Snowrunner Which is best Derry longhorn sibling | Best Oshkosh

[@theodoredeverell3894]

Derry Longhorn 3194 got buffed with permanent diff lock. Would be interesting to see this comparison again.

[@Matt_-so6kh]

now its got active suspension as well

[@NiklasAdv]

@@Matt_-so6kh it still is absolute shit :D tried it yesterday and it got stuck in the most shallow mudarea, could not belive it. no matter what i tried with the active suspension.

[@akhiileshgupta1459]

It gets stuck cuz of the dead axle in the middle

[@theodoredeverell3894]

@@akhiileshgupta1459 u can now lift and raise the dead axle as well as permanent diff locks :)

[@Matt_-so6kh]

@@NiklasAdv from my past experience the truck has been great for me, I used it in the out with the old contract in Michigan and it worked a charm

[@MrBendyarms]

It'd be nice to see a roll-over test. See how far tilted a truck can get to the left or right before it tips. It would be like a slightly more quantitative version of your stability test. Of course that would mean finding a hill that gets gradually steeper. Either way, loving the snowrunner content

[@Dirkietje8]

We just need a map editor and someone to make a more optimized version of the Proving grounds.

[@Minuz1]

I completly agree, most of the time you can get out of sticky situations with the winch, but it's much harder to prevent tipping which can lead to worse situations.

[@Name-kd5jj]

Yeah exactly thats why i chose the White Western Star over the other trucks, its noticeably wider and less prone to tipping over. I never even used any of these heavy trucks, i just used the White for the entirety of Michigan and Alaska. I used the smaller 8x8 ( forget the name of it) for the Russia map.

[@tuckerschwab5331]

And a turning test. The 3194 cant turn worth a s**t

[@tuckerschwab5331]

@@Name-kd5jj kolob?

[@vadenummela9353]

Everyone really really underestimates the importance of diff-lock. To me if a truck doesnt even have difflock its not suited for dirt roads in spintyres games. Even like an unpaved stretch of gravel road will get you 8x8 stuck with one wheel in a slight dimple in the road.

[@Dirkietje8]

Diff lock beats AWD for sure. The C-256 could go anywhere in Mudrunner without power to its front wheels.

[@lankymk]

I've noticed that, AWD is nice to have but Diff-Lock is generally more important of the two to have IF you have to choose.

[@EmilienGosselin]

The Royal BM17 has no diff lock but with 51" tires it just never gets stuck

[@internetexpert8153]

@@EmilienGosselin I was gonna set if anyone else noticed that. The royal bm is my go to right now. At first I didn't like that it didn't have any diff lock but only time it really gets stuck is deep mud

[@Turgz]

@@lankymk In my experience if a truck doesn't have AWD then no amount of horse power will stop me from getting stuck. In mudrunner the diff lock only trucks literally cannot pull their own weight and if they dare to even touch a trailer they completely freeze in place.

[@ODSTD56]

8:40 The reason its struggles there is because the devs made branches a pain in the ass to deal with when you hit them and they don't break. I have run into this personally with alot of my trucks. It ruins the immersion of this game.

[@Paronak]

the fallen trees only break if you run them over with your wheels. if they don't detect a wheel touching them, they can still get snagged on your bumper/payload/crane support legs. i tested this and i don't think it's going to ever get fixed

[@noodlefu_]

@@Paronak FYI, if you push against, or winch something behond, the branch and try and put force against it they'll eventually snap and disappear. Still annoying, and can take a fair few seconds, but at least it's not a game breaker.

[@mrmeockc]

ran in the night and hit the branches. time skip to see what the hell happened :D

[@fryphillipj560]

And yet, still the 4520 wins

[@arty_gangster]

@@noodlefu_ Alot of Scouts still cant go near trees

[@ArtaghVril]

"Crippled" is really the best description for the 3194. It's only worth selling asap.

[@bruh1694]

Is it worth much? Like how much does it sell for?

