Ultramarines vs Sons of Horus - Horus Heresy (Battle Report)

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[@joshhough9508]

Thanks for having me! That game was a load of fun 😁

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Josh! Hopefully see you soon

[@tomrulz11]

Hey Josh , awesome army , quick question, how do you get the rhino transfers to cross the seams in the top doors without creasing ? Is it micro sol/set ? How does it not just crease and ruin once you put it on. Thanks !!

[@joshhough9508]

@@tomrulz11 Hello mate. I used the micro sol/micro set but also used a hair dryer to melt the transfer into the seams and carefully sliced with a scalpal down the seams

[@tomrulz11]

@@joshhough9508 Thanks mate ! Really appreciate it. Ima try this on my 2nd SoH rhino - I was too scared to on the first one haha . Wish me luck !!

[@joshhough9508]

@@tomrulz11 Good Luck Brother!

[@Na_bro_leon]

These armies are beautiful! And gotta say - you have one of the most chill/fun channels for HH content. Just great attitudes and guests, and the hobby quality of the armies is always phenomenal. Thanks!

[@SNBattleReports]

Much appreciated!

[@fingersrfw8851]

Really enjoyable report. Two beautiful armies played in the best spirit of the game. Josh is a legend!

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Phil

[@ed8930]

35:50 Contemptors are movement 8 so get +1 to their charge meaning he would have made the roll on a 9 unless you had already factored that in when you were saying it was a 10" charge 41:20 there is nothing that says that you cannot use the same reaction twice in a phase on different units 1:08:00 Multi charging is always a disordered charge anyway, you only get the +1 attack etc for charging a single target

[@AubLambe]

Yeah, the rule is the same unit cant react twice in a phase. I know it's hard to keep track of everything, but there is a sense of arrogance at play. When the Ultra Dread took 4 out of 6 wounds, and Pardo was like, so I'm at 4, and didn't let the guest even process it before placing the die down. Saving him in the next combat

[@SNBattleReports]

Arrogance really dude? 😯

[@SNBattleReports]

When did that happen? Nobody has commented on that

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Ed yeah we factored that in for that charge. Made a mistake with the reaction sorry and remembered about the disordered after thanks! Also rememebr guys we are really trying our very very best! Believe me we don’t want to make mistakes but when you play 20 different armies and three different rule set games it’s very difficult

[@AubLambe]

@@SNBattleReports I'd get into it, but Pardo's had a rough week and he needs a break from hate. Not that I hate him, in fact I love all the work he does for this community. Personalities shine bright in these Battle Reps

[@aidenodonoghue]

God, that Sons of Horus army is beautiful and great to see such a wide range of units. Almost enough to make a man turn traitor

[@SNBattleReports]

Just about right...

[@Black_Blow_Fly]

It’s really nice to see some new faces and their beautiful armies. ❤

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah it’s very refreshing for us as well

[@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073]

Simply the best battle reports on youtube. I really enjoy the awesome looks of the armies you bring to the table and the terrain and the chill, casual like atmosphere. Also I am extremely happy there were no Fulmentarus present, also I am looking forward to the mentioned nerf to Artificer armor tanking wounds nonsense (the initiative cap sounds like a really smart way to do it).

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks very much my friend

[@latro666]

Hot tip with javlins if you are tempted to react by firing back it might be better to evade because they can re-roll shrouded!

[@SNBattleReports]

They can reroll shrouded? Wow

[@joshhough9508]

Did not know that one!

[@latro666]

Yea! Anyone with Harbingers of the legion can! Think it's only land speeders in the core units but one to look out for in legion spec stuff

[@LaMDoH123]

Both armies look great, but those Sons of Horus are something else. They look battered and dirty, and it’s great

[@SNBattleReports]

They are awesome!

[@jacobbodmer3159]

Yay more HH! As for the "Can I brace" question - Yes, you can. *However* it 's a moot point because 1.) it was an illegal charge, he shot the reavers at the terminators in the back =) 2.) It was a multi-charge, which are always disorganized. (pg 182)

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah we saw this after thanks Jacob

[@lohkee]

Great bat rep and great looking armies. Just a note you have to take Murderous strike wounds first, before any other wounds :)

[@SNBattleReports]

Interesting thanks! So all instant death attacks?

