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[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

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[@aaronbeardslee9022]

Yea good video im from washington i thing a good video would be about jade and the different typs

[@deemushroomguy]

Yeah, I think optical feldspar is the only true "sunstone". Oregon has it all wrong. 😂 Find the sun through the clouds with an Oregon sunstone, then I'll call it sunstone.

[@rebeccaofsunnybrookefarm8469]

@currentlyRockhounding ... see my other comment...

[@DanFarrar]

As a complete amateur, I appreciate accurate naming.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Thank you, its complex enough as is without adding more to it.

[@1sec2midnight]

Me too, Trustworthiness and naivety have gotten the better of me on several occasions, but I'm learning, and this kind of video helps a lot.

[@sandmaker]

Relax, and chill a bit. Your right but don't let it eat you up. Glad to see you again. Try to be happy, safe and healthy . 😷⚒

[@valsummers5330]

Keep on keeping us informed!

[@GreggJones-s8b]

Great rant! Thank you.

[@waynemorrison2643]

Amen my brother!! I feel your anger and also get bent about that.

[@patriciamckean4186]

I agree 100%, original names. Scientific names. You are spot on! Look forward to seeing all those knives.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I do my best with them and I think that's all that can really be asked of a person.

[@pamelaklemp5615]

100% agree 👍.

[@gabepurpur]

I want to like this video twice. Thanks for giving straight forward factual mineral information. I felt that sigh and pause before the rhyolite vs jasper explanation.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I'm glad you liked it!

[@rebeccaofsunnybrookefarm8469]

Jared, I was told that because copper and brass pins are softer then the steel or rock that the cold forge process smashes the softer metal into the offset hole. So that is not necessary to obtain a perfect hole.. Try it on a old knife that you disassembled... Have a great day my friend.. Ps the cold forge pins in copper can be obtained from some hardware stores or use thick copper wire and a hammer it in... And it doesn't need to necessary be perfect just effective...

[@sarahporter9541]

Love the new knife handles. Beauty and function together!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Thank you!

[@brianholcomb940]

I agree with you on what you said! For example, if someone found a green rock and called it greenstone, then who's to say people won't use that term for any green rock they find! To that, then all rocks that are green could be classified as greenstone, and we would lose adventirine, Emerald, malicite, Hiddenite, and so many other green rocks to a simple identification that doesn't involve the make up of the rock itself! I'm not a rock expert, but I do know that we need these names to identify the rocks we have! Very informative post! Love the knife! Thanks for sharing!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Well said!

[@besteven]

Yes, bring on the needed renaming! And, agreed--it is amazing how people will defend incorrect labeling (of many things), which causes nothing but confusion and wastes everyone's time. We are suffering under the current Age of Misinformation, but this all the more reason to get it right or shut up. Is it obvious I also become a little heated over this, as well? Enjoyed the rant...

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

There's also nothing wrong with not knowing what something is. I have some items in my collection that are unknown and I just recorded the location I found it and ill figure out what it is someday.

[@provenience]

Brain breaking. I love the SNS rant editions. Knowledge vs. marketing

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

They do seem to happen from time to time.

[@406findings]

Good call on the re naming rocks nonsense 😅 i have had the ryholite and picture jsper argument before as well. I have seen lots of confusion with Montana moss agate identification as some people consider dentrites moss when it comes to Montana agate but then consider it a dendritic agate if its found somewhere else.

[@r.awilliams9815]

Yeah, my pet peeve is retailers naming something 'jasper' when it absolutely isn't a chalcedony at all. The last time I got burned by that trick I got something that could be scratched with a pocket knife.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

That's a bummer, I hope it wasn't too costly of mistake.

[@r.awilliams9815]

@@CurrentlyRockhounding No, nothing serious, a few pounds of tumbling material. I just crossed the retailer off my list. Plenty of other places to buy good material out there.

[@markattardo]

Enjoyed hanging. I'm up for whatever is on your mind for SNS'👍👍

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Thank you!

