Did Apple Lie About AAA iPhone Games?

[@ninjamaster3453]

First AAA gaming on ios I experienced was gta vice city back in 2012.

[@sriramsundar8388]

2011 with GTA 3.

[@snazzy]

I remembered these ports when making the video, but from a visual-fidelity standpoint, the Bioshock port was so impressive as it was a current-generation console game.

[@sriramsundar8388]

@@snazzy yeah I understood where you came from while watching the video, but because this person said GTA vice city, I had to say GTA 3, as the mobile port of GTA 3 preceded vice city.

[@TheEviltaco666]

COD zombies back in 2012 on the iPod touch God those were the days

[@high-captain-BaLrog]

San Andreas in 2014 on galaxy s5 was sublime

[@lenn55]

Apple keeps announcing every year that now they are serious about bringing AAA gaming to the Mac. And every year we get 1 or 2, usually old games released and that's it. Apple refuses to spend any of the 100+ billion dollars in cash they have to really bring AAA gaming to the Mac. They do it on the cheap and release a few tools, software updates and then tell game developers it's all up to them now. Unlike MS and Sony that pour 100s of millions and even billions into developing games every single year. Until Apple does something similar things will never change.

[@francoistroudbal402]

well fecesbook did just that to aggressively make VR more of a viable option for entertainment. didnt work. Apple is very slowly trying to adapt to the gaming environment, i dont think its a bad thing. being risky aint boring but thats not apple today i guess.

[@Axeiaa]

@@francoistroudbal402 Apple doesn't need to sell some weird devices that gives people headaches or causes them to throw up though. And well.. they're not Facebook that might try to write some off their metaverse failure off on other things. They could take the Apple TV approach and just make sure the resources they stick in it are high quality so that people actually want it, it doesn't have the wide array of options like other streaming services but what they do have seems to be better written and better executed (only HBO seems to do the same whilst Netflix/Disney produce a lot of lesser quality and Amazon... I don't know, they're just sinking money into mediocre things). If they can buy their way into getting the top 2% of games onto their devices the rest might just follow on their own accord.

[@user-bc7cb8uu7e]

Game porting toolkit is a pretty huge investment. They could definitely do more, but it's not like they aren't trying at all

[@lenn55]

@@user-bc7cb8uu7e not in comparison to all the money and support MS gives game developers. It's a drop in the bucket.

[@user-bc7cb8uu7e]

@@lenn55 Definitely agree that they could do more, but I'm sure a lot of investment was put in to make that toolkit work. I also think return on investment is potentially better building the toolkit then helping a few developers. I'm not trying to say they shouldn't do more, but I also think that the amount of work that goes into something like this is much larger than people give it credit for

[@jadeng1147]

Couldn't agree more, as another Steam deck owner (also an LE!) I was amazed at running GTA4 at 90 FPS, the handheld gaming is just so much better than what any phone could offer for now. Though with that said, for more game developers to harness the GPT it would be interesting to see if any shift happens.

[@Crusader1089]

I really think that Apple needs to develop a switch like first party dock and controller mount. The power of the iPhone is insane but no one is going to take advantage of it while the gaming experience is pure jank. It needs the apple touch of integrating hardware with software. Otherwise we are only going to get shinier idle clickers on iphone.

[@xsleeptodreamx]

Yesss. They NEED this to be taken seriously. My guess though is they’re going to say “good enough” for the iPhone, and really invest into gaming for the Vision Pro

[@impersonator4439]

With inbuilt cooling systems. Also I would like the Apple TV to become a real console. That would be awesome.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

They need to break in to this territory first, and with new console it's hard, as most people will not leave the old console with multiple games for a empty store on new account. But they have 1,5 billion active iPhone users, whi spend about yearly $270 billion (based on the App store yearly renevue, what comes from the 30% cut off from the price). So compared to Steam store they alresdy have 12x more user (Steam has 120million) and 10x yearly renevue (Steam had $8billion /in 2022/ witch is about $27 billion spent money in the store with the also 30% cut off). They only can win against those who are already on this field, if they can gives you more numbers (in both user amount and in spent money by thise users), after the developers start to port their games on Apple device, they can release a new console/hand held, but with empty store, it's no reason, who would leave 100PS games account behind because of an empty store?

