SNS 225 Part 2: Weld Bosses for Table Legs

[@joenet42567]

Congratulations on 200,000 subscribers. Not hard to see why you do so well. Your love of the work and tools of the trade comes through in every video. Also your attention to detail and quality of the finished product says a lot about you personally. Love your videos and thanks for the work you do to keep them coming.

[@lencost1]

Watching, and listening to the shaper is calming, and therapeutic.

[@tuscanland]

Machining my projects while listening to you machining your projects.

[@raincoast2396]

Tooling up. Its a never ending project for any shop. The tools just get slowly better all the time.

[@dtedder224]

Thank you so much for all your content. Seriously, I look forward to your SNSs every week. I dabble in machining and welding but my career is in a different field. Your level of detail and thought process presented helps my dabbling. I do what I can to support you on Patreon. Your professionalism and good nature inspire me. Thank you.

[@Abom79]

Thanks Dave!

[@davidcurtis5762]

I could watch that Shaper do it's thing all day long, love it.

[@johnapel2856]

It's probably getting old, but I love watching and listening to the shaper work. I see the posters are up too. Cool. Good video. Thanks.

[@MaturePatriot]

You can tell a machine a man truly love to use, he'll use it even when he doesn't have to. - Got distracted, and got the tip stuck. lol - Great video.

[@andypandy9931]

I love seeing your shaper work Adam, it reminds me of when I was an apprentice toolmaker . We has two which would square up blocks to be made into valves. I remember grinding the tools and setting them but we never took the depth of cuts you do, only about 0.250 inches, in those days the UK worked in Imperial like you, not the metric shit we have now.

[@thepunk4hire359]

Recognize, you could of done the table legs in the mill much faster, but the pure joy of watching the shaper do them get's you a big thank you!

[@ranchlingger]

The Punk4Hire an end mill long enough to do them in the mill would probably be a little expensive. I would have faced them in the 4 jaw.

[@thepunk4hire359]

I was think in the horizontal with the big face mill he received a little while back.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

I love that old shaper ! What great things the parallels and spiders are. Oh how I wish I had these.Great vid today. The bench is a dream fella !

[@lookcreations]

NIce job for the shaper Adam. It surprises me how much back rake MS will take on a shaper and not be a problem. Thanks for sticking with the shaper vids' always enjoy seeing your machine cutting. All the best Mat

[@chrisnjolliffe1]

The shaper really does make understanding SFM, DOC, and WOC, a visual learning experience.

[@AaronBelknap]

There is nothing more satisfying than watching steel being squared on a shaper! I really like that shaper. You're looking good too Adam! losing weight, feeling better I bet. I'm a buttermilk biscuit under 300lbs but I'm losing weight, had to get my diabetes under control, most of my biological family has diabetes, bad hearts etc. It's in my genes. But I digress, great video's I love your work. Those drill bits are nice and sharp, I love it!

[@infoanorexic]

Ha! I've got a very old Eagle bottom plunker that had the same thing happen to it. Now I don't feel quite so bad about it. It did actually give me a bit more control on when oil came out of the tip, so I haven't bothered to try opening it back up. Very good for putting a very small amount of oil in a very specific spot.

[@lazaglider]

20:18 'Extremely sexy' 'Oh, almost got the tip stuck in there' Context is a wonderful thing!

[@shortribslongbow5312]

Really like watching the shaper at work. Fascinating piece of machinery..

[@ddcd53]

Another nice job and well done video. I'm glad to see you back in the shop and working again. Dan

[@stephenwagar2663]

What A Great Video !!! And I Like The New Shop Apron !!! Triple Thumbs Up !!!

[@JamesDedmon]

I Ike the spider for the chuck. I have an older tap chart, it actually shows 3 or 4 percentages if thread. I sometimes use 50% thread on the tool dovetail mod because I locktite the studs and the tool holder steel is so tough

[@geckoproductions4128]

Use osopho on raw tubing to prep for paint. It leaves a white powder when dry (two or three days). In South Texas we use it to prep salvage drill stem we use on the ranch for fence corner posts, gates, etc. Should cost less than 20/gal at big box lumber yard.

[@georgegeller1902]

Nice work, Adam. It's good to see that G&E shaper paying back some of that love you lavished on it.

[@havocnme8977]

Can't wait for this table to come together.

[@joeziegler9054]

Just ordered my Booth Machine Shop T-shirt Adam! Cant wait to wear it! Awesome vids again buddy. Glad to see you are recovering well. Have a great week Adam! Looking forward to seeing more vids soon!!

[@Abom79]

Thanks Joe! Hope you enjoy the new threads!

[@joeziegler9054]

You're welcome my friend! Just doing my small part to try and help fund your channel. I appreciate what you do. Your content is very interesting to me because this is what I do for a living also. Keep up the good work Adam. Hope one day to meet you in person.