[@williamproctor4388]

Awesome video. Lots of fun. I definitely learned something new and you better tell us what you’re exception is next week or else 😠😂😂

[@jeffblosser8273]

Great and very informative rant, I have always hated the random renaming of things for no real reason. This was also a good reminder that I hadn't subscribed to your podcast yet so I made sure to subscribe before I forgot again. I hope they are as interesting and informative as your videos.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I think you will like the podcast and we are about to start posting more of them as we come into the winter months.

[@francoiselandriault8164]

I totally agree with you.

[@PattyCReid]

I’m right there with you about drilling holes in rock. Can’t wait for your video!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

It will come!

[@wulfslaed]

I wish there was a two thumbs up button. 100% agree. Thanks for the rant.

[@spetkovsek57]

Scales! I think the handles put on knives are referred to as scales. Don't rename them! Ha, ha. Just kidding. You forgot a big recent one too. Larsonite, became Gary Green, and is now Freedom Jasper. Really! Just pick one and stay with it! Now you've got me riled up. Have a good week and thanks for the video.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Ha! Got me! Yeah scales would be the correct name. Yeah its really is silly to see things like that just get renamed over and over again but its still the same material.

[@Lisa.Sparkman]

This one was a good one tonight! I'm no expert but I appreciate having one name to a rock. A lot of it is marketing I think. That knife was beautiful. And I wish you luck with the others you're going to make. I am sure that they are going to be gorgeous as well. My son-in-law bought a tiny mini drill press that is made to work with Dremel size bits. He was proudly showing it off to me just the other day but I don't remember the brand. If you would like information on it, I would be happy to ask him.

[@4streegrrrl601]

as a forester, I feel very similar to you when someone refers to each and every coniferous tree a "pine". Watch my head explode. 😂 A colleague of mine and I got into a debate in the woods a few weeks ago over the common name of a shrub, due to being from different parts of Canada, but at least we ended up agreeing on the scientific name. As a newbie, it seems to be a lot more free-and-easy with the names of minerals and rocks, which is why I am now more into the established scientific methods on how to do (more) accurate identification. Or at least if I can't naile down the exact mineral or rock, I can sort of get myself in the ball park. Lots to learn, that's for sure! Keep up the good work - I enjoyed tonight's educational rant!

[@joniangelsrreal6262]

👁👁 happy to drop by … Kisses to 🐈‍⬛🐾🐾 & dogie 🐾🐾

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

:)

[@wendybailey1347]

Thank you, it needs to be said! I know the exact FB post that inspired this, haha! I appreciate that you are a purist about these things, I am as well. I get so bristled when I see some people confidently throwing out absolutely incorrect IDs on people's "please help me ID this" posts. It also makes me pretty salty when others insist they have something they really don't and then will argue to the death with people who challenge them...people who can clearly show/tell them they are in the wrong. The Dunning-Kruger effect is RAMPANT in FB rockhounding groups! Love the knife handle, btw!!

[@outdooradventureswithfayde6832]

I avoid FB rock groups now because of the reasons you spoke of.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Maybe I should join you in avoiding them.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

It most certainly can become massively frustrating.

[@realandroid8589]

Making beef where it isn't needed. This is one of those "literally no one" memes.

[@taniakapronczai7652]

Nice work on the knife! I agree with you so much on the renaming of the rocks! I would like to ask you to clarify some facts about dolomite for me please. Lately, I have been seeing many people selling "dolomite jaspers" with quite the colour variations. To my understanding, these are sedimentary rocks, but they don't have the same formation. Thank you!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Dolomite is a kind of limestone and in no way is it close to being a jasper.

[@coveredconfusion3592]

You've dashed my dreams of renaming the "crowley" into "dinosaur bubblegum agate".

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

:D

[@Brownacle]

As a trained geologist and mineralogist, I have fought with these thoughts previously but in the end, I think that the trade names might help to get amateurs into geology and rock hounding through the fun names and stuff but that’s just my opinion.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

That's a point a few other have made in the comments here which is one that I haven't fully accounted for but I think you might be right.

[@KatyDidRocks]

OMG, Jared, you made me laugh out loud several times in this video! I have to say I have never heard your Righteous Indignation voice before. It was a good rant. :)

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I'm glad you liked it!