[@blaiddfumbler]

@@TamasKiss-yk4stI mean they technically did with iPad Pro m1. You can use an external monitor with your iPad and the external screen will act as a second screen rather than a projection of the iPad screen. And with the introduction of usb c to iPhone 15, it’s certainly possible this could happen.

[@darkcodemonkey4217]

One thing both ios and android have issues with is apps no longer maintaining support for the os, as brought up with the Bioshock situation. Granted that was an extreme case, but there are plenty of apps that are just inaccessible and unable to run on any modern device. Where as with PC, (not sure what the situation is on mac) I can go back 20-30 years or older and play games or run those applications outside of a VERY small handful that are usually due to some sort of DRM setup or something weird. Where as on android or ios, there are a lot of apps that are not even 10 years old, that just wont run due to incompatibility. That would be my concern with any type of big purchase mobile gaming. Guarantee backwards compatibility, and I might be sold.

[@shre6619]

Yeah, even angry birds creators, rovio, removed the classic game

[@Discount-Stonks]

Exactly, I have Max Payne 3 on Steam that I used to be able to play on my iMac with little issue… that was until Catalina when they removed 32-bit support and so I can only play on Windows now.

[@ΒύρωναςΛαδιάς]

@@shre6619It’s still there. It was renamed to Red’s First Flight

[@HUGO-xo2mv]

Roller coaster tycoon 3 is such an example. I loved to play it, but it became incompatible with iOS10 or so and now there is a trash f2p game in exchange there

[@LogicLegionnaire]

Let it evolve and develop further. It’s just the first step by Apple, I’m sure by the time we have iPhone 17-18 these games will run absolutely perfectly

[@orion260]

No. It will always run like this crap in terms of fps and resolution if they keep trying to release fairly new pc and console titles on phones. If the phones will be getting powerful every year so does the game titles which gets more demanding each year

[@andreoliver4449]

The big trouble I see with gaming with apple is the lack of maintaining older catalog. Square enix ported "the world ends with you" to the iPad. When I bought my ipad with apple pencil I was excited to play but couldn't find it on the app store. Just outright depressing.

[@Grishanof]

Meanwhile Dead Space port for android 4 still runs on modern devices 10 years later with barely any patches

[@lucasLSD]

@@Grishanof But every CAVE game stopped working, mobile premium sucks everywhere.

[@Grishanof]

​@@lucasLSD hence the patches. KOTOR needed fixes too, but .apk format at least allows to dig in and fix the compatibility

[@toonfoxart]

It wasn't a console port but man I miss Infinity Blade 2

[@yeshwantkethineni3694]

Obligatory Infinity Blade 1/2/3 mention (and if you try the 60fps version...) I don't think you should need a controller, many good games were made 10 years ago with touch controls

[@3monsterbeast]

Infinity Blade was my shiii a decade ago! I remember being a kid on my iPad feeling like I was playing a high-end game

[@crestofhonor2349]

I think a controller is great. Having to use just the touch screen is limiting even though great games like Infinity blade exist

[@ericbauer4559]

Yeah I gave up on gaming on Mac and iPhone years ago, even though Im a die hard apple guy and I have a 15PM and Mac Studio. I still much prefer my gaming pc and ROG Ally for gaming. I agree, I wouldn't spend AAA games prices on Mac/iPhone games.

[@redxblood85]

If Apple announced today that they are taking it seriously and made big moves, I'd jump back in really quick. It's all commitment from Apple though. Until they actually show they take it seriously I would never consider it. Heck, I would leave android for iPhone if apple took gaming seriously.

[@crestofhonor2349]

I would spend money on AAA games on iOS over the vast majority of freemium garbage currently plaguing the iOS store. But I do prefer to play on my gaming PC and Steam Deck

[@high-captain-BaLrog]

What weird @ss military time are you on guy?!

[@RC2225]

It's sad that the good mobile games from the late 00s until 2012 are gone. Were they complex? No, most of them not. But at least they played around with touch control, accelerometer etc. Even Gameloft made good games. Asphalt 4 is still my favorite racing game with a large variety of tuning and car options. A5 was already a significant step back in tuning, but had some nice tracks with shortcuts and motorcycles are no longer separated. Galaxy On Fire 2 is still today one of my most played game with over 200h. I remember that GoF 2 was with 11 CHF crazy expensive for an iPad app. Then it received two dlcs for 7 CHF each.

