Snorlax Solo Challenge - Pokémon FireRed

[@Silvitewolf]

Ironically i usually save your Friday videos till im in bed so this one seems strangely appropriate.

[@Eggsceptional]

Must... add.. "zzz".. to.. thumbnail!! Thanks :)

[@Silvitewolf]

​​@@Eggsceptional you did it you madlad

[@azurrayne4140]

I keep missing these, but still wanting to show my love and support. Thanks for all your hard work! You're doing great, and can't wait to see the next one!

[@Eggsceptional]

I really appreciate it!! We all lead busy lives. I'm sure I'll catch you more in the future :) Thanks for all of your support.

[@kangaskdan]

Great runs! Snorlax is such a chonk! And from a Hufflepuff to a Ravenclaw, I enjoyed the face stuff :D

[@Eggsceptional]

Bahahah. Blue and bronze life :) even if the movies went more silver

[@armaggedon390]

Thanks for the Eggcelent video as usual. I expected Belly Drum to be the real eggs-factor here, but I guess that low speed scrambled any chances of that happening. Maybe boosting moves aren't always all they're cracked up to be when you can use Water coverage.

[@Eggsceptional]

I was really thinking Belly Drum would solve my problems but.. nope. I'm not convinced I did this 100% correctly, but I couldn't see a faster path. I can't boost enough it seems 😅

[@elifretty1018]

I’ve commented before but now I get a guideline pop up neat, but thank you for uploading again I always enjoy your enthusiasm and rather up beat demeanor, I expected snorlax to be faster with it stats but I guess for solo challenges speed is everything

[@Eggsceptional]

Speed changes so many things about how a battle plays out for a solo 'mon. Snorlax was tougher than I expected to optimize. Thanks for the double comment :P I'll go see if the other popped up for me

[@hitmanx200]

Bro I’m so sick with food poisoning and basically laying in bed all day like a Snorlax, except I’m barely able to eat or drink. Thanks for uploading, these videos always give me peace of mind.

[@Eggsceptional]

Thanks, I'm glad these videos can help you through! Food poisoning suuuuucks. I hope you're feeling a bit better 12 hours later.

[@hitmanx200]

@@Eggsceptional feeling much better now thanks dude

[@Flaris]

Good run. I honestly thought with belly drum that Snorlax would have a pretty great time. But speed (and obviously a few other things) are the difference for how effective it was between him and Charizard. Plus between that and Double Edge, Snorlax was as much of a pro at injuring himself as his opponents were! Still, nice that some time got saved on that second run. Found a good path through it.

[@Eggsceptional]

Thank you! I'm still not convinced this was the correct path, but I feel it was faster than the alternates I could come up with. I was hoping Belly Drum would be a cure-all too... nope :)

[@Turbomaniac-_-]

Yet another great video. I really thought Belly Drum was gonna be the win button, but that base 30 speed really hindered them. Can't wait for the next stream and video. Have a great weekend!

[@Eggsceptional]

I really thought so, too. Not today! Thank you :) See you at the next one, enjoy your weekend!!

[@Snif007]

Hi! Nice run! Those slow Pokémon seem to be difficult to solo run! You did a great job.

[@Eggsceptional]

Slow Pokémon going for fast completion times. What could go wrong? Thanks :)

[@ilovegarradors]

Glad to see another challenge video from you! :D I was starting to wonder if you were still going to release normal challenge videos. They'd all been streams for a good while, and streams are far too long for me.

[@Eggsceptional]

There were 4 weeks of Stardew content with FR streams, but I've been alternating weeks since. Miltank V Tauros and Lapras were the recent produced Poké-runs before this one :) Challenge content isn't going anywhere, I just need breaks from it to keep me interested 😅

[@Aaron.Seabolt]

Eggsceptional face reveal. Bro looks happy and I love the energy you bring with your channel.

[@Eggsceptional]

Thank you :) I can't help but be eggscited about things!

