SNS 315: Rockford 60" Openside Shaper

[@andrewcourt5156]

A bit off topic, but just a thanks to Adam and the other youtube contributor in the metalwork, machining etc field for going to the time and effect of documenting their skills. I am a long time viewer and today I was able to put some of what I had learnt into practice. I had a small lathe job so I “dusted off” my old little chinese lathe and then said “How would Adam B or Keith F or Keith R do this”? a) give the lathe a good clean and lub what should be lubed, tighten what should be tight etc. b) write down all the important measurements and do a little sketch. c) Think about the order I should do each step in, to avoid having to put the piece back into the lathe etc. d) Indicate in the round stock, face the end, drill the end and use the dead centre. e) Take small cuts first to learn about this bit of material. f) THERE IS NO HURRY... TAKE YOUR TIME. g) If you make a boo boo...STOP. Do not compound the problem!.. think about how you can rescue the situation. h) Do not get greedy with your depth of cut, “sneek up” on your final measure and plan that your final cut will be very light and tidy things up.. After several hours work I had a very proffessional looking piece that I could be super proud of... pity it is going to be buried away inside the final product, where nobody can see it!! Thanks for your help

[@dawoodjr]

Congratulations, Andrew. I’m sure the folks you mentioned will be very pleased that you put their hard work to such good use.

[@andrewcourt5156]

Somebody I missed from my original post was Tom Lipton.. gee he does nice work.. One other thing I note from all these people is that they only have one level of workmanship... top level! , if they are make an item for a paying customer or just a jig or holding fixture to aid the making of something, holes are countersunk, edges are camfered / deburred, made shiny with a bit of scotchbright etc... Also there is no substitute for the correct tool for the job..

[@Maximusprimeatyahoo]

All those machines are older than you my friend, Those machines helped build America. Great Video my friend.

[@Maximusprimeatyahoo]

@Tsunauticus III you are just like myself. I was looking for the brand name on that forklift myself. lol

[@erneststorch9844]

I also operated a close side planer for almost a year . It was about 12 a footer planning new turret lath beds from raw castings. That for Waner & Swasey in Solon, Ohio in 1972 . I was 21

[@Bookerb2004]

Making your dad proud everyday AdamI, all day everyday...love it.!! still a big fan brother

[@joshuaclark77]

I have a machine shop in Rockford IL. It is nice to see some old extremely fine quality machines still being used from Rockford. We were once very important in the machine tool and fastener industry with a lot of history.

[@wdhewson]

A bunch of good old boys cooperating and looking out for each other. That's the formula for greatness.

[@Abom79]

Yessir!👍🏻

[@infango]

everytime i am starting to watch abom79 video i am thinking: machining is his passion but spanish guitar is his real love ;)

[@neilpuckett359]

Good one lolol.

[@raybame5816]

It's interesting to feel your appreciation for old, well made American equipment. Here in CT, we had all that stuff you're now buying as used, in places like Fafnir Bearing, Stanley Tools, New Britain Machine, Pratt & Whitney Machine Tool, New Departure etc. They're all gone now and with them the jobs and machinery they used to help build America (and the world). I like your appreciation of these old machines and with that, the historical significance of these tools. I'm glad to see this equipment put to good use by a skilled businessman.

[@bpain9781]

Am I the only one that thinks this machine is beautiful? Proud for you Abom!

[@dsinclairTUBE]

That Liugong 856H with forks is a beast of a machine. this guy plays for keeps... wow.

[@mgmnfld3109]

Hey Adam, I've followed your channel for a while now and it's great to see you happily married, in better shape, getting your shop and home the way you want it. Your work fascinates me, the process of turning some of the hardest raw materials in the world into anything you want / need to.

[@mannys9130]

He seems like such a nice guy and I'm glad that he's been doing the shaper work even though others try to bully him about it.

[@Abom79]

Thanks Forest 👍🏻

[@mgmnfld3109]

@@Abom79 You're surely welcome Adam. I also love the cooking videos. I love me some BBQ. We don't have the best of summers here in St. Philip's, Newfoundland, Canada. All the best to you and Abby and your Mom and Fernando. Stay safe with all this Covid craziness.