[@NathanMillerVisuals]

I believe that with love and care of optimizing these games for iOS it will succeed. I believe the next WWDC we might see Minecraft with a light form raytracing and No Mans Sky. I would actually really like to see rocket league try to come over to. No Mans Sky and Rocket League are my go to Steam Deck games.

[@plutack]

No man's sky wqs suppose to appear late last year yet here we are.

[@vlad165]

What exactly are “love” and “care” in our capitalistic world? Companies care only about money, so if there is no profit no one will optimize/port their AAA titles for iPhone. Especially considering crazy % that developers have to pay from their sales in the App Store. DS and RE are the ones that were ported in direct collaboration with Apple, but I doubt we will see any other AAA soon, or ever. Unfortunately.

[@L3XIE]

Epic owns rocket league now so I doubt it

[@NathanMillerVisuals]

@@vlad165 in terms of those people who are so talented and are very driven that want to develop amazing games. There are passionate artists that work on these that are cut short by the production companies.

[@noreworks]

Sadly I really doubt there's love and care, only greed

[@spencerb8149]

So, pull an Epic Games move? Epic is still operating the game store at a loss, 5 years later. I’m not so sure Apple would be brazen enough to try this strategy.

[@MmntechCa]

I remember a little over a decade ago when pundits were claiming smartphones were going to make handhelds obsolete. And they almost did. It's one of the reasons why the Vita and 3DS struggled out the gate. But the problems with mobile today are still largely the same as they were back then. I remember when SquareEnix ported the Final Fantasy 3D remakes to iOS. People kicked up a fuss saying they were way too expensive. They were were going for $20 on the app store (if that), and were originally (IIRC) $40 on the DS. Touch screens are also arse for most games, so you need to buy a grip as well. Where as the Switch or Deck are both from established companies who are heavily invested in long term support, and offer a consistently decent experience out of the box. They're also seen as premium products, so people are willing to pay a higher price for games. I think the portable market has bifurcated to such a degree that mobile and handheld are just two completely different things now that cater to completely different people. It'll take a lot of work to convince the latter to switch to the former.

[@DoubleO7-11]

I miss Infinity Blade so much 😢

[@Super-qi9uj]

The fact that a game as demanding as re 4 and now death stranding can Run at mostly a stable 30 is huge it means pretty much all ps4 games could run on it, but it needs time developers are waiting for other publishers to dip their toes in and when they see that AAA games they have already made can be profitable on this new market they will start porting their games, if I had a wishlist I guess I would want Elden ring, gta5, rdr2, ds3. re2&3 remakes along with re 7. these games are less demanding that re4 which already runs on it, re4 ran on ps4 at 900p35-40 and rdr2 ran on ps4 at 1080p30 same with death stranding, so on paper they should work.

[@JulioCesar-ko6jv]

Here at Brazil it is easier for someone to buy a ps5 than an iPhone 15 pro or pro max, taxes and prices are crazy high, and imported products are even worse because of our money value. I paid something around 7K on my 14 pro max 128Gb, the minimum salary here today is around 1.306BRL (269usd)

[@emmabentley7945]

Anti aliasing is a major issue even on MacOS try running X plane 12 at 2XAA it's not possible , FXAA is the only way, interesting video, thanks for all your videos this year, merry Christmas ❤

[@joshd108]

Waiting patiently for assassins creed. I just want to experience it on my phone for the novelty of it

[@de7518]

When do you think it will relase?

[@thedragon4453]

I would definitely like to see more AAA titles on the iPhone, but the thing that I think of to compare it to isn't a PS4/5/xbox, it's the Switch. There is no way any iPhone in the last couple of years can't perform better than the Switch, and I think until Apple is ready to spend an objectively absurd amount of time/money on talent and getting someone to make their Breath of the Wild, gaming probably won't go much further on iOS.

[@xsleeptodreamx]

Maybe they’ll make a push for it on the Vision Pro, I’d love to see that

[@fliko6808]

What are you talking about? Switch has a mobile chip from 2017, Android can already run a lot of switch games through emulation at a higher frame rate and image quality. speaking of emulation, what about PC emulator on android? that can basically run GTA 5 at 40fps at 1080p on a galaxy S23 Ultra, imagine this running native on an Iphone.

