Expensive Tech I Love!

[@RyanBreaker]

6:30 I wholly agree, I was on board with this product until I saw the paid subscription for core features. Now nevermind, not touchiing it as long as that's there.

[@snazzy]

👏STOP👏SUBSCRIPTION-IFYING👏EVERYTHING👏

[@trusttech9942]

Yep. I don’t mind paying for products, but being held ransom for the subscription like this is a dealbreaker.

[@on99kfc]

I don't want my sleep to be subscription based.

[@bilalsadiq1450]

There's two reasons a company will usually go for a subscription model: 1) the cost of ongoing development of certain features of the product means that we need to charge concurrently to fund that development, or 2) Screw you, you clearly have the money to spend on our product, why shouldn't we continually charge you for the pleasure of using it? Especially if there's no similar competitor on the market, I find it hard to believe that $2500 for a bed cover, water pump, heating element and tubing isn't enough to turn a profit. I know R&D and whatnot is also a factor, but surely the subscription is unnecessary... The app development is probably negligible compared to the upfront cost of the manufacturing.

[@ClayBeans]

@@bilalsadiq1450 I'd argue there's a third: investors won't give you money if you don't have a subscription model, as that is a much easier way to build long term revenue than constantly finding exponentially more people to buy your product.

[@MurryEB]

You were 100% selling me on the Eight Sleep (I sleep like crap because I can’t get the temperature right), until I saw the subscription. Hell absolutely no, if I’m spending that kind of money, and I’m happy to given the tech behind it, you’re not locking me out of it because you don’t think I’ve spent enough yet. Like you said some of the features require active development and I get that, the subscription being needed for some features isn’t a bad thing, but effectively making this awesome product a $2500 heated mattress cover if I don’t want to subscribe should be criminal.

[@XxZannexX]

The scary thing about the Eight Sleep is if the company goes belly up. To no fault of your own that core functionality probably stops working. With no way to alter it. Unless these types of companies explicitly say these features will be unlocked in the event they can no longer provide support. I’m hesitant to jump onboard.

[@snazzy]

100% agree.

[@theflash9068]

You could hack it though.... is it doable?

[@fraserembrey5676]

Its also an expensive product of course as with all expensive products it might fail and leave you with nothing but it has a built in failure that if you stop paying the company, it becomes nearly useless despite costing thousands upfront.

[@theflash9068]

@@fraserembrey5676 IMO this disqualifies the product completely from being an option for me

[@RobJess]

Yeah I'm not liking the idea of Sleep as a Service becoming normalised. If I'm going to have smart tech in my bed then I think I need it to be open source. I've learnt that I can't trust companies to do the right thing, so before I buy something that may come to be a major part of my sleep schedule, I need the code (and ideally schematics).

[@MyReviews_karkan]

Someone needs to let Loius Rossmann know about the bed subscription 😂

[@snazzy]

I'll send it over to him lol

[@tomaszkarwik6357]

No, please don't. I don't want For him to die of a heart attack

[@lesniak60]

I wanted to write the same. This subscription i so stupid.

[@Deses]

Is it really not hacked by now? I'm sure someone somewhere is running their 8sleep with a Raspberry and named the project PiSleep. Probably.

[@KieranMahoney]

F this subscription

[@ThisIsTechToday]

4:27 better check on that HomePod 😂

[@Klebanowski]

Was looking for this comment.

[@snjert8406]

​@@Klebanowskime too hahaha

[@funnyent]

Great video as always. 100% agree on the Eight Sleep. I was on board but there's no way I'd pay a monthly subscription to sleep lol.

[@stevenswall]

The optics are terrible, but imagine instead: would you flip a quarter to a witch doctor every night 1000 years ago if they could bless your sleep and you'd wake up great? I would.

[@Blox117]

well except for the part where he called it "Chechuh" not "Checkia"

[@JohnTaylor-xg4jn]

lol I love how Quinn messed with 3 nights worth of his wife's sleep for science. Yeah Science!

[@CHAITHANYAkitta]

this video*

[@parkame1]

an experiment that is featured in this video

[@morells09]

And is still married!

[@brafya]

no joke i was ready to shell out 2500 until the subscription thing popped up, some day their service and servers will shut down and the hardware made useless, with foresight like this they WILL eventually fizzle out. unfortunate.

[@Latsu15]

Same. Ended up ordering their competitor (sleepme) when they started stocking covers again. Hopefully it's good as well. I just wanted something that would work at least somewhat without an app because companies will eventually die, so you have to account for that.