[@1sec2midnight]

I don't think I ever questioned why this beautiful rhyolite from Utah and Nevada is named wonderstone. I do like that name and it has become one of my favorites because of the colors and patterns, but it makes me feel much smarter knowing what it really is. Thanks for trying to keep rocks and minerals unadulterated.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I think there is a time and place for common names but we as a community of rockhounds should try to limit the creation of new ones since it doesn't help anyone at all. In this example here I have seen reference to rhyolite being called wonderstone as far back as the early 1950s. How many people are currently around today rockhounding that would remember the late 1940's before that common name became wide spread?

[@josephvohs8003]

​@@CurrentlyRockhoundingHey, so if I was to display a piece of say Utah Vernon Rhyolite as (Rhyolite var. Wonderstone), what would your opinion be on that labeling?

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

@@josephvohs8003 I would write something to that effect. Of course there's other information I would put on the label as well.

[@stanbogosian-mm8bs]

With all that is happening in the world, the renaming of rock is way down there on priority. If you want to name a rock, that's your business. So what's the harm in that? Time to put our energy into more meaningful quests, like making sure our public land remains open to collecting.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Just because you view something as a lower priority in the world doesn't make that the case for everyone and a person can also care about and talk about more than one thing. The harm is the confusion it produces.

[@stanbogosian-mm8bs]

For those of us mineral people, the material shown on the video was some form of silicate. If I want to call it Happy Rock or Suseki Stone, what's the big deal??

[@froglizard6135]

I think people tend to change the names when they don't know the real name so they don't look like they don't know what they're talking about. Myself, I would rather say I don't know the actual name rather than make up one. Stay true to your ethics! I totally agree with you 👍👍👍

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I have some unknown rocks and minerals in my collection and there's nothing wrong with that at all but I do think there is something wrong with just guessing at it and then telling others the incorrect guess as all it does in the long run is confuse people.

[@tott3457]

I’m in 100% agreement! Pronunciation, tomatoe , tomotoe Is still identifying a 🍅 But renaming doesn’t identify the original item as it is meant to be!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Well said! I don't really care how someone says something but I do care if someone is trying and not just giving up and calling the tomato an apple because they haven't seen it before and its red so all red things are apples.

[@pamelaklemp5615]

The "Poor Tomato 🍅 😢 ". Even the USA Government got in on the Tomato misinformation band wagon. Due to Fruit taxation the FRUIT Tomato was officially deemed a VEGETABLE! Yes, for no other reason than for the import/export pricing game. So then, Tomatoes are NOT Apples or Vegetables, they're a delicious Tomato... and a Fruit.

[@brutusb1858]

i love this topic. more vids on the topic are good by me. do ocean picture stone!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

That will likely be a topic that comes up in the future.

[@pamelaklemp5615]

1000 % agree 👍 👏. I value knowing exactly what I'm buying when searching for Gemstones and Rocks. The bandwagon of renaming everything is painfully rampant. Marketing departments want names to sound cute, trendy, contemporary but care little for actual accurate information. Retailers are glad to go with the flow of renaming products so they aren't held accountable for selling Quartz as Jade. Mislabeled Gemstones and Rocks is something that belongs in the "THINGS-TO-GO" bin. Isn't there some regulatory agency that should be the Watch Dogs for the Gemstones industries? It'sa multi billion dollar industry and the anything goes mindsets are lowering the long held standards.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Currently there is no real authority when it comes to this subject. The IMA does offer naming convention to new minerals but there's nothing stopping anyone from saying whatever they like except someone like me pointing it out.

[@deemushroomguy]

When you said "What is this right here?" @ 12:06 in the video, I blurted out "Oh, I know this one! It's a Rock!" 😂😅

[@phylxguy5547]

So Dan Hurd has the ocean picture stone 🤔 what is it made of & would this be an example of renaming for monetary purposes only?

[@mariemoss2475]

As far as I can remember, he named some Ocean Picture Stone after his wife, I'm sure it's from one of his Claims... Its very blue and beautiful... I can't remember her name unfortunately.