[@YasinHasan]

remember when all the iSheeps said M1 gonna destroy PC market? & i said it wont even make a dent in PC market? well same case here. AAA playable apple phones wont be able to do shit about gaming market. things only changes when android or windows does it.

[@loganrussell48]

Maybe Vision Pro will have the hardware needed to let you play the AAA on the “Big Screen” and pick up where you left off on your phone, and also have decent frame rates

[@farguc]

I remember getting GTA 3 on Android and thinking it will be years before we get GTA 4 on a phone or handheld. Now we have GTA 5 on Steam Deck running at very playable settings/fps. It's insane. The fact that my phone can run games that I played growing up like its nothing is already amazing. The fact that I can do it with more recent games now is even more insane.

[@thisismugisha]

10:03 Amazon and Uber are literally criticized for doing the kind of shit you're advising apple to do! Get into a market, have extremely low prices, operate at a loss for years till there's no competition, and once there's no one to compete with you, set whatever price you want!

[@snazzy]

That’s capitalism.

[@marcustmusic]

This makes me curious how Apple will treat gaming on the Vision Pro with even less market saturation? If a AAA game on iPhone is a hard pitch for Apple and the market hasn't shifted away from free-to-play in the last 15 years, how would gaming look like on the Vision Pro with less users? My prediction is that Vision Pro won't be any better at gaming (in terms of the market) than the Mac or iPhone and Meta will still dominate the VR/AR gaming space for a while (perhaps 2-3 years after Vision's release at best).

[@johnatkinson1111]

I do think Apple is approaching the Vision Pro not as a gaming device but as a lifestyle device similar to how the iPhone is primarily portrayed. They seem to be focusing on things like productivity tools and being able to multitask in a 3 dimensional space. The problem is that Apple has put all the most advanced tech they had in the Vision Pro that it skyrocketed the price that they're trying to make it easy to pitch it as a business expense, like something you could use around the office. If Apple wanted it to be a gaming device I think they would have made controllers for it. The finger gestures are cool and all but it's going to struggle in real time action that vr games require.

[@andresfurious8302]

I’m genuinely surprised Skyrim isn’t on phones yet such old games like Skyrim fallout, bioshock I would say hollow knight is possible but considering its such a hard game on controller and keyboard I bet on screen it would be even worse specially in the path of pain and some bosses so maybe not hollow knight but many 2005-2013 games I bet have potential to making it to a mobile setting I suppose the developers would consider obviously have them be much cheaper like 10-15 dollars

[@YoloTub3]

Probably because microsoft made them exclusive to xbox game pass thinking why port it to phones when you can play it on the cloud using a phone

[@star_man]

AAA games on an iDevice: Give it 4 years and after numerous IOS updates that breaks the game each time requiring the developers to patch the game it doesn't become financially viable for the developer to support the game any more and suddenly you can't play the AAA game that you "bought" for your device. I've lost count of all the games that I can no longer play. Whereas on PC you have compatibility mode and can install complementary programs and utilities (like DOSBox) to allow you to play your games for literally decades.

[@crestofhonor2349]

iOS breaking things has been an issue for so long. Some games have been immune but so many get broken because of Apple

[@glujaz]

Can confirm... Deus Ex, Rayman Run... Deus Ex, which we actually never got the ending by the way...

[@JoshuaVarghese]

Infinity Blade was not, “just a tech demo.” It was a *masterpiece*

[@Michael18751]

Bro. I can't even download Minecraft on my iPhone 4S anymore. Even though it is compatible, but with an older version. I want to play the older version.

[@Luisgvn]

Great analysis on the port and market 👏🏻

[@vaughanprint]

Nelson, only one criticism, generally about all gaming… it’s still not as crazy as a Saturday night in the local village. Merry Christmas.

[@Mayor_Imad]

The Ejection of the IPhone cover sounds like clicking a pistol

[@njgaming3322]

Remember when Ubisoft announced Assassin’s Creed Mirage for iOS? Yea that never happened yet

[@noahalmeida2658]

It released today 😂

[@sansundertale5274]

aged like milk

[@quixomega]

I hate the mobile game industry's monetization strategies, at this point I mostly just play Duo Lingo and Cytus 2.

[@Moustafa-Sabry]

What is the game on the left at 9:20?

[@snazzy]

Alan Wake 2.

[@Moustafa-Sabry]

@@snazzythanks!!