[@MrHowieZ1973]

Lol I spit out my coffee when you said, There is Johns little loader. Lmao :) . You always manage to find the guys that know how to handle big heavy stuff.

[@MetrologyEngineer]

Getting a "new" machine is one of my favorite things ever!!! I always feel like a kid on Christmas.

[@thebrothers3971]

I used to work building power transformers in the UK 15 years ago. We brazed copper together using Eutectic products. They are good.

[@outoftheirskulls5676]

In JAWS they needed a bigger boat; now you need a bigger shop :) Nice machine, looks clean.

[@doctor2bob]

Gotta love those safety flip flops.

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

If you have the printed manual for the new shaper and the parts book, would they form the Rockford Files?

[@Broken_Yugo]

Not enough high speed u turns and flying hubcaps.

[@dominikgs]

Aaaah when the machine retracts that would be the Rockford turnaround 😂

[@emeryarturo8991]

i know I'm pretty randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to watch new series online ?

[@titusariel84]

@Emery Arturo flixportal :D

[@emeryarturo8991]

@Titus Ariel Thank you, I signed up and it seems to work =) I appreciate it!

[@bobrobert6277]

it is rare thing for a company to gives you stuff after you already promoted their product very nice of them

[@AbbeyRoad69147]

Adam, you need a 12-step program to get off shaper addiction.

[@abpsd73]

0.010" step over

[@neilgillmore]

You'll be getting Chip of the Year with that Behemoth !!!!!!

[@stephenhope7319]

I remember using Eutectic welding rods as an apprentice welder in England in the late 70's. They were made in Ireland, a subsidiary, obviously. Great rods for cast iron ( nickel) and good quality 7018 for vertical and overhead. Wow, been 43 years since then. I immigrated to Ca in 81 and spent 34 years as a welder in the Sheet Metal Workers Union, just retired at 58 last summer. Love your channel.

[@ian666if]

Eutectic! Brings back memories, I used the early metal spraying equipment about fifty years back when I was an apprentice. Never had the chance to use it since though.

[@jakeo2600]

As a retired 597 union fitter, I can vouch for Eutectic welding rods. Their 3/32 7018 was were some of the best welding rods I ever used. Just my 2 cents worth.

[@donreed5439]

Brings back memories, ran a shaper,planer and a slotter at Chevy Buffalo in 1974.

[@Sixta16]

I am amazed as how do people in the US of A help each other out, across different companies or shops.

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

We're all in it together, the rest have no heart...many in the US also have no heart

[@ricklittge4438]

I was first exposed to Eutectic welding in 1967 in a machine shop in Mulberry FL. I went to work at Florida Metalizing for my uncle. We did work for the phosphate mines in that area of the state.

[@SuperSrjones]

I first used eutectic products 48 years ago Clever stuff.

[@TLervis]

And the battle for Shaper Supremacy continues.

[@johnsawyer2516]

Now we know the difference between a shaper an open sided shaper and a planer. Thanks Adam.

[@JOHNNYPIE3221hodge]

I have watched at least 20 vids of yours so far. My dad worked at FORD MOTOR COMPANY- "Tool and Die Maker," for 30 yrs. and retired in 1980. He always had what he'd call "Government Jobs" always wondered what that meant. I can sit and watch all these vids all day! It brings back many memories.

[@rayp.454]

Adam, I believe that is a planer, when the table, or work moves under the cutter it is a planer. Have fun with it. Looking forward to some cutting videos.

[@baggerf14]

I was excited when you said you got a new shaper. Bummed when you said you weren’t going to fire it up for a while. What a tease!

[@CH-pt8fz]

We used call any machine that the table/job moved and not the tool a Planer and any machine where the tool moved a shaper and of course any machine that cuts the same way as a shaper internally a slotter. But they all are shapers at the end of the day, and I'm in the UK lol. And of course if the manufacturer calls it a shaper it's a shaper. I'm very envious of you Adam it looks a magnificent machine you'll be able to do some serious abom cut's on that machine.