[@ArtaghVril]

@@bruh1694 I don't know the exact price, now but it's always the same price for wich you can buy it ;-)

[@paulschauer6273]

I reslly had trouble liking the 3194 sure it’s beefy and big but There are trucks that can do everything it can and more I’ve fallen hard for the tayga xxxx

[@PrivateMcPrivate]

Yea

[@tedyyyy123]

I made that truck a true monster first i add him difflock then i make him real 8x8 all wheels work with better engine it can smack any truck in game 🤗

[@brandonspolander509]

Is it just me or do they have the BEST horn sounds in the game

[@kevinmasel334]

That’s why they are both called the Derry LongHORN

[@Dirkietje8]

A lot of trucks have very dumb horns almost car like. And then there's the DAN and P16 which have these mist horns, hope horn sounds are a customization feature theyll add.

[@rayman8591]

I must say the Western Star 6900 twin steer has a nice sounding Horn tho

[@rambosclone8410]

Na. The p16 is the best.

[@ocallaghan3865]

The azov artic has a car horn

[@alphaprawns]

The DL 3194 really seems like a glorified highway truck

[@SD1ONE]

I spend like more than an hour rescuing it and it turned out to be a mediocre performer....I was so disappointed, I did few missions with it then sold it right after.

[@siddharthkapadia7674]

I bought it, drove 500m, sold it. Even a fully upgraded Kodiak with 4 wheels is better than this so called heavy.

[@muhtasimrahman6800]

it was painful to drag it out from river, turns out this truck cant even turn without needing to backup. couldn't even complete a single delivery. Sold it immediately. Guess free is not always good.

[@jnotbabee8684]

Yea lol

[@Rene-mw5jw]

I think that DL 3194 is for road use only

[@Chris-yy5pj]

My uncle worked on these types of trucks in the army before he was killed in Iraq in 2005. He specialized in hemtts and 5 tons though

[@sierra1226]

Respect from Italy 🇮🇹

[@elizabethridenbaugh7731]

Sorry about that.

[@sxdasrevxnge8427]

Sry 4 ur loss

[@JuliaCV9]

RIP

[@Joseph4499]

That’s a shame about the 3194. Was looking forward to getting it because I like the way it looks.

[@MotoMoto-ld9gi]

It’s a great highway truck, but every truck is a good highway truck.

[@rambosclone8410]

Why is the 3194 using chain tyres in the mud tests? Chain tyres are terrible on everything except ice. It wouldn't of won anyway but give it a fighting chance atleast.

[@Paronak]

because it can't mount mudtires, only chaintires (Which are just offroat tires that can handle ice)

[@rambosclone8410]

@@Paronak offroad tyres would of been better. someone on reddit found all the stats for the tyres. chain tyres are about the same as AT tyres in mud.

[@cisco245]

@@rambosclone8410 can you provide the link on reddit? would love to see it. thanks

[@toneysebits8458]

@@rambosclone8410 Yes, link would be great

[@pawelp.4953]

@@rambosclone8410 cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/675760900300603392/708039887324053524/489594b.png

[@Spud607]

I did some testing of my own and the GMC MH9500 outperformed the Derry Longhorn 3194 in almost every area. Pretty impressive machine really. (Did not test mud as both are useless in mud and should be avoided at all costs.)

[@vladvulcan]

because the GMC has upgradeable diff lock?

[@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544]

Well the gmc has both lockable diff and awd and a gigantic lift kit to avoid ground shit.

[@Spud607]

@@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 yes but at the time of testing it didn't this comment is completely out dated. The lifted suspension got in the way most of the time since it couldn't do well off-road anyway without 4wd and it just made it top heavy from there. I ran it with regular suspension and highrange gearbox. It was amazing how fast it could go because since the centre of gravity was low it was near impossible to flip. The ford ltl 9000 and at flat faced international didn't even come close to its performance.

[@Txtzraven]

Lmao I was thinking about this comparison last night, not sure if I regret selling it now because of its buffs

[@Vladislav-Listev]

Lol, its super obvious that 3194 sucks

[@binary1123]

Lmao

[@luketheduke169]

CruzooRobinzon, the 3194 isn’t that bad tho, sure it got the dead axle, but it’s road capability is pretty good. And the truck is just as good as it’s driver.

[@justinlynch3]

I love the look of the old truck (plus I'm going for the trophy of owning all vehicles) so I won't be selling it when I get it.

[@acynder1]

I personaly sold it with the intention of buying it later, perfomancewise Its newer brother is more flexible int its abilities.