[@drewpatterson8009]

You're missing the most important part, this is the 1st gen of PC AAA gaming on a phone. Apple always makes its next iteration infinitely better. iPhone 16 Pro is going to be an absolute gaming beast.

[@high-captain-BaLrog]

i remember infinity Blade by square enix quite well and a few other early 2010s games Mobile gaming went down in quality and went up in mediocre mass appeasing pandering with pubg and genshin and whatever the heck else

[@OldMan_PJ]

Worked for Google, oh wait.

[@anenglishmanplusamerican7107]

“I’m a totally blind person, and I love Apple. The only reason I have a Windows computer, besides studying, is to play games, which Apple considerably lacks compatibility for. Additionally, there are games accessible for the visually impaired community. Hence, I asked my mum and dad to buy me a Windows laptop, which they did. But think about this: I shouldn’t have to spend $1200 on a gaming laptop when I already have a Mac for which I shelled out $1300. I enjoy using both of them, just saying.”

[@robertp457]

“Good enough” gaming isn’t a good enough reason to consider gaming on an iPhone.

[@LaidBackDeveloper]

6:38 not 3x at all. A17 peaks at 16 watts which is similar to the steam deck.

[@R3endevous]

sustained power usage is 4.5W, peak doesn’t matter if it’s for 20 seconds

[@joseabraham777]

I have seen some videos and the iPhone is so much powerful but it has serious thermal throttle issues, it’s like having an i7 CPU on a MacBook Air Chasis, is useless. In a test, the Galaxy S23 Ultra performs better on gaming without screen dimming and without thermal throttle. I’m an iPhone user and I really like my iPhone but Apple must solve the overheating problem that they have (at least) from the iPhone 12 series.

[@joseabraham777]

By the way, great video, I agree with you.

[@BraxtonMeyer]

you could've just said what "Nintendon't"

[@BearApps]

It’s worth noting that upscalers (at least the amd and nvidia variants) have and tend to improve drastically over time.

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

Apple needs to stop trying to act like the gaming industry is just going to bow to their demands, and actually support some damn standards! Work with valve to make a mac version of proton, start supporting vulkan, literally anything. Apple does not have the gaming market share to demand ports even with their little porting toolkit. Get the marketshare, then start making demands if you want.

[@Jaxv3r]

Game porting toolkit is just proton but Apple just took the full credit.

[@hubris04]

😂 I wrote a comment on video about how the Ipad pro m1 can play Death Stranding . And I said is useless and stupid to pay 1500$ for a ipad if you have Gaming in mind and you can buy a Asus ally and steam deck instead. You have no idea how many Apple sheep mentality people came to tell me that I am wrong and telling me Asus ally and Steam deck are just some toys and can do nothing else outside of gaming ,but if this are just some toys ,a Apple product is trash in the gaming industry.

[@Drkbadger7719]

Wish bioshock still worked

[@davidcache]

Apple added crossover to xcode. Its similar to valves proton, it's an abstraction layer...

A love Apple Arcade because I can play on iPhone, iPad and MacBook with the same cloud save file.

[@Gamer_io]

10:42 "Genesis does what Nintendon't" Hehe, love that reference.

[@benscherer7256]

Whaduya mean tech demo like infinity blade‽ that was a great game, that had 2 sequels. One of the earliest games i remember playing on my iphone that felt like a full game.

[@daniebello]

They’re only needs to be three settings for each Apple device. Graphics, performance, balanced.

[@Denotum]

Totally agree with you. Feral ports are high quality but buying a new iphone just to run a bunch of aaa ps4 games would only work with exclusives such as marvels spiderman (believe me people would get an iphone to have that on their phones) , old ac games like ac 1,2 black flag which would run much better than mirage. Same story with ipads. Launching ported classic rts games like c&c , starcraft warcraft, dune will capture gamers.

[@Christian-zd4sl]

First AAA game I experienced on iPhone was COD Zombies Kino Der Toten in 2012

[@samfarabee2963]

The problem with iPhone gaming is not the chipset they put in their devices ... Did you say it crashed when it exceeded 6GB of RAM?! Apple gimps it's own hardware by not offering sufficient RAM ... Among other things. Great chipset, overpriced, underperforming devices ... It's sad they're still in business. They know what you want/need ... They think you're stupid.