[@14DEADSOUL]

@@SNBattleReports no, just murderous strike. It has a special clause in the rule that makes you have to take those saves first!

[@SNBattleReports]

@@14DEADSOUL perfect thanks

[@nickarmiger2003]

Team,loving the battle reports and the guests with their spectacular armies. 49.19 minutes in the Ultramarine Dreadnought took 4 wounds & should of been down to two. Fortunately the mighty Sons still prevailed, but that contemptor was quite pivotal the mid field.

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah saw another comment with that thanks good spot

[@nickarmiger2003]

@@SNBattleReports BTW liked the more balanced Ultramarine list, those loyalists can get very powerful very easily.

[@whatwazthat1]

Minor rule mistake on the ram: first you cannot ram a vehicle that has already had troops disembarked. Second: you inflict ram attacks before death and glory. Third need to pass a moral check. And lastly, attacks auto hit

[@joshhough9508]

Didn't know about the disembark! It's a new feature for me and something I want to do a bunch of as Sons of Horus. Thanks for the info mate

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Buddy nice to know

[@whatwazthat1]

Another minor mistake, your question about if that lone terminator can stand firm. Yes he can, since he is not in combat. However since the reavers multi charged, it's considered disordered regardless. The game was great to watch. Don't let the rules minutia stop you from having fun!

[@warpaintjj]

Great stuff, lovely armies & laid back yet tense games. Keep em coming Gents.

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks a lot buddy glad you enjoyed it

[@TheDarkjulian]

Great game, as always, i never tire of your reports of horus heresy battles! Really like the ultramarine praetor. 👍👍👍

[@SNBattleReports]

Thats great to hear

[@14DEADSOUL]

In Pardo turn 2 they incorrectly state that you can't use the same reaction more than once per phase: this is incorrect you can use the same reaction as many times as you can - you are just unable to react more than once with the same unit! P.159 Core Rulebook.

[@SNBattleReports]

Yes he got confused there for a second

[@14DEADSOUL]

@@SNBattleReports no problemo, you're doing well so far with the new game!

[@heresyinsider]

I didn't mind homeboy not knowing the rules I like new people getting in on the game. Reminds me of how my friend and I play.

[@maxtracker2904]

God…that war-worn Sons of Horus paint job is amazing…

[@SNBattleReports]

They are sooo cool

[@aglumm9469]

I’m so jealous you got a hold of one! Your painting is so good! Keep them coming!!

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Boss

[@lordmalal]

Those volkite culverins did a lot of work.

[@SNBattleReports]

They did!

[@veteranofbaal8232]

It's always a pleasure to tune into an SN bat rep

[@Alex-yg5uh]

Don't think there was any point bracing as multi charges are always counted as disordered.

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah we found out after 😂 sorry

[@abowley]

Awesome game and keep the heresy flowing guys, smashing it!.

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Ashley!

[@thexydis]

Ahhhh the Drakus Gorod model. Great to see it on the table!

[@thesleepylion399]

Loving all the heresy content

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Champ!

[@titiustatius7926]

holy smokes! those sons of horus look exquisite! bravo! #besttables #bestpaintjob #SN2023 (you think i didnt see the beautiful bicolored crate on mr pardo deployment zone? well i did, it's exquisite too)

[@SNBattleReports]

Haha thanks 🙏🏽

[@Arion894]

Fantastic game of HH 2.0 and gorgeous armies! Thank you for this battle report.

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Thanks Boss

[@richardhorton2472]

Although it probably wouldn't have made a difference overall, you where rolling for the brutal saves incorrectly. Brutal wounds don't spill out across a unit. so brutal 2 is 2 saves on 1 model, any overspill is lost, page 117 legions book. so some of your terminators could have survived those combats. Great game as always and great looking armies.

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah I’m sure we did that right. As we know it’s like that. Nobody else has said anything either which weird

[@SNBattleReports]

Glad you enjoyed it it looked amazing

[@richardhorton2472]

@@SNBattleReports both times for you're terminators you just grouped all the dice together and rolled them

[@SNBattleReports]

@@richardhorton2472 oww i understand now

[@vitaliyred622]

That's a very nice blue, is that ultramarine from Vallejo? Care to give the recepie? Sons of Horus also look like straight from the books, grim and dirty, amazing!