[@rshotty9039]

drives me absolutely crazy watching my twist drills go into a center hole and see them wobble all the hell out of round.

[@jefferdman5921]

Nice work! Always got to be careful that you do not get distracted from your work by a lady!! LOL almost lost the tip of your oiler. Thanks for sharing.

[@yambo59]

This has been another Zen moment from Abom machine - go big or go home.

[@StreuB1]

Adam, another thing to talk about in an SNS at some point is why you always want to snug up your drill chucks on more than one hole. Especially a precision chuck like the Jacobs N series. I don't think a lot of people know that you want to spread out the load on the chuck internals as well as getting a tighter bite on what you are putting into the chuck than tightening just one hole. This is a good episode. For the two drill sizes for the taps. My dad and grandpa always called those "Machine tap" and "Express tap" size drills. I think Ive seen a drill chart call out the "Express" before but can't remember.

[@Abom79]

Good stuff Brian. 👍🏻

[@twistedmyshackle]

Brian Streufert z

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

That's going to be a great table Adam! Word of caution though, don't get it too close to the shaper. That end of the shop might start to sink :)

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Super awesome , Great to have you back ! ENJOYED .. Going to a great table !

[@StevenAndrews]

the overkill of the machining on the legs to put adjusters in pleases me greatly. the detail and accuracy where it just doesn't even matter is fun to watch. you can force someone lazy to do something accurately, but you can't force someone accurate to do something sloppy.

[@brianwalk108]

on the bright side, he has nice, fresh, clean metal to keep the welds happy =)

[@MegaCountach]

Looking good Adam!

[@tbonerox2806]

“Extremely sexy” “Almost got the tip stuck in there”

[@Sugarkraft]

I’m hypnotized.👍👍

[@allanhodgson5473]

Great job for the shaper Adam.

[@gottfriedschuss5999]

Hi Adam, With all of the modern cutting lubes, I, like you, still stick to old fashioned dark sulfurized cutting oil (DSCO) for steel over about 1/4" tapping and threading. Unlike other "lighter" duty lubricants, I never have a problem with chip welding with DSCO. If staining isn't a problem, I'll use it on non-ferous metals as well. Ridgid and Black Swan are my go to DSCOs. I love the smell of DSCO in the morning.

[@PeterWMeek]

Not a use for a shaper that I would have ever thought of. I always really enjoy your shop videos. And yep, you have about 0.005" of shimming to do on that tailstock; note that unlike cutting to see whether it cuts a taper, direct measurement means you make the adjustment for the full indicated difference. You have to paint over those rust-conversion products. They make an excellent primer (once they have converted the rust and turned black), but they are neither weather-proof nor abrasion resistant.

[@TechGorilla1987]

Abby comes in the shop and you almost get the tip stuck. There is serious AvE joke in that there statement!

[@flatblack39]

Then he says "This is how a machinist taps a hole" lol

[@robevans8555]

:( am at work with no earphones, automatic like for Adam 👍

[@TTR_SLD]

Hi Abby! Adam you gotta teach her how to do some machining. if she has any projects she needs something made, it would be cool to show her how to make it with your guidance. -if she's interested

[@CapeCodCNC]

Adam are you sure those legs are going to be strong enough? I think you will only be able to hold 2 maybe 3 battleships at once! ;-)

[@williamsquires3070]

Cape Cod CNC - 4 to 5, if they’re pocket battleships!

[@keith73z28]

Cool. Now what, Machine Shop Grey? I hope to be a small part of the Machining community here on KZbin eventually. I Definately share the same interests and have observed you are about the coolest bunch of folks I Have ever stumbled upon. Thanks Adam.

[@jrneff9773]

i worked with a old machinist he was 90 years old in 1994 but dang he could lay down some tooling fast. Sitting at the break room table said his boat had a full machine shop in mills drills whatever they needed he did say they got into trouble one day trying to get out fast they through the whole machine shop and welding shop over board yes that what the man told me. its kinda weird those of us never been on a bout to have a full machine shop welding shop etc but they do thus day

[@Tf9500]

Another great video! Thanks Adam

[@StreuB1]

One of these days I really want to hear you say "Because I can and because I want to; this is fun for me" when it comes to telling the audience why you are doing something. I know people heckle a bit here and there about how you are doing things and they think some things are a waste of time. But the only person you need to justify why you are doing something to, is you. :-) "My shaper, my toy, my fun time."

[@Abom79]

You mean I shouldn't answer the "what exactly is the advantage of using a shaper over a mill?"

