Altering the offset on big fat tractor wheels

[@warbirdwf]

I love the attention to detail to get it right the first time. So many people do things half assed because they are lazy. Nice to see someone take pride in their work! Good job!

[@noahingram8052]

Eh

[@rudyrivera7426]

True words!!

[@rudyrivera7426]

A great job! Thanks for sharing! 👌👍

[@Heretic_Dezign]

I wouldn't say its taking pride, it's more like having the self discipline and ability to do the job properly, too many only "think" they are good at what they try to do

[@kindabluejazz]

One of my favorite things about your work is seeing the jigs you come up with - the way you suspended that hub with the box sections and clamps was just brilliant! Thanks for letting us watch you work this stuff out.

[@Snargfargle]

Good work! I always hated dismounting and mounting tractor tires. I worked on farms when I was younger. It can be pretty hard work at times, and long hours, especially if you have livestock to take care of. I joined the Army for an easier job. It wasn't, but at least I didn't have to work cattle anymore. I like eating them but I don't like raising them.

[@warrenjones744]

Nothing wrong with that Oliver. I do like your quick and easy fixture to get the offset where you want it and your method to get the wobbly's out. Well done👍

[@snowballengineering]

Thanks!

[@IvyMike.]

Considering the size of the wheel, I am impressed that you got the runout down to that, well done sir!!

[@snowballengineering]

Thanks!

[@ralphyoung5443]

You said you were not paying attention, I disagree. If you weren't paying attention you would you have welded the center in upside down. Nice Job keep up the great work . I'm rooting for you kid.

[@gav2759]

Nothing on the box tonight, to compete with a bit of gouging and welding....Thanks for posting.

[@snowballengineering]

Thanks for watching!

[@sonicbluecoupe]

The jigs you make to help you do the job, is sometimes more interesting to me than the job. 👍🏻

[@mr_b_hhc]

Taking the tyre off really added a lot of time to the job but it was absolutely the correct thing to do, nice to see someone take the time to do it once and do it right.

[@chrisbailey459]

I’m looking forward to the book/video of 101 use,s of a set of forks that the forklift maker never listed in the sales pamphlets. Good work mate.

[@PaddyGun]

The older style 2 piece wheels on tractors were a great job, not suitable for heavy, heavy work but having 4 offsets that you could change with an impact gun and a bit of grunt in brilliant

[@stuartbridger5177]

Found your channel via Paul & Hedley. The Silent Pool is close to where I grew up and is a magical place. The gin is excellent as well. Alas the legend was a Victorian invention to encourage tourism. It certainly worked.

[@BruceBoschek]

Excellent job. I was delighted to learn how you got the centres on straight! Thanks for another excellent video.

[@colinm.7962]

Enjoyed that. You're always trying to show us something different each video. Definitely a tricky one. Well done you.👍

[@nighttrain1450]

Having spent many years site welding in all sorts of contorted angles to get to the job my heart goes out to your back. That had to hurt.👏👏

[@ianbrooks6816]

Bigger hammer! Bigger grinder! Great watching you skilled fabrication

[@terryh8421]

It would have been interesting to see the original runout.Impressive what you achieved!

[@petegraham1458]

Nice to see your Dad, you should introduce him , I often see him in the background. Looks like a nice dog who came to watch too. Nice job on the wheel rims !

[@SimonHollandfilms]

interesting to see how you worked out how to do it. good job.

[@ncut5547]

Awesome job again ...I do miss my 9inch angle grinder moved to Canada 15yrs ago don't seem to have the same stuff as back in the uk ...thks again for your videos they always give some new way of doing stuff thks ...

[@NOELTM]

Fair play to you for sharing with us the centre upside hiccup. You could have edited it out and we wouldn't have known. Seems to me no workshop can be without the essential equipment, of a big hammer and a lump of wood for those tasks requiring "persuasion". I was wondering how "out of true" the wheel rims may have been before you cut the centres out. Maybe you have given them back to the customer with a tighter tolerance than you received them! Great job thanks for bringing us along.

[@jonathanodell9507]

Oliver ain’t no fool, good job. This young gentleman has a very creative thinking problem solving mind. So good to see in a younger person.

[@snowballengineering]

I love the problem solving! Best part of the job for me. 😁

[@trojanorse]

That forklift makes a great mobile workbench.

[@dhewitt2514]

Definitely the right decision to remove the tyre. Three guys were killed near me while welding a brake drum on a partially deflated scraper tyre.

[@RambozoClown]

I'm surprised you didn't put your 200mm spacers on the floor then set the rim over them, so your weld would have been facing up. Good catch on that flipped center. That would have been a bad day.

[@gerryoneill8881]

Good problem solving there, well done.