[@transatlant1c]

Exactly the same.. yeah $2500 max and the wife will be happy.. oh wait no i’m not paying a monthly subscription for that whilst hoping they remain afloat. Nope.

[@RobJess]

@@Latsu15 Never heard of that one! It looks like a much better option

[@snjert8406]

​@@Latsu15is it similar to eightsleep?

[@garrickdarts]

For me, although I agree that the $15+ a month is shameful, it's as much about the fact that my $2,500 purchase becomes as useless as having it without a subscription if Eight Sleep go under, or get bought by a company whose privacy terms I don't like, or they decide to double or treble the monthly charge, or I'm out of work for a time, etc etc.

[@thejeff4656]

this is very random but u are very handsome

[@garrickdarts]

Thank you @@thejeff4656 - much appreciated 🙂

[@garrickdarts]

Well, thank you very much!

[@secbytom]

I'm personally not buying the Eight Sleep because of the subscription requirement. I'd pay more upfront, but I won't get locked into a monthly fee for my own bed.

[@mrezgoluckyjr]

4:29 “I think our HomePod just blew up” 😂😂😂

[@jdllim]

Never expected to see a piano on this channel, much more Quinn play the piano, such a delight. Love my FP60

[@Djjolly037]

I feel like we just got a front row seat to Quinn’s midlife crisis 🤣

[@whitemailprivilege2830]

Lmao

[@tomashubelbauer]

FYI The name of the country is pronounced as if it was "Czekia" (che-kii-ia) not "Czechia" (che-chi-ia). Some also prefer "the Czech ('check') Republic".

[@snazzy]

Thanks for the correction!

[@alexandervlee]

For a sec I thought he said Chechnya which didn’t compute at all so I had to go look up their actual address :D

[@wafflesyem]

A shame that the subcription service killed all interest for me.

[@snazzy]

Yeah, subscription-everything is awful.

[@Jonathan.Boring]

I love how the garage light at 9:44 on the top left goes out right after he finishes his thought. Seems too perfect.

[@ArunWadhwa]

Loved the video! I love these kind of videos by Quinn - from server and audiophile setups to guilty pleasure hardware! I’d love to follow a blog about such random topics if he ever created one!

[@UncleJessy]

Woot woot... I own two of the 4 listed I seriously cant wait for the XL input shaping update - thats all I use now on my MK4.

[@snazzy]

It’ll be a game changer. Here’s hoping they can battle resonance!

[@justsprx]

8 Sleep Pods looks cool but up to 3k (CAD) + 20-35 monthly is a lot of money.

[@snazzy]

Totally.

[@Blueyzachary]

4:26 Meghan:“I think our home pod just blew up”

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

I would get the 8sleep thing in the enar future but the subscription thing just made that change instantly. I'll wait for a cheaper version from another company that doesn't have sleazy practices.

[@snazzy]

There's the Chilipad Dock Pro, but I've heard the hardware is much less refined, unfortunately.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

@@snazzy Makes sense. Hopefully someone can match the tech for the same price or cheaper without the subscription garbage in the near future. But I appreciate the information.

[@nicholasdavies168]

@@snazzydid your HomePod really blow up? 😅

[@highnoon9333]

My parents have been using a product similar to the 8 Sleep for about 5 years. It's called the Chilly Pad, but it doesn't have the subscription/sensor stuff. So it's just the heating/cooling without the stuff that you have to pay the subscription for.

[@marcopfeiffer3032]

I think tech products should get warning labels similar to the ones ones on cigarettes, where it's made clear that it has a cloud connection, that that is a disadvantage, and that it will no longer work once the company goes under. It only has disadvantages for anyone involved. An app is fine and good, but it should connect via bluetooth and work without any cloud service. Especially if remote access is as far fetched as for a bed.

[@thatcarguy2002]

4:26 We just gonna ignore the text about their home pod blowing up? Ok

[@GeorgeVenturi]

Not sure I was prepared to watch Quinn on a bed and wearing shorts on a bike for so long ...Wink wink

[@snazzy]

😂

[@Hobo_X]

That subscription requirement for the mattress cover is just disgusting. Shouldn't even be legal

[@Steamrick]

Quinn - may I suggest looking at the Kawai CA701 for your next piano? It's got the Grand Feel III action, which most people will consider as close as you'll get to the feel of a real piano action without spending a whole lot more money on something that's basically a digital with a full piano action inside. I've got the predecessor, the CA79, and as someone in a very similar situation who took 12 years of piano lessons: it's an excellent piano that's a pleasure to play on.