[@mattmanyam]

I look at it as "students asking questions", even if some aren't very elegant in their line of questioning... (As per any classroom)

[@randomdude1786]

next thing you know you'll see one at ikea for $150. nice quiet cut on that square tube no arguments even through the seem always appreciate the close-up of the bit to steal some ideas good to see ya and abby's toes

[@SynchroScore]

For all the people complaining about you spending all that effort on buying and shipping and restoring the shaper, here's your answer. How else do they propose squaring up those tube ends? Get a 5" long end mill and hope you don't wreck it on that weld? Stand the tube up, bolted to the front of the milling machine table, and indicate the sides perpendicular to the table? Set it in a four-jaw chuck on the lathe and hope that you've got a great big through spindle? No, just set it in the shaper vise and set the automatic downfeed, and sit back and watch, making sure you don't get chips flying at you.

[@charlesdeens8927]

OSHA approved open toed flip flops 😀 😁 😂 🤣

[@brianwalk108]

Congrats on breaking 200k subs!!!

[@JimmysTractor]

Those Starrett frames look good in the background.

[@Capt1331]

That's funny my old boss would make me make a test drill and check it for size and wanted 75% min... He use to say you Americans make a lot of scrap... lol He was in Hitler's army panzer Div.. and his father was a gun maker... Outstanding craftsmen. I do miss him. he taught me sooo much..

[@doctwiggenberry5324]

Good job, I read further down the line and I too was going to turn you into OSHA for the non compliant flip flops...but never mind.

[@jasonbell5905]

I like that old Victor machine ⚙️

[@rcn11thacr77]

If you run into problems with the other product, OSPHO works quite well for converting rust.

[@denniswilliams8747]

I wonder if hockey pucks would work in shop made feet. Thanks

[@MaturePatriot]

I bought a dozen to try that very thing on my lathe. It don't weigh as much a that table.

[@noelhenderson700]

Yes indeed, hockey pucks would work but be careful of loading.

[@armchairmachinist2416]

Nice video like always. By the way, did you know that those yellow feet have built in height adjustment? If you unscrew the stud the black rubber part will slide in the yellow housing under the machine weight, and if you screws it in it will push it out. I’ve got those feet’s on my mill. Thanks and keep up the good work.

[@HighTechLab]

With the shaper, could you, in theory, make a double side tool so that it cuts on the forward stroke and the backward stroke? Would the machine be capable?

[@randynewtonsr9659]

HighTechLab I do not think that is possible because the “clapper box” mechanism is hinged and therefore I believe only works on the push stroke!

[@brianwalk108]

thats correct, also the down feed would have to feed at both ends of the stroke, not sure what that would take. The stroke is also engineered to move faster on the back stroke to increase productivity, so it would affect your speeds. It might be possible to make it work, but would require more modifications than just a different tool.

[@Abom79]

The table or tool head is only advanced on the return stoke.

[@jamesrobinson9494]

good work thank you

[@musicbro8225]

I keep trying to think of an easy way to lift the clapper on the back stroke, drawing a blank though, heh. Glad to hear the weight is coming off bro :)

[@jimboknife7272]

It's pretty bad ass to have a machine that excels at interrupted cuts.

[@joegarrett7580]

There you go. Showing off to Abby and almost got your oiler tip ripped off. :)

[@capt.kennethabney8789]

FlipFlops are the official state shoe in Florida.

[@Sharklops]

I liked Abby's safety sandals.

[@StevenAndrews]

Sharky Sharklops equivalent to safety squints

[@OffAndOnTheRange]

Question Adam. My thought when you fit those bosses was: Why didn't he make the smaller diameter square(ish) on the shaper. What would the advantages and disadvantages be for doing them that way?

[@johnferguson7235]

Abom gets PHOTO-BOMBED by Abbie.

[@NoelBarlau]

I need a "Shaper Life" sticker.

[@RobertKohut]

Nice!! You really got a "leg" up on the shaper!!....LOL :-)

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Yeah a big leg compared to my little atlas 7 shaper.......:)

[@bluecrewnuke]

I see a lot of turning operations that are run without cutting oil. How is it determined that cutting oil is needed for any given task?

[@jimgrady7458]

OSHA approved flip-flops? Thanks, first good laugh I had in a week

[@louiskeen8475]

How do you like the Duluth Trading apron you have in this video?

[@321ajilla]

Are you gonna paint those pads?

[@leecwilkin]

hi Adam, is the lube system still working ok? the top rails on the shaper look dry, and you aren't using pig mat to catch the excess

[@thunderstruck1078]

Looks awesome. You can't buy such a good table, I don't think. Can you reveal how much will it cost you in materials. And possibly, if you were ordered to build such a table for a customer, how much would you charge him?

[@rickbrandt9559]

Lot of knowledge/skill stored in that brain, any plans for pass it on? Other than your excellent video productions.

[@brianwalk108]

LOL, i call dibs on apprenticeship openings!

[@Abom79]

For now it’s going on KZbin.