[@crjudd]

It is always good to have friends with big machines!

[@jean-philippestiee3527]

Whatever the weight, the material, the purpose of what we got, we are definitely kids. Serious kids, with money, but kids. That makes our passion. Nice new toy :)

[@flatblack39]

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys!

[@tomk3732]

It is great you rescued that planer - large machines such as that usually end up as scrap as no one has home shop large enough or transport capability to deal with one. Its not even floor space - imagine for rigidity you should have a strong foundation.

[@AvenEngineer]

Unloading a vintage 60" Rockford with a new LiuGong loader. Times have changed. Can't wait to see you bring the Rockford back to work, she's Thicc!

[@andrewstoll4548]

More shaper video to annoy the hell out of some people. Can't wait.

[@chascarpenter5006]

Just love the shaper work Adam does.

[@deepierce5030]

@@chascarpenter5006 agreed. I enjoy all the shaper vids and I love the finish left behind. @Abom79 thanks for all your videos. It has taken me nearly two months to catch up on all your videos and I really appreciate your time and effort you put into every video no to mention the machine work you practice. Thank you for being an inspiration to me during this tough time for my family and I not to mention the millions otherwise affected by the pandemic.

[@akfarmboy49]

Andrew Stoll you crack me up

[@ArloDahMan]

Nice little found! The tabel with clamped workpieces is moving against the feeded tool: this is a planer in Germany. If the tool is moving against the feeded workpiece we call it a pusher.

[@argee55]

Can’t wait to see the new shaper running. Great package from Eutectic.I always loved using their tig and brazing rods.

[@Toms4speed]

Little loader he said.. haaa! Congrats, looking forward to see it making parts.

[@MrPossumeyes]

You saw Keith's shaper restoration and got shaper envy didn't you, Adam. 😁

[@richardmartin6533]

I can't wait to see you move it into the spare bedroom since the workshop is already full...lol

[@65BAJA]

Dang. That new shaper is a monster.

[@annkoehler8017]

I'm so excited for him, and looking forward to the day that he'll be able to use it!!! Great video!

[@schmidt028]

The home Hyster is definitely a “next purchase Adam” 🤣🤣🤣😉🤘

[@z06doc86]

That Fred sure is a traveling man.

[@otacon72]

Taking a queue from Roy Scheider in Jaws...I think you’re gonna need a bigger shop. 😂

[@neilpuckett359]

That spray welding technology is amazing.

[@davidcolwill860]

Good to see a pair of safety flip flops in action when unloading the engine!

[@krosskaien8618]

Wow, machine size is one thing but I imagine loading that with something worthy of its capacity will likely require some cranes or lifts. Seems like someone's going to need a new workspace :D Anyhow real happy for you, I can't wait to see it in action at your shop.

[@jamby426]

When I ran one of these in the late 60's it was called a Rockford 5' planer. It was one of our newer smaller planers and the adjustable stop helps keep you from waking up with it raining spikes. spikes: used to hold down thin plates while surfacing.

[@scaletownmodels]

Now the really hard part.. the waiting between getting and using. It's funny how much a monster the shaper looks on the trailer, then how much a toy it looks carried by that massive loader. Awesome stuff.

[@silverbullet7434]

Cut my teeth on one like it during my apprenticeshiped way back in 1975. Even made special hold downs for it in my own shop. Great shapers Good luck with her.

[@WAVETUBE84]

Thanks for sharing Adam. Wow! What a great bunch of guys. Hats off to Eutectic. That was a generous load of goodies. You are the spray weld dude. The Eutectic Spray Weld System "saves the day" in various ways; time, money... You are one of the first KZbin authors to demonstrate the process and its performance. And you command a big audience.

[@Abom79]

Thanks! I love the process and enjoy sharing it with my audience. 👍🏻

[@your_utube]

Clearly a machine worthy of being associated with Abomb79. Ask anyone. If it ain't huge, it ain't no Abomb79!