[@SNBattleReports]

Fullcirclehobby is the painter on Instagram boss

[@jamesgibb5762]

Kudos to Pardo for being very good with Rules this game

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks James. Still missed some though. Found out even ruins with cover saves with vehicles still only give a 6+ not 5+

[@jamesgibb5762]

@SN Battle Reports if you both agree on a 5+ that's fine though. In any of the cases it mattered you guys could have used an evade for the same result

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@@jamesgibb5762 yeah but you can use evade and the cover save which is cool!

[@fingersrfw8851]

These are two amazing looking armies

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Thanks Champ

[@thumpfump2268]

Love those justarin, nice to see those nuscale models in batreps!

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks 😊

[@yurybarsukov6166]

When DC started telling about the armies and then Josh about sons of Horus, i was VERY surprised and a little bit scared thinking like "Holy -hydra dominatus- Emperor, DC playing for the Emperium, whaaaat?!" :D Everything went on it's places then, but i'd like to see my own face during first 10-15 seks)

[@SNBattleReports]

😂

[@sn_dc]

😂😂😂

[@Alex-bc3gz]

Nice video and of course GLORY TO THE WARMASTER !

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Alex

[@alihalkett9954]

Love the heresy content. Looking forward to seeing more NL on the table. Jus a quick thing I don't think jetbike multi meltas are twin linked 🙂

[@SNBattleReports]

Are they not i'm very certain they are. Checked on BS now says they are might be wrong

[@alihalkett9954]

Yeah in the book they are just normal multi meltas 🙂

[@SNBattleReports]

@@alihalkett9954 Ive just checked they are twin linked

[@alihalkett9954]

The jetbikes? Where abouts are you seeing it haha 😅 I've got the book infront an it jus says multi melta? Is there somewhere else it says it?

[@SNBattleReports]

@@alihalkett9954 yeah multimelta has twin linked

[@lucaslisznianski6416]

Great battle report and amazing armies! The Sons of Horus look phenomenal! One game question. Dreadnoughts explode with Strength 8 so when the SoH dreadnought exploded then the SoH marines close by would not have feel no pains, no?

[@SNBattleReports]

Yes you are correct buddy

[@Grendelnz]

Very cool armies. Josh looks like hes late to teach an orphan girl called matilda to be an assassin,.

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks

[@14DEADSOUL]

Léon lookalike! Haha I see it now.

[@trajanthegreat2928]

1:34:00 With an explosion, it is S8 so no Feel No Pain against it, so the Sergeant would be dead.

[@SNBattleReports]

Yes correct buddy

[@ortegaja0704]

Great report!

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😊

[@Thedagda801]

Another classic, and fabulous battle report. ❤

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❤️

[@JasonPBury]

Lovely stuff! What parts is the Ultramarines Praetor made from?

[@SNBattleReports]

@fullcirclehobby is the artist

[@nikolajottesen7662]

Thanks for another great report.

[@SNBattleReports]

You are very welcome!

[@nikolajottesen7662]

@@SNBattleReports sure thing! Dont think about the bad tone, some people comment. We all make mistakes.. Keep it going. WIll join the SN plus soon.

[@davidpaterson2979]

Great bat rep, have been binging your heresy videos this week 🙂 I was wondering, where did you get the ruins in this video? Or are they custom made?

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks nice to here buddy. These ruins are from a Spanish company which sadly closed done long time ago

[@davidpaterson2979]

@@SNBattleReports that's a shame, thank you for the reply 🙂

[@Apocalypes773]

1:07:54 @SN Battle Reports to answer your question if you multi charge you are just disordered all the time so hold the line doesnt achieve much

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah we read it after game thanks boss

[@Apocalypes773]

@@SNBattleReports Enjoying picking through your heresy vids while painting, thanks guys

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@@Apocalypes773 ♥️

[@benjaminbrenner745]

beautiful armies, thank you!

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Thanks i

[@vladapatera123]

breachers are line and you skiped half a combat phase in turn 2

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah we were told! It’s awesome that Breachers are line ❤️ hope you enjoyed the game

[@ched---]

Buzzing for this. Beautiful armies as always guys!

[@SNBattleReports]

Enjoy

[@BadMoon7555]

at 14:07 - Do ruins give 5+ cover to tanks? I thouth tanks could only ever get a 6+?