[@DigdugDak908]

Snorlax is my favorite Normal type of all time. I use him every chance I get in any game and I'm STILL surprised how deep his movepool is. He's simply one of the best.

[@Eggsceptional]

Those Gen 1 Normal type movepools there's just no beating them. I'm not sure if he's my fave Normal type ever, but def up there. Snorlax is one of my all time faves :) Thanks!

[@jackruby6696]

God I would love to take a nap right now. Wild how snorelax doesn’t learn the slack off move

[@Eggsceptional]

You should take a nap for Baymax! He barely snoozed all in that first run..

[@xlatheblackdragon705]

Red health bar strst 😮 baymax big brain speedrun strat!!😮 Also I trust you Baymax since your professional :) 37:55

[@Eggsceptional]

Yeaaaaah red bar strats and no Curse. I will be re-doing this run in the future. Same Baymax. New power :D

[@xlatheblackdragon705]

@@Eggsceptional looking forward to it!!!

[@CapnWilly]

The big sleepy boy is one of my favorites. Curious to see what moveset you'll go with - Snorlax is so versatile.

[@Eggsceptional]

I definitely feel like I messed this one up. I streamed a Curselax shortly after releasing this video and there was a lot more potential. D'oh!

[@CapnWilly]

@Eggsceptional lol. It happens. Still a good video!

[@MeteorManTGP]

The perfect thing to watch while im stuck in bed sick

[@Eggsceptional]

Oh no! I hope you feel better soon.

[@MeteorManTGP]

@@Eggsceptional I just need a good *rest* and i'll be right as rain and hopefully build up an *immunity*

[@PabloNeves26]

Nice alliteration before Erika! 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@Eggsceptional]

I realized it had been far too long since I alliterated :) Thanks!

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

7:44 for that alliteration before erika 19:57 for the onixiseseseses 25:23 and 25:29 for the brunononono 39:17 ooooo 69 nice

[@Eggsceptional]

Heheh always appreciate the time stamps of my shenaniganses :)

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

@@Eggsceptional shenaniganinininins lol

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

​@@Eggsceptionalshenaniganininins lol

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

Also: swords danceseseses and onixiseseseses and steelixeseseses and farfetch'deseseses and carboseseses and Gyaradoseseseses

[@Eggsceptional]

@@adventureoflinkmk2 I sat here for way too long trying to remember another before coming up empty 😅

[@MisterVictini]

It’s been a while since I commented last, but great video like usual! Admittedly I don’t think Snorlax was going to be the behemoth it was due to its poor speed, but I guess it wasn’t as big of an issue since the bulk more than made up for it. I’m curious to how differently it might have gone if Munchlax was available here- though I’m sure by late game it wouldn’t matter anyway.

[@Eggsceptional]

I'm still not convinced I had this 100% correct, but hopefully it was the fastest path. Being able to sit there taking damage was such a saving factor for the big teddy. I feel if Munchlax was included it would just make for a slower early game 😅

[@Shawnzy1]

Yaaas king , the one that I I’ve been waiting for

[@Eggsceptional]

I hope it was worth the wait :)

[@Eggsceptional]

I hope it was worth the wait :) Thanks!

[@Shawnzy1]

@@Eggsceptional hell ya brother

[@realperson69]

Considering the trouble you had with Fire and Ice moves from Blaine, Lorelei, and the Champion, did you consider Thick Fat? Or does Snorlax’s low speed cause you to take too many poison attacks and lead to a lot of lost time through the early and midgame? Were you ever missing ranges with Water Pulse, Psychic, and/or Surf? You could try a speed-lowering nature like Brave or Relaxed. Are there any critical outspeeds that you’d lose? Maybe Bruno’s Machamp? Adamant is another nature I’d be curious about, not knowing the ranges you’re dealing with. And of course one must still wonder about Curse. The safer setup might save time in the long run, and Mega Kick might serve as the same sort of tactical nuke as Double Edge.