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

LOL lndeed

[@gregwarner3753]

I was a Machine Repairman in the Navy. I think all machines should be repaired and none should be scrapped. Would you scrap a Rodan statue? NO! These should not be scrapped. Scrapping machine art is a sin.

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

I agree whole heartedly. I don't even like the word 'scrapper', freakin waste of work!!

[@Omnis2]

Abom, you're such a size queen.

[@gorillaau]

Size does matter, despite some people trying to claim otherwise.

[@susscrofa5485]

Many years since seeing a Eutectic rep, used to get all my spray powders and silver solders from them...

[@StevenHess]

Adam this is an awesome machine. You need a much bigger shop for sure now.

[@richardandrews6754]

Hi Adam, hope this finds you well, what a fabulous machine can not wait to see this one working!

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

Looks like more concrete and building Adam, congrats....ready to see this big boy in action.

[@vijayantgovender2045]

Thank you Adam I always enjoy watching your videos I am from South Africa

[@carloscordero4204]

Hey Adam good video you have acquired all this machines got too start setting them up and using them can not wait to see thanks

[@johnsullivan7633]

I have used the 16FC rod many years ago and they are great! And the 680 rods are fantastic. expensive, but when it does the job, they are worth it. That was 35 years ago!

[@cl4367]

I cant wait to see that beast making some chips. love the videos. thanks Adam.

[@davidhorsley1149]

That's a light one! I scrapped one of those out that had a 10' table, about 30 years ago. I had to un-bolt the tower with the arm on it, inside of that was a 1000# counter weight. Then I had to cut the base into two pieces after manually running the table to one end. One half of the base with the transmission and table weighed 14,800#. They loaded that on my truck with a Komatsu wheel loader that made the one in the video seem tiny. The Komatsu had the bucket on it with eyes that we chained the bed to. When the operator curled the bucket, the weight mashed the front tires to less than half the sidewall height and bent two links of a 24,000# chain at a 90 degree angle where they went over the cutting edge of the bucket. Also, the drive shaft that stuck out of the side of the base punched a perfectly round 3" hole in the bed of my truck (1/4" steel plate), when they set that piece on the truck. When I got to the scrap yard was the time when I really began to sweat. The piece was too heavy for the hoist on my truck to dump, so they magged it off of the truck. I didn't get nervous until that operator lifted it in the air about 8' or 10' over the bed before he swung it from over the truck. I knew if that magnet failed, that piece of machine was not going to be the only thing sold that day for scrap.

[@robinhoff4598]

Way beyond my skill level but right on for enjoyment. Thank you Adam from an old guy in Southern California

[@0ADVISOR0]

WOOHO Abom using the seatbelt! I love it.

[@shawngoldsberry747]

The safety man will get you if you don't.

[@loufaiella3354]

Great machine to your inventory. Suggest: have someone put covers on all openings to keep out the mice, and oil everything that could rust. Stay safe!

[@craigtate5930]

Wow, must be that time of year that we all bring home new machines. I just got a Cochrane bly mill a couple weeks ago that I have also started doing videos on.

[@austinbeimers4440]

Adam your going to need one giant shop soon

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

Sweet machine for sure. Time for a bigger shop!

[@donovanchaas9100]

We have a K&T at work that’s at least twice this size, very cool machine to see in use

[@tobiasbostwick9002]

Great show Adam. Looking forward to seeing the new shaper and welding supplies in action. Thanks.

[@jongerber3476]

I have never seen a new loader ! Nice

[@jongerber3476]

I used to use a cleaner from Cincinati Milicron that melts that old oil and smoke right off the machines . The last time I bought some Valenite had purchased it . The cleaner for iron will turn aluminum black . There is one made just for aluminum . It was along time ago that I used it and am now retired . This stuff worked great . Little scothbrite in the heavely soiled places to allow the product to penitrate and wipe it off . First time I used it was on a bridgeport and I sure was suprised . Keep up the good work .