[@yeagerxp]

Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Take care of yourself 🇨🇦

[@jimlong527]

Excellent welds, we see you can do it all. Thanks for the video.

[@TheGrimReaper1]

It’s a good job you are wearing that air filter helmet, those shipyard welders during the war should have had something like that.

[@Dmenbiker]

Amazing... You figuring out the steps and process to reconfigure the wheel rims... I did not know silicone was used to seal the weld bead... Seems I learn stuff on each of your videos... Thanks...

[@NICK-uy3nl]

Seems like the PLASMA CUTTER would have done much cleaner job than arc gouging ?

[@kenwood8665]

It’s an absolute pleasure to watch your video

[@bostedtap8399]

Great job as always, removing those tyres was a pain. Thanks for sharing

[@snowballengineering]

Thanks for watching!

[@1500SCHLUTER]

Very good job .what ever you charge for this kind of service its well earned hard work. I did a lot of this sort of work back in the day at least your looking after your lungs an angle grinder is a dirty tool. Keep up the good work.

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday, I think you did a good job getting the centre squared up as close as you did, probably closer the it was originally when you see how they are made, great job mate, cheers

[@snowballengineering]

Thanks Matty, hope you’re doing alright!

[@AllanWild-k3o]

As always great attention to detail and a job well donw. Look forward to the next job.

[@ianm1470]

Another interesting project ~ the alignment and concentricity was dam near perfect ~ well done and thanks for posting 👍🏻

[@snowballengineering]

Many thanks!

[@kristoffscuba5466]

Awesome video. Would have been great to see how much the run out is on the standard wheel before you changed the offset. Wonder how true they are from factory?

[@BackyardMechCon]

Definitely the right call to take off the tyre. The heat itself from the gouging would cause the air to expand inside the tyre and it could potentially explode. Good job! 😊

[@warrenjones744]

Somewhere on You Tube there is an old video that a tire company made showing why you should dismount the tire when welding. Blowing your head off was the number one reason. Good call Oliver

[@jimrankin2583]

Wheels of fire kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHO4h62deK17q6M

[@bobalobmitchell]

Search for tyre pyrolysis explosion

[@benediktpaul157]

While you are right about the pressure I always just let the air out. Never bothered to take the tire off and never had a problem with anything. Just make sure it's not a tubed tire xD

[@allenbrown7820]

Well done on trueing the wheels up. Reminded me of trueing up wedge lock rims on JD 4020. Set a spray can beside the wheel and roll it over tightening the bolts to get it even. I was yelling at the phone when I seen the second center upside down!😂 I had faith you would see before you welded it. Don’t blame you for sending the wheels back without the tires on them. Save the customer money 😁. Great video! Be Safe!

[@dirtfarmer7472]

I’ve got a question, would it work if you just turned the wheels around put them on inside out. Not mess with all this other stuff.

[@snowballengineering]

No. The offset is one extreme to the other if you did that. Me and the customer are not daft, we’d have done that otherwise.

[@MrDanWhalley]

Out of curiosity why didn't you make a spacer to go in-between the wheel and the tractor to space it out the distance required?

[@turnerscorner9516]

Likened your honesty with your work.

[@carloskawasaki656]

Thank you for sharing, I learn a lot, I enjoy your project 👍👍👍👍

[@TheoNolanIsles]

Hey mate, thanks for your videos, they're good stuff and I like the way you approach and clearly think about jobs. I've got a bit of a tip for you if you're interested about using heavy hammers, or more accurately how to reduce having to use them.... first off, I'm 6'4" and 120kg, and I'm not built for using sledge hammers either - Nobody is. So, the thing about hammers is that when you use a hammer you're always actually using two: there's the hammer, and there's the thing you're hammering against which is a dolly or anvil or forklift tine or whatever. The thing you're hammering against has a bigger effect than the hammer, it's hitting back at the same time as you are hammering. In this video you hammer out the centre after gouging with the rim sitting on the forklift tines. If you look at the video you can see how you're wasting a huge amount of energy by just bending the tines, which is effectively the same as having a spring between your hammer and the workpiece. If you lower the tines so they're on the ground then more of the energy from the hammer will be focused into the join you're trying to break and I guarantee you'll need a fraction of the hammering for the same work. One other tip is that moving the hammer twice as fast quadruples the energy, whereas doubling the weight of the hammer only doubles the force. So if you can use a hammer half the weight but swing it twice as fast, you'll be doubling the force of your hit. Hope you get some use out of the tip, and thanks again.

[@SamTheBalerMan]

Great advice!

[@hornetboy3694]

Awesome video, thank you Oliver. Great work

[@Hey_Its_That_Guy]

I bet those rims were out by quite a bit before you took them apart. Like you said so well, it's a tractor, not a Ferrari. Top work, Ollie!