[@tjdarkrage6693]

Thank you for making this series of comparison videos. They have really helped me decide which trucks to keep and which ones to sell.

[@silasmason6698]

Take a loot at there stats lol I probably would spell something wrong

[@benedictsyaloom6072]

So my conclusion are: DL 3194 could reach high rpm even with heavy loads towed in, but lack of locking diff and could seem to be struggling in some "squishy surfaces" like mud, etc. Plus its a 8x6 with single axle steering. The DL 4520 are far more durable huge truck, but a bit slower than DL3194. It has locking diff and a full 8x8 truck, which means it could tow heavy loads without problem, also because of the 8x8 frame and a locking diff it has more capability for offroading and driving in thick mud. Plus it allows you to steer the front and the rear-est axle, resulting in a better turning radius and far more controllable while driving it.

[@imanidiot8347]

Great vid! Keep up the good work!

[@trini_bruce4381]

You have to make a SD1one symbol in snowrunner if you can

[@C-M-E]

Glad to see the 4520 well-represented in this game. That truck is like the A-team of haulers.

[@zeferinoresendiz1698]

Derry Longhorn 3194 : exists sd1one : cast it in to the fire destroy it me: no

[@lipipaco4533]

Great video ! Can u make video about kolob 74760 vs kolob 74941 which one is most powerful?

[@AnteSocial86]

Can you PLEASE do a comparison between DAN96320 & AZOV73210? Both Heavy class vehicles that have frame addons that feature more than a high saddle. Love the vids so far!

[@nfsfanAndrew]

Dan 96320 easily wins. Azov 73210 has ground clearance issues and the nose costantly gets caught up causing engine damage.

[@AnteSocial86]

@@nfsfanAndrew good to know, cheers. I'd still like to see a side-by-side as well though.

[@hagoty8234]

nfsfanAndrew Dan is better but the Asov 10x10 is fast in mud

[@ZeratKJ]

Salvadged it 2 days ago, used for something, got stuck, now I understand why .. time to sell it

[@jimistixxdrums]

I like the turn test. Good work!

[@ericmosley5628]

Since the Derry longhorn 3194 improved a lot now and stuff u should do a rematch.

[@forrestgrayson5169]

I spent like 45 minutes trying to get the truck out of the river, I tried the caterpillar 745c but then I tried the kolob 74941, and with all that effort I thought the truck would be awesome but when I used it it absolutely sucked. So at least it looks kinda cool

[@corygordon2326]

Using chained tires puts the truck at a big disadvantage when going through mud and off-road. Chains are only for Alaska iced roads and even there most people just use off-road or mud tires because they’re better for everything else

[@HD-zj7dy]

He literally said you can't put mud tires on the 3194

[@ach3909]

@@HD-zj7dy Then Offroad II's would have been better.

[@sgarrinda6948]

Well but hes placing both trucks on equal footing aka both get chain tires.

[@darksoul7024]

Please keep making these videos, I love them!

[@riotdrone]

these videos are so useful, please keep making them

[@koleosborne4939]

Many Hate 3194. it may be lacking compared to 4520 but in my experience with 3194 its exceptionally better when under load as seen in the video Nice Vid SD1ONE. you should do one with the ANK MK38

[@simonz28]

i tried the 4520 and it could barely pull an empty trailer on flat ground without going first , second , first , second and was soooooo slow

[@BossBaouzza]

Nah fam, the 3194 can barely make it up a hill due to the lack of diffs. Diffs are crucial to any truck in my opinion

[@dozergames2395]

@@simonz28 I don't get why in real life it could have up to a 700hp engine and was a tank transport but in game its shit For comparison the big Kolob for the russians irl had up to a 800hp engine

[@dave_x2.0]

Very beauty this edit video. Nice

[@usmchardcore0621]

As soon as I realized the 3194 had a TERRIBLE turn radius and couldn't make simple turns, i quickly picked up the 10 x 10 azov instead and never looked back. Not to mention the lack of diff lock made it unreliable on its own. good video!