[@senorlaverg6667]

Was going to ask this same question. 100% marketing. But it’s the same reason people call Larimar “Atlantis Stone” - so crystal healing moms can understand it.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Its my understanding that Dan Hurds ocean picture stone as he calls it is a light blue brecciated chalcedony that is rather mid tier in quality and the host rock (i'm not sure what it is) looks rather porous and likely will not take a polish or at least not on the same level as the chalcedony. He is 100% over selling it.

[@golfinglibrarian]

​@mariemoss2475 I believe he calls it "Dayna Blue", after his wife Dayna.

[@seananderson5850]

Old man yells at sky.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Don't forget the tinfoil hat.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

@@seananderson5850 Do you just think that is a better approach for some reason? For the most part I find the whole concept to be foolish I guess and I don't really see what wrong with encouraging people to use the real and proper names for things vs. just picking whatever you feel like.

[@keithcunningham7925]

It gets so confusing when people rename rocks very well said thank you and that sunset jasper is out of this would I got two little pieces of it and it's very expensive

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

It's already a complex subject and its seems like to me that adding even more complexity is just foolish.

[@upperpeninsulabeautiful]

You know...I think you're right!,👍 Hey, by chance, is that orange handled knife I see in you're rock box display...is that one of you're early made knives? I've never noticed it there before!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

That was gift given to me by my friend Shawn, in fact everything in the background of my SNS videos is something that was given to me.

[@upperpeninsulabeautiful]

@@CurrentlyRockhounding I never knew that all those finds were given to you...I just assumed that was your personal collection! Forgive me I'm a newbie!😁 But very cool nonetheless!

[@patrickkillilea5225]

Love Knives.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Thank you!

[@Romania_Rockhound]

I have a thing with MOON STONE and SUN STONE . Like what are those as minerals? OH and UNAKITE

[@mcmenace4847]

Giving a rock another name makes identification hard.

[@Chris65018]

Love your show. How do feel about the names Yuperlite and Mozarkite??

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Both are trade names which have been coined purely for marketing purposes from what I can tell.

[@bustedhammer]

I see Matt sent you some of Casey's beautiful "zipperstone" , nice!😂 I hope that "double-mint green jasper" turns out nice for you. It looks like it may be cracked through the middle. If it doesn't work out for you, hit me up. I have plenty slabed up, some has nice ocean scenes, some has great manganese dendrites, and some has both!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

It really did turn out nice, I just cut and end off it and it looks amazing! I was going to slab it up but now I think I'm just going to polish a cut face of it. Oh I would love to find some with manganese dendrites.

[@bustedhammer]

@@CurrentlyRockhounding some of the dendrites look like black snowflakes. Gives a real otherworldly look to the stone!

[@Rich_N]

Sometimes I think people “rename” things out of inadvertent ignorance- “sugar agates” being a good example. You probably have an inexhaustible supply of sh… stuff to be frustrated about just from a FB rockhounding group we’re both in. It’s far easier to “find the pretty rocks” than it is to do the book/desk work to identify them correctly.

[@snailforpresident]

While in a sense I agree, I do think theres something to be said about the accessibility of "cutesy" nicknames for the general public. While I generally agree that unnecassary, extraneous names just make things more complicated than they need to be, something like galaxy stone (while truly inaccurate and a poor choice in this particular instance) is much easier to say and much less intimidating for someone who may not have the educational background or relevant knowledge to understand the can of worms that is "amygdaloidal basalt". I think when done properly, you can simplify your explanation and terminology to keep it interesting and accessible to people with various knowledge bases without stripping it of its scientific validity, leaving room for questions and elaboration later on. My two cents is that cutesy nicknames are okay, as long as they are coupled with accurate education and remain just that, nicknames.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

You bring up a very valid point here and one that perhaps I didn't fully consider. I do want to make the hobby accessible to all and in a way common names does do that. I really liked your comment "y two cents is that cutesy nicknames are okay, as long as they are coupled with accurate education and remain just that, nicknames" I 100% agree with you here.