[@gbentley8176]

Real witches cauldron job. Well done indeed, excellent.

[@alanrichardson1672]

Bit of a chew that one but you pulled it off marvellously. Great video, great techniques for truing the wheel, not many would tackle a job like that. Well done. 👍👍

[@garethdavies3220]

Pleased to see that you removed the tyre , as W.Jones also commented , it's possible to get a runaway fire or reaction inside a wheel and tyre with catastrophic results. More people should be made aware of this , as I was untill a few years ago. Great video as always Oliver.

[@snowballengineering]

I have done one before with the tyre on, luckily nothing happened but I’ve since learnt the damages! Thanks!

[@allenbrown7820]

Have an idea for the next video. Fabricate a stand for the rotary table so it can adjust to a vertical position so you don’t have to stand on your head to weld. I do admire your will to get the job done right though. Keep up the good work and Be Safe.

[@josephwaldner7752]

are those some new forks on the forklift

[@normesmonde5332]

Great problem solving mate 🇦🇺

[@mattybean4039]

Good work right there, always a pain getting them to run true again after moving the centres 👌

[@alc818]

Nice job!!! Good Idea mounting the wheel center on a spare hub! Hindsight is always easier... But, I might have done that before I started just to get a baseline for how far out of center it was and how much it wobbled when I received it. I also might have tried mounting the wheel on the spare hub and securing the edge of the rim to the table while I air arced out the wheel center. With the wheel secured in that fashion it may have been easier to "float" the wheel center in place and use spacers on the hub to create the required offset... Once it was tacked securely, welding it out like you did was just like having a rotary positioner...

[@thepagan5432]

Very interesting, I thought the hub would have been welded from both sides, just shows what thought does. I used to moan changing a tyre on my motorcycle, those tyres on the tractor were beasts. Thanks for the post, enjoyed it. Keep well 👍

[@davetaylor4741]

Lot of work to offset two wheels. But nicely done. So many of those big front wheel tractors come out the factory with the wheels hitting the tractor at full lock. Years ago had a brand new County. Chewed into itself every time you took a tight turn. Ie. Only one football field. Some manufacturers get over this by making the wheels lean out as you turn. Whichever it is a problem you don't get with the small 2WD tractor wheels.

[@innertubemac]

💥great video 👍the arc gouged better on the second rim , it burnt of less paint on the outside . Thicker rod or your technique improved , nice one Mr Snowball.

[@medziuks]

Thanks for the video! Is there a chance for a Q&A video?

[@MrMrWrench]

Good work. Thanks for the video and your time.

[@mikekelly7506]

Excellent job you never know if you'd checked those rims before cutting the centre out they might have already been out.

[@timtim2451]

really enjoy your videos. good job. hope your channel grows fast soon. greets from germany

[@jameskirby2604]

Good to watch. You made it look easy.

[@snowballengineering]

Thanks 👍

[@peterwooldridge7285]

20,000+ subscribers, and you can understand why...great video, cheers

[@snowballengineering]

Thanks!

[@art1muz13]

Greetings from an extremely satisfied subber from So-Cal,(L.A.). Would it help if you were to submerge the next rims in water to avoid ''heat shock''?

[@alexmeador7147]

I love seeing all of the creative ways you're able to fixture and maneuver unwieldy materials in your shop, it really inspires some of the design work I do professionaly as well as how I operate in my home shop as a weekend warrior. quick question but do you know why the rims only get welded on one side? Intuitively to me it seems like welding both sides is stronger but clearly that's not the standard.

[@snowballengineering]

I’m not sure. All tractor rims with pressed solid centres like this are only welded on one side. Must be a reason but I don’t know what it is.

[@boydovens4180]

@@snowballengineering Its probably that the one side weld is sufficient to hold the rim , most people would do a double weld , ( belt and braces ) . I think it is purely down to cost by the manufacturer .

[@michaelgoergen6702]

Thanks for the education I have to do that on some 12 inch Deere wheels

[@davejohnstone1500]

patience of a Saint Oliver wow 👌

[@malcolm8938]

Am I the last one to have not heard of an arc gouger? It looks a really handy bit of equipment.

[@snowballengineering]

It’s very handy. I’d never heard of one either in my working career until I saw one on KZbin.

[@Andrew_Fernie]

I first came accross it on ICweld channel then CEE showed it@@snowballengineering

[@clivewilliams3661]

My first reaction was it use threaded rod to suspend the nave (centre) of the wheel and then use wedges to centre it but your method works admirably. The only point worth making is that as the offset is now greater there is more leverage on both the steering and the bearings that will need to be monitored more regularly.