[@Jae87217]

Mines doesn’t crash

[@terribletimes902]

I’m glad someone called out how lazy the RE ports are on iPhone. Yeah, ok it looks amazing. But maybe make it playable on touch screen?

[@beegusburger]

Great video! It’s such an interesting topic…Apple and gaming. You have a great take and as things continue I would love to hear more. Until the next one!

[@LeeroyGoldmane]

Unfortunately bioshock cant be downloaded on iPhone anymore I checked

[@underdasink8641]

I feel like capcom should of noted that the intense graphics are only for hardware in the future like the iPhone 16 17 18 so we wouldn’t all be turning it all the way up just to see how it if for the game to crash when anything intense is going on

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Expected a powerful ARM SoC like the A17 Pro to blow away a low end x86 APU. The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 GPU is already on par with the A17 Pro.

[@mrsebsin]

As a Mac lifer, I wish I could properly game on it, but it’s not going to be a reality in my lifetime. I’m building a new $2K SFF gaming pc right now over the holidays to replace my $3K prebuilt that’s about 5 years old. The PC JUST runs everything from AAA to random emulators and everything in between. Sure I can play some stuff on Mac or iPhone but it’s so limited why would I bother, especially for the cost. Not too mention I can stream my PC to my phone or Mac and play my entire library from my PC. You nailed it Quinn, Apple refuses to put in the leg work, AKA lose money to build up their gaming business. For such a rich company, it would seem so easy to do this.

[@4000marcdman]

Having to carry the. Controller is the same as a handheld in size maybe not weight. Better to have a fold. Where the bottom half is a on screen controller.

[@febrianadji5758]

What if you add coolers for 15PM? Would the game(RE4:R) exceed 30fps limit?

[@marcustmusic]

I've played Minecraft PE a long time ago until it was replaced with the Bedrock version and I can say that is the best mobile gaming experience I've ever had, I even play a little bit of Apple Arcade games recently only because I got a few months free and may or may not be a paid subscriber. I even tried playing Xbox Cloud Gaming-because it does work through the Cloud Gaming website-and it's fine. My problem with mobile gaming is the market. I played anything from the free time-waster apps to the handful of AAA games you could find and even cloud gaming. While I'm more likely to buy games for my Mac or main desktop system or even console, I find myself not paying for games on mobile unless I played the console versions or I game on the cloud. $40-$70 on console is steep but adjustable whereas $40-$70 on a borked version on mobile is unsellable to me. Especially considering these "higher quality" games than free-to-play is only on the latest iPhones and those same countries you mentioned that can't afford mobile gaming, they can't afford a $1500 phone. Even if you find a AAA game that is decent, it sucks compared to consoles or PCs. Something else I just remembered, gaming phones already exist. ASUS I think makes their ROG phones that are dedicated to gaming and even they can't change the mobile game market. I think Apple just needs to find ways to make actually good AAA games for under $10 while also giving fair pay to developers. For now, I suggest Game Pass with a controller for your AAA on mobile thirst

[@johnatkinson1111]

I think if apple wants to succeed with mobile gaming they have to do it in a roundabout way, like with resident evil 4 when you buy the iOS version you also get the Mac version which helps as you could easily buy the Mac version and have the iPhone version just be a bonus but what I'd really like to see is apple put some more focus on the Apple TV in terms of gaming. Like not only is it one of the cheapest ways into the apple ecosystem but it could also work as the console side of the gaming initiative. Like if you got a game on Mac, iOS, and Apple TV it becomes a much better sell as you basically get the to go version, the desktop version, and the console version for one price.

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

Same, the 3D GTA games' ports were also some of the best the app store had to offer, despite the high number of bugs compared to PC/PS2/Xbox

[@kyttraus]

Was Quinn ever wrong?

[@bluestar5812]

Apple feigning genuine interest in the gaming market to trick customers once more? Who could saw that coming? Seriously, Apple has been playing this trick for decades. They announce some port of an older AAA game and make a big deal of it to promote their new hardware, tricking customers into believing their expensive Apple devices can also be dedicated gaming devices. It's a bait and switch. Apple never cared about games, Steve Jobs himself hated videogames and didn't wanted Apple devices to be associated with games. Especially now that they have their subscription model with Apple Arcade they will never support single player single purchase games.