[@randynewtonsr9659]

Nicely done Adam , that is gonna be one heavy duty table sir!!👍 Those plates on the floor looked to be about 3/4 or 1 inch thick , are those the ones your using for the tabletop?

[@mute8s]

Of course right when Abby shows up you almost get the tip stuck. That's never a good thing. Like AvE would say "I promise, just the tip and just for a second" Keep up the good work.

[@longcaster]

Adam, will the magnets attract swarf and chips into the chuck?

[@juancornetto8243]

Hey Adam, Would it make more sense to mill two flats on each boss and not weld them in so you can rotate them to level the table? I can't see those rubberised feet wanting to spin with 1/2 ton of table pushing down?

[@thunderstruck1078]

Only the nut has to move in order for table to come up. Or am I missing something here?

[@juancornetto8243]

Don't think so. The nut is just to lock after adjustment. The bosses are threaded...

[@thunderstruck1078]

You're right, I just re-watched that part to check. Therefore, you have a very valuable suggestion, it seems to me. Those feet won't easily budge under load.

[@Abom79]

The bosses will be welded to the tubes. Rubber feet will be adjusted then locked with the hex nut.

[@stevehansen5389]

Why didn't you use the shaper to make square bottoms for the posts and bore them on with a 4 jaw chuck?

[@m-s-a-g]

Very cool👍👍👍👍👍

[@Jerrodplanck]

They could maybe change the design to where the parallels are pinned for easy and accurate replacement.

[@TarisRedwing]

what surface you going to use for the table top?

[@douglasferguson4711]

Great video!

[@Hui9697]

Hey Adam, Here in Scotland I've used a product made by Hammerite called KRUST, a watery milky liquid that converts rust to a black primed surface like the product you describe. Be prepared to be amazed if yours works like mine did. Quite expensive though but worth every penny (cent)

[@ColtaineCrows]

I've used this from many different vendors, Hempel, Northstar/Lusid, Brunox, Biltema, Bilt Hamber etc etc. Never encountered one that didn't work, but ymmv when it comes to the durability of the coat, pretty much the only difference I've noticed. But as long as you prime and paint over it later or keep it indoor it lasts pretty much forever.

[@TheCool913]

Just curious, but how well does the HSS tools handle the rough return stroke. I would think with it banging on the material so many times that I would dull the tool quickly.

[@sandy1653]

Funny observation: The auto-subtitles from KZbin think the sound of the shaper squaring off those tubes is music.

[@joopterwijn]

Really Abom table!

[@kirkpennock2997]

Table gona be very strong I think. You put a round part in a square hole:).

[@camprose]

when we going to see some real big boy chips out of the G&E???

[@Trancelebration]

Never leave metal surface after using rust converter surface as is without proper primer and paint. It sucks moisture from the air and metal is rusting inside. When the paint bubbles its to late.

[@rldoyle5705]

you'll be able to work on a D9 dozer on that table i like it

[@Bbake92]

"almost got the tip stuck in there"

[@wktodd]

Clapperbox speaking its name :-) Is there a auto lift option for the machine?

[@daniel_6741]

Hey Adam, Nice to see you back here. Did you fix the oil leakage of the ways of your shaper? The left one always dropped some oil, seemed hard to figure out the reason for that big amount of oil right on that spot.

[@Sharklops]

just fyi, the "F" designation on the Eagle oiler model number indicates "flexible" and not "fine"

[@sonicbluecoupe]

Great job as always. I have a question for you. How can I get in touch? Thanks justin

[@boringlyawesum]

i was thinking no center drill? and was gonna comment, but just as i was about to type you said center drill. glad i didn't leave a dumb comment.

[@danielesilvaggi]

Hello, I bought an 8" bench grinder and it came with some cheap grinding wheels that I find are to soft as the particles seem to come of really easy and I would like to know which 2 grinding wheels I should get? I plan on using it for grinding mild steel aluminium and stainless steel (not tool steel yet). Love watching your channel, keep up the good work. Thank you

[@jonka1]

Are those wheels green? If so they could be the special one for sharpening carbide. Don't waste them on regular work.

[@garyscoville7741]

Hey Adam. Gary from CT. I was wondering why you didn't cut the metal feet on the milling machine instead of turning them on the lathe?

[@Abom79]

Keeping it simple

[@dennisleadbetter7721]

Hi Adam, shouldn't you have the clapper box holder tilted the opposite way so when the clapper box lifts on the back stroke it move the tool away from the workpiece? Nice finished surface.

[@pyalot]

I think the tilt is set correctly. Imagine the plane of rotation (perpendicular to the axis of rotation). The higher you go on that plane, the further you get away from the workpiece. As the clapper rotates on the back stroke, it lifts the tool higher on that plane, therefore away from the workpiece. If you set the tilt the other way it would rub against the cut surface on the backstroke.

[@Abom79]

It’s set correctly