[@jamessbryne]

Great video,could you have made up a plate to bolt onto rim and used a circinus roller with the gouger.

[@cheechU38K]

😜 if you’re gonna try tyre removal, go for the biggest one 😅 wow that was a neat gouging free hand 👌🏼 might have been smoother on a powered foot pedal turntable 😝

[@harryparkinson3133]

What clamps do you use?

[@snowballengineering]

Bessey

[@malcolmbennett3907]

Where there’s a will there’s a way. Brilliant vid. You’ll get all the boy racers wanting to reverse the rims on their Vauxhall Corsa.😂😂

[@jamesriordan3494]

Well done mate !

[@W1LLB0]

Videos and photos are the go when putting stuff back together. I take plenty of photos when I pull something apart. That and taking sample pieces into the shop so I don't buy the wrong thing 😂

[@kennethprice1370]

Could you have put the wheel on the cutting table and used the computer controlled torch to cut out the center plate?

[@snowballengineering]

The rim is too tall

[@Wizedealsales]

Nice work as always!

[@gerryboard6615]

A straight rim on a tractor wheel !. Never, not even from new, and even more so after the farmers have driven them a few times.

[@normanbuchanan9710]

that was a clever solution to what appears to have been a very complicated situation and for wheels that size on a slow moving vehicle I think the tolerance difference will probably not be noticable.

[@0venchip]

Have you seen On Fire Welding. He has a hydraulic line boring machine which looks quite trendy.

[@Prestonwelding]

Great job sir. Love the videos.

[@harveylong5878]

one would think those rims came off a FELD Monster jam truck being so out. might have found a niche market Ollie - custom making wheels for UK / European Monster truck teams. for free handing gouging the centers out , welding them back in the rims came out pretty damned good

[@joeduffy3309]

This is the problem with doing anything for farmers, they never have the intelligence, manners or appreciation to either wash anything or prepare it before bringing their equipment to a workshop for repair. I can say this after 25 years of this kind of work. Here in particular they could have brought those rims to any tire shop and had the tyres whipped off them saving this man and his dad a couple of hours of hardship.

[@stephenkelly2067]

Stupid farmer could bought correct rim and saved any work whatsoever! 🙄

[@TheGrimReaper1]

I recall a comedy song by Flanders’s and Swan in the fifties or sixties called “ It all makes work for a working man to do”😊. It was good of the farmer to think of Snowball Engineering to sort. It all helps Oliver in his business.

[@cheekymonkey666]

why cant they use a spacer? we have 4 inch spacers on our tractor front end...

[@snowballengineering]

Not my concern. I just do what I’m asked to do.

[@kenreeve6549]

great work as usual

[@michaelminers2612]

Well done! I *** hate taking tyres off, think I would have told the customer, deliver rims only 😢s

[@damienreilly8061]

I didn't know the wheel spinning would make the camera dizzy enough to fall over but sure enough it did. 😂

[@officialmysteriousrider130]

Nice job has always bud

[@09FLTRMM77]

MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼………………………………………………………………………..Just out of curiosity, what did it matter what side you welded? I would probably have welded both. I understand the factory welded one side , but they probably used a jig and welding fixture. Like I said, just curious.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

Looks a very tricky job

[@robseward7496]

You did the right thing taking the tires off the rims buddy

[@dannygreene4594]

Yes please to the drawbar and a look at the finished trailer thanks

[@keel23345]

Great vid👍. Dont mean to sound annoying but just looking at when you were gouging and grinding, you were bent over, its hard on the back over time and ya wont realise til you have trouble with your back like alot of us. Like when ya have the forklift there, lift up the forks and u be standing straighter. Maybe the gouging couldnt be done with the rim up straight, i dunno.

[@gregj7916]

I guess being a tyre fitter is some type of essestial service that most peeps dislike.

[@01blackhills]

Tractor tyres without the right tools are a pig to get off! I use my telehandler to push down on a block of wood on the tyre wall. Pops off every time without breaking a sweat

[@phil6465]

Note to self in future. Customers to supply rims without tyres, 😀

[@williamwarnold6737]

I work at tyres, and I’m surprised that you accepted them with their tyres on. That is very heavy going, getting them removed, while loose. I had a couple of new backs to fit, a few weeks back. The farmer thought he was helping me by having them loose from the tractor, and the first thing I done was put them back on again. It’s hard enough work, with out making it harder, on the old back. Plus having them on the tractor, will assist greatly when you come to blowing them out onto the bead.

[@daleburrell6273]

0:03..."everyone knows it's WINDY"-(!)

[@andrewmiller2868]

Where would you be without your dad? 🤣🤣🤣.

[@snowballengineering]

I know! 🤣

[@robertstewart7744]

Great job.