[@SNBattleReports]

Ruins always 5+

[@BadMoon7555]

@@SNBattleReports Age of Darkness rulebook page 209 details how tanks do not treat cover the same as other models. - unless im missing something from a faq or errata?

[@ed8930]

you can get a 5+ if you can see the tank but cannot see the side in the arc you are facing/shooting, but otherwise it is only a 6+ for 25% or more being obscured

[@ed8930]

@@SNBattleReports only for infantry, vehicles are different with their own rules

[@Lord_Nielsen]

Hey i was wondering if the jetbikes are vehicles thank.

[@SNBattleReports]

No they are not Jesse

[@Lord_Nielsen]

@@SNBattleReports Thanks, i really want some in my iron hands list to make them tougher with medusa's scales!

[@tomrulz11]

Hey Quick rules question for scoring . When counting unit kills for points purposes separately . Do Spartans and Rhinos count if taken as transports for troops / elites ?

[@SNBattleReports]

Yes sir

[@tomrulz11]

@@SNBattleReports Great , thanks so much !

[@thexydis]

You forgot about the +1 to charge on the dreadnought from having 8" movement! That charge was successful

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah we had added it in already factoring it in to the total

[@thexydis]

@@SNBattleReports Oh apologies haha

[@Bigjonmetal]

And here we have it the most op army versus the Son's of Horus! Awesome armies these are beautiful and fluffy I'm glad to finally see the SoH.

[@SNBattleReports]

You think Ultramarines are OP? Realllyyy?

[@DirtyMardi]

Chuck some fulmentarus, locutarus and suzerains in there and it could become oppressive. Kudos on taking a weaker more balanced list. 👍

[@Bigjonmetal]

@@SNBattleReports its the special units they're all super underpriced. You were not using anything OP to be clear, but if you look at suzarins and fulmentarus they're insanely undercosted. The unique reaction is also insane when combined with heavy weapon squads

[@SNBattleReports]

@@DirtyMardi thanks 🙏🏽

[@SNBattleReports]

@@Bigjonmetal yeah those units are very strong

[@Rangey88]

Great game and fun lists!

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Champ!

[@thekohfamily895]

Where do you get those burning vehicle markers?

[@SNBattleReports]

Deadlyprintstudios

[@julekgorecki1102]

Wonderful battle report guys! Do you plan on featuring primarchs in the reports, in the future?

[@sn_dc]

For sure Julek! We have Morty, Bobby G and Perty in the studio and I’ll be painting up Lorgar soon! It’s more about expanding our current range to field good armies with the Primarchs and getting to grips with their rules etc for 2.0 😊 I’ve used Perty once and it was great

[@SNBattleReports]

We have Dorn in a batrep this coming Sunday!

[@julekgorecki1102]

@@sn_dc Wonderful! I suspected that you want to get accustomed to the 2nd edition rules fully, before taking out the big boys! I'm glad to hear that they are coming:)

[@CannibalKubi]

Why have the UM Catas a Grenade Harness, when there are mainly I1 weapons in it?

[@SNBattleReports]

Strict wysiwig

[@CannibalKubi]

@@SNBattleReports Ok. I am asking because it is the second time I saw this, the first time was in a -full fist- unit and the state of the army was "just a list". So I was confused if I missed something about the harness.

[@peters6345]

Great looking armies :)

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks Peter

[@Lord_Nielsen]

Great game, lovely armies!😎

[@SNBattleReports]

The best

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

SoH = awesome!

[@SNBattleReports]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[@coldpsyker1354]

Lovely armies, but is it just my colorblind ass or are the Sons of Horus dice impossible to read? Like the army is amazing, and I can appreciate it even with my moderate red/green colorblindness; but those dice are just impossible. Thank you Pardo for telling the audience what the guest has rolled lol!

[@joshhough9508]

They are a pain in the ass yeah. I sometimes can't see them properly when they are right in front of my eyes. They are very shiny

[@SNBattleReports]

Haha yeah the gold isn’t gold enough

[@paulbradley6941]

your playing cover saves for vehicles incorrectly 25% obscured is a 6+

[@jackbiggar1242]

Big up Joff

[@SNBattleReports]

🔥

[@vladapatera123]

multicharge is always disordered so no need for brace

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah thanks 🙏🏽

[@thedarkapostle6025]

Always sick beautiful armies on sexy tables ... thanks gents

[@SNBattleReports]

You are very welcome boss

[@hectorc7080]

Beautiful armies list!