[@ferociousfries3563]

It would be cool if you add a progress tracker bar for each vehicle to make it easier to visualise Love these comparisons

[@oofnugget940]

Honestly best content on youtube

[@Matt_-so6kh]

Now that the DL3194 has diff and active suspension its a really good truck and has a well earned pace in my fleet BTW you should do a rematch between these two cos the 3194 got buffed

[@basstrom88]

I changed the 3194's game files to give it diff lock. I'd almost finished the game and never used it because it's crap, so I figured why not. I also have the 4520 a bit more power and all-time diff lock, gave the BM17 diff lock and changed the P16 to AWD while I was at it. It's nice being able to tweak truck stats manually to make them actually usable or more fun without being overpowered and breaking the game (well, you can do that too, but it's counterproductive in the long run).

[@kawahenry8716]

Hackerman

[@Scytez]

Immediately fell in love with DL 4520 horn. Guess I've made my choice. 😁

[@ashh2748]

Now that the little Derry got diff lock it is an absolute beast for small semi trailers and heavy, I use it in place of the p16 and the p16 is awesome

[@christopherlind]

Love the video keep up with the great work

[@jonredcorn862]

I've noticed for trucks without Diff locks, such as the royal bm17 using anything below low high gear and automatic is useless, the wheels just dont get enough tq and will end up spinning one tire, I bet that little derry would of rocked through the mud in high low or in automatic. The Royal BM17 has been dominating Island Lake for me with its 51 in offroad tires and no diff lock. Just keep the engine revved out and the wheels keep going.

[@christiankoehne3718]

my bm17 dominated much in taymyr with the saismic vibrator. that things turn radius is small and it has much power

[@kenanfurcle786]

Yeah only problem with the bm17 is it's ability to roll over at even the sight of a banked road

[@karthouw]

Sold the BM17 right away for the first Azov (which isn't fun as it's so OP but at least it doesn't get stuck in mud right away)

[@norhafiq2107]

nice video! can we have Voron comparison perhaps? :D

[@Dwgdgwgdinenr]

Great vid been here since first mudrunner content

[@foremanxsl7225]

I run the 3194 in auto everywhere and it performs quite well actually, every now and then you just have to give her some extra gas to get all the tires spinning, you can also get it for free so I can cut it a break not being the best.

[@milkman4137]

10:28 EXCEPT, When you want a heavy hauler to go on roads and regular dirt roads, Get the "crippled" truck. It won both pull tests, the one on ice (With chained tires) and on dirt. It has a bigger and more powerful engine and dirt isn't very slippery at all so it's diff lock isn't a disadvantage. (Its not an advantage either though)

[@blyatoppa2818]

Well in mud the one with diff is superior. And that's what most of snowrunner is, mud

[@BeefStew1332]

This was actually really super useful

[@volodymyrliashenko1024]

Did you create a map somehow? Or did you find such places on the existed map? How do you spawn trucks on specific place? Thanks!

[@foremanxsl7225]

The 3194 has diff-lock now! It’s much much better

[@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544]

Ehhhhhhhh

[@TS84NO]

In my experince, it seems like the 3194 perform better in mud, if you raise the middle axle first :)

[@Kenspiell]

I just woke up to this How TF did funny animal videos bring me here

[@zeferinoresendiz1698]

I have the Derry longhorn 3194 truck and despite it being a 8x6 truck it’s pretty good for highway truck driving (because in snowrunner I’m now on rank 17 and the 4520 rank required is 24)

[@MVSTNGGT]

Its the worst truck in the entire game, aside from the International cab over.

[@meyes1098]

For some reason I always call them the "Derry Longbottom" in my head xD

[@erichubert9339]

Love your comparisons, but will you make videos on mods?

[@rishalchand6940]

Do some gameplay videos as well, more content is always welcome. 😊

[@samjmarsay]

I was confused by how terrible that truck was. So disappointing

[@dearestterror5234]

It's the dead axle that causes it's downfall

[@Markus-GuerillaGames]

Very detailed. The blue one is best using for offroads and heavier tasks the other for faster, not that moody missions and low carry missions

[@Techpower888]

Just picked up the Derry 3194 and overall it's nice, I never owned it prior to diff lock and just assumed it always had it (late comer to the game). But its turning circle is atrocious. I mean it's really really bad. Its offroad capabilities are honestly fine, just be sure to lift the suspension so it doesn't get stuck and you'll pull through without any problems. I comfortably finished the foating drill mission with it. That said I'll be level 24 soon and will pick up the 4520 instead. Thanks for the video.