[@kenwhite5132]

Wow.... that's a brand new leader..... it's beautiful.... really nice machine A-bom bought......

[@matthewmcdaid7962]

Many years (decades) ago I worked for Standard Modern Tool Company of Toronto. They produced the only remaining North American designed and built engine lathe. In the production shop they had a planer that machined the ways on all their lathe beds. They would gang cut sometimes three or four beds at a time. The largest bed they produced was for a 20" x 120" machine. That meant a travel of something like 15 feet or more.

[@richardsmith4143]

680 eutectic, excellent rod to weld nuts on broken bolts and studs, extremely strong and runs beutiful. Good products

[@ZacVaper]

Can't wait to see it cleaned and painted.

[@larryshedd5734]

Great video Adam can't wait to see machine up and running in your shop

[@saschaoswald480]

Adam, I have a Cincinnati No. 4 almost identical to the one you're considering (minus that sweet powered overarm). Those machines are, in my opinion, some of the best mills ever made. Absolute Cadillac of milling machines. They will snap 1" endmills like they're toothpicks! A really cool accessory to have is the spiral milling attachment (Cinci called them "enclosed driving mechanism") which works with a Cincinnati dividing head to allow spiral milling. Obsolete now in the day of CNC, but for us iron-nerds it's just fun. I have one but it needs a rebuild...like most of my old iron! Cheers!

[@kooldoozer]

I got my Rockford openside planer about a year ago. Looks like Adam is catching up !!!!

[@akfarmboy49]

Doozer's Shop what size is yours ?

[@kooldoozer]

@@akfarmboy49 I have the 36" Rockford. I have a few videos of it on my channel.

[@JJRrcfoam]

Love it men need more room in shop 💪👍

[@timothyforney1164]

You need a shop the size of that storage shed, or bigger... That shaper looks really nice, can't wait to see it in action. And the size of the chip that could make.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

Oh my, , , You are getting shaper poor my friend. What a beast ! !

[@dalelathwell7219]

Can't wait to see you use that new shaper looks amazing

[@udowillkomm1173]

So you finally got a shaper, lol. The Cincinnatti mill looks great, and would be a nice replacement for the K&T. Here in Germany, Castolin - Eutectic is a major player. I always liked their electrodes for stick welding and their brazing rods.

[@johndebrular979]

That engine is not a "hit & miss". It is a vapor condensing engine. A very & efficient working engine. This type engine was made in the 40's & 50's/ Still in use today.

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Great find Adam! Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.

[@ptfdchief]

Looks like the next thing you need is to build a bigger shop!

[@marlonllewelyn9565]

Abom you HAVE NO CHOICE now but open your open shop this machine is quite a step up from all the other smaller machine that you have great luck to you man 🙂👍

[@ronniewilson6597]

Adam. Have been watching your videos one after another for the past few weeks. Find them fascinating. Served as an Apprentice Turner/Fitter with the Otis Elevator Company here in the uk so the jobs you do bring back a lot of memories. Cheers 😀👍

[@jonathangriffin1120]

I remember the Eutectic blue brazing rods, they were very good for building up broken teeth on cast iron ring gears as the braze wouldn't flow when it melted.

[@Fourby]

I'm so glad Eutectic go behind you. It was your very first Spray welding video from way back that got me my sub and I've been with you ever since. Nice one Adam. Keep up the great work you do!

[@rodneywroten2994]

Very nice Rockford machine Adam. That will be a hard and steady project for you. But I know you will love doing it.

[@jeremycable51]

Can’t wait to see this in the new shop

[@mikemoore9757]

A company I used to work for had a Rockford in the shop that had been retrofitted with a Bridgeport head up on the arm. In all the years I worked there, I never saw anyone use it. It just caught my eye because I thought it was interesting.

[@Hopeless_and_Forlorn]

When Adam takes this machine home, the U.S. Geologic Survey will send a team to measure and record the resulting changes in magnetic deviation so that airplanes in the area do not get lost.