[@SNBattleReports]

Glad you like them!

[@hectorc7080]

@@SNBattleReports The fact is: you are one of the few channels that play HH like a narrative game. Doing lists that are both incredible to see and fun to watch when they battle each other. Good work!

[@jameswilloughby4381]

Josh seems fun but he did look like a comic book burglar or baddie….. both beautiful armies did well

[@SNBattleReports]

He’s awesome

[@jameswilloughby4381]

Can we get josh back against Tc and Steven g

[@RevanR]

"We March for Macagge!" Honour and Courage brother Pardo

[@SNBattleReports]

Enjoy

[@randyoverland7221]

I don't know where you got the idea that you can only do one of each type of reaction per phase, but that is completely inaccurate. As long as the player has more than one reaction allotment in that phase and they are reacting with a separate unit, they can choose to do any of the vanilla reactions each time they react.

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah mistake on Pardos side. No idea what he was thinking 😂

[@eccentricbear]

Great game guys, nice to see SoH do well, the legion trait is excellent and so are the legion units (but pricey), but the legion weapons are absolute crap...

[@SNBattleReports]

I was actually looking at the legion weapons before and yes they are crap 😆

[@toysforthetoygod2671]

Why is Josh dressed like a french convict?

[@SNBattleReports]

Maybe he is one?

[@toysforthetoygod2671]

@@SNBattleReports merde

[@tdeidaratify]

You can make the same reaction more than once, p.159, but not with the same unit

[@SNBattleReports]

Yeah sorry mixed up there

[@juliodolmus5720]

Ouch

[@vladapatera123]

evade and cover stack

[@AirsoftAddicted]

First SoH victory I've seen on YT... since HH 2.0 was released. Amazing armies, great report. Keep up a good work!

[@SNBattleReports]

Spoiler alert please! Also the report has been out for 5mins and it’s two hours long how have you finished it hahaha 🤣

[@AirsoftAddicted]

@@SNBattleReports Please chill, no one believes in that! And pro tip - With right arrow button you can use "watch at office" mode so you can watch everything briefly. Of course, it's great to watch everything once more time at home. :)

[@Black_Blow_Fly]

Thanks for the spoiler you arse 😡🤬🤬🤬

[@SNBattleReports]

@@AirsoftAddicted 😂 ❤️

[@AirsoftAddicted]

@@SNBattleReports Seriously, seriously. You make one of the best channels on youtube. Professional reports, a lot of passion in what you do and beautiful models. Do not stop! :)

[@warpaintjj]

Tanking wounds on 2+ is bollocks. Just think about what that looks like from a narrative point of view….

[@SNBattleReports]

Agree

[@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073]

Pretty hilarious after being hit by a rocket, sarge jumps up, catches the rocket and tightly holds it in his arms.

[@GuyUnderTheBridge]

I was all settled into watching this batrep…until the narrator mentioned the Warmaster…it’s a damn HH game :( Waste of time. Now back to the search.

[@SNBattleReports]

Why is this our fault 😆

[@sn_dc]

Hi @GUTB what did you expect the outcome would be from this comment? It just honestly baffles me sometimes what people write in the comment section. I’m genuinely curious at this point 😂 The title says Horus Heresy, the thumbnail is Horus Heresy and Sons of Horus are only in Horus Hersey. If you’re not a fan of it, then that’s cool! No issues there it’s not for everyone - but why were you compelled to let us know it was a ‘waste of time’ ? Like it is our fault you’re not happy we didn’t make the content you specifically wanted (for free) And instead have taken the time to produce, record, edit this content for other people to enjoy? I just honestly don’t understand people’s compulsions to make sure they comment these kinds of things 😅 help me understand, probably never get an answer 👍

[@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073]

@@sn_dc At least it was the comment for the algorithm throne.

[@sn_dc]

@@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073 so true Filip! The Throne demands engagement!

[@Smokey_Bluntz]

Idk if you guys used this reaction in the game. I haven't finished watching yet, but what's your take on how death dealers' advanced reaction works? I've heard people saying that you are able to fire with any unit in your army so long as the unit that was shot at was within 12" of the attacking unit. I don't think that's correct, but I'm curious to see your guys take on it. Thanks, I love the battle reports. You guys have the greatest warhammer content.