[@AgustinRodriguez-dd6mj]

Did a couple of runs with the free 3194 you find in Alaska and wasnt a fan, it's turning radius is abysmal. I ended up selling it and using the cash for to buy the 4520, love the quad steering and it never gets stuck in deep mud. Its my new go to for hauling long logs.

[@Papa_Swish]

The fact that they gave the 4520 the same engines as the 6x6 Royal and expected it to not be underpowered as hell is mind blowing. 'Heavy hauler' my ass, it can barely pull itself.

[@SD1ONE]

I don't understand this decision...I mean it's a tractor, It can only have sadle and log cart and can't even have crane...so it already has pretty limited use..So the best thing to do here was to give it a good engine so that it does the things that it can do the best.

[@clarkesuperman]

The 4520 is the best for hauling those big rig trailers. Steering is unmatched

[@saturnus3555]

Chain tires dont do good in mud, u need offroad tires if there is no mud tire option

[@nathanjenkins8192]

Great Channel content

[@jcbro86]

It would be cool to see the western star twin steer in a duel but nothing else is shaped like it really.

[@BANANABOAT-zt7kb]

Are you going to redo this because now 3194 has diff lock

[@sparkyails123]

Would love to see a video n the twinsteer. Don't know what you would compare it to though. Great video though and can't wait for more.

[@grandetartarie2611]

Hello! Do the test Kolob 74760 vs 74941.

[@jeanrunkle1059]

The 4520 has become one of my favorites

[@muhtasimrahman6800]

3194 dery long horn is utter trash, turning radius so huge cant even turn a normal corner without backing up.

[@organicorange2364]

Muhtasim Rahman ikr

[@BoosieGaming]

3:42 the best depiction of the horns in snowrunner lol

[@mr.baofeng4769]

This comparison needs to be redone since the 3194 has a diff lock and the middle dead axle can be raised and lowered now

[@JasontheFolf]

Ever since the rift update, the 3194 has had diff lock.

[@AnchovyTheItalianStallion]

I think this should be updated because i noticed that the 3194 had an update and it now has always on dif-lock

[@movinmetal2596]

The 3194 may suck, but I love this truck! IRL, these things get used for logging and heavyweight off-road hauls. Also did quite well for the military, pulling 50 ton Patton tanks through fairly nasty conditions....It’s got a V12 engine upgrade so I think I will use it for the special trailers, most likely with assistance lol

[@p-i-w-y]

the 3194 is cool

[@fishpop]

The 3194 reminds me of Onslaught, especially with that militaristic low-loader. 3194 may be faster but 4520 is better in every other aspect.

[@wrenchtheroo6557]

Diff lock is a necessity in this game, i used to work for international/navistar and when winter came, 1 or 2 inch of snow could totally get the truck stuck, so engage diff lock and put it in 3 gear and hope the tires dont slip

[@carterjohnson3894]

I like the new stability test! Could you do the two Kolob heavy trucks?

[@thegt3dude384]

when i got the 3194 in alaska i didnt know how good it was on road until i saw it had all time AWD and diff lock and now i use it for all my multi-region contracts

[@trb4426]

Loving the engine sound of the 3194

[@GenericAmerican1]

The 3194 is "okay" for alaska only by fact that you can get just about anywhere in the region with a paved road. Other than that, yeah its very lackluster.

[@jaydenc27]

Pls do Royalbm17 vs International Paystar

[@Foxtrot2F]

4520, it's a cleaner, a superb long trailer king, after all operations are done in the region, it's time for cleaners, to collect and sell all the trailers left, and this truck can handle this job very efficiency, or when you need it's precise turn radius on curvy mountain roads.

[@seven0sevenizdashiz]

I won’t sell it because there is a trophy for getting all trucks but I just won’t use the 3194. The 4520 with the 4 wheel steering is amazing and is my go to hauler.

[@jqg4m3r63]

What is the Change Suspension Mode on the 3194 for aside from the Tyre rise and lower? Also the 3194 has AWD and Diff Lock both Active and can use Off Road at least. This test has to be done again.