[@ciscodahkid01]

I absolutely agree with you on the rock naming, it so gets under my skin, unless there's a new rock discovered leave them alone. I'm new to the rock hounding bit and you people confuse the crap out of me. I'm not sure if folks don't know the name or forget the names so they throw something out there but please don't make it harder then it has to be by changing names of the rocks!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I have been doing this awhile and I still get confused by this stuff at times. The last thing we as a community need is other people making it more complex than it needs to be.

[@largent45]

I for one want to hear about the needed renaming! As for your rant, i understand it. But i dont rename rocks but i guess i help perletuate the renames be carried on. If i buy a piece of wonderstone, and i know it is wonderstone by the coloring and the patterning, i am aware that it is infact a rhyolite material. I will still call it wonderstone to distinguish it from all the other rhyolites out there. Just as i am aware that most picture jaspers arent infact jaspers at all. They are rhyolite. But to separate them apart they tend to have their trade names and they definitely arent a picture jasper! And i get it. Not everyone can come up with amigdolyoidal basalt when they are talking about it. And its true when they are cut and polished ans you look at some of the chalcedony filled hols you see what looks like little planets and such galaxy stone probably was a perfect explanation of what they were looking at. But that also doesnt mean that all amigdolyoidal basalt is a galaxy stone either. But i get you and there are too many new collectors and rockhounds that are being mis lead by trade names. But we cant correct someone that owns a claim and choses to call his fine by a catchy trade name. Its his claim and legaly he is entitled to call it what he wants. But true that if he brings that catchy named find of his to you and you call it what it is, a jasper, neither of you are wrong and both are equally right. So what are we supposed to do? I appreciate these rants and i while heartedly agree with you, but we cant change the status quo. People have been calling their finds catchy names to differentiate their claim find from everyone elses. And thats fine. But dont go out and find a piece of clearly jasper and call it a yellow agate. Or a piece of what is clearly a piece of rhyolite and call it an agate! Those are the things that really mislead people and tey to add value to their find where there is none! When a find is clearly an established material and is being called something it clearly is not. Thats like calling basalt an agate! Thanks Jared, im glad you are starting to feel better now. I appreciate everything you do here for the rockhounding community!

[@outdooradventureswithfayde6832]

Excellent comment, Lisa

[@1sec2midnight]

this is me to a T; But i get you and there are too many new collectors and rockhounds that are being mis lead by trade names. Thanks @largent45

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Your bring up a good point here about the wonderstone which I think is a really common name now and very widely accepted. The oldest reference I have seen using it was from the early 1950s. I think its fair to say there's not many people left that recall a time when that wasn't word being used. "But we cant correct someone that owns a claim and choses to call his fine by a catchy trade name. Its his claim and legaly he is entitled to call it what he wants." what if was a claim that was purchased and then renamed so now there are two names for exactly the same material? What if there has been three or four owners of the said claim renaming it something new every time? Is there a point at which we as a community throw up are hands and just say enough is enough? The way I see it if someone gets to rename things then I also get to express my dislike for the renaming. I am feeling much better now! :) As always I really appreciate your comments.

[@mattrichards1492]

I love jasper. I also love rhyolite. I've gotta get you some better lone juniper material!

[@NewZealandRocksDownunder]

Bugs me no end that banded calcite is marketed as onyx. Fluorescent sodalite branded as yooperlite but the case could be made that's where it is found as I understand it. Rainforest jasper is Rhyolite Bumblebee jasper isn't jasper

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I'm right there with you.

[@ocklawahaboyrocks]

T-egg beds get renamed all the time, just about every time the claim changes hands, because location collectors will hear a new name and buy a few, only to find out they already have some. Same thing with the jaspers. Gary green/freedom/whatever. There are a few old sources and old timers I hound with out there who know them all but someone needs to create a cross reference document to help the rest of us.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I have seen a number of beds get renamed and I just don't get it. It would be great if someone made a document of common names and which ones are connected and the same material.

[@stateofdisorder1]

Pink Amethyst 😂😂😂😂😂

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

:D

[@treasuresunderfoot7876]

I feel the same way Jared. Everytime I see someone refer to Basalt with agate filled vesicles as, Galaxy Stone, I shake my head in disappointment. Galaxy Stone sounds cool and people believe it when they hear the term and see the rock. But it doesn't describe the nature of the rock at all.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I would never fault someone for using these names because they likely just don't know better and heck I have made tons of mistakes myself but once something is pointed out to you as incorrect the reactions should be to try a learn from it and move forward with the correct thing and not double down on it which is what so many people seem to do.