[@Hachiro]

The thermal alarm for the bed would suck for me, cause I learned that my brain does NOT like heat when sleeping. I consistently will get nightmares if I sleep with too many blankets on me. Ever since I figured that out, I've slept either with a light blanket, or with like half of my body exposed to air. I found that the last few times I had nightmares, I was covered with blankets and sweat. Also can't sleep with PJs/clothes on, mainly cause I can't stand the loose fabric rubbing and tugging on the bedding, but partially to prevent overheating.

[@archibaldtuttle3803]

Can only imagine the childhood if this guy was casually playing on a Steinway and Sons or something as a kid and didn’t even care to make something out of it

[@PachoMoncadaM]

Is there anything Quinn doesn’t do? Holy moly

[@zerofox3d]

God bless you for featuring the XL. Tired of all the Bambu shilling from the mainstream 3D printing channels.

[@RobJess]

Yeah Bambu printers are impressive, but the damage they've done to the desktop 3D printing community and market far outweighs that in my opinion. We were a community built on open source and collaboration, and far too many people seem willing to abandon that.

[@MaxPrehl]

Came for the monopoly thumbnail Stayed for Quinn's piano playing 🤩

[@lukeconway4337]

Hi Quinn, idk how many years ive been subscribed now. But I also follow you on twitter and have noticed the trend of disappointing views recently. I want to say, this content is the reason I loved your channel years ago. I always found i could trust your opinion and channel to be fairly representative of your subject, without bias, and with passion about your brand and job. I hope the views come back, and never stop being true to your content

[@brettbianchi6706]

The Yamaha CP or YC 88 are fantastic options for great feeling and sounding keyboards. They don’t have built in speakers but the keybed is incredible feeling.

[@mtthwskdmr2]

I know it kinda defeats the purpose of the video, but I just recently bought the Yamaha CK88 (essentially the next model down) and it does essentially the same as the YC for half the price. I got to demo both at a music store and personally preferred the CK just for the interface.

[@JasonMilner]

I was intrigued by the mattress, but that's a hard "no" on the mandatory subscription model. I will be astonished if they're still in business in a couple of years if they stick with that.

[@JuanLopez-gn7dq]

What piece were you playing?

[@Amigps01]

Ooooo I was thinking about buying the mattress thing, but once you mentioned the monthly payment nah

[@ThisIsTechToday]

So the question is, are you keeping the eight sleep and paying the subscription?

[@HKT-4300]

I had a proper belly laugh at "i think our homepod just blew up"

[@d3xbot]

You're right about Eight Sleep - I looked at the monthly pricing model and thought "I don't need another Netflix subscription on top of 2 grand for my bed"

[@sashsepehran7580]

You are absolutely right! Been looking at eight sleep and was going to eat the price till I found out about the subscription cost and that deterred me away

[@13Luk6iul]

I want some competition in the temperature controlled matress cover market :)

[@TheBrettDuncan]

Having to put NOT SPONSORED in the title and thumbnail to ensure your audience your thoughts in the video are genuine is wild lol

[@snazzy]

The default behavior of viewers is to trust nobody. Kinda a shame.

[@TheBrettDuncan]

@@snazzyagreed

[@davidwestwoodharrison]

I literally had another tab open looking at the 8Sleep until I heard that $15/mo price. Oddly never heard of it in their sponsored stuff with other creators. Quinn is spot on: paying a subscription is deterring buyers.

[@simonstucki]

I like the big battery of that ebike, but if you are using it for commuting all year round (just 10mi/d for 250d/y is already 2500mi/y) you will need a place that will service your bike (or you need to do it yourself) and you probably want to upgrade the brakes and the shifting (but you can do it when the components that come with the bike wear out), make sure your local bike shop will service the bike you buy or learn how to do it yourself.

[@haydennelson9404]

I really don’t want your channel to become a hifi audio channel but I think it would be awesome if you did another hifi tour, also I’d really like a video about the linquist speakers.

[@alexanderperez9236]

would love to see more 3d print content!

[@macbookpro57]

This is why I like the sleep number beds. Has all the same health tracking, while being adjustable for firmness, and the higher end models have temperature adjustment, not locked into some dumb contract. Cool product, but that monthly fee is absolutely a no. Hate how companies are locking features behind a monthly fee, like when bmw was charging a fee for wireless CarPlay…

[@Krahnin]

Out of curiosity, what is your go-to 3D printer? Been thinking about getting one for awhile now but not sure I need a Prusa XL.

[@dylanriner]

Nice playing on the keys 🎹 👏🏼

[@Leapord00]

13:52 he glitched lol. Great review

[@maxx1nsane]

Sleeping well is really important but paying a subscription for a mattress cover (not even a proper mattress) is insane!