[@Eggsceptional]

I had considered Thick Fat, but Immunity felt more useful, more often. Lorelei has Water moves too after all! I have a knack for being poisoned... I rarely missed ranges with my special moves which is why I stayed Impish in the second run. I actually just re-ran this on stream (recent Jynx stream), and I was wrong about this one. Curselax felt like it held a LOT more potential, despite the streamed run being slower.

[@realperson69]

@@Eggsceptional Curse is a real nuisance to optimize, so I don't begrudge you for not going too deep on it... for now. Not only do you need to know the correct number to kill your opponents the fastest, but you also need to know when the defense boosts are helpful, when the extra turns (combined with low speed) expose you to too many hits and crits, and when there's a close match in speed you have to decide whether to go for the outspeed or surrender to Curse. Just one more argument to ban Curse. Somehow makes things both too easy AND too complicated. XD

[@Eggsceptional]

@@realperson69 I likely won't ever ban Curse. I'm way too in love with boosting moves :D Except Double Team... After doing the Curselax run my idea surrounding time saves in the gym challenges crumbled when I saw how much better Curse was in the leagues. A bit more planning sure, but probably a MUCH better run overall.

[@tommasozoppi6352]

My feeling is that snorlax needs rest. Since it cures statuses you can also go with thick fat for blaine and lorelei. Also, curse could replace belly drum, in association with a -sp.atk +sp.def nature. Something like bodyslam rest curse and brick break/shadow ball may work.

[@Eggsceptional]

In my runs I am always going for the fastest completion time, not necessarily the best Snorlax set. That said, I'm not convinced I had this one 100% correct. I feel Double Edge as an egg move saved the most time through the gym challenge, relying on Rest and heavy set up in the leagues. Curse lowered Snorlax's speed and the speed of the run overall. But I could be wrong!

[@Karl-bc2os]

Can you take a page out of Scott’s thoughts overlay. The real time calculation on moves effective power is so much more useful than ignoring the list of tms that no one cares about

[@Eggsceptional]

Once I figure out how it all works, I plan on it! It's interesting that you dislike the learnset on screen. It was always something I liked. Thanks for the feedback :)

[@harbour08]

Picture if he had drain punch in later generations 😮 no wonder hariyama didn't get it for the longest

[@Eggsceptional]

Oh gosh... That would be a force to be reckoned with. Now I'm looking ahead to more of thoae Gen 4 runs..... 😅 Thanks!

[@jamesgrenier8856]

Snorlax is honestly still my favorite Pokemon, there are others that come close but Snorlax is the one.

[@Eggsceptional]

I love Snorlax, despite routing him hurting my brain a bit. This big teddy will forever be among my faves.

[@rjagad]

I hope for more pokemon videos.

[@Eggsceptional]

As long as you keep watching, I'll keep making them :)

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

I wonder what a curse set wouldve been like

[@Eggsceptional]

I'm wondering myself. I didn't test it at all during the gym challenge after determining it wasn't better than what I did in the leagues. Add this the the list of runs that I'll be second guessing until I re-run it 😅

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

@@Eggsceptional should've done a Belly drum vs curse race

[@Eggsceptional]

@@ShukakuTheCrazy1 I've got that one written down. Ahh... time. This video was already over 50 mins long, a VS wouldn't have come out in time 😅

[@MusicHavenSG]

Next one to try, Aggron!

[@Eggsceptional]

Aggron has been on my mind a long time! Great suggestion, thanks!