[@dustinfindsrocks]

So a lot of people at Haunted Ridge have been calling the larger light brown quartz "root beer quartz" I am not sure what causes the color so I've been saying root beer quartz. Many people call it citrine! Definitely not citrine. There's so much variety to what can be found there it really seems like there could be some more names than just lace agate druse quartz. I dunno... Hope I don't make you mad lol. When I find out what the inclusion is that creates the root beer color I'll make sure to note it! I'm annoyed at the definition of druse. There needs to be a scale like when dose druse quartz become a cluster? I think everything there has the same crystal type most are tiny or small and some get relatively large. So I called them large point druse quartz. People were like ready to fight me on this saying they were quartz clusters. I don't know about that... The Missouri "quartz cluster" is very different from the typical Arkansas type that I think comes to mind when you hear quartz. I think in some cases we could use more names, but I definitely see your point. Calling rhyolite jasper is confusing and wrong. I feel like the rocks I'm finding though could use some extra names. I will not be using any names that subtract knowledge. Feel better soon man!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I think the examples you used here are perfectly good ones. I mean so long as the "root beer quartz" is in fact quartz as an example then have at it. I think if the quartz was dropped and you called Brown Sugar Crystals that would be way less good since that named removed what the material is. "when does druzy quartz become a cluster" good question and also not one that I have thought about before. As example I think the proper descriptive mineralogical term for something like a large quartz crystal with even a small small amount of druzy on it would be something like "quartz crystal with partial druzy coating of quartz". What makes something a cluster?

[@Mike-br8vb]

Gotta get me some of those zipper rocks! Jk. What is your thought about Mary Ellen Jasper? I keep hearing about it, but I've never done the research. I'd try google, but rather hear from an expert. Please advise. Thanks!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

If you're looking to hear from an expert on this stuff, it's not me! I'm just a guy who really likes rocks and has read a lot of books on these subjects. As for the Mary Ellen Jasper, all I really know about it is that its just a red ish jasper with some interesting patterns to it. I'm not really sure if its only coming from one places or if its a more broadly used name for a general pattern that can be found.

[@Mike-br8vb]

​@CurrentlyRockhounding well, whether you like it or not, you're an expert in my books. You done the studying, you do the research, and you've been in the field. You examine and interpret all things lapidary, you have done the experiments and tested the products, and went through all the processes. In my opinion, you ARE an expert. 🍻

[@gregoryboles9404]

Is it jasper or chert?

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Jasper

[@jeffwomack5821]

This reminds me of a friend I had that was always correcting people on language and spelling. He had a very high degree of education. I got tired of it and explained to him to calm down with degrading people because not everyone has the same level of education, and some have very little. That doesn't make them stupid. Chances are they didn't come from money and never had the opportunity he had but, in their world, they are probably smarter than him and he should accept them. I know very little about rocks, minerals and gems. I am just getting started in that world. Does it make me stupid if I don't know the name of a rock I like? That is my rant. Now a question, I am going to the areas between Kennewick and Clarkston next week. Are there any rocks I should be looking for in those areas?

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I see your point you're making but I guess I don't really think the comparison really applies here. My formal education is zero on these subjects by the way, I'm just a guy who really likes rocks and has for awhile now and I consistently try to learn more over time. To answer your question "Does it make me stupid if I don't know the name of a rock I like?" not at all! I have rocks and minerals in my collection that I think are really neat and I still have no idea what they are so they are just unknowns to me which is perfectly fine. However what I think isn't very fine is just picking a random name for things and running with it regardless of what anyone else says on the subject. It's all about progression over time I think. There's a few good places you can visit on the trip. Have you checked out the map on the website?

[@jeffwomack5821]

@@CurrentlyRockhounding On my way right now to the map. I agree if someone says that is not what you are calling it then that person goes to bed every night without learning anything. You are certainly not a beginner and the time you have invested shows. I am barely started, and I am anxious to learn.