[@fluffycritter]

For compact digital pianos I'm a huge fan of the Casio PX series. Some of them look downright beautiful and, in my opinion (as a fellow grew-up-with-Yamaha-CX-Grand kid), has one of the best keyboard feels in any digital piano under $4000. Plus they're way more affordable.

[@TechGamesAU]

Honestly the best and most expensive tech product I bought was the Ecovacs X1 robo vacuum after I saw it on your channel a year ago, it’s really so convenient as a bachelor with little time on my hands.

[@snazzy]

Nice!!

[@bobsdrumlessons]

When your practicing piano, get forScore on your iPad for digital sheet music!

[@devanplayspiano]

If you want a pretty good acoustic piano, check out the Yamaha U1 upright, or even the same model with the silent piano feature, which maintains the action of a real acoustic piano, with a really good Yamaha CFX sample

[@CalvinLimuel]

They do make similar digital pianos with wooden keys. Sticking with Roland, they also have FP-701 and DP603 fitted with PHA-50 which has wooden keys. Same with Kawai CA701/901 and Yamaha Clavinova SLP line, but they're quite a bit more, especially the Kawais. If you're looking for the more realistic touch, there's Yamaha AvantGrand NU1XA which has true acoustic upright piano action, also Kawai NV5S and K300/K200.

[@michaelkork3197]

Love the Husqvarna Svartpilen in your garage. You should have included that one in the list as well 😊

[@shanmango]

Been shopping around for a digital piano myself. The only ones I were satisfied with were the Kawai ones with their RH3 action or their real wood (grand feel) actions.

[@matthewjbauer1990]

At my parents house, they have a Kawai, I think a CE200. You can't go wrong with a Kawai with their grand piano feel system. The CE200 has the AWA Pro II real wood keys and the keys and pedals have the grand piano feel. Overall, that piano lasted like 11 or 12 years and is still going with the only repairs needing done were replacing the fuses. I don't play piano, but I've tried to learn and I think that the Kawai is a good keyboard for the price.

[@Milan-iy3pd]

wow the app could work in local network only but they chose not to do that, thats nasty

[@sicherlichnicht5759]

Interesting stuff, thnx! regarding you question i like the Unistellar "smart" telescopes, expensive but pretty cool if you into Astronomy

[@OldMan_PJ]

I'm laughing at the idea of a waterbed being bougie, I had one in the 80's complete with user controllable heating and no subscription but my parents got rid of it in the 90's when hypothermia fears gripped the nation. It was the only bed I could comfortably sleep on my back, regular mattresses I have to sleep on my side. The electric bike is one thing I want to get, I don't need the expense of a car for getting around town. I've been thinking of getting a piano, electric or percussion, but I'm watching estate sale auctions to get one cheap. 3D printers are an unnecessary expense for me, I've been perfectly happy ordering from Thingverse for the few things I've wanted.

[@TheArtificiallyIntelligent]

But did your home pod blow up?!?

[@Chesternut007]

Do you have a tonal? I thought I saw it in the gym upgrade video? That sure is expensive tech. I wanted your take on it. Thanks! Excellent video.

[@vmatt]

Did the homepod blow up after all?

[@snazzy]

It's dying very slowly. Gen 1 HomePods are ticking timebombs.

[@stebesplace]

I have a much cheaper Roland FP-30 (not the latest X) and it's amazing for under $500, and I got a chance to see the 701, and I agree it's incredible for the price!

[@PR-hl9pm]

You should look at the Swiss Stromer ST7 if you like expensive e-bikes. It has an automatic electronic transmission, anti lock breaks, 240km range and 45km/h top speed. But it’s 14000€

[@LarsFerdinand]

Despite liking stromers, they have a very big Achilles heel: It's a wheel motor, so, unnatural center of gravity. It's not about the most expensive but the best compromise on all fronts. I'd take any bike with the new pinion motor over any stromer, every single day. And pay less. Heck, I'd get a POLE (100%CNC machined) and chose the components myself (hoping for the pinion with them soon). Stromer is overpriced BS.

[@music_city_mav]

another SnazzyLabs Video this month!?!?!?!?! I love this Quinn, love this.

[@Melchirobin]

Out of curiosity since you made this video are these items all tax write-offs now? Amazing video and very helpful.

[@danielcollins7714]

Was going to get the 8 sleep before until I looked on the website and saw the subscription. Either charge for the tech upfront or a subscription, not both.

[@CaffeinatedCruiser]

I got the sleep 8 as well and found it’s pretty good but yes the subscription is outrageous.

[@drayhbae]

Istanbul in the background? Great game!