[@bateltheassistant]

Snorlax is one strong and heavy bear. With belly drum on it's moveset and stab return, it's a very heavy powerhouse. The two things that may slow it down are the growth rate and that awful speed. The slow growth rate made you consider taking optional battles in the mid game especially,but made Snorlax have better results in both rounds of the league.😊 Slow growth rate pokemon usually need some extra grinding to get by the end game safely. Even though it's final results were neck in neck the swift mentis ,Sycther, that's kind of gen 1 magic added in the end, especially with sub strats on top.😂😂😂

[@Eggsceptional]

Snorlax was super tough to route! I feel so many people think I did it wrong because they're focused on what a good Snorlax looks like, not a fast solo one. I'm not saying I 100% got it right, but I think this was the fastest path? If Scyther didn't get that egg move I feel things would be much different 😅 Gosh... that's another run I'd love redoing.

[@bateltheassistant]

@@Eggsceptional Snorlax is a great team player in competitive and in nuzlockes,but being a slow pokemon with a slow growth rate can make a lot of time losses ,if you can't figure out how to route the mid game right, I know because I'm first hand experiencing that with my runs in general 😂. I believe that curse could have been a great egg move as well but I don't think that it could produce better results.🤔 A scyther with silver wind could be interesting .

[@Eggsceptional]

@@bateltheassistant Absolutely agree! Yesterday on stream after clearing the Jynx run we decided to tackle a Curselax run. I think I got this one wrong 😅Scyther (1 yr ago?) with Silverwind was my first choice, but Brock. Reversal turned that from a.. 10? 15 min? split into er..

[@bateltheassistant]

@@Eggsceptional Reversal will be only useful for brock , because you can use steel wing which can raise your defense. But I wonder if it's even obtainable before the post game?🤔 Reversal sounds good on paper, it's better to make a good use of swarm, and get a 50% boost to your stab bug move throughout the run, because Scyther is learning a stab move only in the late 40s,if I recall correctly.🤔

[@Eggsceptional]

@@bateltheassistant Steel Wing? Yes, it's available in the Safari Zone (second last area before the Surf hut). I don't see it available as an egg move :( It pretty much boiled down to Silver Wind or Reversal for me. Reversal won, though the potential for a bunch of omniboosts was calling... At 46 it learns Fury Cutter which at that point in the game? ...maaaaybe? I love this started with talking about Snorlax

[@135forte]

Hyper offense Lax seems an odd choice for a solo run. With your concerns about defense, Curse seems like the smarter play. Not very flexible if you take Rest for extra consistency, but you could probably stretch Water Pulse long enough to not need Surf.

[@Eggsceptional]

The goal was to get through the game as fast as possible. After testing the leagues, I felt that Double Edge saved more time over Curse during the gym challenge. DE gave me sooo many 1 shots/ ranges I wouldn't have otherwise had. I'm not positive though! This one still has me scratching my head

[@135forte]

@@Eggsceptional Speed vs consistency is always an issue and is one of the bigger arguments in the solo run community from what I can see. It's the official reason why Double Team sees so little use, it's not consistent enough despite getting lower game times and even real times. It's also bad for views, but that tends to be the quite part.

[@Eggsceptional]

@@135forte It's true, I tend to avoid Double Team because it's boring. Sure, I jump on the Sub train plenty, but at least there's times when it's counter productive to have. I've got Curselax earmarked to check out in the future, either in another release down the line or on stream. Or both :D

[@jdsnerdverse]

When I did my playthrough of pokémon Blue with Snorlax I also called it baymax.

[@Eggsceptional]

How did I not remember this 😅 Great minds think alike, eh?

[@xlatheblackdragon705]

BAYMAXX😆😆😆ahaha what an appropriate name

[@Eggsceptional]

Falalalala! :)

[@Joonesyy]

❤

[@Eggsceptional]

[@jptheflipper3825]