[@RedDieGaming1]

To me this is a win i always loved console games on mobile, i remember Prince of Persia WW ported by gameloft and assassin creed chronicles i was amazed back then with it, the only difference is the performance and graphics has changed, i would happily buy these games but apple need to make the iPhones run more cooler so we can have a stable frame rate, or else its just better off be on the M series iPads

[@ricarmig]

As long as they don’t get their stuff together and well, it’s worthless to spend that amount of money trying to play something useful. I bought on Steam for much less the x86 versions which I can play on a laptop, desktop or handheld like Steam deck without paying again and with much better graphics.

[@maxrburgess]

I’ll take gaming on macOS seriously if they return 32-bit support. Removing that was uncool.

[@maxrburgess]

They need to have a slightly stronger backwards compatibility attitude.

[@Thegooob95]

Went straight to the App Store to find bioshock and it’s of course not there :(

[@unbanmekoil]

Just a heads-up: Trilinear antialiasing isn’t real. Must be a mixup of TAA antialiasing and (trilinear) texture filtering. Texture filtering has no appreciable performance cost on modern systems whether set to trilinear or 16x. 👓

[@johnblackmouth]

Just preordered Death Stranding Directors Cut for iOS.

[@TheWesman45]

5:57 I'm sorry, did this guy really just draw and present an iphone like a gun?

[@codythep]

Harrowing facts about the mobile half of the gaming industry at large.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

what if the $70 phone game also runs on a apple headset with a controller ...that could be popular one day

[@MarkLeznik]

This is great video Quinn! I love the take and 1000% agree!

[@AdmiralBison]

Mobile gaming being popular in Asia I am willing to bet will CHANGE in a few years. Handheld gaming PCs are becoming a thing and so are very cheap RETRO handhelds that hold thousands of games for like $35.

[@NetvoTV]

I think one of the brainwash problem is these marketing make some people think their iPhone will be good enough to game and will be able to play these and more AAA games for years to come is not a truth at all, it's all just smart marketing that make people hype up to buy and game on these devices to be the early birds to help to fund what's promised to come, your youth will age, hence would you want to waste your youth to game on less quality to fall into the hype of what's coming than actually get a well developed and capable console or PC or Mac versions that you get to enjoy the intended experience right now, these companies need these people fall into the hype and pay for it to fund their vision is a reality but if you want what's best for you at your current age, choose the proper rational setup choices

[@KennyT_OfMusic]

I believe this is just tests for apple to get into the portable gaming craze going on, with their own device.

[@tylerdurden783]

9:30 My brother in christ, ya gots ta wipe down your gear before putting it on camera

[@MrSamPhoenix]

This is pretty interesting. Mostly because Apple is taking gaming seriously.

[@JaysonYan]

Wondering if we we see re4 as a launch tittle for vision pro

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Yeah this is pretty incredible. No, it’s not completely “there yet” in the sense that it could get a lot more optimized, fps caps should eventually be removed, and MetalFX should be updated to actually make a difference in this game specifically. But this is crazy that you can do this on a smartphone. And yes, it’s no surprise that it’s an iPhone that is doing it first, because the iPhone is simply the most powerful smartphone. But eventually, as phones get more and more powerful, I could see these console games-on-phone situations become mainstream with every manufacturer.

[@Mkhl4Sure]

except is not the most powerful, i am sure Android with latest QUALCOMM chip could run the game with the caps that have been put on it. Only reason it was advertised on iPhone is because of the popularity of iPhone

[@fliko6808]

I dont get it, how could you say that Iphone is more powerful if Qualcomm already launched a snapdragon chip that beats the latest Apple chip? and now on Android you can basically play a lot of AAA pc games through emulation, GTA 5 at 1080p/40 fps at medium settings.... fallout 3 at 60 fps

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

@@Mkhl4SureiPhone IS the most powerful. ~10% more powerful CPU, which is the bottleneck of the GPU. And the GPU is in fact on par with the 8 Gen 3 from Qualcomm, despite the latter’s higher 3D Mark score (26 vs 29 fps). 3D Mark is not the only benchmark that should be used to gauge the performance, that’s where most reviewers like Geekerwan go astray. And those that test more usually just check Antutu - a benchmark that is absolute bullcrap for cross-platform testing (admitted as such by the devs lol)

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

@@fliko6808Because it doesn’t beat the Apple A17 Pro. Those who say it does are going simply by the 3D Mark scores shown by most KZbinrs. There’s about a 3-4 fps difference (25 or 26 vs 29) in everything, and a larger disparity in ray tracing. However, 1) 3D Mark takes better advantage of Android using the Vulcan API and doesn’t perfectly utilize Apple’s hardware with Metal; you have to go by multiple different benchmarks. And 2) 3D Mark’s Solar Bay is fundamentally flawed; in addition to the same issue I mentioned above, it tests only one aspect of ray tracing, when there are many aspects of the ray tracing processes and the rendering engine in general. It’s not fair to go off of 3D Mark, no more than it was to go off Geekbench back before the much more accurate Geekbench 6, but it’s considered the standard benchmark so everyone uses it.