[@jafizzle95]

I was looking at upgrading my ChiliSleep system a while back but all of the competitors have subscription models, which is a hard no from me. All I want is more cooling power. I become a furnace when I sleep and the Chili Cube I have struggles to dissipate my body heat. Still, so much better than nothing. It fixed a nearly life-long sleep problem.

[@dosadoodle]

Yep, was wanting to get a mattress for temp control, but I am not paying for another subscription. I'll be on the lookout for a company that doesn't see me as a perpetual money-printing machine, and in the meantime, I'll sleep better knowing I'm not paying those vultures.

[@smalle]

Your channel is my dream channel! I’d love to have the capability to channel my hyper fixation of the month/year into a productive KZbin channel!

[@kawaii-sosu]

Can some e-bike owners in the States explain what is the point of owning one? I thought riding a "manual" bicycle is to exercise, build stamina and commuting relatively fast. Why to use e-bike at all? It's like going to the gym, but not working out? Commuting in a large city only to be afraid of it to be stolen? I've had a Ninebot for 3 years and even it seems more practical as a last mile vehicle.

[@JAFOpty]

Quinn are there any updates to your Hi-Fi rig/room? If so, please do a video for it! 🤩

[@snazzy]

There are updates: my house is too small so I don’t have one and all my equipment is in storage haha :(

[@JAFOpty]

@@snazzy LOL oh no! 😄 well, hopefully in the future. I am really liking these more "diversified" tech videos ! 👏

[@markdecker2112]

For digital pianos, look at the Casio Celviano

[@creventa]

Looked at 8 sleep, saw the subscription and immediately said no. What happens if they go out of business?

[@RichAesthetic]

Best take on the Eightsleep I’ve seen yet

[@Blueyzachary]

“I like expensive stuff. Who doesn’t?” ME.

[@mexelman3813]

Great video. The snazzy quality i love

[@RRPHENIX]

Quinns going in hard on the widows in this video!

[@katsudonSaikou]

Yo Quinn, serious question, why not try a weighted blanket? If you like the heft of a comforter but get too hot using it, a knit-style weighted blanket is a literal game changer. I can't go back. Do consider it if you haven't!

[@bcah]

Is your HomePod okay? Did it blow up?

[@TRONTC]

We need a snazzy piano intro next time

[@chupacabra377]

The Eight Sleep is very expensive for me, living in Slovenia and earning a regular paycheck here, but I was certainly thinking about it. Now that I found it its also a subscription, I certainly won't be thinking about it anymore, just too expensive to justify.

[@andytheturtle]

Loved this video, Quinn! I only wish you told us the downsides of these products at the beginning instead of the towards the end, I wouldn’t need to get all so excited and about them and have my wallet ready, then disappointed once you revealed the issues. Nicely done!

[@dsquareddan]

Can confirm, I looked at eight sleep subscription model and noped off the buy page

[@hello-jonas]

Regarding eight sleep, I created a home-assistant prototype that, after some tinkering, can control, and record all sensors, and react to changes in my eight sleep, all without even connected to the internet.. call-home can suck it! **edit: most sensors, there are some I don’t even know what they mean.. maybe flow? Maybe fan rpm?**

[@snazzy]

Woah, woah, woah, woah! Didn’t they deprecate the API? What’s it called?

[@joshs2022]

This could make me willing to purchase one of these

[@IanZainea1990]

3:53 there are studies that show that temperature affects your sleep cycle more than light.

[@Parmigiano1]

That pronunciation of Czechia as "Checha" hurt :D

[@Tylerw9621]

The eight sleep becoming a brick without subscription reminds me of Tonal’s strategy if you cancel subscription.

[@m.f.3347]

Non-musicians will balk at $1600 for a keyboard but IMO that's a steal of a deal

[@eyeDavid]

0:44 ***just a heads up the mattress comes with a cat and you can’t remove it from the order

[@quantumforce4791]

I think our homepod just blew up 🤣🤣🤣

[@imrlyunoriginal]

You should probably check on that Home pod

[@stroffury5]

input shaping beta was released today on the xl

[@snazzy]

Downloading it as we speak!!

[@stroffury5]

Hope it works great!

[@deRykcihC]

I like how straight forward is your video, especially on the 8sleep, nobody speaks abt the cons of subscription thing until this video, presumably all channel I watched were sponsored.

[@KeithSachs]

I'm pretty into the DIY 3d printer scene and i'm really curious what 3d printers you have, seeing that you build a voron and i see a custom? prusa mini. would be cool to know how deep into that rabbit hole you are haha. Very cool!