Eggcellent sir Eggcellent and interesting. your love of boosting moves especially belly drum seems to have gone a different way here. Snorlax on the face of it seems so perfect for it with its already massive physical attack stat and bulk especially the HP and yet its seems to have far worse use of it especially compared to Charizard when you used it for the egg move. I think it was a matter of speed that decided that one. Charizard is not as bulky but it is quick and out sped most of the game and thus would only take one hit after setting up instead of one before and one after, thats the difference, its not the Snorlax wasn't good, it was simply taking too many hits in exchange for that set up and more afterwards. with that in mind, I am almost tempted to say try again, but instead of double edge for the egg move, have curse and go for a relaxed or sassy nature both of which reduce the speed but increase with the defense or special defense, really lean into the fact that Snorlax will not out speed anything and just go for max bulk and attack, through in some recovery and it will not matter that it is slow. overall I'd say Snorlax went very well, I know you had been looking forward to using one for a run to using double edge to see how good a recoil move could be in a run and I think the sleepy bear made very good use of it despite the recoil. 1st run of course there were teething problems, thats how it goes, but the 2nd run was quite superb. there are possibilities for it though, we talked in the chat about rollout and defense curl and do think it could work and I also think leaning into that special move pool a little more for the sake of coverage and dealing with the big defenders. surf for onix and steelix and psychic for weezings I think was a very good move on your part and worked nicely for you. its a shame Amnesia doesn't boost special attack in Gen 3 like in Gen 1, I think you'd have fun with that. Snorlax is a tricky one like that, BWT HP ghost, very nice choice, a little more risky as you need the TM10 from pickup but so much cheaper than shadow ball. you'll like this, in Gen 3 it gets shadow ball, in Gen 4 it gets crunch, as if to replace its physical damage from the split. there are so many possibilities with it because of its stat spread and its movepool, who knows, if you ever run it again, and I hope you do, you could do completely different sets every time and cone out a winner with each. all of that being said, I think if and when you try belly drum Clefable or even calm mind clefable, you will do better, purely because you have similar bulk and attacks and move pool but you will have more speed, which will make a difference as you will outside more and take less hits and have a better chance to use that set up. I'll be trying that myself shortly after Raichu is done. maybe breed a belly drum Clefable to see how it compares in the R2 with calm mind. Raichu is going, I have just evolved it and the difference is profound, without light ball, Pikachu might be fast but it is super frail and doesn't hit nearly hard enough, but with Raichu you effectively double all your stats except speed so it is bulkier and hits harder physically than light ball Pika. I know you tried Riachu with Scott not long ago, but I think doing a proper run with it and an egg move or maybe surf will demonstrate the difference between evolving and broken held item.

[@Eggsceptional]

Thank you, thank you. My love of boosting moves seems to have finally led me astray a bit. Charizard was way easier to use Belly Drum with. One turn of pain, then a sweep usually. Snorlax was getting pummeled too much. After some thinking I figured that Double Edge saved way more time over the gym challenge than Curse would have in the leagues. I could be wrong! Curse in the leagues could have been a lot nicer to use for sure. Oh man.. If Amnesia boosted a mixed stat in Gen 3 like in Gen 1 this run would have been absurd. Probably no physical set up, just STAB coverage with Amnesia and BeamBolt or something. Getting rid of the STAB for recovery by the league likely. Hmmm... I wonder how hard it would be to change the effect of Amnesia to +2 SpA/SpD instead of just SpD? More things to write down and pursue next time I have time for Snorlax. Physical Crunch would have been incredible too. I have Snorlax earmarked to re-explore on stream sometime (I want to give the run time to stew for a while). I think Belly Drum/Calm Mind Clef might have to happen sooner than later. I've been itching to play it since I first ran Clefairy/able as my... 6th video? Something like that. Running fully evo'd Clefable phys VS spec would be so fun. I was just looking at the movepools the other day and thinking about how I'd do it. I think my standard ruleset with Raichu, going HP Water over Surf would be just fine. I think it'd do quite well, but again I want to give the run time to stew before jumping back in.

