[@EliteProductions3129]

Still need a watch collection video, Quinn

[@SkywereProductions]

Whats he wearing here, Rolex Submariner?

[@jimaki_37]

Just to Add on my case: I had my rented appartment for university. And I wanted to wire my laptop in my living room and my desktop in the bedroom for remote play without messing with wifi. Because there was a door in between, I bought a 15m "Flat Cat5e cable" for 10€ and runned it through the edge of the wall with some clear tape, so it won't move And it fit right bellow the door so I can close it. Now that I left the appartment, i took the cable with me (just had to clean some residue with isopropyl) and I used it again at a airbnb, for better internet speeds and now I gave it to a relative to do the same thing to his room. TL;DR: Try Flat Ethernet Cables for the tricky spots and if the regular cable doesn't go under the door.

[@alvallac2171]

*to add *apartment *university, and *ran *move and *below (different meaning and pronunciation) *an Airbnb (because "Airbnb" starts with a vowel sound) *flat ethernet cables

[@ChristmasTvGames]

I still feel like the powerline adapters are just to waste money on something that doesn't work

[@dhruvmini01]

Wow this is a video that I’ve been wanting for a long time. Super informative for us renters out there.

[@Xealous]

Another tip with actually using ethernet is there are flat cat5e/6 ethernet cables in white, which can be very discreetly run and blends into white walls

[@laz_6802]

That keyboard tho. If that is what I think it is, and it's original, it's worth a fortune.

[@snazzy]

It's not, but just as good! modelfkeyboards.com

[@laz_6802]

@@snazzy Thank you for the reply❤❤ I have kind of suspected it's from ModelFkeyboards, because of the gray color, but dammn it's nice board. Is the case made of out zinc alloy, like on the original ones?

[@snazzy]

Yep!

[@tmnt9001]

I have a different suggestion: replace phone cables with ethernet cables. If you're lucky they are already arranged in a star topology (all going to a central location) and you're golden. If they're daisy chained, you might still manage to make due somehow (I just replaced a small part to connect two rooms I needed).

[@Urboyfromfuture]

I'm still using coaxial broadband. I easily get more than 150mbps speeds.

[@varno]

My apartment sadly doesn't suit the methods mentioned here, (my skirting is half round, so I couldn't add another half round to it). So I used another one, fiber optic cable is incredibly thin, and the new bend-insensitive fiber is really flexible. By using cheap ethernet media converters with bidi transceivers, and pre-terminated patch cables, I ran the cable along the top of my skirting, tacking it down periodically with super glue. The cable effectively disappeared. One thing I have found, that is slightly harder to get, but still available is transparent pre-terminated fiber, if I have to do this again, I will probably use that, as it would be a little less fiddly than painting the fiber to match the wall colour as I ended up doing in my install.

[@alvallac2171]

*another *transparent

[@varno]

@@alvallac2171 Thanks, I typed this on my phone late at night here, so I didn't have the best spelling.

[@David_Quinn_Photography]

we use coax at our house because when my parents built the house internet was not planned out "Computers will never take off so why pay for it" and when my dad finally caved realizing that the internet was a better deal than paying for cable with the exception of no holes so FIOS ran through coax and we cap out about 960 to 1100 which is nice considering I pay for gigabit

[@Parmigiano1]

Feels like if you are living in a home made out of wood drilling few holes is much easier and faster than setting up Moca or running ethernet in conduits. Unfortunately in Europe everything is brick and mortar.

[@fearisan]

You can mix and match powerline adapters to an extent: If they are implementing the Homeplug AV standard. Unfortunately the really fast Devolo Magic 2 powerline adapters are incompatible with Homeplug AV. However, you can use both types of powerline plugs on the same circuit. They won’t disturb each other. That being said: Powerline is highly situational. I have used it in a small holiday house with perfect, basically lab like results. Yet at home with many more circuit breakers its performance is abysmal. One thing you can try is having a phase coupler installed in your fuse box. If you are using DSL, powerline might also be a bad option, since it tends to use the same frequencies but transmits over unshielded cables, turning your walls into antennas. The phone cable itself is also likely unshielded. However, advanced adapters such as Devolo Magic 2 have options for compensating (V)DSL. I haven’t tried them, because I am using fibre, but they might be an option. Also I’m talking about the situation in Europe. Powerline might behave differently here than in NA. In short: if you can, avoid powerline. But for homes with only one circuit breaker per floor it might work decently well or if there is no circuit breaker in between your adapters.