[@ukrainef_poo-tin8917]

So if I don't know the name of the Rock and it would be okay just to call it a rock?

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

For sure! I have unknowns in my collection.

[@upperpeninsulabeautiful]

Oh and by the way...that awesome green piece of jasper...is that the one you're friend tossed to you? I love that piece...it's super duper!😀

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

It is!

[@valsummers5330]

Whew! Good thing we aren’t collecting Arthropoda

[@1erinjames]

Hope you, your wife and your furry babies get to feeling better!

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

Were getting there! Thank you :)

[@outdooradventureswithfayde6832]

Extrapolates....so then this is ash?! 😂 Drives me nuts especially when rhyolite gets tagged as jasper. And when a rock or fossil gets mispronounced Another one that infuriates me is yooperlite! Syenite with sodalite!!!! Dude acts like he discovered it. LMAO! Love SNS and your rants. Great job on the knife you made for Sarah's birthday btw.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I often struggle with some names and have mispronounced tons of things but I do try to improve with time and get better with it when someone points it out vs. getting upset and defensive. I think that the best thing do is just try and progress with this types of things. The Yooperlite is a bit hyped up isn't it. He sure did manage to create a highly marketed name didn't he. I wish he would have gone with something that maintained a connect to what the material actually is. What if it was just Great Lake Sodalite? What do you think of names like that?

[@outdooradventureswithfayde6832]

@CurrentlyRockhounding Great Lakes sodalite would be perfect actually because it says what it is and where it's found. It's not even only found in the upper peninsula, as its name implies. I used to pronounce chalcedony wrong. I felt so silly until I heard everyone in videos saying it properly. I would say cal-suh-donny. 😅

[@ceceliacochran2156]

The rockhound world is kinda full of junk information. Facebook being probably the worst of that. It seems the majority don't put an ounce of effort into learning any geologic science. I try to couch any comments I make with 'look up such and such, see what you think', partly because I'm not the super expert some are, partly because it is difficult to determine what some rocks are by a photo, partly to get them to put some energy into learning on their own (and becausei am just a crappy communicator in general - i can alienate peeps in the blink of an eye even when i am TRYING to be nice)(see the first sentence of my comment 😬). Scientifically rhyolite and jasper are very different- kinda like me deciding my dog is a cat and insisting to everyone it is so! The renaming bothers me a bit but not nearly as much as the extreme laziness of those who claim they love rocks or rockhounding but don't/ won't/ can't (which is another word for won't) bother to learn a damned thing 🤯!! 'Nuff said thanks for another great SNS.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

It sure can be a hard world to navigate and I agree people don't really want to put in the slightest effort it seems which is a little bit of a bummer to see really. "like me deciding my dog is a cat and insisting to everyone it is so" I love this! I don't expect any one to ever know anything but I do expect people to want to know more!

[@patrickliu4463]

That doesn't make any sense, I've seen you at the Healerite mines so many times now! Joking aside, rockhounds are like fishermen, they jump at the chance to name local stuff and market their local finds to a wider audience. Unfortunately sometimes the name is all that differentiates a rock that sells from one that sits in your yard. Back to the fishing metaphor, my uncle was a fishmonger and used to sell something he called "greyfish". it was shark. Couldn't sell it otherwise, but the moment he slapped on that title he couldn't keep it in the case for half a day. Yooperlites, Healerite, and one of the million types of rock called poppy jasper are all probably the same. It drives me up a wall too but advertising is everything in business, comrade.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

As many times as I have been there I never felt much healing. :) You bring up a very good point and one I didn't consider which is from the perspective of the salesmen which I am not. It really isn't a position I feel much for as someone who doesn't sell rocks but "sells" information about rocks in a way I lean away from the marketing point of view but I do you think you bring up a good point.

[@savagesquirrel9828]

I think, for clarity, give the real name, added by a.k.a. and then the cute name. I can think of bloodstone, for example, but I don’t know what it really is…metamorphic? Don’t know. I get bugged by silly renaming. P.T.O. Instead of P.T.A. I will not stop saying UFO……or B.C. I hope by now you feel better. Thanks.