[@fliko6808]

@@Epicgamer_Mac Oh, I didn't knew that, thanks for the info! and sorry for saying this wrong.

[@Jbrimbelibap]

Sadly the iPhone doesn't have a top tier Adreno GPU unlike top tier Snapdragon android phones I haven't seen any iPhone run the witcher 3 at 60fps yet, or skyrim; nothing beats having nintendo switch emulators in terms of AAA game availability

[@ditroia2777]

Metal FX is based on FSR.

[@Pjdj10000]

Fun Fact: you can run resident evil village just aswell on a iPhone 14 pro and even on older iPhones completely fine by side loading it

[@jj_1edzep]

I agree with some comments here. Apple shoulnd't force the gaming industry to adapt to them, they should start to adapt themselves to the gaming industry OR just accept the gaming market is not for them. This way they're not going to win over enthusiast gamers over to Mac or iPhone if they're not already using that. To win gamers over they need to: - Support existing graphics APIs (developing your own is fine, but support the current ones as well) - Have better expandability. Give them the ability to upgrade graphics, ram and storage (even if just for desktops), and/or have (external) GPU options. - Only push gaming on iPhone if it's done well and accessible for developers. Create a good ecosystem and a decent game-library. Otherwise it's not going to happen as long as there are alternatives like Switch (2?). Even Android does not manage this, and done well iPhone good be a real hook for casual gamers. But as long as there are Steamdeck-like devices (which are going to get smaller), enthusiasts are not going to switch (no pun intended).

[@yellowdrangon]

I hate the free to play game market on IPHONE....it just a bunch of mindless time wasting crap. That somehow is EXTREMELY profitable.....

[@chronicillz1879]

9:20 what game is that on the right side there?

[@Rob-Raz]

BioShock for iPhone pissed me off. I bought it. I played it. I enjoyed it. Then 2K and Apple got into a pissing contest. Now I can’t even access the game anymore. So I essentially spent $60 to rent a game. 0:58

[@james-ch]

Xcom came out before bioshock

[@RafiedHashim]

Snazzy why dont you update your KZbin channel cover ?

[@dragaliaflux4029]

💀 android with almost 60 fps on R.E. 7

[@Steamrick]

The best game on the iPhone by far (IMO) is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

[@tonyburzio4107]

Blackberry users just can't believe their days are done. Whoops! Did I say Blackberry?

[@ditroia2777]

The steam deck Oled is on 6nm compared to 4nm and on pretty old cpu architecture AMD’s Zen 2.

[@zoiuduu]

9:25 what game is that one after alan wake 2?

[@matthewrichardson2533]

Honestly, I still wanted non Apple electronics because Apple products always work amd are nice but it's hard to find creative things to do with them. Dex, rooted Androids, Steam Decks and mini PCs have just been so much more fun to mess around on. It kinda sucks that people associate Apple with high status to the point they miss out on creatice things to do with other electronics.

[@danielj.3326]

I am ok with giving more money for a good game. I am fed up with free full of ads crap tbh. The only thing I want is single purchase across devices. iPhone, Mac and Apple TV can make a great combo for casual gaming.

[@BlindMango]

Apple should really start paying devs to port their games to the Mac, especially now that’s it’s easier than ever. The percentage of Mac users has been creeping up to a surprisingly high degree over the years and Mac would be a killer gaming OS. I’m sorry though, companies shouldn’t waste their time putting new AAA games on iOS lol

[@SanderCokart]

texture filter? if it is Anisotropic filtering you are talking about it has always had 0 to no impact on performance like 0.001% shadows is still by far the heaviest setting of any gam aside from antialiasing which is getting less common now upscaling with AI is a thing and also Nvidia DSR functionality.