[@jetjazz05]

Finally made it to level 8 or so, got upgrades for Royal BM17 even though it has no diff lock, it's lifted with the biggest diameter mud tires and offroad gearbox, just WOW. The game's so much easier now lol... Did the same for the Fleetstar F2070A but with diff lock, I've got two of those, with those 3 vehicles it's really no problem to get most anywhere now.

[@reezy3894]

Nice Video

[@Mr.Packwatch]

"Lets take a loot at there stats" that part had ne dying

[@Evhen_Velikiy]

Also, there is some strange issue in this game - if your truck has no diff option, you can enable diff by switching from LOW to AUTO. Its work for all trucks.

[@pawelp.4953]

SD1ONE - all offroad tires are better in mud than all chained ones. OHD I (best mud tires for 3194) have mud grip coefficient of 1.9. Chained tires have 1.3

[@pawelp.4953]

For comparison MHS I on the other truck have 3.2. Of course tire diameter, width, and double or single tires does affect floatation so it's not that direct of a difference but it's there

[@pawelp.4953]

Tires stats to use in future videos - of course FHI might change them in future patches. I am not an author of this list: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/675760900300603392/708039887324053524/489594b.png

[@jackslayer2640]

The biggest problem with the 3194 AKA the M911 is the inability to raise and stow the tag axle. If you could do this the truck would perform significantly better unladen. On the other hand, when fully loaded, the M911 does pretty well in almost any condition. The more weight you can get on its rear axles the better. Also for reference, the real M911 was an air activated AWD system that also engaged locking differentials at the same time, so the real life truck is more capable than what they have done in game. For me it's a little sad since I love this truck a lot.

[@Daniel_H01]

im curious where are all these tests performed at? are they from maps in vanilla game, or using a mod to setup (like creative mode almost) test track?

[@jessegd6306]

You'd think the truck with army camo would do pretty alright in offroad conditions, but no.

[@leviengle3983]

I know it would be a ton more work, but have you considered testing them by class, nationality, and doing a bunch more trucks at once? Would help alot with choosing trucks.

[@nickmckay1635]

Please redo this video with all the updates on both trucks

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

I use the 3194 because I dont have the larger one. I tend to get high centered constantly, and it's great for being able to get an offroad truck back on its wheels that has flipped

[@Firefuzz11]

It’s a really heavy truck that is only good for uprighting big vehicles or trailers.

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

@@Firefuzz11 I agree, that's why I keep it. I've noticed since I dont have a lift on it, it is actually rather stable because its lower to the ground.

[@SchazmenRassir]

3194 is for those who want a challenge. Or are masochists. Or both. I think I might enjoy that one, based only on how I actually also like using the B-130 in MudRunner. And only in single player, where I don't need to worry about driving a friend crazy. 4520 looks to be just... well, a direct upgrade on the 3194 in every department but speed. And finally, adding turn radius to the test was a good choice!

[@deaconwanderer2409]

Needs an update. Saber fixed part of the 3194. It now has always on diff lock and retractable dead axle.

[@freakrebell4709]

is the chain tires the best tire you could have put on the truck wouldn't all terrain tires work better in this race?

[@BLK03COBRA]

I used the 3194 in Alaska to haul semi trailers around and even some of the rigs that could stick to highway. It was rough off-road but found it very nice to drive on paved roads with chains in Alaska. Otherwise yeah, it's garbage.

[@lucas868GV]

What about the best American heavy x best russian heavy truck?

[@hanifloka130]

I managed to salvage the 3194 yesterday and decided to do a shakedown run in the Trucks and Investigations task in White Valley. I wasn't thoroughly impressed despite having always on diff lock and now a liftable dead axle. Problem is, even with the lifted axle not being used to lift the truck, it gets caught. And since the tires on that axle stays as a highway single and CAN'T STEER, makes the truck not worth having. After that mission I sold it immediately and got a modded 4520 instead. Modded, because the issue with the other Derry, is an abysmal power-to-weight ratio of B. And when it comes to heavy trucks, B is not enough.

[@alecduquette7500]

I wish the 3194 or in real life the M911 was more useful in game. Oshkosh has such a unique look but damn is it useless in game. Pretty much any offroad truck with a high saddle can do its job better