[@eromor323]

Crazy watch bro. Looks good on your wrist, works with the green.

[@laurak96]

Great video and nice to know this technology exists. I don’t necessarily have a need for this, but I had to write a comment so I could tell you how beautiful your cat 🐈 is!! 😻😻

[@DanielAyalaObando]

This is the information I was badly needing, thanks!

[@LoyalSage]

I didn’t know you could do MOCA while the cable is in use, so this might have convinced me to try MOCA soon. Only thing stopping me now is that with a WiFi 6E router, speeds are already fine, and the 2 devices that benefit significantly from a wired connection are next to the router anyway. One’s on the other side of the wall, but I already added ethernet to the existing coax plates and drilled a cheeky hole between the two. My plan was to maybe do MOCA if I ever switch from cable internet to fiber, but for now just use WiFi, but now I might actually do MOCA if I feel inclined to get faster speeds on my TV or move my router/modem somewhere else in the house.

[@jblyon2]

I've never had much luck with powerline. I mean it works, and sometimes you'll get good speeds from it, but every load change also changes the speed or can even cause interruptions. I've only recommended it for people on something like DSL where the connection speed is lower than the even low powerline speeds and running a wire or wireless isn't feasible. I've got 5e wiring in my apartment, which was built just before wifi became common. It runs 2.5 gig fine (once I re-punched the runs on both ends) so I make do with that. Internet is 'only' gig fiber anyway.

[@jig1056]

Wow, moca looks awesome. that’s incredible. I will definitely keep us in mind.

[@haves_]

12:10, a more easier way to understand is take the whole coaxial as only a single cable, because basically it is. And just like a single Ethernet cable, it will have specific throughput

[@michaeljarcher]

Someone showing their Irish roots with a "Bob's your Uncle" nice.

[@guesswho2778]

as an australian that gets 50 down on a good day powerline is a pretty good option over here.

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

Have you ever tried a split ergo ortholinear keyboard with layers and blank keys? Truly next level, amazing more geeks don't use them. Think second layer with a keypad on one hand and arrows/home/end/pg up/pg down on the other etc etc

[@iancurrie8844]

I've tried some of the best AV2000 powerline adapters on the market. you have to go upmarket just to get ones that are reliable. Of those, at best, I'm looking at 100megabits in the best place in the house. Otherwise, about 30 megabits. They ad latency, as well. In all cases, you're better off with wifi 6. I can't think of a single good use for powerline, to be honest. Eventually, I went with a couple of MOCA adapters and they were FAR FAR FAR superior. However, in the very end, I just bit the bullet and dropped real ethernet through the cold air returns without damaging any walls. Easy.

[@kameshganeshan2894]

Option 3, any day !!! Run the cable around

[@rascalguy60]

If the sponsor had a windows version it would be an insta-buy. I wish I could have my safari tab groups on windows.

[@andrewcool]

I really enjoyed this video. I knew about the first two options, but not the last. I wish I knew sooner.

[@nicholasd7731]

For me I’m a pro but for renting I would run cat 6 on the hallway floor exposed and put tape over it

[@OldMan_PJ]

Most of my relatives and myself use powerline adapters to get access to rooms with unreliable WiFi. It works reliably for all of us but as you mentioned is slow.

[@gurupanguji]

Ooh. Learned something new - MOCA 3 is coming soon.

[@Rulerofwax24]

I heard about MoCA probably a year ago from LTT and was thinking about trying to use it for some parts of where I live, particularly as part of a wireless mesh backhaul. But a little later, my internet was getting really spotty sometimes and the tech that came out said our signal was droppping because there were too many coax splitters running through the house, degrading the signal strength. After cutting out a couple of the splitters, our internet has been much more reliable, but eliminated the ability to use MoCA.

[@JagerEinheit]

They do make signal amplifiers for coax, you do need to spec them properly as the cheapest ones used to ignore signals above a certain mhz and only boost satellite / TV signals, if you your specific internet provider if they have an amplifier they use when signal strength is low, you can use that to boost the signal then put splitters after it as you need to, also most amps will boost and possibly split the signal themselves so you can get MoCA working

[@Mohound]

Moca is an amazing solution and is something that I would always recommend

[@chuckmccollim]

Great information, and well researched.