[@jptheflipper3825]

@@Eggsceptional it did seem that way, its a similar problem Chansey and Blissey has, have all that HP and Special defense, but a break break or a low kick will KO and a good deal of physical moves are likely to do the same especially in the R2, Curse would of been better for that alone as you kept your attack boost (which is not entirely ended with that base attack) and adds to the defense which is definitely needed, I suggest defense curl for the same reason, the boost to rollout is a side bonus to that. I think you need to have a chat with Dan or Scott on that one, that I think is a matter of adding a line of code or something long those lines, but keep in mind, doing that so it boosts Snorlax may mean it boosts anything else with Amnesia gets the same, Lorelei's Slobro for example might become a menace. you'll like Gen 4 Snorlax, it is a beast and it does get to enjoy the new movepools and physical special split beautifully. give it some time to think on it, Snorlax has possibilities after all. its has been a long time since your 1st Clef vid, back in the way back when I used to leave a simple Eggcellent as a comment. you have learnt much in that time and I think Clef is ready and so are you for a revisit, you love of sub strats and boosting moves will mean clef whether it is physical or special will be a beastly run. I have a feeling special will come out on top despite the lack of movepool for the early game to make best use of it, but once it has it, it will gain a lot of time and I dare say a lot less resets compared to belly drum. there is something to consider with the belly drum variant; Clefables opening moveset is its whole moveset so belly drum will only boost pound against Brock and you're likely have to rely on metronome luck for Brock. also Clefable has a pre-evolution move in fire red and leaf green only in the form of magical leaf which it gets from Clefla, this might serve as a substitute to an egg move for special clef. just a thought. I can report back on Raichu as I have finished my run with it. I had to settle for HP grass which was only really useful for ground and rock types up until the league and then it dropped off a little. water would of been better, but I think ice is a good 2nd option. I will warn also, if you start a raichu run as a pikachu, it will suffer without a light ball, its why I suggest surfing Pikachu or raichu as Brock is beyond rough without it or any kind of coverage for ground types. I will also say now, the added bulk that Raichu has is helpful but tanking an earthquake is still a foolish dream for the pudgy electric mouse so be prepared for pain in the R2. on the plus side, you do get to use items more freely with raichu as there is no light ball for it and its physical set is better thanks to the higher attack. on a side note, I will be running clef now to see how it runs with a special set and if it goes well I shall breed a physical one with belly drum and test it against the R2 like I did with special Parasect to see how it compares.

[@Eggsceptional]

@@jptheflipper3825 After the stream yesterday, yep. I think I got this one wrong. Curselax showed a lot more potential I feel. Snorlax and every other run. Gen 4 is calling for sure. Also, I've been slightly stuck on my use of the word "shallow" when I commented on you say that people needed an outlet. Not the best word choice. I apologize if it came across badly. I can be a bit.. blunt sometimes. I'm sure it would be an easy enough thing to update in the code. Probably :P I don't think Slowbro would be scary at all. Probably set up on Dewgong and just 1 shot it. For Clef, I only want to diverge from egg moves if there aren't any. I do agree though I think both runners might be relying on Metronome to get through Brock. I'm thinking about Belly Drum Double Slaps. What a concept. Good points on Raichu! I think that LB Pika will likely happen before another Pika -> Rai video. Or starting as Rai. I have no illusions about Brock unless I go with Surf as well. Or R2 EQs.. So.. many... I'll be interested in your Clef results because, as revealed on stream, we're pretty much playing these runs at the same time. You never have to apologize to me for a late reply. I'm the king of late replies

[@jptheflipper3825]