[@ceceliacochran2156]

Trade names and cutsey names for rocks are one thing - like 'Jupiter or 'dragon' opal or the zillion different names for agates, depending on where they come from or their appearance. It's totally different taking one mineral and calling it by another minerals name. It's scientifically wrong. Agate and jasper are rockhound names for chalcedony - it's a big rabbit 🐇 hole 😂. I am with you completely - we'll just call it picture rhyolite, invent something new but at least correctly identify the mineral.

[@kerickwalters2749]

Can we at least keep leaverite 😅

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

HAHA yes! We can also keep 7upite for broken glass.

[@MidnightMinerals]

I'm totally not a fan of people taking rocks that are actually common across the country and giving them a new name. I can see a fairly uncommon, local assemblage of minerals be given a name. I'll use "Christmas Tree" rock. That always denotes Willemite and Calcite from the Franklin, NJ mineral district. Not a trademarked name. Nobody reserves the right to make a profit using the name. When there is a nice balance of the red and green under UV light. It kind of reminds us of a christmas tree. "Tiffany Stone" comes from a mine in Utah. I assume a private location and this name is a marketing name for that assemblage mined by that owner. There is much controversy over renaming a rock that is common to many states in the US with a name that is rooted in a very northern region. It is not a mineral assemblage specific to the region. I'm not going to call it out and give more publicity to it. But as you can imagine, some folks applaud it. But many folks are not happy about it.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I find the whole subject to be massively frustrating. The world of rocks and minerals is already complex enough without adding things like this to it.

[@mpaulk2023]

So you and I are similar in things being renamed, or in my case, nick-named and renamed, lol. What gets under my skin so extremely much is the renaming of specific things that, for the majority of my life, were something else entirely. For example; what's a wildfire? Why is it now called a 'wild'fire, and not just a fire? Is it because someone one day decided that it needed to be called 'wild' because it was tame before getting out of control? Was it because someone wanted to be more dramatic with the use of 'wild'? To me, that use of the term 'wildfire' is redundant and useless. It gives no point to what the fire really is, and thus, should never be used. What kind of 'wild'fire is it really? In definition to its purest of form, it a forest fire? Is it a car fire? I mean, I guess it could be a grease fire or bbq that just got lit for that matter, right?? Call it what it is, not what sounds most dramatic or best in your mind people. A 'wildfire' is STILL JUST A FIRE. Ugh. Stop sounding so uneducated and dramatic, world. It does nothing by make you yourself sound, and look stupid. Lol sorry, rant over. :-) Thank you for the video btw; I can't wait to see what the other knives look like finished!!! Are you considering the idea of at least filming the cutting of some of the green Jasper? I'd love to see the center of that piece and compare it to the currently visible portions we're looking at now :-)

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I can speak to the fire thing a little bit. The term wildfire referees uncontrolled and unpredictable fires the natural environment vs something like a structure fire in the city, I think its really to just draw a distinction between them. I do see your point and agree with you. I will for sure show more of this green jasper, I took a cut off it and it looks amazing.

[@FeldwebelWolfenstool]

..."Auralite 23"...the creators have stunk out everyone else in their area with their bs...

[@sstimac]

I hate the stupid tradenames and pet names people apply to rocks and minerals.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

I'm also not a fan. I try hard not to use them but sometimes I do when having a conversation with someone who is also using them.

[@jeffdillenberg8708]

I also am bothered by large amounts of disinformation with names to help market minerals. I live near Lake Superior and hear about an incorrect named rock all the time. Wanna squash the slang term of yooperlite and educate people in fluorescent sodalite syenite? They are impressive minerals that someone came up with a clever name for, but in actuality, our regional ones come from Canada.

[@CurrentlyRockhounding]

The Yooperlite thing is one thing that has came up as gripe of many people and I must admit I have been guilty of using it in conversations in the past but I do try to say something now to the effect of "Here is a sodalite and syenite which has the common name of yooperlite" I'm honestly a little surprised how fast that name caught on.

[@Uselessthoughts1659]

Rename Oregon fire opal its just red Opal.Real fire opal is from Mexico.😂