@@Eggsceptional I was surprised at how well Jynx ran yesterday, I thought it being so swishy and frail would be its downfall for much of the run, but it seemed to power throuh very nicely, I am interested in how the optimized runs will go for the trio, I still think Electabuzz could pull forward for the win, but I wouldn't be shocked if Magmar somehow comes out of nowhere for the win. don't worry about it egg man, all is ok. I am a cynic when it comes to social media, I don't think of it as very social, honestly your streams are the most social thing I see online most of the time. you'll figure it out, should be interesting to see how it works out. to be fair, I think Annie C in the chat had the right idea about the special boost for Snorlax, it has that special movepool, you might as well make use of it, given if thats means a little a tampering with the code. thats fair enough, can't deny though, magical leaf would be a lot of fun for much of the early game and make Brock and Misty very easy or at the least not a nightmare. you are going to have so much fun and so much pain with metronome, I have had some odd moves with it so far. I used it to grind my Clefable up to a decent level for start of its run (Also got lucky as mine had HP water and was holding a moon stone when I caught it so instant evo) and I got all kinds of moves, arm thrust and blaze kick, fire blast and 2 hi jump kicks, icy winds and razor leafs, all attacking moves as well. I hope you have the same luck and I will make sure to report my findings with a special Fable. I'm not sure how bad Brock might be Pika with no without a light ball, but I strongly suggest having surf for at least one of the runs as it will save you maybe 20-30 minutes to the run, Pikachu is fast, so Onix will be rock tombing as soon as possible and tanking one is not likely and getting any kind of set up that might help it will take time, it will likely be a luck based run until you get past Brock at maybe level 20+. you're a busy boy, you are always forgiven for being late, I am English and much like Canadians I am obligated to be polite and apologize

[@Eggsceptional]

@@jptheflipper3825 I'm with you, I think it would be a biiiig surprise to me if Magmar somehow pulled ahead. After playing Jynx I'm pretty sure it's going to be down to the wire between Jynx and Buzz. Squishy be darned! That's fair enough, I tend to be pretty cynical towards social media as well. As I strive to become a content creator. But that feels different to me! I'm sure another Snorlax video featuring a Curselax VS Gen 1 Amnesia could be a possibilty! I remember with Chansey lately just how insane Metronome can be. I didn't expect NEARLY that many resets on Brock. I was about to blame luck.. but you know. Metronome. The Fable of Clef will be told soon enough :D If I recall in Yellow I always got through Brock with Pikachu at level 15. But that's when Double Team was available I can't remember if that learnset was Yellow exclusive. Gross, but not as gross as using it in the leagues. You have to respect the British/Canadian way. Out in public, a stranger bumps into you. Oh sorry!

[@weebrahim]

He's just like me

[@Eggsceptional]

1014 lbs!? I'm not even mad. I'm impressed.

[@weebrahim]

@@Eggsceptional a silly sleepy boi :D

[@chrisjoseph3883]

Curse is a million times better set up than belly drum belly drum halves your hp even with a sitrus berry you still lose a bunch of HP and since youre slow youll lose even more... curse is a way better set up move for snorlax... its weaker on physical defense and already special bulky... plus you hit harder... curse + body slam + earthquake + rest is all you need to make snorlax sweep through teams... ghost types with levitate do pose a threat ie gengar but you get shadow ball via tm to handle those.... and thats all you need

[@Eggsceptional]

In my runs, I am going for the fastest completion time, not necessarily the best Snorlax set. I feel Double Edge saved so much time through the gym challenge that taking Curse wasn't worth it for the leagues. I could be wrong, though! Thanks for your input :)

[@Krispizz]

Oh my god how did I miss this, snorlax is my favorite!

[@Eggsceptional]

It happens! I definitely goofed this one though it isn'ty proudest run.

[@aryana1879]

Hi :)

[@Eggsceptional]

Hai :D

[@Andre217]

​@@Eggsceptional ik this is 2 months old , but couldn't of you gotten leftovers earlier? By using your itemfinder where the wild snorlax was by the cycling road?

[@Eggsceptional]

@@Andre217 I don't pick up Leftovers earlier because of the requirement for 30 species caught. By Round 2 it's assumed that you have 60, whereas earlier in the game Snorlax would have had to go catching for them losing more time.

[@Andre217]

@@Eggsceptional yes I totally forgot you need to catch 30 then talk to oaks aide. I understand that's very counterintuitive when you're going for speed such a shame you don't just get as a gift like gen 2 that would of helped a lot